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Rum_Pirate
03-21-2015, 02:29 PM
Some of you; well those of you that do not have me on your 'ignore list (for real); may recall the issue that I have with my FORD Escape's ignition. Namely that the key goes in but sometimes won't turn.

Several offered solutions e.g. spray the inside of the slot with WD40 or CRC 6-66 and giving it a tap or ten.
Well I have sprayed it. Not much good. Thankfully the rubber mat on the floor captured the spillage - almost like a miniature Exxon Valdez.
I found that gently tapping the end of the key after inserting it did free it up. I tried not to use it while I searched for a permanent solution.

I was getting concerned about the expense of replacing an ignition with an 'electronic chipped' key and all that that entails. IE
http://taro.orakul.ua/img/dream/money.jpg.

Well today I dropped it off at a locksmith. I was recommended to another chap, by a manager in a bank. This chap then recommended this locksmith. I knew of him but never connected him with electronic ignitions.

Dropped it off and now it works.

The problem was that there were two springs that rested on top of tumblers, but the had some how 'twisted' partly down the side of the timbers, thus resulting in the jamming of the key.
The locksmith said he had seen weakened springs etc in older vehicles but never seen this before.

He replaced the springs - I hope he did rather then bend them back in 'shape' - and charged me US$130.00.

Money well spent - if the is repair is permanent. :ycool:

Moral of this post : If you have sticky ignition issues with your vehicle have a locksmith look at the tumblers and the springs. Y>

S.V. Airlie
03-21-2015, 02:30 PM
It's a FOOORD!

Rum_Pirate
03-21-2015, 02:42 PM
It's a FOOORD!

Yes it is a Ford, and in:

Fix Or Repair DailyI wish I had never bought it. :ycool:

Tie rods - both sides, TWICE;
Tie rod ends - both sides, TWICE
Gearbox rebuild
Alternator replacement
Driver's safety belt replacement
Front wheel bearing replacement - both sides
Front left hub replacement
Ignition key issue
are the main ones that stick in my mind due to the cost implication. :pmad:


I think - now that it is up and running again - I should sell the heap and buy a Suzuki.

I certainly will not be buying another Ford. Y:o

S.V. Airlie
03-21-2015, 02:49 PM
My last Ford bought new, was a Bronco! Six months later, the front axle broke. Do you think one could be located? Not on your life, productions of front axles were not even in production. My Bronco was TOO NEW to have this kind of problem!

Rum_Pirate
03-21-2015, 03:08 PM
My last Ford bought new, was a Bronco! Six months later, the front axle broke. Do you think one could be located? Not on your life, productions of front axles were not even in production. My Bronco was TOO NEW to have this kind of problem!

Was it out of the guarantee period?



I sympathise with you. I truly do.

Do we get a T shirt?



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Reynard38
03-21-2015, 03:13 PM
'Murican cars are crap.

Rum_Pirate
03-21-2015, 03:29 PM
'Murican cars are crap.
I would not say that all of them are.

S.V. Airlie
03-21-2015, 03:31 PM
Rum, it didn't matter, one could be found in seven states! I ASSUME if one existed, it would have been.

Captain Intrepid
03-21-2015, 03:33 PM
https://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/funny-photos-ford-at-least-circled-the-problem.jpg

WszystekPoTrochu
03-21-2015, 03:34 PM
Don't ever drive an F- car: Fiats, Fords or french ;)

S.V. Airlie
03-21-2015, 03:36 PM
Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, also known as FCA (BIT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borsa_Italiana): FCA (http://www.borsaitaliana.it/borsa/azioni/scheda.html?isin=NL0010877643&lang=en), NYSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Stock_Exchange): FCAU (https://www.nyse.com/quote/XNYS:FCAU)), is a Anglo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England)–Dutch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles#cite_note-4) multinational company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_company) and the world’s seventh-largest auto maker.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles#cite_note-5) The group was established in 2014 by merging Fiat S.p.A. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_S.p.A.) into a new Netherlands-based holding company with its global headquarters in London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London), UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and listings on the Borsa Italiana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borsa_Italiana) and New York Stock Exchange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Stock_Exchange).[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles#cite_note-reuters20141007-6)
It operates through two main subsidiaries: FCA Italy (previously Fiat Group Automobiles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Group_Automobiles)) and FCA US (previously Chrysler LLC) with many well known automotive marques including Alfa Romeo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo), Chrysler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_(division)), Dodge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge), Fiat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Automobiles), Fiat Professional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Professional), Jeep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep), Lancia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia), Ram Trucks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Trucks), Abarth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abarth), Mopar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mopar) and SRT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_%26_Racing_Technology). FCA also owns Ferrari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari), Maserati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maserati), Comau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comau), Magneti Marelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneti_Marelli), Teksid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teksid).[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles#cite_note-7) Today FCA operates in four regions (NAFTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement), LATAM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America), APAC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia-Pacific), EMEA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe,_the_Middle_East_and_Africa)).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles#cite_note-8)
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BrianW
03-21-2015, 04:11 PM
'Murican cars are crap.

Oh, I don't know about that. My wife loves her Tacoma.

oznabrag
03-21-2015, 04:16 PM
Don't ever drive an F- car: Fiats, Fords or french ;)

Perfect!

Rum_Pirate
03-21-2015, 04:22 PM
http://forum.woodenboat.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by WszystekPoTrochu http://forum.woodenboat.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png
(http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?p=4487749#post4487749)Don't ever drive an F- car: Fiats, Fords or french ;)Perfect!

How does the old accountant's adage go: If it flies, floats or _ _ _ _ s it is better to rent it? |;)

Dan McCosh
03-21-2015, 04:46 PM
The Ford Escape was a rebadged Mazda until recently. Is that the one we are talking about?

Rum_Pirate
03-21-2015, 05:06 PM
The Ford Escape was a rebadged Mazda until recently. Is that the one we are talking about?

Virtually identical to the Madza Tribute.

Norman Bernstein
03-21-2015, 05:09 PM
Fix Or Repair DailyI wish I had never bought it. :ycool:

I thought it stood for 'Found On Road, Dead'.

Actually, my wife drives a Ford Escape... the second one she's driven (she leases them), and it's a nice car.

Then again, MOST cars tend to work flawlessly for the first 24,000 miles :)

Donn
03-21-2015, 05:14 PM
Fix Or Repair Daily




No. It's Favorite of real drivers.

leikec
03-21-2015, 06:09 PM
I had several Ford vehicles that were extremely reliable. That string was broken when the transmission on my Escape packed it in at 120k miles.

The Cx7 we bought to replace the Escape has been extremely reliable, but overall I liked the Escape much more than the Cx7.

Jeff C

Paul Pless
03-21-2015, 06:15 PM
first
on
race
day

Paul Pless
03-21-2015, 06:17 PM
provided it cranks, of course. . .

Canoeyawl
03-21-2015, 09:08 PM
First On Race Day

The GT 40 has won more prestigious race events than any other model road-race car in history.

Steve McMahon
03-21-2015, 09:20 PM
Park it in a remote spot, leave it running, crack the nut on a fuel line near the exhaust manifold, lock the doors and go for a hike. Problem solved.

ahp
03-22-2015, 11:03 AM
Buy Toyota. We had to replace the original front brake pads on our 2005 Camry, at 140,000 miles.

Paul Pless
03-22-2015, 11:16 AM
First On Race Day

The GT 40 has won more prestigious race events than any other model road-race car in history.maybe at one time, that record is now held by the porsche 962

Dan McCosh
03-22-2015, 12:24 PM
Recently had to put $50 in repairs in the Explorer Sport, due to a loosened transmission shift lever bracket, which worked itself loose at 230,000 miles. Talk about poor quality! It's cost $1,500 in repairs in the last 100,000 miles, including a brake job.

Canoeyawl
03-22-2015, 04:36 PM
Recently had to put $50 in repairs in the Explorer Sport, due to a loosened transmission shift lever bracket, which worked itself loose at 230,000 miles. Talk about poor quality! It's cost $1,500 in repairs in the last 100,000 miles, including a brake job.

No tires?
Sheesh...

Michael D. Storey
03-22-2015, 04:40 PM
Don't ever drive an F- car: Fiats, Fords or french ;)

Citroen: 2cv, ID 19
Renault: 16, 12, & 5
Ford F150 400k miles Working on my second.
The only fiat I even drove was a doorless model with wicker seats. Got arrested in Nice for doing so without pants. That was a while ago.

Dan McCosh
03-23-2015, 08:03 AM
No tires?
Sheesh...The tires are getting low--about a half inch of tread left. I might have added I bought it used with 130,000 miles for $2,000.

Rum_Pirate
03-23-2015, 10:23 AM
The tires are getting low--about a half inch of tread left. I might have added I bought it used with 130,000 miles for $2,000.

Those are GREAT tires.

What Brand?

Dan McCosh
03-23-2015, 11:54 AM
Those are GREAT tires.

What Brand?Michelin.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
03-23-2015, 03:10 PM
I find the people who have the most trouble with their cars, do the least amount of preventative maintenance, but then I don't know anything about cars.

Rum_Pirate
03-23-2015, 03:23 PM
I find the people who have the most trouble with their cars, do the least amount of preventative maintenance, but then I don't know anything about cars.

What in the way of preventative maintenance should I have done regarding:

Tie rods - both sides, TWICE;
Tie rod ends - both sides, TWICE
Gearbox rebuild
Alternator replacement
Driver's safety belt replacement
Front wheel bearing replacement - both sides
Front left hub replacement
Ignition coils (replaced 2)
Ignition key issue

Exhaust now appears to have a hole in it, between the engine and the bulkhead. That should be an easy repair. |;)

PS I suspect that my preventative maintenance should have been not to buy it in the first place.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
03-24-2015, 08:51 AM
Sorry, I can't comment because I don't know how you drive, where you live, what year the vehicle is, or how many km's are on it.

Paul Pless
03-24-2015, 08:54 AM
What in the way of preventative maintenance should I have done regarding:

Tie rods - both sides, TWICE;
Tie rod ends - both sides, TWICE
Gearbox rebuild
Alternator replacement
Driver's safety belt replacement
Front wheel bearing replacement - both sides
Front left hub replacement
Ignition coils (replaced 2)
Ignition key issue

Exhaust now appears to have a hole in it, between the engine and the bulkhead. That should be an easy repair. |;)

PS I suspect that my preventative maintenance should have been not to buy it in the first place.couldn't you get by with a golf cart, moped, boat, and bicycle?