Air power?

[Donn]

I started out looking up the prices of paint sprayers, and got embroiled in compressors, CFM's and PSI's and such. I ended up at Coastal Tool (http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/port/cffn250n.htm?L+coastest+qhpg1094ff644864+110726166 4) , looking at this combo offer:

http://www.coastaltool.com/a/port/images/cffn250n.jpg

It looks like about $450+ worth of goodies for $279, but I don't know squat about air power.

Will something like this power a paint spray gun, an air hammer, etc.?

[Donn]

I started out looking up the prices of paint sprayers, and got embroiled in compressors, CFM's and PSI's and such. I ended up at Coastal Tool (http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/port/cffn250n.htm?L+coastest+qhpg1094ff644864+110726166 4) , looking at this combo offer:

http://www.coastaltool.com/a/port/images/cffn250n.jpg

It looks like about $450+ worth of goodies for $279, but I don't know squat about air power.

Will something like this power a paint spray gun, an air hammer, etc.?

[Donn]

I started out looking up the prices of paint sprayers, and got embroiled in compressors, CFM's and PSI's and such. I ended up at Coastal Tool (http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/port/cffn250n.htm?L+coastest+qhpg1094ff644864+110726166 4) , looking at this combo offer:

http://www.coastaltool.com/a/port/images/cffn250n.jpg

It looks like about $450+ worth of goodies for $279, but I don't know squat about air power.

Will something like this power a paint spray gun, an air hammer, etc.?

[paul oman]

I too have had a craving to own an compressor but could never figure out how to justify it or get enough use out of it.

Best I could figure out is you need about 6 cubic feet at about 100 psi if you want to do sandblasting. that's above the ratings of the basic models. Also know professionally that some types spit out oil and that will mess up any painting you do on those surfaces.

Someone, talk me into it, please!

paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers

[paul oman]

I too have had a craving to own an compressor but could never figure out how to justify it or get enough use out of it.

Best I could figure out is you need about 6 cubic feet at about 100 psi if you want to do sandblasting. that's above the ratings of the basic models. Also know professionally that some types spit out oil and that will mess up any painting you do on those surfaces.

Someone, talk me into it, please!

paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers

[paul oman]

I too have had a craving to own an compressor but could never figure out how to justify it or get enough use out of it.

Best I could figure out is you need about 6 cubic feet at about 100 psi if you want to do sandblasting. that's above the ratings of the basic models. Also know professionally that some types spit out oil and that will mess up any painting you do on those surfaces.

Someone, talk me into it, please!

paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers

[Stiletto]

I have an Italian made basic portable compressor to drive a nailgun etc. It can run up to around 130 psi if neccessary.
I have also bought an accesory pack that has tyre inflator , washdown gun, spraygun and duster.

I talked to a carpainter about what was required for an amateur to do spraypainting and he suggested putting a tank in the line before the spraygun but after a length of hose as a cheap means to trap condensation from the humidity in the air. I would think that this would also trap any oilspits. He also said that if one was to get serious about painting (I'm not)that a high quality gun is important.

The spraygun has about the maximum demand that a portable compressor can meet. Airsanders and the like need a lot more output than the smaller compressors deliver.

Donn, that deal looks good value for money. What size are the nailers?

[Stiletto]

I have an Italian made basic portable compressor to drive a nailgun etc. It can run up to around 130 psi if neccessary.
I have also bought an accesory pack that has tyre inflator , washdown gun, spraygun and duster.

I talked to a carpainter about what was required for an amateur to do spraypainting and he suggested putting a tank in the line before the spraygun but after a length of hose as a cheap means to trap condensation from the humidity in the air. I would think that this would also trap any oilspits. He also said that if one was to get serious about painting (I'm not)that a high quality gun is important.

The spraygun has about the maximum demand that a portable compressor can meet. Airsanders and the like need a lot more output than the smaller compressors deliver.

Donn, that deal looks good value for money. What size are the nailers?

[Stiletto]

I have an Italian made basic portable compressor to drive a nailgun etc. It can run up to around 130 psi if neccessary.
I have also bought an accesory pack that has tyre inflator , washdown gun, spraygun and duster.

I talked to a carpainter about what was required for an amateur to do spraypainting and he suggested putting a tank in the line before the spraygun but after a length of hose as a cheap means to trap condensation from the humidity in the air. I would think that this would also trap any oilspits. He also said that if one was to get serious about painting (I'm not)that a high quality gun is important.

The spraygun has about the maximum demand that a portable compressor can meet. Airsanders and the like need a lot more output than the smaller compressors deliver.

Donn, that deal looks good value for money. What size are the nailers?

[Donn]

Finish nailer: 16GA, 3/4" - 2 1/2"
Brad nailer: 18GA, 5/8" - 1 1/4"

Full specs of the compressor, nailers and accessories are at the link above.

PS...it's an oil-free compressor.

[ 01-31-2005, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: Donn ]

[Donn]

Finish nailer: 16GA, 3/4" - 2 1/2"
Brad nailer: 18GA, 5/8" - 1 1/4"

Full specs of the compressor, nailers and accessories are at the link above.

PS...it's an oil-free compressor.

[ 01-31-2005, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: Donn ]

[Donn]

Finish nailer: 16GA, 3/4" - 2 1/2"
Brad nailer: 18GA, 5/8" - 1 1/4"

Full specs of the compressor, nailers and accessories are at the link above.

PS...it's an oil-free compressor.

[ 01-31-2005, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: Donn ]

[Bruce Hooke]

For serious spray painting and similar activities I would highly recommend an inline oil and water filter. This is the most reliable way I know of to remove contaminates that could cause problems with a finish. On systems used heavily for air tools other than spray guns an inline lubricator is not a bad idea -- it keeps the tools better lubed than you are likely to if you have to add oil to the tools manually. If you do use an inline lubricator just make sure that any hoses used for spraying are NEVER used in the lubed part of the air system. These filters and lubricators are not that expensive in the context of a professional grade system. For home systems they are probably less necessary and more expensive than might be desirable.

I have a medium size (by home-shop standards) air compressor, that I mostly use for:

1. Blowing dust off things -- much more effective than vacuuming in many cases. For quite a while I wanted a compressor just so that I could do this but I could not justify buying one until I had a couple of projects that required a lot of stapling and some airbrushing.

2. Pumping up bicycle and car tires.

3. Running a narrow crown staple gun -- very useful for putting together jigs, crates, etc.

4. Running an airbrush used for spray painting very small stuff. A full size compressor is WAY overkill for this but it does the job!

When sizing a compressor there is really no substitute for thinking through what tools you want to run and checking how much air they need. Realize that the specified limits for intermittent tools like nail guns are much more flexible than they are for continuous duty tools like sanders and sprayers.

Edited to add, if you want to spray paint with anything bigger than an airbrush I think you are going to need a good bit bigger compressor.

It should also be noted that this compressor, like most single stage compressors, will almost certainly make quite a racket. This is tolerable in most situations but it sure ain't desirable! I put my compressor on the other side of a brick wall in my basement shop to try to cut down on the noise.

[ 01-31-2005, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

For serious spray painting and similar activities I would highly recommend an inline oil and water filter. This is the most reliable way I know of to remove contaminates that could cause problems with a finish. On systems used heavily for air tools other than spray guns an inline lubricator is not a bad idea -- it keeps the tools better lubed than you are likely to if you have to add oil to the tools manually. If you do use an inline lubricator just make sure that any hoses used for spraying are NEVER used in the lubed part of the air system. These filters and lubricators are not that expensive in the context of a professional grade system. For home systems they are probably less necessary and more expensive than might be desirable.

I have a medium size (by home-shop standards) air compressor, that I mostly use for:

1. Blowing dust off things -- much more effective than vacuuming in many cases. For quite a while I wanted a compressor just so that I could do this but I could not justify buying one until I had a couple of projects that required a lot of stapling and some airbrushing.

2. Pumping up bicycle and car tires.

3. Running a narrow crown staple gun -- very useful for putting together jigs, crates, etc.

4. Running an airbrush used for spray painting very small stuff. A full size compressor is WAY overkill for this but it does the job!

When sizing a compressor there is really no substitute for thinking through what tools you want to run and checking how much air they need. Realize that the specified limits for intermittent tools like nail guns are much more flexible than they are for continuous duty tools like sanders and sprayers.

Edited to add, if you want to spray paint with anything bigger than an airbrush I think you are going to need a good bit bigger compressor.

It should also be noted that this compressor, like most single stage compressors, will almost certainly make quite a racket. This is tolerable in most situations but it sure ain't desirable! I put my compressor on the other side of a brick wall in my basement shop to try to cut down on the noise.

[ 01-31-2005, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

For serious spray painting and similar activities I would highly recommend an inline oil and water filter. This is the most reliable way I know of to remove contaminates that could cause problems with a finish. On systems used heavily for air tools other than spray guns an inline lubricator is not a bad idea -- it keeps the tools better lubed than you are likely to if you have to add oil to the tools manually. If you do use an inline lubricator just make sure that any hoses used for spraying are NEVER used in the lubed part of the air system. These filters and lubricators are not that expensive in the context of a professional grade system. For home systems they are probably less necessary and more expensive than might be desirable.

I have a medium size (by home-shop standards) air compressor, that I mostly use for:

1. Blowing dust off things -- much more effective than vacuuming in many cases. For quite a while I wanted a compressor just so that I could do this but I could not justify buying one until I had a couple of projects that required a lot of stapling and some airbrushing.

2. Pumping up bicycle and car tires.

3. Running a narrow crown staple gun -- very useful for putting together jigs, crates, etc.

4. Running an airbrush used for spray painting very small stuff. A full size compressor is WAY overkill for this but it does the job!

When sizing a compressor there is really no substitute for thinking through what tools you want to run and checking how much air they need. Realize that the specified limits for intermittent tools like nail guns are much more flexible than they are for continuous duty tools like sanders and sprayers.

Edited to add, if you want to spray paint with anything bigger than an airbrush I think you are going to need a good bit bigger compressor.

It should also be noted that this compressor, like most single stage compressors, will almost certainly make quite a racket. This is tolerable in most situations but it sure ain't desirable! I put my compressor on the other side of a brick wall in my basement shop to try to cut down on the noise.

[ 01-31-2005, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

Remember that such package deals usually only make sense if you really want all the tools in the package...

BTW - My narrow crown stapler is a Porter-Cable and I have been quite happy with it.

[Bruce Hooke]

Remember that such package deals usually only make sense if you really want all the tools in the package...

BTW - My narrow crown stapler is a Porter-Cable and I have been quite happy with it.

[Bruce Hooke]

Remember that such package deals usually only make sense if you really want all the tools in the package...

BTW - My narrow crown stapler is a Porter-Cable and I have been quite happy with it.

[Concordia..41]

http://content.sears.com/data/product_images/009/18419/00918419000-dlv.jpg

[insert - Tim-the-Tool-Man-Taylor-satisfied grunts here]

Seriously Donn, other than the nail gun, I don't think the smaller units are very useful. We had a regulator and a dryer/filter on a similar one at the boatyard and varnishing was still an exercise in frustration. I imagine painting would be the same for anyone particular about their finish. It is definitely an acquired skill.

(If you're looking to justify one, I guess it could be handy for spraying around all those little frames on the Garvey... ;) )

As for blowing things off with one, don't get me started!!!!! I see it every time I'm in a paint shed, and it makes me nuts!!! Has anyone heard of GRAVITY!!!!! When you want to get rid of something, vacuum it up - don't blow it around so it lands in a different place!!! :mad:

That'll be .02 please!

- M

[ 01-31-2005, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Concordia..41]

http://content.sears.com/data/product_images/009/18419/00918419000-dlv.jpg

[insert - Tim-the-Tool-Man-Taylor-satisfied grunts here]

Seriously Donn, other than the nail gun, I don't think the smaller units are very useful. We had a regulator and a dryer/filter on a similar one at the boatyard and varnishing was still an exercise in frustration. I imagine painting would be the same for anyone particular about their finish. It is definitely an acquired skill.

(If you're looking to justify one, I guess it could be handy for spraying around all those little frames on the Garvey... ;) )

As for blowing things off with one, don't get me started!!!!! I see it every time I'm in a paint shed, and it makes me nuts!!! Has anyone heard of GRAVITY!!!!! When you want to get rid of something, vacuum it up - don't blow it around so it lands in a different place!!! :mad:

That'll be .02 please!

- M

[ 01-31-2005, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Concordia..41]

http://content.sears.com/data/product_images/009/18419/00918419000-dlv.jpg

[insert - Tim-the-Tool-Man-Taylor-satisfied grunts here]

Seriously Donn, other than the nail gun, I don't think the smaller units are very useful. We had a regulator and a dryer/filter on a similar one at the boatyard and varnishing was still an exercise in frustration. I imagine painting would be the same for anyone particular about their finish. It is definitely an acquired skill.

(If you're looking to justify one, I guess it could be handy for spraying around all those little frames on the Garvey... ;) )

As for blowing things off with one, don't get me started!!!!! I see it every time I'm in a paint shed, and it makes me nuts!!! Has anyone heard of GRAVITY!!!!! When you want to get rid of something, vacuum it up - don't blow it around so it lands in a different place!!! :mad:

That'll be .02 please!

- M

[ 01-31-2005, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Dan McCosh]

Tools that require little air include the ones that do a single blow with a piston, such as a nailer or air wrench. An air hammer takes a little more. Driving an air motor takes a lot of air--sanders, grinders, drills, etc. Paint spraying is all over the map, depending on the sprayer used. You might also note that most of the power is wasted in compressing the air, hence the electric consumption is very high. To sustain air volume, you need a big displacement compressor, and then the cost goes up and up....

[Dan McCosh]

Tools that require little air include the ones that do a single blow with a piston, such as a nailer or air wrench. An air hammer takes a little more. Driving an air motor takes a lot of air--sanders, grinders, drills, etc. Paint spraying is all over the map, depending on the sprayer used. You might also note that most of the power is wasted in compressing the air, hence the electric consumption is very high. To sustain air volume, you need a big displacement compressor, and then the cost goes up and up....

[Dan McCosh]

Tools that require little air include the ones that do a single blow with a piston, such as a nailer or air wrench. An air hammer takes a little more. Driving an air motor takes a lot of air--sanders, grinders, drills, etc. Paint spraying is all over the map, depending on the sprayer used. You might also note that most of the power is wasted in compressing the air, hence the electric consumption is very high. To sustain air volume, you need a big displacement compressor, and then the cost goes up and up....

[Jim H]

Donn, that's the one I have. It's not rated for painting but damn near every carpenter that I've run into in the last couple of years has one. It's great for it's intended use but my framing gun cost more than the compressor/finish nailer combo!

[Jim H]

Donn, that's the one I have. It's not rated for painting but damn near every carpenter that I've run into in the last couple of years has one. It's great for it's intended use but my framing gun cost more than the compressor/finish nailer combo!

[Jim H]

Donn, that's the one I have. It's not rated for painting but damn near every carpenter that I've run into in the last couple of years has one. It's great for it's intended use but my framing gun cost more than the compressor/finish nailer combo!

[Donn]

I don't want more than one compressor, so I guess I need a more powerful (expensive) compressor/tank combo to run nailers or a good HVLP sprayer, eh?

[Donn]

I don't want more than one compressor, so I guess I need a more powerful (expensive) compressor/tank combo to run nailers or a good HVLP sprayer, eh?

[Donn]

I don't want more than one compressor, so I guess I need a more powerful (expensive) compressor/tank combo to run nailers or a good HVLP sprayer, eh?

[Figment]

Pardon my cheekyness, but....

Donn, you're a surfcaster, no?

What do you think of those surfcasting "starter kits" they sell at sporting goods megastores??

;)

[Figment]

Pardon my cheekyness, but....

Donn, you're a surfcaster, no?

What do you think of those surfcasting "starter kits" they sell at sporting goods megastores??

;)

[Figment]

Pardon my cheekyness, but....

Donn, you're a surfcaster, no?

What do you think of those surfcasting "starter kits" they sell at sporting goods megastores??

;)

[Donn]

Fig...I've never looked at fishing tackle in a sports megastore. I have $500+ surfcasting reels on $3-500 custom made rods. But, those are serious tools. :D

[Donn]

Fig...I've never looked at fishing tackle in a sports megastore. I have $500+ surfcasting reels on $3-500 custom made rods. But, those are serious tools. :D

[Donn]

Fig...I've never looked at fishing tackle in a sports megastore. I have $500+ surfcasting reels on $3-500 custom made rods. But, those are serious tools. :D

[Dan McCosh]

I've used some air tools for boat work. One is a sharpened auto-body chisel for rough work--sort of an air-powered hammer and chisel. Another is a heavy screwdrive in an air socket wrench, a kind of super-duty screwdriver. I think most HVLP sprayer are kind of high-powered vacuum cleaners, rather than air compressor per se. Anotther trick I find useful is cleanup with an air gun. The trick here is to hold a running vacuum opposite the nozzle to pick up the loosened debris. It's sort of a dry pressure washer. Still, it sits around more than most tools.

[Dan McCosh]

I've used some air tools for boat work. One is a sharpened auto-body chisel for rough work--sort of an air-powered hammer and chisel. Another is a heavy screwdrive in an air socket wrench, a kind of super-duty screwdriver. I think most HVLP sprayer are kind of high-powered vacuum cleaners, rather than air compressor per se. Anotther trick I find useful is cleanup with an air gun. The trick here is to hold a running vacuum opposite the nozzle to pick up the loosened debris. It's sort of a dry pressure washer. Still, it sits around more than most tools.

[Dan McCosh]

I've used some air tools for boat work. One is a sharpened auto-body chisel for rough work--sort of an air-powered hammer and chisel. Another is a heavy screwdrive in an air socket wrench, a kind of super-duty screwdriver. I think most HVLP sprayer are kind of high-powered vacuum cleaners, rather than air compressor per se. Anotther trick I find useful is cleanup with an air gun. The trick here is to hold a running vacuum opposite the nozzle to pick up the loosened debris. It's sort of a dry pressure washer. Still, it sits around more than most tools.

[WayGray]

I just bought one of those combo kits today. Stanley-Bostitch for $267. These aren't professional grade tools, but I'm not a professional. They will be fine for the level of usage I'll give them. I am putting up some cabinets and installing baseboard.

We painted our entire new home ourselves. Used a professional capacity airless sprayer; which is the right tool for that job- something like 80 gallons of paint. Different setups for different tasks. An air compressor of some capacity is helpful for that Fall task of blowing out the inlawn sprinkler lines.

I'll be painting my new boat this Spring, but will probably do it by hand. Don't have the weather to do it outdoors and don't like the overspray in my shop.

[WayGray]

I just bought one of those combo kits today. Stanley-Bostitch for $267. These aren't professional grade tools, but I'm not a professional. They will be fine for the level of usage I'll give them. I am putting up some cabinets and installing baseboard.

We painted our entire new home ourselves. Used a professional capacity airless sprayer; which is the right tool for that job- something like 80 gallons of paint. Different setups for different tasks. An air compressor of some capacity is helpful for that Fall task of blowing out the inlawn sprinkler lines.

I'll be painting my new boat this Spring, but will probably do it by hand. Don't have the weather to do it outdoors and don't like the overspray in my shop.

[WayGray]

I just bought one of those combo kits today. Stanley-Bostitch for $267. These aren't professional grade tools, but I'm not a professional. They will be fine for the level of usage I'll give them. I am putting up some cabinets and installing baseboard.

We painted our entire new home ourselves. Used a professional capacity airless sprayer; which is the right tool for that job- something like 80 gallons of paint. Different setups for different tasks. An air compressor of some capacity is helpful for that Fall task of blowing out the inlawn sprinkler lines.

I'll be painting my new boat this Spring, but will probably do it by hand. Don't have the weather to do it outdoors and don't like the overspray in my shop.

[Stiletto]

Overspray can go a long way. I have a mate who is an architect who stipulates that no spraying is to be done on his high class residential jobs after a beautiful piece of cabinetry at the far end of a house ended up with tiny paint dots on it.

Bruce Hooke is right, my comments were aimed at the strictly amateur and inexpensive end of spraypainting.

[Stiletto]

Overspray can go a long way. I have a mate who is an architect who stipulates that no spraying is to be done on his high class residential jobs after a beautiful piece of cabinetry at the far end of a house ended up with tiny paint dots on it.

Bruce Hooke is right, my comments were aimed at the strictly amateur and inexpensive end of spraypainting.

[Stiletto]

Overspray can go a long way. I have a mate who is an architect who stipulates that no spraying is to be done on his high class residential jobs after a beautiful piece of cabinetry at the far end of a house ended up with tiny paint dots on it.

Bruce Hooke is right, my comments were aimed at the strictly amateur and inexpensive end of spraypainting.

[Billy Bones]

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/1592135_lg.gif

I lucked into one of these a while ago and never looked back. YOU HAVEN'T LIVED until you've used a pneumatic random orbit sander. Yet they are air intensive tools, as are hammers/scalers/sandblasters.

OTOH, I lived just fine for years on a DeVilbiss hotdog compressor from Cost-U-Less which would drive my nail guns just fine, even the framing nailer.

[Billy Bones]

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/1592135_lg.gif

I lucked into one of these a while ago and never looked back. YOU HAVEN'T LIVED until you've used a pneumatic random orbit sander. Yet they are air intensive tools, as are hammers/scalers/sandblasters.

OTOH, I lived just fine for years on a DeVilbiss hotdog compressor from Cost-U-Less which would drive my nail guns just fine, even the framing nailer.

[Billy Bones]

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/1592135_lg.gif

I lucked into one of these a while ago and never looked back. YOU HAVEN'T LIVED until you've used a pneumatic random orbit sander. Yet they are air intensive tools, as are hammers/scalers/sandblasters.

OTOH, I lived just fine for years on a DeVilbiss hotdog compressor from Cost-U-Less which would drive my nail guns just fine, even the framing nailer.

[Ron Williamson]

That is a fine little compressor for driving those nailers.Made in the USA,BTW,though the nailers are Taiwanese(still,they're cheap and pretty durable).It will drive a regular spray gun intermittently(sp?),but a regular HVLP or an RO sander will toast it.For those you need industrial strength.
Fuji made an HVLP with a venturi style converter kit that would prolly work.It used ambient air pulled into sprayer to make up the required volume.I don't know if they're still around.
R

[Ron Williamson]

That is a fine little compressor for driving those nailers.Made in the USA,BTW,though the nailers are Taiwanese(still,they're cheap and pretty durable).It will drive a regular spray gun intermittently(sp?),but a regular HVLP or an RO sander will toast it.For those you need industrial strength.
Fuji made an HVLP with a venturi style converter kit that would prolly work.It used ambient air pulled into sprayer to make up the required volume.I don't know if they're still around.
R

[Ron Williamson]

That is a fine little compressor for driving those nailers.Made in the USA,BTW,though the nailers are Taiwanese(still,they're cheap and pretty durable).It will drive a regular spray gun intermittently(sp?),but a regular HVLP or an RO sander will toast it.For those you need industrial strength.
Fuji made an HVLP with a venturi style converter kit that would prolly work.It used ambient air pulled into sprayer to make up the required volume.I don't know if they're still around.
R

[Donn]

Lee Valley offers this:

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/woodworking/finishing/03k0301g2.jpg

They say it'll work with a 3/4HP, 10-90PSI, 2-3CFM compressor, which the PC is. I like the fact that it uses regular mason jars as the reservoir, and the paint doesn't go thru the gun.

[Donn]

Lee Valley offers this:

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/woodworking/finishing/03k0301g2.jpg

They say it'll work with a 3/4HP, 10-90PSI, 2-3CFM compressor, which the PC is. I like the fact that it uses regular mason jars as the reservoir, and the paint doesn't go thru the gun.

[Donn]

Lee Valley offers this:

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/woodworking/finishing/03k0301g2.jpg

They say it'll work with a 3/4HP, 10-90PSI, 2-3CFM compressor, which the PC is. I like the fact that it uses regular mason jars as the reservoir, and the paint doesn't go thru the gun.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Concordia..41:
As for blowing things off with one, don't get me started!!!!! I see it every time I'm in a paint shed, and it makes me nuts!!! Has anyone heard of GRAVITY!!!!! When you want to get rid of something, vacuum it up - don't blow it around so it lands in a different place!!! :mad: Without a doubt, blowing off stuff just before you lay down a coat of finish is often not a good idea. On the other hand, try getting a vacuum to pick up dust that is deeply embedded in cracks or other inaccessible spots, let alone buried in the guts of a stationay power tool. Both blowing and sucking have their place!

[ 02-01-2005, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Concordia..41:
As for blowing things off with one, don't get me started!!!!! I see it every time I'm in a paint shed, and it makes me nuts!!! Has anyone heard of GRAVITY!!!!! When you want to get rid of something, vacuum it up - don't blow it around so it lands in a different place!!! :mad: Without a doubt, blowing off stuff just before you lay down a coat of finish is often not a good idea. On the other hand, try getting a vacuum to pick up dust that is deeply embedded in cracks or other inaccessible spots, let alone buried in the guts of a stationay power tool. Both blowing and sucking have their place!

[ 02-01-2005, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Concordia..41:
As for blowing things off with one, don't get me started!!!!! I see it every time I'm in a paint shed, and it makes me nuts!!! Has anyone heard of GRAVITY!!!!! When you want to get rid of something, vacuum it up - don't blow it around so it lands in a different place!!! :mad: Without a doubt, blowing off stuff just before you lay down a coat of finish is often not a good idea. On the other hand, try getting a vacuum to pick up dust that is deeply embedded in cracks or other inaccessible spots, let alone buried in the guts of a stationay power tool. Both blowing and sucking have their place!

[ 02-01-2005, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Donn:
I don't want more than one compressor, so I guess I need a more powerful (expensive) compressor/tank combo to run nailers or a good HVLP sprayer, eh?The compressor in that package should work just fine for nail guns -- they are used all the time on job sites for just that. HVLP spraying is another story...

However, before you go down the spray gun route just remember that unless you have a dedicated spray booth you will have to spend a LOT of time masking before you can start spraying. This may be worth it if spraying is the only way you can get the quality you want, otherwise you may find it more efficient to just use a brush. Also, by all reports, spraying does take a good bit of practice to get good at it. The hardest things to spray are likely to be highly complex surfaces like the inside of a boat -- trying to get paint everywhere it's needed without getting too much in some places is not easy.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Donn:
I don't want more than one compressor, so I guess I need a more powerful (expensive) compressor/tank combo to run nailers or a good HVLP sprayer, eh?The compressor in that package should work just fine for nail guns -- they are used all the time on job sites for just that. HVLP spraying is another story...

However, before you go down the spray gun route just remember that unless you have a dedicated spray booth you will have to spend a LOT of time masking before you can start spraying. This may be worth it if spraying is the only way you can get the quality you want, otherwise you may find it more efficient to just use a brush. Also, by all reports, spraying does take a good bit of practice to get good at it. The hardest things to spray are likely to be highly complex surfaces like the inside of a boat -- trying to get paint everywhere it's needed without getting too much in some places is not easy.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Donn:
I don't want more than one compressor, so I guess I need a more powerful (expensive) compressor/tank combo to run nailers or a good HVLP sprayer, eh?The compressor in that package should work just fine for nail guns -- they are used all the time on job sites for just that. HVLP spraying is another story...

However, before you go down the spray gun route just remember that unless you have a dedicated spray booth you will have to spend a LOT of time masking before you can start spraying. This may be worth it if spraying is the only way you can get the quality you want, otherwise you may find it more efficient to just use a brush. Also, by all reports, spraying does take a good bit of practice to get good at it. The hardest things to spray are likely to be highly complex surfaces like the inside of a boat -- trying to get paint everywhere it's needed without getting too much in some places is not easy.

[hikingchrs]

Originally posted by Donn:
Lee Valley offers this:

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/woodworking/finishing/03k0301g2.jpg

They say it'll work with a 3/4HP, 10-90PSI, 2-3CFM compressor, which the PC is. I like the fact that it uses regular mason jars as the reservoir, and the paint doesn't go thru the gun.Has anyone tried this gun looks intersting
Chris

[hikingchrs]

Originally posted by Donn:
Lee Valley offers this:

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/woodworking/finishing/03k0301g2.jpg

They say it'll work with a 3/4HP, 10-90PSI, 2-3CFM compressor, which the PC is. I like the fact that it uses regular mason jars as the reservoir, and the paint doesn't go thru the gun.Has anyone tried this gun looks intersting
Chris

[hikingchrs]

Originally posted by Donn:
Lee Valley offers this:

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/woodworking/finishing/03k0301g2.jpg

They say it'll work with a 3/4HP, 10-90PSI, 2-3CFM compressor, which the PC is. I like the fact that it uses regular mason jars as the reservoir, and the paint doesn't go thru the gun.Has anyone tried this gun looks intersting
Chris

[alteran]

I have one that is similar. It is hard to get the viscosity just right to make it spray decent and the spray rate is pretty slow. Mine came as part of a set of other stuff and I thought it might be handy for some touchups but a brush is faster and easier.

I've not found any good use for mine but I suppose there is some small hobby stuff it might be good for.

[alteran]

I have one that is similar. It is hard to get the viscosity just right to make it spray decent and the spray rate is pretty slow. Mine came as part of a set of other stuff and I thought it might be handy for some touchups but a brush is faster and easier.

I've not found any good use for mine but I suppose there is some small hobby stuff it might be good for.

[alteran]

I have one that is similar. It is hard to get the viscosity just right to make it spray decent and the spray rate is pretty slow. Mine came as part of a set of other stuff and I thought it might be handy for some touchups but a brush is faster and easier.

I've not found any good use for mine but I suppose there is some small hobby stuff it might be good for.

[ssor]

Portability is the reason for the small single stage compressors. For a shop compressor a larger system is a much better choice. I see a lot of engine driven wheel mounted compressors on jobs where more then one tool is in use at the same time.

[ssor]

Portability is the reason for the small single stage compressors. For a shop compressor a larger system is a much better choice. I see a lot of engine driven wheel mounted compressors on jobs where more then one tool is in use at the same time.

[ssor]

Portability is the reason for the small single stage compressors. For a shop compressor a larger system is a much better choice. I see a lot of engine driven wheel mounted compressors on jobs where more then one tool is in use at the same time.