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Paul Pless
04-26-2015, 09:44 AM
http://photos.mostsailboats.org/1988/b/1988-Bluejacket-catboat_8210_5.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
04-26-2015, 09:50 AM
Yeeerk!

The Bigfella
04-26-2015, 09:53 AM
Yeah, I see what you mean. The bootstripe doesn't match the colour of the stripes in the flag

CWSmith
04-26-2015, 09:56 AM
Yeah, I see what you mean. The bootstripe doesn't match the colour of the stripes in the flag

:) Yes, that's the problem!

Canoeyawl
04-26-2015, 10:03 AM
I think that hatch might be installed incorrectly...

Reynard38
04-26-2015, 12:37 PM
Nothing a Sawzall couldn't fix.

Wouldnt you know it.... A Floridiot is responsible.

Ian McColgin
04-26-2015, 12:42 PM
Needs a dodger, bimini and full eisenglass side enclosure.

Sky Blue
04-26-2015, 12:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=an1Bv3n_Fq4

Nicholas Scheuer
04-26-2015, 01:08 PM
I LIKE plumb stems.

Phillip Allen
04-26-2015, 01:13 PM
where do these strange designs come from?

xflow7
04-26-2015, 01:43 PM
Ideal for a Fool In The Rain, though.

skuthorp
04-26-2015, 04:06 PM
Looks like an adapted work boat even if it's not. The 'adaption' could easily be put down to a partner who likes to be out of the weather when he's fishing. I've seen worse efforts on good Couta Boat hulls.

Sky Blue
04-26-2015, 04:14 PM
I've seen worse efforts

So have I. This is not the prettiest craft, but I like her hull shape and practicality and versatility. You can bring her in close to the beach, you can raft her up for fun and games, get out of the weather, trailerable. I'll be she fishes well. Killer little booze and screw stash boat. I admit to kind of liking her. :)

TR
04-26-2015, 04:39 PM
It's called a Bluejacket 23, production built in Ontario by Collingwood Yachts in the 1980's. She is a modified version of the William Garden designed James W. Hart, the molds were originally built by Philbrook's in Sidney.

Old Dryfoot
04-26-2015, 04:47 PM
They got that, from this?

http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/attachments/sailboats/81890d1371485511-william-garden-family-cat-jameshart1.jpg

purri
04-26-2015, 05:00 PM
I agree, eminently practicable.
So have I. This is not the prettiest craft, but I like her hull shape and practicality and versatility. You can bring her in close to the beach, you can raft her up for fun and games, get out of the weather, trailerable. I'll be she fishes well. Killer little booze and screw stash boat. I admit to kind of liking her. :)

Sky Blue
04-26-2015, 05:04 PM
Since we're talking Garden, I admit to being smitten with Garden's Kelpie, featured in our host's "Save a Classic" section in the recently received May/June issue this year. What a peach of a little cruising cutter.

I am always on the lookout for traditional gaff cutter designs of around 24' or so and was not aware of the Kelpie design. A dream one day is to settle on the design, go over to the UK and settle in there for a year or so while some aggressive, young talented shipwright has a go at building it for me in the traditional manner. I sail her to the West Indies where I quietly enjoy the end days, eating, drinking, beachcombing, reading and writing. Ah, well.

Any chance you have the ability to put up a similar drawing for Kelpie, Old Dryfoot?

Peter Malcolm Jardine
04-26-2015, 05:08 PM
So have I. This is not the prettiest craft, but I like her hull shape and practicality and versatility. You can bring her in close to the beach, you can raft her up for fun and games, get out of the weather, trailerable. I'll be she fishes well. Killer little booze and screw stash boat. I admit to kind of liking her. :)

plus one for me. I sure as hell would pick this boat over sleeping in some plywood open boat under a tarp,

Rob Hazard
04-26-2015, 05:08 PM
Y'know, I was going to mention Garden, but I was afraid I'd get hooted off the board!

Sky Blue
04-26-2015, 05:10 PM
plus one for me. I sure as hell would pick this boat over sleeping in some plywood open boat under a tarp,

lol

Old Dryfoot
04-26-2015, 05:35 PM
Any chance you have the ability to put up a similar drawing for Kelpie, Old Dryfoot?

I'm coming up empty. I know I've seens lines for #5, but I'll be damned if I can find them now. . .

TR
04-26-2015, 05:47 PM
I'm coming up empty. I know I've seens lines for #5, but I'll be damned if I can find them now. . .

WoodenBoat #64 includes lines for a varity of Garden cutters, including Kelpie and Kelpie II, another called Africa, Cutter #4, Crow, and Captain Walrus.

Sky Blue
04-26-2015, 05:53 PM
Thanks for that tip, TR.

skuthorp
04-26-2015, 05:55 PM
Eel, my favourite would-have-if-I-could-have boat.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5192385057_4f0f30636a_m.jpg
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?122706-William-Garden-Eel

Sky Blue
04-26-2015, 06:01 PM
Yes, Eel certainly is among the prettiest little vessels. There is a thread on here somewhere where a gentleman did a Southbound Inside Passage trip in his boat, engineless, I think; I enjoyed his story.

Eel certainly hits all of the notes (tip of the cap to Duncan, whom I believe took this photo):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23700887/395220556.jpg

Robbie 2
04-26-2015, 06:46 PM
Yes this sure is pretty.............but I also like to fish and fishing from this would in my opinion be a nightmare.
The opening post boat may not suit everyone BUT it would probably be a very stable and comfortable cruising/fishing boat if sometimes a bit slow.
But no worries .....when on your boat you should be relaxing and enjoying the time you spend there.


Yes, Eel certainly is among the prettiest little vessels. There is a thread on here somewhere where a gentleman did a Southbound Inside Passage trip in his boat, engineless, I think; I enjoyed his story.

Eel certainly hits all of the notes (tip of the cap to Duncan, whom I believe took this photo):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23700887/395220556.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
04-26-2015, 07:08 PM
So have I. This is not the prettiest craft, but I like her hull shape and practicality and versatility. You can bring her in close to the beach, you can raft her up for fun and games, get out of the weather, trailerable. I'll be she fishes well. Killer little booze and screw stash boat. I admit to kind of liking her. :)
I kind of agree with this, but I'd add the qualifier that I'd think the pilot house would add considerably to a lack of performance under sail because of windage.

Thanks for the cap tip too! Rodger certainly built a lovely boat there, and I believe he's designed and built another beauty. He does have a log in here, but I can't remember what his handle is. I should email or call him. Haven't spoken to him in a long time.

Sky Blue
04-26-2015, 07:44 PM
Certainly sailing her would not be ideal with that deck house giving up windage and limiting one's visibility, but if performance under sail is one's primary consideration, I don't think this is the boat for them.

I imagine she can be piloted from inside the house while under power; she'd be fun in the PNW, I think she would make sense too for cruising the BC Coast, maybe the Inside Passage, you could mooch and troll for salmon, do a bit a recreational crabbing. Hell, she'd be good fun as a crasher party boat just sitting moored on Lake Union in Seattle after a night out drinking and carousing.

Paul Pless
04-26-2015, 08:10 PM
Crasher party boat. I need one of those. . .