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fbauer
09-21-2000, 08:18 AM
We're replacing the fender rope along the gunnel of "Sandy", the Peterson tender for "Annie", our 24 foot double ender. The original line looks to be about 2 inches in diameter, three strand and white. West Marine, Hamilton Marine, and all of the other standard resources have nothing like it. Does anyone have an idea where we can get about 12 feet of this material?

fbauer
09-21-2000, 08:18 AM
We're replacing the fender rope along the gunnel of "Sandy", the Peterson tender for "Annie", our 24 foot double ender. The original line looks to be about 2 inches in diameter, three strand and white. West Marine, Hamilton Marine, and all of the other standard resources have nothing like it. Does anyone have an idea where we can get about 12 feet of this material?

fbauer
09-21-2000, 08:18 AM
We're replacing the fender rope along the gunnel of "Sandy", the Peterson tender for "Annie", our 24 foot double ender. The original line looks to be about 2 inches in diameter, three strand and white. West Marine, Hamilton Marine, and all of the other standard resources have nothing like it. Does anyone have an idea where we can get about 12 feet of this material?

Keith Wilson
09-21-2000, 11:44 AM
Since you're in Marblehead, I'd first try the commercial fishing supply places, the really scruffy old-time ones down on the waterfront in Gloucester.

McMaster-Carr lists manila in 2", but they may not sell less than their standard length of 50 ft - about $2.50/ft. http://www.mcmaster.com/
Search on "Manila rope".

Here is a site that gives a really extensive list of rope manufacturers with the maximum size line they make.: http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manufacturing_members.html

These folks below list nylon in up to 3", Manila in up to 2", and Polyester/polypropylene in up to 2-5/8" I don't know if they'll sell short lengths.

All Line, Inc.
31 W. 310 91st
Naperville, IL 60564 USA
800-843-5733

If that's the "Annie" I think it is, she's a boat I've drooled over for years, at least in pictures. Lovely boat.

[This message has been edited by Keith Wilson (edited 09-21-2000).]

Keith Wilson
09-21-2000, 11:44 AM
Since you're in Marblehead, I'd first try the commercial fishing supply places, the really scruffy old-time ones down on the waterfront in Gloucester.

McMaster-Carr lists manila in 2", but they may not sell less than their standard length of 50 ft - about $2.50/ft. http://www.mcmaster.com/
Search on "Manila rope".

Here is a site that gives a really extensive list of rope manufacturers with the maximum size line they make.: http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manufacturing_members.html

These folks below list nylon in up to 3", Manila in up to 2", and Polyester/polypropylene in up to 2-5/8" I don't know if they'll sell short lengths.

All Line, Inc.
31 W. 310 91st
Naperville, IL 60564 USA
800-843-5733

If that's the "Annie" I think it is, she's a boat I've drooled over for years, at least in pictures. Lovely boat.

[This message has been edited by Keith Wilson (edited 09-21-2000).]

Keith Wilson
09-21-2000, 11:44 AM
Since you're in Marblehead, I'd first try the commercial fishing supply places, the really scruffy old-time ones down on the waterfront in Gloucester.

McMaster-Carr lists manila in 2", but they may not sell less than their standard length of 50 ft - about $2.50/ft. http://www.mcmaster.com/
Search on "Manila rope".

Here is a site that gives a really extensive list of rope manufacturers with the maximum size line they make.: http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manufacturing_members.html

These folks below list nylon in up to 3", Manila in up to 2", and Polyester/polypropylene in up to 2-5/8" I don't know if they'll sell short lengths.

All Line, Inc.
31 W. 310 91st
Naperville, IL 60564 USA
800-843-5733

If that's the "Annie" I think it is, she's a boat I've drooled over for years, at least in pictures. Lovely boat.

[This message has been edited by Keith Wilson (edited 09-21-2000).]

landlocked sailor
09-21-2000, 01:48 PM
Ah yes, the Fenwick Williams masterpiece

landlocked sailor
09-21-2000, 01:48 PM
Ah yes, the Fenwick Williams masterpiece

landlocked sailor
09-21-2000, 01:48 PM
Ah yes, the Fenwick Williams masterpiece

htom
09-21-2000, 01:56 PM
Of course, for twelve feet, you could lay up (twist up? what's the verb I want?) a cable from 1" rope; fifty feet of 1" might come out close to twelve feet, but would not quite be 2" in diameter.

htom
09-21-2000, 01:56 PM
Of course, for twelve feet, you could lay up (twist up? what's the verb I want?) a cable from 1" rope; fifty feet of 1" might come out close to twelve feet, but would not quite be 2" in diameter.

htom
09-21-2000, 01:56 PM
Of course, for twelve feet, you could lay up (twist up? what's the verb I want?) a cable from 1" rope; fifty feet of 1" might come out close to twelve feet, but would not quite be 2" in diameter.

Gary Bergman
10-17-2000, 07:48 PM
Just saw some for sale. www.seajunk.com (http://www.seajunk.com)

Gary Bergman
10-17-2000, 07:48 PM
Just saw some for sale. www.seajunk.com (http://www.seajunk.com)

Gary Bergman
10-17-2000, 07:48 PM
Just saw some for sale. www.seajunk.com (http://www.seajunk.com)

Jim H
01-19-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Keith Wilson:
Since you're in Marblehead, I'd first try the commercial fishing supply places, the really scruffy old-time ones down on the waterfront in Gloucester.

McMaster-Carr lists manila in 2", but they may not sell less than their standard length of 50 ft - about $2.50/ft. http://www.mcmaster.com/
Search on "Manila rope".

Here is a site that gives a really extensive list of rope manufacturers with the maximum size line they make.: http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manu facturing_members.html (http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manufacturing_members.html)

These folks below list nylon in up to 3", Manila in up to 2", and Polyester/polypropylene in up to 2-5/8" I don't know if they'll sell short lengths.

All Line, Inc.
31 W. 310 91st
Naperville, IL 60564 USA
800-843-5733

If that's the "Annie" I think it is, she's a boat I've drooled over for years, at least in pictures. Lovely boat.

[This message has been edited by Keith Wilson (edited 09-21-2000).]The link to ropecord.com has changed to ropecord.com (http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/index3.htm) choose manufacturer members in the drop down list.

[ 01-19-2004, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Jim Hillman ]

Jim H
01-19-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Keith Wilson:
Since you're in Marblehead, I'd first try the commercial fishing supply places, the really scruffy old-time ones down on the waterfront in Gloucester.

McMaster-Carr lists manila in 2", but they may not sell less than their standard length of 50 ft - about $2.50/ft. http://www.mcmaster.com/
Search on "Manila rope".

Here is a site that gives a really extensive list of rope manufacturers with the maximum size line they make.: http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manu facturing_members.html (http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manufacturing_members.html)

These folks below list nylon in up to 3", Manila in up to 2", and Polyester/polypropylene in up to 2-5/8" I don't know if they'll sell short lengths.

All Line, Inc.
31 W. 310 91st
Naperville, IL 60564 USA
800-843-5733

If that's the "Annie" I think it is, she's a boat I've drooled over for years, at least in pictures. Lovely boat.

[This message has been edited by Keith Wilson (edited 09-21-2000).]The link to ropecord.com has changed to ropecord.com (http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/index3.htm) choose manufacturer members in the drop down list.

[ 01-19-2004, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Jim Hillman ]

Jim H
01-19-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Keith Wilson:
Since you're in Marblehead, I'd first try the commercial fishing supply places, the really scruffy old-time ones down on the waterfront in Gloucester.

McMaster-Carr lists manila in 2", but they may not sell less than their standard length of 50 ft - about $2.50/ft. http://www.mcmaster.com/
Search on "Manila rope".

Here is a site that gives a really extensive list of rope manufacturers with the maximum size line they make.: http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manu facturing_members.html (http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/manufacturing_members.html)

These folks below list nylon in up to 3", Manila in up to 2", and Polyester/polypropylene in up to 2-5/8" I don't know if they'll sell short lengths.

All Line, Inc.
31 W. 310 91st
Naperville, IL 60564 USA
800-843-5733

If that's the "Annie" I think it is, she's a boat I've drooled over for years, at least in pictures. Lovely boat.

[This message has been edited by Keith Wilson (edited 09-21-2000).]The link to ropecord.com has changed to ropecord.com (http://www.ropecord.com/cordage/directory/index3.htm) choose manufacturer members in the drop down list.

[ 01-19-2004, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Jim Hillman ]

Paul Scheuer
01-19-2004, 07:46 PM
What went wrong with the original ?

Paul Scheuer
01-19-2004, 07:46 PM
What went wrong with the original ?

Paul Scheuer
01-19-2004, 07:46 PM
What went wrong with the original ?

JimConlin
01-21-2004, 01:15 AM
You might consider that "Sandy" is such an icon that you daren't change anything, but i've slowly become convinced that the "gunwale guard" is the best solution available today. The heavens might not part. If secured with screws and cup washers, it stays on. Cushioning is nice, too. It is now made in a (tasteful) off-white polyester, so it should last for a very long time.

JimConlin
01-21-2004, 01:15 AM
You might consider that "Sandy" is such an icon that you daren't change anything, but i've slowly become convinced that the "gunwale guard" is the best solution available today. The heavens might not part. If secured with screws and cup washers, it stays on. Cushioning is nice, too. It is now made in a (tasteful) off-white polyester, so it should last for a very long time.

JimConlin
01-21-2004, 01:15 AM
You might consider that "Sandy" is such an icon that you daren't change anything, but i've slowly become convinced that the "gunwale guard" is the best solution available today. The heavens might not part. If secured with screws and cup washers, it stays on. Cushioning is nice, too. It is now made in a (tasteful) off-white polyester, so it should last for a very long time.

Paul Scheuer
01-21-2004, 10:03 AM
Beautiful boats there Annie & Sandy, by the way.

My question was not to imply that the original should be preserved at all costs. The thought was that if there is somethng in the way the fender deteriorates, the need for periodic replacement might lead to buying enough material for the next time or two.

Paul Scheuer
01-21-2004, 10:03 AM
Beautiful boats there Annie & Sandy, by the way.

My question was not to imply that the original should be preserved at all costs. The thought was that if there is somethng in the way the fender deteriorates, the need for periodic replacement might lead to buying enough material for the next time or two.

Paul Scheuer
01-21-2004, 10:03 AM
Beautiful boats there Annie & Sandy, by the way.

My question was not to imply that the original should be preserved at all costs. The thought was that if there is somethng in the way the fender deteriorates, the need for periodic replacement might lead to buying enough material for the next time or two.

JimConlin
01-23-2004, 02:13 AM
When the gunwale guard was made of cotton, it'd rot/wear out in about seven seasons. I hope that the polyester stuff will last longer.

JimConlin
01-23-2004, 02:13 AM
When the gunwale guard was made of cotton, it'd rot/wear out in about seven seasons. I hope that the polyester stuff will last longer.

JimConlin
01-23-2004, 02:13 AM
When the gunwale guard was made of cotton, it'd rot/wear out in about seven seasons. I hope that the polyester stuff will last longer.