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Cuyahoga Chuck
03-13-2015, 08:02 PM
A reporter for the "Washington Monthy" (I think), appearing on "The McLaughlin Group" tonight, predicted that a victorious Hillary Clinton would offer an available Supreme Court seat to Barack Obama. Good idea or no?

C. Ross
03-13-2015, 08:06 PM
William Howard Taft was the 27th President and 10th Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

He had been a judge before he was President, and there was eight years between the end of his Presidency and his appointment to the Court.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/William_Howard_Taft_1909.jpg/450px-William_Howard_Taft_1909.jpg

wardd
03-13-2015, 08:10 PM
harriet

Cuyahoga Chuck
03-13-2015, 08:20 PM
Yeah, and he was considered an outstanding jurist when he presided here in Ohio and the Phillipinos loved him when he was governor general there, yada, yada, yada! Why are you waltzing around the idea of Obama being on the court? His educational achievents are about equal to those of the (patui!) current chief justice.

C. Ross
03-13-2015, 08:24 PM
Chuck, dude, throttle down. I just think it's interesting that it's happened before.

I'm not sure why President Obama would want it. His temperament seems more suited to Justice than President. But after 15 years of constantly leading with words, the silence demanded of Justices might be simply too much for any person to bear.

ahp
03-13-2015, 08:29 PM
Chuck, dude, throttle down. I just think it's interesting that it's happened before.

I'm not sure why President Obama would want it. His temperament seems more suited to Justice than President. But after 15 years of constantly leading with words, the silence demanded of Justices might be simply too much for any person to bear.

I also doubt the Hillary will be the Democratic nominee.

Ian McColgin
03-13-2015, 08:37 PM
H.D.Taft told his brother, "Willy, don't run for President. You make a better jurist." And he was right.

Anyway, I think Obama would make a wonderful Supreme Court justice but I'm sure that a (hypothetical) President Hillary Clinton would not appoint him.

SMARTINSEN
03-13-2015, 09:01 PM
Yeah, and he was considered an outstanding jurist when he presided here in Ohio and the Phillipinos loved him when he was governor general there, yada, yada, yada! Why are you waltzing around the idea of Obama being on the court? His educational achievents are about equal to those of the (patui!) current chief justice.
Educationally, yes.
Judicially, Obama's experience does not hold a candle to Robert's

i agree w Chris, Obama may not even want the job. Could his putative nomination even get out of the judiciary committee presuming the R's hold the Senate?

Gerarddm
03-14-2015, 12:23 AM
Always thought his temperament was better suited for SCOTUS.

David G
03-14-2015, 12:32 AM
Seems an intriguing notion to me...

oznabrag
03-14-2015, 09:58 AM
I also doubt the Hillary will be the Democratic nominee.

I hope she won't.

Hagan/Warren 2016!

S.V. Airlie
03-14-2015, 10:01 AM
I think it's unlikely. No real experience. May know the law but, books, not in a courtroom.

Paul Pless
03-14-2015, 10:28 AM
I hope he nominates himself. Just to see ronrod's heads explode.

Vince Brennan
03-14-2015, 12:00 PM
Oh, hell. They do that so regularly there's no fun in it anymore.

Cuyahoga Chuck
03-15-2015, 11:21 PM
Educationally, yes.
Judicially, Obama's experience does not hold a candle to Robert's

i agree w Chris, Obama may not even want the job. Could his putative nomination even get out of the judiciary committee presuming the R's hold the Senate?

Roberts has "Citizens United" as part of his legacy. It's going to take a lot of very artful opinion writing to wallpaper over the court's pronouncement that money equals speech. Or that corporations are in fact some of "the people" mentioned so often in the constitution.

Glen Longino
03-15-2015, 11:23 PM
I hope he nominates himself. Just to see ronrod's heads explode.

Rod Rod's head exploded today!;)
Currently housed in Hotel Scot!

skuthorp
03-16-2015, 01:23 AM
Chuck, dude, throttle down. I just think it's interesting that it's happened before.

I'm not sure why President Obama would want it. His temperament seems more suited to Justice than President. But after 15 years of constantly leading with words, the silence demanded of Justices might be simply too much for any person to bear.
I agree, why would he want to be part of that smelly institution. It no longer has the reputation it once had. Over politicised, and well over it's once proud reputation. But then that's just my opinion eh?

Cuyahoga Chuck
03-16-2015, 11:54 AM
Obama is like a flaming hemroid to the Troglodytes. Letting him drift off into the sunset would suit them just fine. Having him around where he can lash the Trogs both on and off the court sounds like God's own work to me.

John Smith
03-16-2015, 12:25 PM
For now this is kind of silly speculation. Obama will be a reasonably young ex-president. I'm sure all sorts of opportunities lie ahead.

C. Ross
03-16-2015, 12:29 PM
It no longer has the reputation it once had.

Well, it is the "Supreme ourt" according to the OP. Once it lost that capital "C" it was allllll downhill.

Concordia 33
03-16-2015, 01:55 PM
A reporter for the "Washington Monthy" (I think), appearing on "The McLaughlin Group" tonight, predicted that a victorious Hillary Clinton would offer an available Supreme Court seat to Barack Obama. Good idea or no?

Assuming for the moment that he would be a good jurist (which I doubt), I don't think Hillary would nominate him as she cannot rely on how he would vote. He and Hillary have a lot of bad blood between them. Their association has been one of political convenience which ended when Obama got re-elected and Hillary resigned as Secretary of State.

RonW
03-16-2015, 02:01 PM
Well why not, he has as much experience as Kagan didn't.....so that would make 2 don't knows with no experience as a judge..and Obviously neither one understands the constitution.

johnw
03-16-2015, 03:05 PM
I think this is a pretty good idea. He has the temperament, and he certainly has as much relevant experience as many Supreme Court justices have had in the past, including Chief JusticesWilliam Rehnquist and Earl Warren.

http://supreme.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/nopriorexp.html

It's quite an impressive list.

Now, can you imagine a Republican Congress confirming Obama?


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Name of Justice
Prior Occupations
Years On Court
Appointed By President:


1. William Rehnquist
Asst. U.S. Attorney General
1972-2005
Nixon (Assoc., 1972),
Reagan (Chief, 1986)


2. Lewis Powell
President of the American Bar Ass'n,
Private Practice
1972-1987
Nixon


3. Abe Fortas
Private Practice
1965-1969
Johnson


4. Byron White
Deputy U.S. Attorney General
1962-1993
Kennedy


5. Arthur Goldberg
U.S. Secretary of Labor
1962-1965
Kennedy


6. Earl Warren
Governor of California
1953-1969
Eisenhower


7. Tom Clark
U.S. Attorney General
1949-1967
Truman


8. Harold Burton
U.S. Senator
1945-1958
Truman


9. Robert Jackson
U.S. Attorney General
1941-1954
F. Roosevelt


10. James Francis Byrnes
U.S. Senator
1941-1942
F. Roosevelt


11. William O. Douglas
Chairman of the S.E.C.
1939-1975
F. Roosevelt


12. Felix Frankfurter
Asst. U.S. Attorney, Asst. Secretary of War,
Prof. of Law at Harvard
1939-1962
F. Roosevelt


13. Stanley Forman Reed
U.S. Solicitor General
1938-1957
F. Roosevelt


14. Owen Josephus Roberts
Special Counsel in "Teapot Dome" investigation and trials
1930-1945
Hoover


15. Harlan Fiske Stone
U.S. Attorney General
1925-1946
Coolidge (Assoc., 1925),
F. Roosevelt (Chief, 1941)


16. Pierce Butler
County Attorney, Private Practice
1923-1939
Harding


17. George Sutherland
U.S. Senator
1922-1938
Harding


18. Louis Brandeis
Private Practice
1916-1939
Wilson


19. James Clark McReynolds
U.S. Attorney General
1914-1941
Wilson


20. Charles Evans Hughes
Governor of New York,
U.S. Secretary of State
1910-1916,
1930-1941
Taft (Assoc., 1910),
Hoover (Chief, 1930)


21. William Henry Moody
U.S. Attorney General
1906-1910
T. Roosevelt


22. George Shiras, Jr
Private Practice
1892-1903
Harrison


23. Melville Fuller
Private Practice
1888-1910
Cleveland


24. Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus Lamar
U.S. Secretary of the Interior, U.S. Senator
1888-1893
Cleveland


25. Joseph Philo Bradley
Private Practice
1870-1892
Grant


26. Salmon P. Chase
U.S. Treasury Secretary
1864-1873
Lincoln


27. Samuel Freeman Miller
Private Practice
1862-1890
Lincoln


28. Noah Haynes Swayne
U.S. Attorney for Ohio, Ohio Legislator
1862-1881
Lincoln


29. Nathan Clifford
Maine & U.S. Attorney General
1858-1881
Buchanan


30. John Archibald Campbell
Alabama Legislator
1853-1861
Pierce


31. Benjamin Robbins Curtis
Massachusetts Legislator
1851-1857
Fillmore


32. John McKinley
U.S. Senator
1838-1852
Van Buren


33. Roger Brooke Taney
Maryland & U.S. Attorney General,
U.S. Treasury Secretary
1836-1864
Jackson


34. Henry Baldwin
U.S. Congressman
1830-1844
Jackson


35. Joseph Story
Speaker of Mass. House of Reps., U.S. Congressman
1812-1845
Madison


36. John Marshall
U.S. Secretary of State
1801-1835
Adams


37. Bushrod Washington
Virginia House of Delegates,
Reporter for Virginia Court of Appeals
1799-1829
Adams


38. William Paterson
Governor of New Jersey
1793-1806
Washington


39. John Jay
President of the Continental Congress,
U.S. Secretary of Foreign Affairs
1789-1795
Washington


40. John Rutledge
Governor of South Carolina
1789-1791, 1795
Washington



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RonW
03-16-2015, 06:36 PM
JohnW -
I think this is a pretty good idea. He has the temperament, and he certainly has as much relevant experience as many Supreme Court justices have had in the past, including Chief JusticesWilliam Rehnquist and Earl Warren.


Justice William Rehnquist -----well golly gee what a small world, Ted Cruz was his law clerk in 96..and Cruz was the first Hispanic to clerk for a Chief Justice of the United States..who would have ever thunk.......

Glen Longino
03-16-2015, 06:45 PM
JohnW -


Justice William Rehnquist -----well golly gee what a small world, Ted Cruz was his law clerk in 96..and Cruz was the first Hispanic to clerk for a Chief Justice of the United States..who would have ever thunk.......

Cruz is an egomaniacal crackpot!

Cuyahoga Chuck
03-16-2015, 10:16 PM
Assuming for the moment that he would be a good jurist (which I doubt), I don't think Hillary would nominate him as she cannot rely on how he would vote. He and Hillary have a lot of bad blood between them. Their association has been one of political convenience which ended when Obama got re-elected and Hillary resigned as Secretary of State.

You've been a rightwinger too long. Things are not that sinister in Democratic politics.

Jim Mahan
03-16-2015, 10:54 PM
...I don't think Hillary would nominate him as she cannot rely on how he would vote. He and Hillary have a lot of bad blood between them. Their association has been one of political convenience which ended when Obama got re-elected and Hillary resigned as Secretary of State.

And President Obama inviting Mrs. Clinton to be Secretary of State fits in your scenario how exactly?