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BradW
10-17-2003, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know of boatbuilders or specialist timber cutters in central Virginia who may be interested in a couple of large, quality white oak trees? We had a couple of big oaks come up by the roots in Hurricane Isabel. My brother has other worries w/ the house so we haven't done anything with the ones in the woods.

At least one is unbroken (came up by the roots and fell fairly gently), with an apparently solid trunk about 24'(I stepped it off) from the butt to the first limb, nearly straight, circular, and at least 24" (est.)outside trunk diameter at the limb. It's too big for our chain saw, so I can't say for certain what the inside is like, but I see no holes or rot on the outside. My guess is it's 100+ years old. I just thought that it'd be a shame if it is really nice inside for that much white oak to wind up in a stove. A new keel for a boat would be much nicer! There is truck access to the tree.

What is the typical process for onesy-twosy harvest? The family has a large white pine timber acreage which we had harvested some years ago the usual way, with a forestry consultant, contract sawmill, etc., but I don't know about this kind of situation.

BradW
10-17-2003, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know of boatbuilders or specialist timber cutters in central Virginia who may be interested in a couple of large, quality white oak trees? We had a couple of big oaks come up by the roots in Hurricane Isabel. My brother has other worries w/ the house so we haven't done anything with the ones in the woods.

At least one is unbroken (came up by the roots and fell fairly gently), with an apparently solid trunk about 24'(I stepped it off) from the butt to the first limb, nearly straight, circular, and at least 24" (est.)outside trunk diameter at the limb. It's too big for our chain saw, so I can't say for certain what the inside is like, but I see no holes or rot on the outside. My guess is it's 100+ years old. I just thought that it'd be a shame if it is really nice inside for that much white oak to wind up in a stove. A new keel for a boat would be much nicer! There is truck access to the tree.

What is the typical process for onesy-twosy harvest? The family has a large white pine timber acreage which we had harvested some years ago the usual way, with a forestry consultant, contract sawmill, etc., but I don't know about this kind of situation.

BradW
10-17-2003, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know of boatbuilders or specialist timber cutters in central Virginia who may be interested in a couple of large, quality white oak trees? We had a couple of big oaks come up by the roots in Hurricane Isabel. My brother has other worries w/ the house so we haven't done anything with the ones in the woods.

At least one is unbroken (came up by the roots and fell fairly gently), with an apparently solid trunk about 24'(I stepped it off) from the butt to the first limb, nearly straight, circular, and at least 24" (est.)outside trunk diameter at the limb. It's too big for our chain saw, so I can't say for certain what the inside is like, but I see no holes or rot on the outside. My guess is it's 100+ years old. I just thought that it'd be a shame if it is really nice inside for that much white oak to wind up in a stove. A new keel for a boat would be much nicer! There is truck access to the tree.

What is the typical process for onesy-twosy harvest? The family has a large white pine timber acreage which we had harvested some years ago the usual way, with a forestry consultant, contract sawmill, etc., but I don't know about this kind of situation.

Bob Smalser
10-17-2003, 12:50 PM
I'd come mill it for you, but it's too long a hike.

http://www.sawmill-exchange.com/index.htm

http://www.mobilemfg.com/

http://www.baileys-online.com/

http://www.woodmizer.com/welcome.html

Check the phonebook and the mill manufacturers/sellers for portable sawmillers locally. Local tree service guys will know of them, too. Few advertise.

That's a pretty small job...less than two hours work....not worth the trip for many....but you can probably find somebody.

Depends on what's cut...1X6's take 4 times the time to cut as 6X6's....but the usual deal is a percentage of the boards or cost per thousand BF.

Typical deals are $400 per thousand or half the boards on a small job....you've only got 600BF in that log.

Another alternative is to sell it to a tree service type or logger who will haul it to a mill. Dunno your local prices, but hard maple is $.45/BF in the log here....oak would likely be a bit more....figure he'll give you half the mill price....you can call a big mill locally and get the prices.

[ 10-17-2003, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

Bob Smalser
10-17-2003, 12:50 PM
I'd come mill it for you, but it's too long a hike.

http://www.sawmill-exchange.com/index.htm

http://www.mobilemfg.com/

http://www.baileys-online.com/

http://www.woodmizer.com/welcome.html

Check the phonebook and the mill manufacturers/sellers for portable sawmillers locally. Local tree service guys will know of them, too. Few advertise.

That's a pretty small job...less than two hours work....not worth the trip for many....but you can probably find somebody.

Depends on what's cut...1X6's take 4 times the time to cut as 6X6's....but the usual deal is a percentage of the boards or cost per thousand BF.

Typical deals are $400 per thousand or half the boards on a small job....you've only got 600BF in that log.

Another alternative is to sell it to a tree service type or logger who will haul it to a mill. Dunno your local prices, but hard maple is $.45/BF in the log here....oak would likely be a bit more....figure he'll give you half the mill price....you can call a big mill locally and get the prices.

[ 10-17-2003, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

Bob Smalser
10-17-2003, 12:50 PM
I'd come mill it for you, but it's too long a hike.

http://www.sawmill-exchange.com/index.htm

http://www.mobilemfg.com/

http://www.baileys-online.com/

http://www.woodmizer.com/welcome.html

Check the phonebook and the mill manufacturers/sellers for portable sawmillers locally. Local tree service guys will know of them, too. Few advertise.

That's a pretty small job...less than two hours work....not worth the trip for many....but you can probably find somebody.

Depends on what's cut...1X6's take 4 times the time to cut as 6X6's....but the usual deal is a percentage of the boards or cost per thousand BF.

Typical deals are $400 per thousand or half the boards on a small job....you've only got 600BF in that log.

Another alternative is to sell it to a tree service type or logger who will haul it to a mill. Dunno your local prices, but hard maple is $.45/BF in the log here....oak would likely be a bit more....figure he'll give you half the mill price....you can call a big mill locally and get the prices.

[ 10-17-2003, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

Seth Wood
10-17-2003, 01:15 PM
Brad -

I'm in central VA but unfortunately I have all the white oak I need. But I can recommend a couple custom sawyers -- Rock Hill in Culpeper, Red Brook in Charlottesville, there's a timberframing company outside of Richmond, Dreaming Creek, that evidently can cut up to 60'. And there are a few guys with portable mills.

Part of me is tempted to collect giant timbers like this just out of principle -- you're right in that they should not be stove fodder -- but I'm afraid all I can do is recommend names and numbers. Let me know here or by email if you want more info.

Seth Wood
10-17-2003, 01:15 PM
Brad -

I'm in central VA but unfortunately I have all the white oak I need. But I can recommend a couple custom sawyers -- Rock Hill in Culpeper, Red Brook in Charlottesville, there's a timberframing company outside of Richmond, Dreaming Creek, that evidently can cut up to 60'. And there are a few guys with portable mills.

Part of me is tempted to collect giant timbers like this just out of principle -- you're right in that they should not be stove fodder -- but I'm afraid all I can do is recommend names and numbers. Let me know here or by email if you want more info.

Seth Wood
10-17-2003, 01:15 PM
Brad -

I'm in central VA but unfortunately I have all the white oak I need. But I can recommend a couple custom sawyers -- Rock Hill in Culpeper, Red Brook in Charlottesville, there's a timberframing company outside of Richmond, Dreaming Creek, that evidently can cut up to 60'. And there are a few guys with portable mills.

Part of me is tempted to collect giant timbers like this just out of principle -- you're right in that they should not be stove fodder -- but I'm afraid all I can do is recommend names and numbers. Let me know here or by email if you want more info.

Venchka
10-17-2003, 01:37 PM
Make the sawyer pledge an oath that the wood will go to worthy CONSTRUCTION projects, namely boat building? :D

If the sawmill guys don't have a client for the timber, Duke at New England Naval Timbers is on the road a lot looking for just this kind of wood.
DUKE AT
NEW ENGLAND NAVAL TIMBERS
CORNWALL, CT 06753
860-693-8425 VOICE
860-843-7636 FAX

Venchka
10-17-2003, 01:37 PM
Make the sawyer pledge an oath that the wood will go to worthy CONSTRUCTION projects, namely boat building? :D

If the sawmill guys don't have a client for the timber, Duke at New England Naval Timbers is on the road a lot looking for just this kind of wood.
DUKE AT
NEW ENGLAND NAVAL TIMBERS
CORNWALL, CT 06753
860-693-8425 VOICE
860-843-7636 FAX

Venchka
10-17-2003, 01:37 PM
Make the sawyer pledge an oath that the wood will go to worthy CONSTRUCTION projects, namely boat building? :D

If the sawmill guys don't have a client for the timber, Duke at New England Naval Timbers is on the road a lot looking for just this kind of wood.
DUKE AT
NEW ENGLAND NAVAL TIMBERS
CORNWALL, CT 06753
860-693-8425 VOICE
860-843-7636 FAX

cs
10-17-2003, 02:30 PM
Man I wish you were closer. I can see the keel for my Friendship Sloop in that log.

Chad

cs
10-17-2003, 02:30 PM
Man I wish you were closer. I can see the keel for my Friendship Sloop in that log.

Chad

cs
10-17-2003, 02:30 PM
Man I wish you were closer. I can see the keel for my Friendship Sloop in that log.

Chad

Venchka
10-17-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by cs:
Man I wish you were closer. I can see the keel for my Friendship Sloop in that log.

ChadWhat are you waiting for? Day there. Day back. Go get it! Good keel lumber doesn't grow on trees. Wait. Did I say that? Anyway, it's a lot closer than you think and won't be around long.

Take a trailer. Worst case, rent a U-HAUL trailer or truck where the logs are.

Go get it!

Venchka
10-17-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by cs:
Man I wish you were closer. I can see the keel for my Friendship Sloop in that log.

ChadWhat are you waiting for? Day there. Day back. Go get it! Good keel lumber doesn't grow on trees. Wait. Did I say that? Anyway, it's a lot closer than you think and won't be around long.

Take a trailer. Worst case, rent a U-HAUL trailer or truck where the logs are.

Go get it!

Venchka
10-17-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by cs:
Man I wish you were closer. I can see the keel for my Friendship Sloop in that log.

ChadWhat are you waiting for? Day there. Day back. Go get it! Good keel lumber doesn't grow on trees. Wait. Did I say that? Anyway, it's a lot closer than you think and won't be around long.

Take a trailer. Worst case, rent a U-HAUL trailer or truck where the logs are.

Go get it!

cs
10-20-2003, 09:51 AM
I wish it was that simple, but it isn't. I do hope though that it ends up in a boat.

Chad

cs
10-20-2003, 09:51 AM
I wish it was that simple, but it isn't. I do hope though that it ends up in a boat.

Chad

cs
10-20-2003, 09:51 AM
I wish it was that simple, but it isn't. I do hope though that it ends up in a boat.

Chad