Hand Held Compass

[Dennis Marshall]

Any recommendations from forumites on hand held compasses either magnetic or digital? Any and all advice welcome.

Dennis

[Dennis Marshall]

Any recommendations from forumites on hand held compasses either magnetic or digital? Any and all advice welcome.

Dennis

[Dennis Marshall]

Any recommendations from forumites on hand held compasses either magnetic or digital? Any and all advice welcome.

Dennis

[Meerkat]

There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.

[Meerkat]

There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.

[Meerkat]

There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.

[dmede]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.Double check the function of these devices. Many require the device to be moving to determine compass direction and will simply display the last heading or north reading when still. That is simply turning in a circle will not produce an acurate change in compass heading.

[dmede]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.Double check the function of these devices. Many require the device to be moving to determine compass direction and will simply display the last heading or north reading when still. That is simply turning in a circle will not produce an acurate change in compass heading.

[dmede]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.Double check the function of these devices. Many require the device to be moving to determine compass direction and will simply display the last heading or north reading when still. That is simply turning in a circle will not produce an acurate change in compass heading.

[cs]

Let me recomend the Military issue Lensatic Compass.

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/images/3615.jpg

It is tough and durable. It can be bought at a price anywhere from $50 to $100. It comes with a luminous dial (re-chargeable under headlights) or a Titium dial (don't have to recharge). It is battle proven and about as dependable as it gets. Check your local Army surplus store, but be leary of cheap imitations.

Here is a link to one at the US Calvery store.

Compass (http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7586&tabID=)

Chad

edited to add:

Here is the tritium compass & link

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/3629L.jpg

Tritium Compass (http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7587&tabID=)

[ 07-27-2004, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: cs ]

[cs]

Let me recomend the Military issue Lensatic Compass.

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/images/3615.jpg

It is tough and durable. It can be bought at a price anywhere from $50 to $100. It comes with a luminous dial (re-chargeable under headlights) or a Titium dial (don't have to recharge). It is battle proven and about as dependable as it gets. Check your local Army surplus store, but be leary of cheap imitations.

Here is a link to one at the US Calvery store.

Compass (http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7586&tabID=)

Chad

edited to add:

Here is the tritium compass & link

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/3629L.jpg

Tritium Compass (http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7587&tabID=)

[ 07-27-2004, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: cs ]

[cs]

Let me recomend the Military issue Lensatic Compass.

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/images/3615.jpg

It is tough and durable. It can be bought at a price anywhere from $50 to $100. It comes with a luminous dial (re-chargeable under headlights) or a Titium dial (don't have to recharge). It is battle proven and about as dependable as it gets. Check your local Army surplus store, but be leary of cheap imitations.

Here is a link to one at the US Calvery store.

Compass (http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7586&tabID=)

Chad

edited to add:

Here is the tritium compass & link

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/3629L.jpg

Tritium Compass (http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7587&tabID=)

[ 07-27-2004, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: cs ]

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by dmede:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Meerkat:
There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.Double check the function of these devices. Many require the device to be moving to determine compass direction and will simply display the last heading or north reading when still. That is simply turning in a circle will not produce an acurate change in compass heading.</font>[/QUOTE]Those that require movement to show heading don't actually have a compass built-in. They infer heading from change in location. Some GPS units and the Datascope DO have fluxgate compasses built in.

The DataScope combines a 5x30 monocular, a digital compass, an electronic rangefinder, and a chronometer in one handheld unit, making it the most versatile navigational instrument available today. Ideal for sailors, boaters, hikers, hunters, and other outdoor enthusiasts, the DataScope accurately computes the range and bearing to an object with just the push of a button. And since the information is superimposed on the scope’s field of view, you never need to take your eyes off of the target! Lightweight, waterproof, and small enough to fit in a shirt pocket, the DataScope puts precision navigation into the palm of your hand. :eek: $400! :eek:

[ 07-27-2004, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by dmede:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Meerkat:
There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.Double check the function of these devices. Many require the device to be moving to determine compass direction and will simply display the last heading or north reading when still. That is simply turning in a circle will not produce an acurate change in compass heading.</font>[/QUOTE]Those that require movement to show heading don't actually have a compass built-in. They infer heading from change in location. Some GPS units and the Datascope DO have fluxgate compasses built in.

The DataScope combines a 5x30 monocular, a digital compass, an electronic rangefinder, and a chronometer in one handheld unit, making it the most versatile navigational instrument available today. Ideal for sailors, boaters, hikers, hunters, and other outdoor enthusiasts, the DataScope accurately computes the range and bearing to an object with just the push of a button. And since the information is superimposed on the scope’s field of view, you never need to take your eyes off of the target! Lightweight, waterproof, and small enough to fit in a shirt pocket, the DataScope puts precision navigation into the palm of your hand. :eek: $400! :eek:

[ 07-27-2004, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by dmede:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Meerkat:
There are a couple of GPS units with built-in digital compasses. Pricy.

I always thought those datascopes where way cool. Pricy too.Double check the function of these devices. Many require the device to be moving to determine compass direction and will simply display the last heading or north reading when still. That is simply turning in a circle will not produce an acurate change in compass heading.</font>[/QUOTE]Those that require movement to show heading don't actually have a compass built-in. They infer heading from change in location. Some GPS units and the Datascope DO have fluxgate compasses built in.

The DataScope combines a 5x30 monocular, a digital compass, an electronic rangefinder, and a chronometer in one handheld unit, making it the most versatile navigational instrument available today. Ideal for sailors, boaters, hikers, hunters, and other outdoor enthusiasts, the DataScope accurately computes the range and bearing to an object with just the push of a button. And since the information is superimposed on the scope’s field of view, you never need to take your eyes off of the target! Lightweight, waterproof, and small enough to fit in a shirt pocket, the DataScope puts precision navigation into the palm of your hand. :eek: $400! :eek:

[ 07-27-2004, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

[SC-Lion]

I've always liked my Vion Mini (hockey puck). I've had mine about 15 years and aside from some bubbles but has held up very well to a lot of use. Same as in the photo, but mine's yellow.

http://www.hopkins-carter.com/images/HCL051021.gif

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

I've always liked my Vion Mini (hockey puck). I've had mine about 15 years and aside from some bubbles but has held up very well to a lot of use. Same as in the photo, but mine's yellow.

http://www.hopkins-carter.com/images/HCL051021.gif

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

I've always liked my Vion Mini (hockey puck). I've had mine about 15 years and aside from some bubbles but has held up very well to a lot of use. Same as in the photo, but mine's yellow.

http://www.hopkins-carter.com/images/HCL051021.gif

-Gary

[Dennis Marshall]

Thanks for the replies, all. Meerkat, I guess I forgot to mention cheap!

Dennis

[Dennis Marshall]

Thanks for the replies, all. Meerkat, I guess I forgot to mention cheap!

Dennis

[Dennis Marshall]

Thanks for the replies, all. Meerkat, I guess I forgot to mention cheap!

Dennis

[Meerkat]

If cheap is the order of the day, I think you can forget a digital compass...

[Meerkat]

If cheap is the order of the day, I think you can forget a digital compass...

[Meerkat]

If cheap is the order of the day, I think you can forget a digital compass...

[Bruce Hooke]

I assume this is for use on a boat, right? If so, then this model made by Davis has served me well:

http://www.westmarine.com/images/full/01743_f.jpg

West Marine sells it for $32.99 (part # 108241) for the non-illuminated version or $39.99 (part # 108258) for the illuminated version.

It lacks a lot of the nice features that better hand bearing compasses probably have and it's probably not as accurate as the fancy models nor as quick to use, but if you looking for something that will get the job done without breaking the bank this unit should do the trick. With care you can certainly get a reading within a few degrees. Two things I will say against it:

1. It's not very compact and because of its shape it's hard to store.

2. Because of the design, it also needs somewhat careful handling. I broke off one of the plastic arms that you sight across and had to glue it back on.

If this is for use on land then of course we're talking about a completely different situation. For that I love my Suunto...

[Bruce Hooke]

I assume this is for use on a boat, right? If so, then this model made by Davis has served me well:

http://www.westmarine.com/images/full/01743_f.jpg

West Marine sells it for $32.99 (part # 108241) for the non-illuminated version or $39.99 (part # 108258) for the illuminated version.

It lacks a lot of the nice features that better hand bearing compasses probably have and it's probably not as accurate as the fancy models nor as quick to use, but if you looking for something that will get the job done without breaking the bank this unit should do the trick. With care you can certainly get a reading within a few degrees. Two things I will say against it:

1. It's not very compact and because of its shape it's hard to store.

2. Because of the design, it also needs somewhat careful handling. I broke off one of the plastic arms that you sight across and had to glue it back on.

If this is for use on land then of course we're talking about a completely different situation. For that I love my Suunto...

[Bruce Hooke]

I assume this is for use on a boat, right? If so, then this model made by Davis has served me well:

http://www.westmarine.com/images/full/01743_f.jpg

West Marine sells it for $32.99 (part # 108241) for the non-illuminated version or $39.99 (part # 108258) for the illuminated version.

It lacks a lot of the nice features that better hand bearing compasses probably have and it's probably not as accurate as the fancy models nor as quick to use, but if you looking for something that will get the job done without breaking the bank this unit should do the trick. With care you can certainly get a reading within a few degrees. Two things I will say against it:

1. It's not very compact and because of its shape it's hard to store.

2. Because of the design, it also needs somewhat careful handling. I broke off one of the plastic arms that you sight across and had to glue it back on.

If this is for use on land then of course we're talking about a completely different situation. For that I love my Suunto...

[Stiletto]

When I went looking for a digital compass I ended up buying a GPS for only a few dollars more and stuck with an old handbearing compass.

[Stiletto]

When I went looking for a digital compass I ended up buying a GPS for only a few dollars more and stuck with an old handbearing compass.

[Stiletto]

When I went looking for a digital compass I ended up buying a GPS for only a few dollars more and stuck with an old handbearing compass.

[Meerkat]

Opinions on this one?: http://www.sailnet.com/store/performance/item.cfm?pid=18890

[Meerkat]

Opinions on this one?: http://www.sailnet.com/store/performance/item.cfm?pid=18890

[Meerkat]

Opinions on this one?: http://www.sailnet.com/store/performance/item.cfm?pid=18890

[Meerkat]

Just the thing for your wooden boat! ;) :
http://216.71.49.53/shop/media/weemsplath_4004.jpg
Elegant Compass (http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/product387.html)

[Meerkat]

Just the thing for your wooden boat! ;) :
http://216.71.49.53/shop/media/weemsplath_4004.jpg
Elegant Compass (http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/product387.html)

[Meerkat]

Just the thing for your wooden boat! ;) :
http://216.71.49.53/shop/media/weemsplath_4004.jpg
Elegant Compass (http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/product387.html)

[paladin]

I have had one of the standard military units for about 35 years and it still works fine....accurate...and the batteries never need replacement. :D

[paladin]

I have had one of the standard military units for about 35 years and it still works fine....accurate...and the batteries never need replacement. :D

[paladin]

I have had one of the standard military units for about 35 years and it still works fine....accurate...and the batteries never need replacement. :D

[SC-Lion]

That's pretty cool Meerkat. It's a Vion Mini with the rubber replaced with wood. Just might be a winter project to convert mine to a nice wood trim.

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

That's pretty cool Meerkat. It's a Vion Mini with the rubber replaced with wood. Just might be a winter project to convert mine to a nice wood trim.

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

That's pretty cool Meerkat. It's a Vion Mini with the rubber replaced with wood. Just might be a winter project to convert mine to a nice wood trim.

-Gary

[Meerkat]

It is pretty, but I don't know how practical it is... hate to see that wood/varnish all dinged up.

[Meerkat]

It is pretty, but I don't know how practical it is... hate to see that wood/varnish all dinged up.

[Meerkat]

It is pretty, but I don't know how practical it is... hate to see that wood/varnish all dinged up.

[cs]

Dennis, I would like to reinforce what I said, and if you notice Chuck agrees, the miiitary compass is about the most bang for your buck. It is rugged, simple and easy to read and has the luminous dial. Even comes with a lanyard to attach it to your belt or pocket or even put around your neck.

When I bought a compass for my personal use, this is what I got.

Chad

[cs]

Dennis, I would like to reinforce what I said, and if you notice Chuck agrees, the miiitary compass is about the most bang for your buck. It is rugged, simple and easy to read and has the luminous dial. Even comes with a lanyard to attach it to your belt or pocket or even put around your neck.

When I bought a compass for my personal use, this is what I got.

Chad

[cs]

Dennis, I would like to reinforce what I said, and if you notice Chuck agrees, the miiitary compass is about the most bang for your buck. It is rugged, simple and easy to read and has the luminous dial. Even comes with a lanyard to attach it to your belt or pocket or even put around your neck.

When I bought a compass for my personal use, this is what I got.

Chad

[SC-Lion]

Chad I’m not saying that the compass you’re recommending isn’t a great compass, I’ve used similar compasses they’ve worked great. I’m sure a real mil spec one is a very nice piece of equipment.

With that said, for use on the water I wouldn’t give up my Vion. This could be a little like talking about anchors. We all like what we’re used to.

I like the Vion for its simplicity, the one moving part is the card. There are no pieces protruding to snag or break. It has phosphorescent light that charges pretty quick with a flashlight (also available with Tritium). It’s also small and light enough to wear on your neck or stuff in a foully pocket. Just my preferences, but I would buy another in a heart beat if I ever lost this one.

Vion (http://www.landfallnavigation.com/-nmini.html)

Dennis the best advice is to get a couple of different types in your hands and see what you like best. I’ve used the Davis type Bruce showed as well and it works fine.

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

Chad I’m not saying that the compass you’re recommending isn’t a great compass, I’ve used similar compasses they’ve worked great. I’m sure a real mil spec one is a very nice piece of equipment.

With that said, for use on the water I wouldn’t give up my Vion. This could be a little like talking about anchors. We all like what we’re used to.

I like the Vion for its simplicity, the one moving part is the card. There are no pieces protruding to snag or break. It has phosphorescent light that charges pretty quick with a flashlight (also available with Tritium). It’s also small and light enough to wear on your neck or stuff in a foully pocket. Just my preferences, but I would buy another in a heart beat if I ever lost this one.

Vion (http://www.landfallnavigation.com/-nmini.html)

Dennis the best advice is to get a couple of different types in your hands and see what you like best. I’ve used the Davis type Bruce showed as well and it works fine.

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

Chad I’m not saying that the compass you’re recommending isn’t a great compass, I’ve used similar compasses they’ve worked great. I’m sure a real mil spec one is a very nice piece of equipment.

With that said, for use on the water I wouldn’t give up my Vion. This could be a little like talking about anchors. We all like what we’re used to.

I like the Vion for its simplicity, the one moving part is the card. There are no pieces protruding to snag or break. It has phosphorescent light that charges pretty quick with a flashlight (also available with Tritium). It’s also small and light enough to wear on your neck or stuff in a foully pocket. Just my preferences, but I would buy another in a heart beat if I ever lost this one.

Vion (http://www.landfallnavigation.com/-nmini.html)

Dennis the best advice is to get a couple of different types in your hands and see what you like best. I’ve used the Davis type Bruce showed as well and it works fine.

-Gary

[Bob Smalser]

Let me recomend the Military issue Lensatic Compass.
Me too.

Simple, tough, accurate, easy to get a bearing in any weather day or night (one bezel-ring click is 3 degrees), reliable.

While the Brunton Pocket Transit (Military M2 Compass) has its uses on the tripod, my 30-year-old lensatic with all the paint long gone still serves on. I like built-in sights to take accurate bearings on coastal features, and I like to be able to dampen the card when all is in violent motion and I need an azimuth....the lensatic does all that simply and does it well.

I just used it to calibrate the fancy Plastimo Contest bulkhead compass I installed on the kid's boat.

Spring for the tritium...your butt may depend on it some day.

Lotsa cheapo imitations out there...these look to be authentic at 30-60 bucks:

http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/2e/49/56_1.JPG

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52482&item=5111259867&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4087&item=6109570640&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52482&item=5111240423&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36077&item=2259042026&rd=1

[ 07-28-2004, 01:29 AM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

[Bob Smalser]

Let me recomend the Military issue Lensatic Compass.
Me too.

Simple, tough, accurate, easy to get a bearing in any weather day or night (one bezel-ring click is 3 degrees), reliable.

While the Brunton Pocket Transit (Military M2 Compass) has its uses on the tripod, my 30-year-old lensatic with all the paint long gone still serves on. I like built-in sights to take accurate bearings on coastal features, and I like to be able to dampen the card when all is in violent motion and I need an azimuth....the lensatic does all that simply and does it well.

I just used it to calibrate the fancy Plastimo Contest bulkhead compass I installed on the kid's boat.

Spring for the tritium...your butt may depend on it some day.

Lotsa cheapo imitations out there...these look to be authentic at 30-60 bucks:

http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/2e/49/56_1.JPG

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52482&item=5111259867&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4087&item=6109570640&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52482&item=5111240423&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36077&item=2259042026&rd=1

[ 07-28-2004, 01:29 AM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

[Bob Smalser]

Let me recomend the Military issue Lensatic Compass.
Me too.

Simple, tough, accurate, easy to get a bearing in any weather day or night (one bezel-ring click is 3 degrees), reliable.

While the Brunton Pocket Transit (Military M2 Compass) has its uses on the tripod, my 30-year-old lensatic with all the paint long gone still serves on. I like built-in sights to take accurate bearings on coastal features, and I like to be able to dampen the card when all is in violent motion and I need an azimuth....the lensatic does all that simply and does it well.

I just used it to calibrate the fancy Plastimo Contest bulkhead compass I installed on the kid's boat.

Spring for the tritium...your butt may depend on it some day.

Lotsa cheapo imitations out there...these look to be authentic at 30-60 bucks:

http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/2e/49/56_1.JPG

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52482&item=5111259867&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4087&item=6109570640&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52482&item=5111240423&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36077&item=2259042026&rd=1

[ 07-28-2004, 01:29 AM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

As a hand bearing compass, on a boat, but not for hiking use*, the Sestrel Radiant is is the cat's whiskers:

http://www.sirs.co.uk/marine.htm

* It is used for calibrating aircraft compasses, though!

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

As a hand bearing compass, on a boat, but not for hiking use*, the Sestrel Radiant is is the cat's whiskers:

http://www.sirs.co.uk/marine.htm

* It is used for calibrating aircraft compasses, though!

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

As a hand bearing compass, on a boat, but not for hiking use*, the Sestrel Radiant is is the cat's whiskers:

http://www.sirs.co.uk/marine.htm

* It is used for calibrating aircraft compasses, though!

[Meerkat]

Gary; You seemed to have found one of the two places in the US that's selling the Vion for more than $99.99 (the other place is in NY and they're asking $175!!).

From what I can tell, the MiNi 2000 is being replaced by a model called the Axium, either photo-phosphorescent or tritium illuminated. Only place I could find it was from a UK company that prices in $ and ships to the US for about $120, probably shipping is extra.

[Meerkat]

Gary; You seemed to have found one of the two places in the US that's selling the Vion for more than $99.99 (the other place is in NY and they're asking $175!!).

From what I can tell, the MiNi 2000 is being replaced by a model called the Axium, either photo-phosphorescent or tritium illuminated. Only place I could find it was from a UK company that prices in $ and ships to the US for about $120, probably shipping is extra.

[Meerkat]

Gary; You seemed to have found one of the two places in the US that's selling the Vion for more than $99.99 (the other place is in NY and they're asking $175!!).

From what I can tell, the MiNi 2000 is being replaced by a model called the Axium, either photo-phosphorescent or tritium illuminated. Only place I could find it was from a UK company that prices in $ and ships to the US for about $120, probably shipping is extra.

[Hwyl]

I've had my Vion for more than 25 years. I use it for everything (car, hiking, approximate surveying). It got sidelined for a few years because I had binoculars with a compass in them. Nice way to go.

[Hwyl]

I've had my Vion for more than 25 years. I use it for everything (car, hiking, approximate surveying). It got sidelined for a few years because I had binoculars with a compass in them. Nice way to go.

[Hwyl]

I've had my Vion for more than 25 years. I use it for everything (car, hiking, approximate surveying). It got sidelined for a few years because I had binoculars with a compass in them. Nice way to go.

[paladin]

Yup...got the Steiner Binocs with the compass built in....still like my little hockey puck....

[paladin]

Yup...got the Steiner Binocs with the compass built in....still like my little hockey puck....

[paladin]

Yup...got the Steiner Binocs with the compass built in....still like my little hockey puck....

[Stiletto]

CS, does the military compass have a button that freezes the card?

[Stiletto]

CS, does the military compass have a button that freezes the card?

[Stiletto]

CS, does the military compass have a button that freezes the card?

[cs]

Yes it does.

I'm not an expert on compasses, but I have used several different types over the years and have even bought some cheap ones. The lensatic compass has been the best one for quickly getting on your azimuth and not wandering.

Bob, I also have a M2 compass and it is good for what it is for, but that is about it. It is a little harder to read and the M2 artillary compass is mills instead of degrees.

Chad

[cs]

Yes it does.

I'm not an expert on compasses, but I have used several different types over the years and have even bought some cheap ones. The lensatic compass has been the best one for quickly getting on your azimuth and not wandering.

Bob, I also have a M2 compass and it is good for what it is for, but that is about it. It is a little harder to read and the M2 artillary compass is mills instead of degrees.

Chad

[cs]

Yes it does.

I'm not an expert on compasses, but I have used several different types over the years and have even bought some cheap ones. The lensatic compass has been the best one for quickly getting on your azimuth and not wandering.

Bob, I also have a M2 compass and it is good for what it is for, but that is about it. It is a little harder to read and the M2 artillary compass is mills instead of degrees.

Chad

[Ian McColgin]

The military lensatic or the larger and pricier brunton pocket transit are lovely things for soldiers and hikers. They are light, compact when folded, and highly usable on the stabile land.

When bouncing about afloat they are nigh on useless. The 'hocky puck' in its many incarnations basicly has a sight that's a prisum magnifier so you can cast the reading right up on the target and you can operate it, like a shot gun, with both eyes open and thus keep the whole area in view. You can tell how the card is swinging and won't thus freeze the card at an off location prior to taking the compass from your eye to squint at those small numbers.

You want the rubber mounting so it won't slide about.

There was a french model some years back that did not carry the centerline obstruction past the center - it was just where the lens and prism were. This unit could be looked down on and as a whole treated as a compass with a verge ring - IE get on course and then set the compass down such that the N was between the lines on either side of the prism. Easy to steer then.

All current hockpy pucks can be made to do this to a lesser extent if you peel the crud off where the prism isn't.

There's a difference between what's good for the soldier and what's good for the sailor. That's why we call a wind blowing across the harbor mouth a 'soldier's breeze:' Even a soldier can sail out and back if both ways are a reach.

[Ian McColgin]

The military lensatic or the larger and pricier brunton pocket transit are lovely things for soldiers and hikers. They are light, compact when folded, and highly usable on the stabile land.

When bouncing about afloat they are nigh on useless. The 'hocky puck' in its many incarnations basicly has a sight that's a prisum magnifier so you can cast the reading right up on the target and you can operate it, like a shot gun, with both eyes open and thus keep the whole area in view. You can tell how the card is swinging and won't thus freeze the card at an off location prior to taking the compass from your eye to squint at those small numbers.

You want the rubber mounting so it won't slide about.

There was a french model some years back that did not carry the centerline obstruction past the center - it was just where the lens and prism were. This unit could be looked down on and as a whole treated as a compass with a verge ring - IE get on course and then set the compass down such that the N was between the lines on either side of the prism. Easy to steer then.

All current hockpy pucks can be made to do this to a lesser extent if you peel the crud off where the prism isn't.

There's a difference between what's good for the soldier and what's good for the sailor. That's why we call a wind blowing across the harbor mouth a 'soldier's breeze:' Even a soldier can sail out and back if both ways are a reach.

[Ian McColgin]

The military lensatic or the larger and pricier brunton pocket transit are lovely things for soldiers and hikers. They are light, compact when folded, and highly usable on the stabile land.

When bouncing about afloat they are nigh on useless. The 'hocky puck' in its many incarnations basicly has a sight that's a prisum magnifier so you can cast the reading right up on the target and you can operate it, like a shot gun, with both eyes open and thus keep the whole area in view. You can tell how the card is swinging and won't thus freeze the card at an off location prior to taking the compass from your eye to squint at those small numbers.

You want the rubber mounting so it won't slide about.

There was a french model some years back that did not carry the centerline obstruction past the center - it was just where the lens and prism were. This unit could be looked down on and as a whole treated as a compass with a verge ring - IE get on course and then set the compass down such that the N was between the lines on either side of the prism. Easy to steer then.

All current hockpy pucks can be made to do this to a lesser extent if you peel the crud off where the prism isn't.

There's a difference between what's good for the soldier and what's good for the sailor. That's why we call a wind blowing across the harbor mouth a 'soldier's breeze:' Even a soldier can sail out and back if both ways are a reach.

[Bob Smalser]

When bouncing about afloat they are nigh on useless. The 'hocky puck' in its many incarnations basicly has a sight that's a prisum magnifier so you can cast the reading right up on the target and you can operate it, like a shot gun, with both eyes open and thus keep the whole area in view. You can tell how the card is swinging and won't thus freeze the card at an off location prior to taking the compass from your eye to squint at those small numbers.
Hmmmmm.....sounds like they look different but work almost exactly the same to me.

I'll have to email all my old SEAL Team associates that lensatics are useless on boats.

I've used the hockey pucks and think they work fine....I just prefer lensatics from decades of daily use.

To dampen the card, simply get an index finger up there on the eyepiece-card lock and touch it once or twice to stop it's swing. Once you get used to it, its much faster than waiting for an oil-dampened card to come around. The eyepiece has a lens in it so's those small numbers on the card show up clearly.

[Bob Smalser]

When bouncing about afloat they are nigh on useless. The 'hocky puck' in its many incarnations basicly has a sight that's a prisum magnifier so you can cast the reading right up on the target and you can operate it, like a shot gun, with both eyes open and thus keep the whole area in view. You can tell how the card is swinging and won't thus freeze the card at an off location prior to taking the compass from your eye to squint at those small numbers.
Hmmmmm.....sounds like they look different but work almost exactly the same to me.

I'll have to email all my old SEAL Team associates that lensatics are useless on boats.

I've used the hockey pucks and think they work fine....I just prefer lensatics from decades of daily use.

To dampen the card, simply get an index finger up there on the eyepiece-card lock and touch it once or twice to stop it's swing. Once you get used to it, its much faster than waiting for an oil-dampened card to come around. The eyepiece has a lens in it so's those small numbers on the card show up clearly.

[Bob Smalser]

When bouncing about afloat they are nigh on useless. The 'hocky puck' in its many incarnations basicly has a sight that's a prisum magnifier so you can cast the reading right up on the target and you can operate it, like a shot gun, with both eyes open and thus keep the whole area in view. You can tell how the card is swinging and won't thus freeze the card at an off location prior to taking the compass from your eye to squint at those small numbers.
Hmmmmm.....sounds like they look different but work almost exactly the same to me.

I'll have to email all my old SEAL Team associates that lensatics are useless on boats.

I've used the hockey pucks and think they work fine....I just prefer lensatics from decades of daily use.

To dampen the card, simply get an index finger up there on the eyepiece-card lock and touch it once or twice to stop it's swing. Once you get used to it, its much faster than waiting for an oil-dampened card to come around. The eyepiece has a lens in it so's those small numbers on the card show up clearly.

[Ian McColgin]

I'll not knock the lensatic. When I was still climbing it was my choise as it fits well in a pocket, is durable and accurate, and all that.

Had I only one compass in the world and were I to traverse land and sea I might stick with a lensatic for it's lightness and utility ashore even though it's not a good compass to steer a small boat by and it might be better to endure the extra clunkiness of a hocky puck ashore than the diminished utility of the lensatic afloat. A hard call.

I can use my hockypuck as a small boat compass at night in the fog and that's when I need it to get home. And sighting a hard-to-ID headland on the rollypolly is just easier with both eyes open.

But, different boats, different longsplices.

[Ian McColgin]

I'll not knock the lensatic. When I was still climbing it was my choise as it fits well in a pocket, is durable and accurate, and all that.

Had I only one compass in the world and were I to traverse land and sea I might stick with a lensatic for it's lightness and utility ashore even though it's not a good compass to steer a small boat by and it might be better to endure the extra clunkiness of a hocky puck ashore than the diminished utility of the lensatic afloat. A hard call.

I can use my hockypuck as a small boat compass at night in the fog and that's when I need it to get home. And sighting a hard-to-ID headland on the rollypolly is just easier with both eyes open.

But, different boats, different longsplices.

[Ian McColgin]

I'll not knock the lensatic. When I was still climbing it was my choise as it fits well in a pocket, is durable and accurate, and all that.

Had I only one compass in the world and were I to traverse land and sea I might stick with a lensatic for it's lightness and utility ashore even though it's not a good compass to steer a small boat by and it might be better to endure the extra clunkiness of a hocky puck ashore than the diminished utility of the lensatic afloat. A hard call.

I can use my hockypuck as a small boat compass at night in the fog and that's when I need it to get home. And sighting a hard-to-ID headland on the rollypolly is just easier with both eyes open.

But, different boats, different longsplices.

[SC-Lion]

This is a good thread. I hope Dennis can chime in with what he plans on using the compass for, percentage of use on the water to use on land.

Good point Meerkat. I realize Landfall Navigation doesn’t have the best prices. I added a link to them because they generally know and use what they’re selling.

This really is like talking about anchors (talking preferred anchors can be like talking preferred religions). I think it’s what you’re use to using. Almost all of the variation in accuracy is in the user not the compass, so it makes sense that if you’re used to it you’ll stick with it. Have a way to freeze the card would be a nice feature. I’d like to take a Lensatic on a test drive sometime soon and try it out.

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

This is a good thread. I hope Dennis can chime in with what he plans on using the compass for, percentage of use on the water to use on land.

Good point Meerkat. I realize Landfall Navigation doesn’t have the best prices. I added a link to them because they generally know and use what they’re selling.

This really is like talking about anchors (talking preferred anchors can be like talking preferred religions). I think it’s what you’re use to using. Almost all of the variation in accuracy is in the user not the compass, so it makes sense that if you’re used to it you’ll stick with it. Have a way to freeze the card would be a nice feature. I’d like to take a Lensatic on a test drive sometime soon and try it out.

-Gary

[SC-Lion]

This is a good thread. I hope Dennis can chime in with what he plans on using the compass for, percentage of use on the water to use on land.

Good point Meerkat. I realize Landfall Navigation doesn’t have the best prices. I added a link to them because they generally know and use what they’re selling.

This really is like talking about anchors (talking preferred anchors can be like talking preferred religions). I think it’s what you’re use to using. Almost all of the variation in accuracy is in the user not the compass, so it makes sense that if you’re used to it you’ll stick with it. Have a way to freeze the card would be a nice feature. I’d like to take a Lensatic on a test drive sometime soon and try it out.

-Gary

[cs]

Gary, go down to your local Army Surplus store and I would be willing to bet that they would have the geniune article on the shelf. But they will also have cheaper knock offs that may look the same. Question the sales clerck about which one is geniune and I'm sure he will let you look at it.

Chad

[cs]

Gary, go down to your local Army Surplus store and I would be willing to bet that they would have the geniune article on the shelf. But they will also have cheaper knock offs that may look the same. Question the sales clerck about which one is geniune and I'm sure he will let you look at it.

Chad

[cs]

Gary, go down to your local Army Surplus store and I would be willing to bet that they would have the geniune article on the shelf. But they will also have cheaper knock offs that may look the same. Question the sales clerck about which one is geniune and I'm sure he will let you look at it.

Chad

[Matt J.]

For cheap it's hard to beat the Davis.

Never even held a Lensatic compass, let alone a mil-spec one. So Idunno.

But I love the hockey puck from Weems and Plath. I can't see any improvements to be made to it. Maybe the Lensatic points at the object and shouts the bearing, but aside from telling the compass what I want a bearing to and having it said aloud back to me... simple little puck does it well (enough) for me.

Besides, having a mate or crew that you can boss around and let them read bearings back works even better.

[Matt J.]

For cheap it's hard to beat the Davis.

Never even held a Lensatic compass, let alone a mil-spec one. So Idunno.

But I love the hockey puck from Weems and Plath. I can't see any improvements to be made to it. Maybe the Lensatic points at the object and shouts the bearing, but aside from telling the compass what I want a bearing to and having it said aloud back to me... simple little puck does it well (enough) for me.

Besides, having a mate or crew that you can boss around and let them read bearings back works even better.

[Matt J.]

For cheap it's hard to beat the Davis.

Never even held a Lensatic compass, let alone a mil-spec one. So Idunno.

But I love the hockey puck from Weems and Plath. I can't see any improvements to be made to it. Maybe the Lensatic points at the object and shouts the bearing, but aside from telling the compass what I want a bearing to and having it said aloud back to me... simple little puck does it well (enough) for me.

Besides, having a mate or crew that you can boss around and let them read bearings back works even better.

[Dennis Marshall]

Well, I'm glad I raised the topic.

I plan on using the compass primarily on my small boat. I've been reading Rousmaniere's "The Annapolis Book of Seamanship" on charts and navigation and basically want a relatively inexpensive reliable piece of equipment to help me learn about these things and which will come in handy after I have gained more experience.

I've no plans to go "cruising" at the moment, but do have some aspiration of extended camp cruising excursions on the Great Lakes in a few years.

[Dennis Marshall]

Well, I'm glad I raised the topic.

I plan on using the compass primarily on my small boat. I've been reading Rousmaniere's "The Annapolis Book of Seamanship" on charts and navigation and basically want a relatively inexpensive reliable piece of equipment to help me learn about these things and which will come in handy after I have gained more experience.

I've no plans to go "cruising" at the moment, but do have some aspiration of extended camp cruising excursions on the Great Lakes in a few years.

[Dennis Marshall]

Well, I'm glad I raised the topic.

I plan on using the compass primarily on my small boat. I've been reading Rousmaniere's "The Annapolis Book of Seamanship" on charts and navigation and basically want a relatively inexpensive reliable piece of equipment to help me learn about these things and which will come in handy after I have gained more experience.

I've no plans to go "cruising" at the moment, but do have some aspiration of extended camp cruising excursions on the Great Lakes in a few years.

[Paul]

http://www.captainsnautical.com/product.asp?pf_id=1_9

The Nexus Universal 70UNE is a nice compass that you can mount on your boat and remove when you want to take a hand bearing.

[Paul]

http://www.captainsnautical.com/product.asp?pf_id=1_9

The Nexus Universal 70UNE is a nice compass that you can mount on your boat and remove when you want to take a hand bearing.

[Paul]

http://www.captainsnautical.com/product.asp?pf_id=1_9

The Nexus Universal 70UNE is a nice compass that you can mount on your boat and remove when you want to take a hand bearing.

[Rob Hazard]

I bought a Davis handheld a couple years ago, because it was cheaper than a hockey puck type.

It was a bother hanging around my neck, uncomfortable in my pocket, and then the handle busted off the stupid thing.

Sure was cheap, though! :rolleyes:

[Rob Hazard]

I bought a Davis handheld a couple years ago, because it was cheaper than a hockey puck type.

It was a bother hanging around my neck, uncomfortable in my pocket, and then the handle busted off the stupid thing.

Sure was cheap, though! :rolleyes:

[Rob Hazard]

I bought a Davis handheld a couple years ago, because it was cheaper than a hockey puck type.

It was a bother hanging around my neck, uncomfortable in my pocket, and then the handle busted off the stupid thing.

Sure was cheap, though! :rolleyes:

[cs]

Dennis, you can't leave us hanging. Which one did you get?

Chad

[cs]

Dennis, you can't leave us hanging. Which one did you get?

Chad

[cs]

Dennis, you can't leave us hanging. Which one did you get?

Chad

[Dennis Marshall]

Chad, I could not justify the expense of the Lensatic, so I snooped around on Ebay and picked up a new Silva Ranger for less than 20 bucks. Given the market rate of this item, I'm wondering if I didn't buy stolen goods at that price.

Dennis

[Dennis Marshall]

Chad, I could not justify the expense of the Lensatic, so I snooped around on Ebay and picked up a new Silva Ranger for less than 20 bucks. Given the market rate of this item, I'm wondering if I didn't buy stolen goods at that price.

Dennis

[Dennis Marshall]

Chad, I could not justify the expense of the Lensatic, so I snooped around on Ebay and picked up a new Silva Ranger for less than 20 bucks. Given the market rate of this item, I'm wondering if I didn't buy stolen goods at that price.

Dennis

[Mike Field]

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Hh'mmm. I'm coming a bit late to this one, but I have to agree with Andrew, the Radiant is a lovely compass. And the way to use it is to adjust a lanyard on it so you can leave it round your neck while stretching out your arm to take a sight. The lanyard pullls tight when the compass is the right distance for reading, and then compass-lanyard-neck makes a great stabilising system.
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[Mike Field]

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Hh'mmm. I'm coming a bit late to this one, but I have to agree with Andrew, the Radiant is a lovely compass. And the way to use it is to adjust a lanyard on it so you can leave it round your neck while stretching out your arm to take a sight. The lanyard pullls tight when the compass is the right distance for reading, and then compass-lanyard-neck makes a great stabilising system.
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[Mike Field]

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Hh'mmm. I'm coming a bit late to this one, but I have to agree with Andrew, the Radiant is a lovely compass. And the way to use it is to adjust a lanyard on it so you can leave it round your neck while stretching out your arm to take a sight. The lanyard pullls tight when the compass is the right distance for reading, and then compass-lanyard-neck makes a great stabilising system.
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[ErikH]

does anyone else have one of those old weems and plath hand held units? Mine came with a boat once; nice looking and nice to use, though heavy.

[ErikH]

does anyone else have one of those old weems and plath hand held units? Mine came with a boat once; nice looking and nice to use, though heavy.

[ErikH]

does anyone else have one of those old weems and plath hand held units? Mine came with a boat once; nice looking and nice to use, though heavy.