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skuthorp
01-26-2015, 06:12 PM
Anyone else think that the financial tie ups and unconditional US support for the Saudis is against long term US strategic interests? Certainly the financial links would be very difficult to undo, maybe impossible. Certainly the power of the Saudi lobby in the US is possibly, even probably more powerful than the Israel lobby.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/saudi-arabias-oil-strategy-chill-not-kill-americas-energy-12020
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/world/2015/01/24/us--saudi-bound-by-oil--security-needs.html

Meantime a blind eye is turned to the risible Saudi judicial and justice system that beheads it's own, and other citizen with no accountability, often on the flimsiest of 'evidence', and often depending on the connections of the complainant.

Paul Pless
01-26-2015, 06:43 PM
The tenuous links to 9/11 aside, No I do not see it as against long term US interests. They are one of the most stable regimes going in the middle east and a good platform for whatever interests benefit us. Had G Bush 1 not gone into SA during the 1st gulf war and stopped Iraq , the world would look very different today, and IMO it would not be pretty.Agree with all of this.

However it would be best for us to become truly energy independent, through continued development of existing carbon based energy within the United States, investment in alternative energy and conservation and efficiency solutions, as well as annexation of Canada; then we can tell all the mid east countries to go take a hike. . .

Wouldn't that be great?

skuthorp
01-26-2015, 07:03 PM
I suppose if you annexe Canada you can let Mexico have Texas…………………………...

Jim Mahan
01-26-2015, 07:42 PM
We can talk about the first part of that, but sure, let Mexico have Texas. Let 'em have the whole thing, even the Alamo. They can call it Baja Oklahoma.

PeterSibley
01-26-2015, 07:54 PM
The tenuous links to 9/11 aside, No I do not see it as against long term US interests. They are one of the most stable regimes going in the middle east and a good platform for whatever interests benefit us. Had G Bush 1 not gone into SA during the 1st gulf war and stopped Iraq , the world would look very different today, and IMO it would not be pretty.

You mean that bastion of democracy , Kuwait , would be part of Iraq ? World changing indeed.

The Bigfella
01-26-2015, 08:20 PM
You mean that bastion of democracy , Kuwait , would be part of Iraq ? World changing indeed.

Spent time in the 1930s alongside Neville Chamberlain, did you?

Paul Pless
01-26-2015, 08:32 PM
Nobody really believes then or now that the intent of the Saddam's attacks against, over, and into Saudi territory was to actually make an incursion into Saudi Arabia. It was clearly a taunt; which failed overwhelmingly so tactically. . .

LeeG
01-26-2015, 09:42 PM
Anyone else think that the financial tie ups and unconditional US support for the Saudis is against long term US strategic interests? .

And Israel

LeeG
01-26-2015, 09:43 PM
If you think Sadaam was ready to stop in Kuwait you need to google the battle of Khafji.

That would be too much to expect Saudi Arabia to protect its own borders. Better young soldiers from the U.S. do that.

skuthorp
01-27-2015, 06:16 AM
And Israel
Of course, there's a lot we don't know about that incestuous triangle, but can guess. Strategically for both the US and the Saudi royals the existence of Israel is quite important.