Safe-T-Planer

[Paul Scheuer]

Safe-T-Planer.

Among the tools from Grampa’s shop were two Wagner “Safe-T-Planer” drill press attachments. I’ll do a photo later. Made by Gilmore Pattern Works, Tulsa Oklahome, Patent No 2785713.

There is a 3 in. diameter zinc (I think) disc on the end of a shaft. The disc is about 1/2 in. total thickness with the bottom 1/4 in. reduced in diameter about 1/4 in. There are three cutting tools set in cut outs in the face of the bottom section. They are 3/4 in. discs with notches cut so that a sharp edge is presented at the outside of the lower disc. There is an adjustment screw in each that would allow for setting the depth of the cut (from the outside edge of the lower disc).

The instructions call for a solid table/fence to be attached to the drill press table. They show the work being fed in from the side and the tool cutting the surface in a circular fashion. They also show some interesting uses for cutting shallow coves, etc. by tilting the table.

Anyone ever use one ? Looks like an inexpensive way to dimension lumber.
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[Paul Scheuer]

Safe-T-Planer.

Among the tools from Grampa’s shop were two Wagner “Safe-T-Planer” drill press attachments. I’ll do a photo later. Made by Gilmore Pattern Works, Tulsa Oklahome, Patent No 2785713.

There is a 3 in. diameter zinc (I think) disc on the end of a shaft. The disc is about 1/2 in. total thickness with the bottom 1/4 in. reduced in diameter about 1/4 in. There are three cutting tools set in cut outs in the face of the bottom section. They are 3/4 in. discs with notches cut so that a sharp edge is presented at the outside of the lower disc. There is an adjustment screw in each that would allow for setting the depth of the cut (from the outside edge of the lower disc).

The instructions call for a solid table/fence to be attached to the drill press table. They show the work being fed in from the side and the tool cutting the surface in a circular fashion. They also show some interesting uses for cutting shallow coves, etc. by tilting the table.

Anyone ever use one ? Looks like an inexpensive way to dimension lumber.
.

[Paul Scheuer]

Safe-T-Planer.

Among the tools from Grampa’s shop were two Wagner “Safe-T-Planer” drill press attachments. I’ll do a photo later. Made by Gilmore Pattern Works, Tulsa Oklahome, Patent No 2785713.

There is a 3 in. diameter zinc (I think) disc on the end of a shaft. The disc is about 1/2 in. total thickness with the bottom 1/4 in. reduced in diameter about 1/4 in. There are three cutting tools set in cut outs in the face of the bottom section. They are 3/4 in. discs with notches cut so that a sharp edge is presented at the outside of the lower disc. There is an adjustment screw in each that would allow for setting the depth of the cut (from the outside edge of the lower disc).

The instructions call for a solid table/fence to be attached to the drill press table. They show the work being fed in from the side and the tool cutting the surface in a circular fashion. They also show some interesting uses for cutting shallow coves, etc. by tilting the table.

Anyone ever use one ? Looks like an inexpensive way to dimension lumber.
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[capt jake]

call for a solid table/fence to be attached Yes solid. If anything comes loose using one of these devils, watch out. Never used one, have looked at them and they look a little too scary for me. Power planers are getting cheap, and thye work very well.
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[capt jake]

call for a solid table/fence to be attached Yes solid. If anything comes loose using one of these devils, watch out. Never used one, have looked at them and they look a little too scary for me. Power planers are getting cheap, and thye work very well.
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[capt jake]

call for a solid table/fence to be attached Yes solid. If anything comes loose using one of these devils, watch out. Never used one, have looked at them and they look a little too scary for me. Power planers are getting cheap, and thye work very well.
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[Dave Fleming]

There are some tools that in theory sound feasable but in practice well...lets say I like my hands, feet, intestines, etc.....
Not interested in seeing them scattered all over the workshop walls.

Delta/Rockwell made a stationary wood working tool with a multiple tooth cutter head at right angles to the table.
Picture a jointer with solid table and a whirring cutter head in the middle of the fence.
That thing put the fear of God in me when I first saw it in the Berkeley CA., high school wood shop! I was required to attend the 'uptown carpenters' apprentice classes held there, because there were no shipwright classes in the San Franciso Bay Area.
The instructor in no uncertain terms told us NOT to turn that thing on.
I have learned over the years that Luthiers are fond of that tool but let me tell you folks, this child ain't never gonna try one out.

[ 07-21-2002, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: Dave Fleming ]

[Dave Fleming]

There are some tools that in theory sound feasable but in practice well...lets say I like my hands, feet, intestines, etc.....
Not interested in seeing them scattered all over the workshop walls.

Delta/Rockwell made a stationary wood working tool with a multiple tooth cutter head at right angles to the table.
Picture a jointer with solid table and a whirring cutter head in the middle of the fence.
That thing put the fear of God in me when I first saw it in the Berkeley CA., high school wood shop! I was required to attend the 'uptown carpenters' apprentice classes held there, because there were no shipwright classes in the San Franciso Bay Area.
The instructor in no uncertain terms told us NOT to turn that thing on.
I have learned over the years that Luthiers are fond of that tool but let me tell you folks, this child ain't never gonna try one out.

[ 07-21-2002, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: Dave Fleming ]

[Dave Fleming]

There are some tools that in theory sound feasable but in practice well...lets say I like my hands, feet, intestines, etc.....
Not interested in seeing them scattered all over the workshop walls.

Delta/Rockwell made a stationary wood working tool with a multiple tooth cutter head at right angles to the table.
Picture a jointer with solid table and a whirring cutter head in the middle of the fence.
That thing put the fear of God in me when I first saw it in the Berkeley CA., high school wood shop! I was required to attend the 'uptown carpenters' apprentice classes held there, because there were no shipwright classes in the San Franciso Bay Area.
The instructor in no uncertain terms told us NOT to turn that thing on.
I have learned over the years that Luthiers are fond of that tool but let me tell you folks, this child ain't never gonna try one out.

[ 07-21-2002, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: Dave Fleming ]

[capt jake]

Dave, you were brave enough to saY what I was thinking. It scares me to even look at one!

[capt jake]

Dave, you were brave enough to saY what I was thinking. It scares me to even look at one!

[capt jake]

Dave, you were brave enough to saY what I was thinking. It scares me to even look at one!

[NormMessinger]

Boy,and how! I got one with my Craftsman radial arm saw years ago. That thing 'll see you coming reach out and grab ya by the hand and pull ya right in. I figured that out that possibility the first time I tried to use it and it has not been on the saw since.

Toss the sucker, keep you fingers.

--Norm

[NormMessinger]

Boy,and how! I got one with my Craftsman radial arm saw years ago. That thing 'll see you coming reach out and grab ya by the hand and pull ya right in. I figured that out that possibility the first time I tried to use it and it has not been on the saw since.

Toss the sucker, keep you fingers.

--Norm

[NormMessinger]

Boy,and how! I got one with my Craftsman radial arm saw years ago. That thing 'll see you coming reach out and grab ya by the hand and pull ya right in. I figured that out that possibility the first time I tried to use it and it has not been on the saw since.

Toss the sucker, keep you fingers.

--Norm

[capt jake]

I Know I shoulda said what I thought!! Now that the master has spoken, and the truth at that.
Love your work Norm!!!!!!! smile.gif smile.gif

[capt jake]

I Know I shoulda said what I thought!! Now that the master has spoken, and the truth at that.
Love your work Norm!!!!!!! smile.gif smile.gif

[capt jake]

I Know I shoulda said what I thought!! Now that the master has spoken, and the truth at that.
Love your work Norm!!!!!!! smile.gif smile.gif

[Sailing-Randy]

I also have one for my craftsman radial arm saw. It not only looks dangerous, but I couldn't get it to do a true flat cut. Something about 3 little teeth trying to make a flat surface that doesn't work out very well, I haven't used mine in years. I wonder if I still have it. Now you know why they were still in your grandpa's shop. I bet they might even still be in the boxes they came in. :D

[Sailing-Randy]

I also have one for my craftsman radial arm saw. It not only looks dangerous, but I couldn't get it to do a true flat cut. Something about 3 little teeth trying to make a flat surface that doesn't work out very well, I haven't used mine in years. I wonder if I still have it. Now you know why they were still in your grandpa's shop. I bet they might even still be in the boxes they came in. :D

[Sailing-Randy]

I also have one for my craftsman radial arm saw. It not only looks dangerous, but I couldn't get it to do a true flat cut. Something about 3 little teeth trying to make a flat surface that doesn't work out very well, I haven't used mine in years. I wonder if I still have it. Now you know why they were still in your grandpa's shop. I bet they might even still be in the boxes they came in. :D

[capt jake]

Well there you have it Paul. Keep it in the box and sell it at the next garage or antique sale!
Don't you hate it when that happens? Be firm on the price, because you will get it!!!!!!! smile.gif

[capt jake]

Well there you have it Paul. Keep it in the box and sell it at the next garage or antique sale!
Don't you hate it when that happens? Be firm on the price, because you will get it!!!!!!! smile.gif

[capt jake]

Well there you have it Paul. Keep it in the box and sell it at the next garage or antique sale!
Don't you hate it when that happens? Be firm on the price, because you will get it!!!!!!! smile.gif

[doorstop]

Had one.
Scared me.
Dumped it.

[doorstop]

Had one.
Scared me.
Dumped it.

[doorstop]

Had one.
Scared me.
Dumped it.

[RGM]

Besides being an accident waiting to happen, your drill press and just about everyone else's is not designed to stand up to the stress, strain and side loading that tools like that impart. Like the other guys, long ago before I knew better I tried one of those devices on a radial arm saw. It took about 0.050 seconds for me to realize that I was never going to use one of those again. Nothing will bring a drill press to it's knees quicker (wear out,lose accuracy) than alot of hole saw, drum sander and Safe-T-Planer type work. It slices, it dices, it's a wonder tool! Don't sell it, throw it out so someone doesn't get hurt.

[RGM]

Besides being an accident waiting to happen, your drill press and just about everyone else's is not designed to stand up to the stress, strain and side loading that tools like that impart. Like the other guys, long ago before I knew better I tried one of those devices on a radial arm saw. It took about 0.050 seconds for me to realize that I was never going to use one of those again. Nothing will bring a drill press to it's knees quicker (wear out,lose accuracy) than alot of hole saw, drum sander and Safe-T-Planer type work. It slices, it dices, it's a wonder tool! Don't sell it, throw it out so someone doesn't get hurt.

[RGM]

Besides being an accident waiting to happen, your drill press and just about everyone else's is not designed to stand up to the stress, strain and side loading that tools like that impart. Like the other guys, long ago before I knew better I tried one of those devices on a radial arm saw. It took about 0.050 seconds for me to realize that I was never going to use one of those again. Nothing will bring a drill press to it's knees quicker (wear out,lose accuracy) than alot of hole saw, drum sander and Safe-T-Planer type work. It slices, it dices, it's a wonder tool! Don't sell it, throw it out so someone doesn't get hurt.

[Ed Harrow]

Seen'em. Didn't buy one. :eek:

Rodger, please comment further on the use of hole saws with drill presses. I don't understand why that should be significantly different than drilling with any large bit.

[Ed Harrow]

Seen'em. Didn't buy one. :eek:

Rodger, please comment further on the use of hole saws with drill presses. I don't understand why that should be significantly different than drilling with any large bit.

[Ed Harrow]

Seen'em. Didn't buy one. :eek:

Rodger, please comment further on the use of hole saws with drill presses. I don't understand why that should be significantly different than drilling with any large bit.

[Paul Scheuer]

You guy's seem to have hit all my concerns. Yes Randy, one of them is still in the box. The one for the radial arm. Grandpa was a hell of a craftsman, if not a little "too picky" for my taste. 'Built all the furniture, cabinets, clocks, etc in the house (and one wooden boat). I can't see him using or keeping anything that wasn't safe if used properly. One of his door panels is a styleized rooster carved in pine. This may have been just the tool for the rooster's arched tapered feathers.

[Paul Scheuer]

You guy's seem to have hit all my concerns. Yes Randy, one of them is still in the box. The one for the radial arm. Grandpa was a hell of a craftsman, if not a little "too picky" for my taste. 'Built all the furniture, cabinets, clocks, etc in the house (and one wooden boat). I can't see him using or keeping anything that wasn't safe if used properly. One of his door panels is a styleized rooster carved in pine. This may have been just the tool for the rooster's arched tapered feathers.

[Paul Scheuer]

You guy's seem to have hit all my concerns. Yes Randy, one of them is still in the box. The one for the radial arm. Grandpa was a hell of a craftsman, if not a little "too picky" for my taste. 'Built all the furniture, cabinets, clocks, etc in the house (and one wooden boat). I can't see him using or keeping anything that wasn't safe if used properly. One of his door panels is a styleized rooster carved in pine. This may have been just the tool for the rooster's arched tapered feathers.

[videoguy]

Got one tried it one time threw it in the trash . About all it was good for is slinging wood across the shop. It scared the hell out of me.

[videoguy]

Got one tried it one time threw it in the trash . About all it was good for is slinging wood across the shop. It scared the hell out of me.

[videoguy]

Got one tried it one time threw it in the trash . About all it was good for is slinging wood across the shop. It scared the hell out of me.