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blindbrook
02-21-2015, 02:47 PM
I'm striking out finding one around New York. Four strokes are too heavy. Any suggestions?

TerryLL
02-21-2015, 03:25 PM
2HP Honda. 28 pounds. Noisy but light.

blindbrook
02-21-2015, 04:27 PM
can't find sellers of new 2 strokes, everything seems 4 stroke

Rich Jones
02-21-2015, 08:09 PM
can't find sellers of new 2 strokes, everything seems 4 stroke I don't believe that new 2-strokes are legal to sell in New York State.

Wooden Boat Fittings
02-21-2015, 11:06 PM
I don't think it's legal to sell new 2-stroke anywhere in the US.

Buy a second-hand one then....


http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/surplus/seagull-t.jpg

Mike :)

SNAPMAN
02-22-2015, 02:06 PM
Old 2 stroke designs have been banned in the US, Canada, Europe and Australia as they were very polluting.

There are new emission standards for new tech 2 stroke outboards. It appears that new ones are still manufactured and sold in the US.

One example: http://www.ioutboardmotors.com/25hp-2-cycle.html

Or the Evinrude E25DTSL E-Tec White http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C215570%7C1794283%7C1794306&id=2590734

Alan
https://sites.google.com/site/helium12sofsailboat/

Breakaway
02-22-2015, 02:24 PM
Old 2 stroke designs have been banned in the US, Canada, Europe and Australia as they were very polluting.




I realize your intent was not to mislead, but this is not quite accurate. Two-stroke engines are not illegal in the US. Not by a long shot. Engines that do not meet clean air standards are what are illegal.

Now, the way most manufacturers have approached these pollution controls is to manufacture four-cycle engines. But Evinrude, for instance manufactures fully-compliant and legal-for-sale two-cycle outboards up to 300-hp. (http://www.evinrude.com/en-us/engines/etec_20/etec_300_hp_g2)

Mercury Marine's OptiMax (https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/engines/outboard/optimax-and-pro-xs/) series of outboards are two-stroke, up to 250-hp. They also make two series of four-cycle engines

Yamaha HPDI outboards (http://yamahaoutboards.com/outboards/2-Stroke-HPDI/overview) 2-stroke engines, again, in big hp.They also offer several series of four-cycle engines.

To the OP:However, the various direct-injection , two-stroke, eco-compliant technology apparently doesn't scale down all the way to 3.5. Evinrude's 3.5. 15-hp engines are all four cycle engines, for example. You will need to scan Craigslist, classifieds, marina bulletins boards, and garage sales. Plenty of engines out there--but they will be used engines.

Kevin

George Ray
02-22-2015, 04:01 PM
2HP Honda. 28 pounds.
Fantastic engines , I have been thrilled with it for over 15years and it stands up to abuse/neglect and just keeps working. and we carry it around with one hand and think nothing of leaning over in awkward spots/positions to mount or dismount it.
Think two army issue draft horses carried in one hand => 2HP.

Wooden Boat Fittings
02-22-2015, 05:43 PM
The one pictured above (albeit tongue-in-cheek) is a 4.5 HP long-shaft and can still be carried in one hand.


http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/images/british%20seagull%20man%202.gif
Mike

blindbrook
02-22-2015, 10:37 PM
Thx all

SNAPMAN
02-23-2015, 12:05 AM
Kevin,

The first line in my post was poorly crafted ;((

I intended to say:

Old 2 stroke designs have been banned from further manufacture in the US, Canada, Europe and Australia as they were very polluting.

There are new emission standards for new tech 2 stroke outboards. It appears that new ones are still manufactured and sold in the US.

Alan
https://sites.google.com/site/helium12sofsailboat/

auscruisertom
02-23-2015, 05:31 AM
I don't think it's legal to sell new 2-stroke anywhere in the US.
I have a 3.5HP 2-stroke Tohatsu long shaft that runs great. Probably has 700+ hours on it.

I will second the Tohatsu 3.5, Tohatsu manufactures up to 20 HP range and Mercury Nissan ect just sticks their labels on them.
The Tohatsu without the forward gear weights in at 23 lbs And I have used those motors since the eighties. Tom

blindbrook
02-24-2015, 11:46 AM
No luck finding new US 2 strokes- but will do some more research

dylan winter
02-24-2015, 04:49 PM
pokey little blighter that engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv1-HSrYtY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qki9jz8B2tA

22 footer shoved along nicely

John Smith
02-24-2015, 08:37 PM
can't find sellers of new 2 strokes, everything seems 4 stroke

Evinrude is two stroke, but their small engines are as heavy as the other four strokes.