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Shang
01-20-2015, 10:46 PM
So did we.

moTthediesel
01-20-2015, 11:56 PM
Campaigning you mean?
No matter what you think of the President -- that was an epic comeback.

Memphis Mike
01-21-2015, 09:56 AM
Boner and his ilk as usual showed their asses throughout the whole thing and further solidified my dislike for the Republican party. It was a great speech. I only hope Obama can push his agenda through but I find myself among the cynics.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 10:14 AM
I think Sen Ernst took some of the wind out of his sails.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 10:16 AM
The new GOP harlot? Three weeks in office and already kissing up to bonehead and Mitch!

Glen Longino
01-21-2015, 10:18 AM
I think Sen Ernst took some of the wind out of his sails.

I think not.

ccmanuals
01-21-2015, 10:19 AM
I think Sen Ernst took some of the wind out of his sails.

you can't be serious

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 10:20 AM
Sho7uld go9 back 5to Iowa and castrate more pigs. I thought Iowans were smart!

BrianW
01-21-2015, 10:24 AM
It's a good point. He won in 2012.

How many Republican Senators won in 2014?

Should they get their right to enjoy the benefit of winning too?

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 10:26 AM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.

Norman Bernstein
01-21-2015, 10:28 AM
I think Sen Ernst took some of the wind out of his sails.

I would beg to differ.

Leaving politics aside, and ignoring partisanship, I don't understand why the GOP doesn't hire a skilled director to produce the SOTU responses. Joni Ernst looked either like a deer caught in the headlights, or a Stepford wife, smiling ridiculously during the entire speech, whether appropriate or not. Like all GOP SOTU responses, the speech was 90% platitudes, with no counter-proposals or independent proposals.... just a lot of poetry. Her recitation of her modest upbringing was completely out of place.... it had nothing to do with what she was there for: to offer an alternative vision of the President's agenda.

She's just the latest in a long line of really, really BAD SOTU GOP responders. Marco Rubio's response, the last time, was even worse.... ducking out of the frame to take a drink of water. Bobby Jindal's response was more of the same.

Look, the SOTU 'respondents' are already under a disadvantage: it's pretty hard to compete with the image of the President, posed before both houses of Congress, with periodic applause. The GOP starts off with a disadvantage...

.....so why do they fail to do what is required to counter the President's advantage?

If I were the chairman of the RNC, I'd hire a good director, and have him find the appropriate speaker.... and a good speechwriter.... practice the speech.... and produce a competent, compelling video, instead of these Amateur hour productions.

ccmanuals
01-21-2015, 10:30 AM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.

Obama was like 5 years old when the draft was in effect. Try again.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 10:32 AM
Bonehead and Mitch failed to give a script she could read. Just a lot of hot air. I turned her speel off. Just another puppet!

hokiefan
01-21-2015, 10:35 AM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.

Obama is a year younger than I am. There has never been a draft that I was subject to, in fact when I first turned 18 they didn't even have a draft registration. That came when I was 20. You should really try to get your facts straight when you take jabs.

Bobby

ccmanuals
01-21-2015, 10:40 AM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.

Your'e probably thinking about Cheny, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, and to a certain extent Bush who were all actually eligible to be drafted.

Norman Bernstein
01-21-2015, 10:40 AM
http://forum.woodenboat.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by hanleycliffordhttp://forum.woodenboat.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png
(http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?p=4424229#post4424229)Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.

Like my new signature says:


"Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact."

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 10:41 AM
Obama is a year younger than I am. There has never been a draft that I was subject to, in fact when I first turned 18 they didn't even have a draft registration. That came when I was 20. You should really try to get your facts straight when you take jabs.

BobbyDamn! I had 2 draft cards (1A and 1H whatever that meant), there was a draft and then a lottery. I was #73 that year. Bags were packed, no more college deferments. Still have my draft cards!

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 10:44 AM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.Yup, followed orders in the military, still following orders in the Senate.l

Chris Coose
01-21-2015, 10:50 AM
Obama was like 5 years old when the draft was in effect. Try again.
Nosht.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 11:02 AM
Obama was like 5 years old when the draft was in effect. Try again.unless THE PRESIDENT WAS BORN BEFORE 1940, THERE WAS A DRAFT.
Conscription in the United States, commonly known as the draft, has been employed by the federal government on three occasions. The third incarnation of the draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription) came into being in 1940 through the Selective Training and Service Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Training_and_Service_Act_of_1940). It was the country's first peacetime draft.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States#cite_note-1) From 1940 until 1973, during both peacetime and periods of conflict, men were drafted to fill vacancies in the armed forces which could not be filled through voluntary means. The draft was ended when the United States military (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military) moved to an all-volunteer military force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_force). However, the Selective Service System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System) remains in place as a contingency plan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingency_plan); men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed if needed.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States#cite_note-2)

John of Phoenix
01-21-2015, 11:07 AM
Rockin' the Celebration!

The shoes of Joni Ernst prior to the State of the Union, Jan. 20, 2015.
The shoes of Joni Ernst prior to the State of the Union, Jan. 20, 2015
Office of Senator Joni Ernst
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_joni_ernst_shoes_kb_150120_16x9_992.jpg

ccmanuals
01-21-2015, 11:08 AM
unless THE PRESIDENT WAS BORN BEFORE 1940, THERE WAS A DRAFT.
Conscription in the United States, commonly known as the draft, has been employed by the federal government on three occasions. The third incarnation of the draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription) came into being in 1940 through the Selective Training and Service Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Training_and_Service_Act_of_1940). It was the country's first peacetime draft.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States#cite_note-1) From 1940 until 1973, during both peacetime and periods of conflict, men were drafted to fill vacancies in the armed forces which could not be filled through voluntary means. The draft was ended when the United States military (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military) moved to an all-volunteer military force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_force). However, the Selective Service System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System) remains in place as a contingency plan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingency_plan); men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed if needed.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States#cite_note-2)



So Obama born in 1961 that would make him 12 years old when the draft ended.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 11:24 AM
Rockin' the Celebration!

The shoes of Joni Ernst prior to the State of the Union, Jan. 20, 2015.
The shoes of Joni Ernst prior to the State of the Union, Jan. 20, 2015
Office of Senator Joni Ernst
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_joni_ernst_shoes_kb_150120_16x9_992.jpg

What? No plastic bags over those shoes? Can you see a combat soldier wearing these?

David G
01-21-2015, 11:42 AM
I think Sen Ernst took some of the wind out of his sails.

Too transparent again.

If you've devolved into posting nothing but errant nonsense designed to provoke a reaction... I'm gonna add you to my ignore list.

Canoeyawl
01-21-2015, 11:44 AM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.

Obama was 13 when the draft was abolished in the US.

Draft dodgers do indeed make up the bulk of the previous Bush debacle however. Here's the short list...

Glenn Beck
George W. Bush
Dick Cheney
Tom Delay
Larry Elder
Newt Gingrich
Sean Hannity
Christopher Hitchens
Charles Krauthammer
William Kristol
Scooter Libby
Joe Lieberman
Rush Limbaugh
Trent Lott
Ted Nugent
Bill O'Reilly
Dan Quayle
Karl Rove
Paul Wolfowitz

paulf
01-21-2015, 12:11 PM
Regardless of the quips and comebacks, Mr Obama will have his finger firmly in the eye of the GOP for the reminder of his presidency. He moves faster than they do and he chooses his moves carefully.

The GOP will be one frustrated group. It's pay back time!

Unfortunately nothing of substance will get done. There is always hope these adults will meet, determine what can be reasonably accomplished, and work together to earn their pay.

But, I'm a dreamer.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:14 PM
OK, guys; you got me. Obama is not a draft dodging professional politician - he is a military service dodging professional politician. I will follow the Jester's example in self flagellation.:)

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 12:16 PM
OK, guys; you got me. Obama is not a draft dodging professional politician - he is a military service dodging professional politician. I will follow the Jester's example in self flagellation.:)Use a whip this time.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:19 PM
Use a whip this time. I was going to but the post got poofed.:D

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:21 PM
Too transparent again.

If you've devolved into posting nothing but errant nonsense designed to provoke a reaction... I'm gonna add you to my ignore list. Good, because unlike you the devious anti American Lefty, I am transparent.:!

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 12:22 PM
And Anti American!

jclays
01-21-2015, 12:29 PM
rockin' the celebration!

the shoes of joni ernst prior to the state of the union, jan. 20, 2015.
the shoes of joni ernst prior to the state of the union, jan. 20, 2015
office of senator joni ernst
http://a.abcnews.com/images/politics/ht_joni_ernst_shoes_kb_150120_16x9_992.jpg
nice..........

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:29 PM
I think I'll hang around this dive for one more election...heh heh

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:31 PM
Are you lefties doing some kind of foot fetish?:D

jclays
01-21-2015, 12:33 PM
Missed most of the speech. Was resetting the toilet in the master bath. Uggggggg. However caught a small part about Unicorns and Rainbow sparkles for all Americans free of charge. Hmmmmm.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 12:34 PM
Are you lefties doing some kind of foot fetish?:DBoots on the Senate floor I see. She's is making fools of the military.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:36 PM
Missed most of the speech. Was resetting the toilet in the master bath. Uggggggg. However caught a small part about Unicorns and Rainbow sparkles for all Americans free of charge. Hmmmmm. Yeah, that poopy stink does alter perception.

John Smith
01-21-2015, 12:36 PM
I think Sen Ernst took some of the wind out of his sails.

Only for those who saw no wind in his sails. I actually think she proved his points.

Michael D. Storey
01-21-2015, 12:36 PM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.

It is my understanding that the number of electoral collegians that you have is the only qualification that can make you president. Of course, I could be mistaken.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 12:38 PM
She just talked about herself. Did she have a point? Perhaps!

Michael D. Storey
01-21-2015, 12:38 PM
Good, because unlike you the devious anti American Lefty, I am transparent.:!

as in peeps can see right through you?

John Smith
01-21-2015, 12:38 PM
I would beg to differ.

Leaving politics aside, and ignoring partisanship, I don't understand why the GOP doesn't hire a skilled director to produce the SOTU responses. Joni Ernst looked either like a deer caught in the headlights, or a Stepford wife, smiling ridiculously during the entire speech, whether appropriate or not. Like all GOP SOTU responses, the speech was 90% platitudes, with no counter-proposals or independent proposals.... just a lot of poetry. Her recitation of her modest upbringing was completely out of place.... it had nothing to do with what she was there for: to offer an alternative vision of the President's agenda.

She's just the latest in a long line of really, really BAD SOTU GOP responders. Marco Rubio's response, the last time, was even worse.... ducking out of the frame to take a drink of water. Bobby Jindal's response was more of the same.

Look, the SOTU 'respondents' are already under a disadvantage: it's pretty hard to compete with the image of the President, posed before both houses of Congress, with periodic applause. The GOP starts off with a disadvantage...

.....so why do they fail to do what is required to counter the President's advantage?

If I were the chairman of the RNC, I'd hire a good director, and have him find the appropriate speaker.... and a good speechwriter.... practice the speech.... and produce a competent, compelling video, instead of these Amateur hour productions.

By her own words, she chose NOT to do a rebuttal.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:42 PM
as in peeps can see right through you? Yeah, and I suppose the foot fetish pervs as well.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:44 PM
She just talked about herself. Did she have a point? Perhaps! Next time look at her face, and listen.:D

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 12:45 PM
She should have worn military boots. And anything she has IS a foot fetish. Not those who wasted our time listening to her. All I can say is, she's better looking than Mitch.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 12:47 PM
She should have worn military boots. And anything she has IS a foot fetish. Not those who wasted our time listening to her. All I can say is, she's better looking than Mitch. Well, Jamie - that's progress.

John Smith
01-21-2015, 12:48 PM
Regardless of the quips and comebacks, Mr Obama will have his finger firmly in the eye of the GOP for the reminder of his presidency. He moves faster than they do and he chooses his moves carefully.

The GOP will be one frustrated group. It's pay back time!

Unfortunately nothing of substance will get done. There is always hope these adults will meet, determine what can be reasonably accomplished, and work together to earn their pay.

But, I'm a dreamer.
Putting the entire speech in context, I got a very subtle message. This country claims to live by a set of principles and values. It's time to practice what we preach, is it not?

Didn't O'Reilly and Michalson (the golfer) say they'd quit their jobs if their taxes go raised? Didn't their taxes get raised? Did they quit?

Tax rates today are about as low as they've been in my life. In the "good old" economic days the top bracket rate was 90%. Why is it so hard to go back to tax rates that worked well for the nation?

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 12:50 PM
You call it progress?

John Smith
01-21-2015, 12:50 PM
She just talked about herself. Did she have a point? Perhaps!

Actually, if you consider her story, this country gave her opportunities. Now she want to deny others similar opportunities.

John Smith
01-21-2015, 12:52 PM
Next time look at her face, and listen.:D

I'll bite. Did she say something specific that I missed? I heard her talk about doing what most Americans want done, but never got specific. She said most want the ACA repealed and replaced, but that "replacement" remains a mystery. I'm not so sure that most Americans want it repealed. Tweaked a bit perhaps.

What exactly did she say?

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 12:55 PM
Nothing concrete. Again, just prattled on and on and on about herself.

ccmanuals
01-21-2015, 12:57 PM
Her entire campaign was a study in how to avoid the press and their pesky questions and never be specific on anything. Is probably the reason she was chosen for this.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 01:03 PM
She DOES know how to castrate pigs. Hope bonehead and Mitch are in hiding.:)

Glen Longino
01-21-2015, 02:24 PM
Obama started his presidency with arrogance by stating he won.

No surprise he is ending it as well with snarky , arrogant petty remarks.

Let's see, Obama won the presidential election TWICE and he stated that he WON!
So that makes him "snarky, arrogant, and petty"?:D
C'mon, admit you hated Obama even before he was elected or said anything...just because he's Irish!

David G
01-21-2015, 02:32 PM
Let's see, Obama won the presidential election TWICE and he stated that he WON!
So that makes him "snarky, arrogant, and petty"?:D
C'mon, admit you hated Obama even before he was elected or said anything...just because he's Irish!

And, while the small electoral blip represented by the recent midterm elections is celebrated by the R's as being somehow hugely significant... and while it inspires them to echo Obama's line that "elections matter"... they somehow figured that Obama's election - twice - to the post of president DIDN'T matter. And that they were under no onus to cooperate with the Democrats to actually govern. And that it somehow became their mission to obstruct anything that "Irishman" did - no matter if it was something they themselves had created (ACA)... or something that they had supported prior to his election (many examples).

Yeah... Obama was the arrogant one. For sure...

Glen Longino
01-21-2015, 02:38 PM
:):):)

Peter Malcolm Jardine
01-21-2015, 02:44 PM
Barack Obama has stuck to his message, but he probably won't get anywhere. Too bad. I would think that when a republican president is elected, a lot of stuff will get repealed, and the wealthy will continue on.

I can tell you this, with both my parents in hospital at the moment, I am very grateful for socialized healthcare.

Memphis Mike
01-21-2015, 02:46 PM
Barack Obama has stuck to his message, but he probably won't get anywhere. Too bad. I would think that when a republican president is elected, a lot of stuff will get repealed, and the wealthy will continue on.

I can tell you this, with both my parents in hospital at the moment, I am very grateful for socialized healthcare.

Best wishes for your folks, Petey! :)

Osborne Russell
01-21-2015, 02:49 PM
Like my new signature says:

In gross breach of protocol out of intense multi-cultural half-blood hatred of the troops and freedom and America and democracy and the free market he refused to salute when he got off the helicopter.

Arizona Bay
01-21-2015, 03:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkYZFoW5NK8

wudzgud
01-21-2015, 03:11 PM
And, while the small electoral blip represented by the recent midterm elections is celebrated by the R's as being somehow hugely significant...
Well, seeing there were less democrats in the room than there has been in over 50 years, yeh, I'd call that significant....

David G
01-21-2015, 03:19 PM
Well, seeing there were less democrats in the room than there has been in over 50 years, yeh, I'd call that significant....

OK... I'll bite... in what substantive way is it significant? And... keep in mind... I said 'hugely significant'. I don't really like being misrepresented.

Shang
01-21-2015, 03:36 PM
Good, because unlike you the devious anti American Lefty, I am transparent.:!

If someone stood up in a crowd
And raised their voice up way out loud
And waved their arm and shook his leg
You'd notice him

If someone in the movie show
Yelled, "Fire", in the second row
This whole place is a powder keg
You'd notice him

And even without clucking like a hen
Everyone gets noticed, now and then
Unless of course, that personage should be
Invisible, inconsequential me

Cellophane, Mr. Cellophane shoulda been my name
Mr. Cellophane 'cause you can look right through me
Walk right by me and never know I'm there

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 03:50 PM
I hope that is an original composition; it just wouldn't do for a Professor to plagiarize.

Norman Bernstein
01-21-2015, 03:51 PM
Barack Obama has stuck to his message, but he probably won't get anywhere.

I don't think his intention is to 'get anywhere', per se. What we saw was a rather masterful political move, setting up the GOP for a serious conflict in the next election cycle... forcing them to be a great deal more obvious in their unwavering support for the big banks, big money, and the 1%... and destroying GOP credibility on their attempts to represent themselves as the champions of Middle America. Some of his tax relief proposals for median wage earners will be adopted by the Republicans... but they'll be left defending the same old 'trickle down' economics, when it comes to raising revenue from the top end.

The most interesting thing in politics right now is just how the defeat of Democrats in the mid-terms has 'liberated' Obama. He knows that his ability to actually effect change between now and the end of 2016 is severely limited... but he's now blessed with the ability to re-frame the national conversation in ways that will cause problems for the GOP. Indirectly, he'll be helping his own party.... somewhat more indirectly, he'll be using the power of the bully pulpit to destroy the myths and misdirection that has been aimed at him.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
01-21-2015, 04:17 PM
the defeat of Democrats

Maybe it's winter, which affects me badly, but I am not a political optimist these days. In Canada, we have had a conservative government that has been one of the worst in a long time. They have embarrassed us on the world stage, destroyed heritage and environmental education and research systems, and put us into an immense amount of debt. Yet people voted for them, again and again. You have the same issue. I can agree with your point of view on American politics. The things American republicans DO and say, is bordering on bizarre in my opinion..... but the American voter has voted them into power. That is the test.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 04:26 PM
The cycle is shifting now. The Lefty Democrat soak the rich mantra has been voted out. Now comes again the right wing fight for the middle class Republican mantra. But the net result is always the same; the rich get richer and the poor get pregnant.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 04:38 PM
Fight for the middle class! Show me proof of that Hanley. Specifically, how gave they demonstrated that?

Norman Bernstein
01-21-2015, 04:38 PM
Now comes again the right wing fight for the middle class Republican mantra.

When was there EVER a middle class Republican mantra?

Certainly not in MY lifetime... Republicans have always been implicitly contemptuous of the middle class for decades... and not infrequently, explicitly contemptuous.... maybe you forgot about Mitt Romney's '47% of the public who won't take responsibility for themselves'. Maybe you forgot about George Bush's description of his 'base'... the 'haves', and the 'have mores'....

Now Mitt is suddenly trying to portray himself as some sort of working class hero.... all of a sudden, we've got Republicans supposedly now concerned about income inequality.... I don't recall if it was McConnell or Boehner who tried to imply, just a few days ago, that stagnant middle class wages were actually Obama's fault! :)

We'll see just how their sudden 'concern' translates into action. Let me guess: more tax breaks for 'job creators'..... hahahahaha!

Shang
01-21-2015, 04:40 PM
I hope that is an original composition; it just wouldn't do for a Professor to plagiarize.

Don't get out much, do you?


A human being's made of more than air
With all that bulk, you're bound to see him there
Unless that human bein' next to you
Is unimpressive, undistinguished you know who

Cellophane, Mr. Cellophane shoulda been my name
Mr. Cellophane 'cause you can look right through me
Walk right by me and never know I'm there
Hope I didn't take up too much of your time

_____________________________________
CHICAGO, Mr. Cellophane, Lyrics
Songwriters
John Kander;Fred Ebb
Published by
UNICHAPPELL MUSIC, INC.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 04:40 PM
He hasn't forgotten, just conveniently ignored those.

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 04:43 PM
When was there EVER a middle class Republican mantra?

Certainly not in MY lifetime... Republicans have always been implicitly contemptuous of the middle class for decades... and not infrequently, explicitly contemptuous.... maybe you forgot about Mitt Romney's '47% of the public who won't take responsibility for themselves'. Maybe you forgot about George Bush's description of his 'base'... the 'haves', and the 'have mores'....

Now Mitt is suddenly trying to portray himself as some sort of working class hero.... all of a sudden, we've got Republicans supposedly now concerned about income inequality.... I don't recall if it was McConnell or Boehner who tried to imply, just a few days ago, that stagnant middle class wages were actually Obama's fault! :)

We'll see just how their sudden 'concern' translates into action. Let me guess: more tax breaks for 'job creators'..... hahahahaha! Is it time yet for the Nazi card? Oh well, here goes: just keep repeating a lie long enough and people will believe it.

Keith Wilson
01-21-2015, 04:54 PM
Senator Ernst is already more qualified to be President than Obama; she joined the military, served her country and did her duty while Obama and his ilk became draft dodging professional politicians.Excuse me, but who are you and what have you done with Hanleyclifford? Ron? Is that you?

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 04:56 PM
Hanley is busy using Ron's notes.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 04:59 PM
I love March 17th.

TomF
01-21-2015, 05:01 PM
Is it time yet for the Nazi card? Oh well, here goes: just keep repeating a lie long enough and people will believe it.I'll bite. Which Republican in the limelight actually promoted or implemented policies while in office (not just "Joe the Plumber" photo-ops) which had MORE significant positive impacts tilted towards the working class than towards the 1%ers? Not talking about rhetoric about the middle class here, but actions which gave demonstrable results.

Romney maybe, by implementing RomneyCare. :D Not that his party will ever been able to own, let alone capitalize on that. :D

Lotsa talk about Trickle Down Economics ever since Reagan ... but precious little has ever trickled down. Rather the reverse.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 05:03 PM
Tom, he won't respond to you or me simply because he can't. Ya can't get water out of a hunk of granite. Even Henny penny knows that. He's tried!

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 05:03 PM
I'll bite. Which Republican in the limelight actually promoted or implemented policies while in office (not just "Joe the Plumber" photo-ops) which had MORE significant positive impacts tilted towards the working class than towards the 1%ers? Not talking about rhetoric about the middle class here, but actions which gave demonstrable results.

Romney maybe, by implementing RomneyCare. :D Not that his party will ever been able to own, let alone capitalize on that. :D

Lotsa talk about Trickle Down Economics ever since Reagan ... but precious little has ever trickled down. Rather the reverse. You sorta bit all around it: it isn't what they do - it's about what they say.

Glen Longino
01-21-2015, 05:08 PM
.

you are racist..

You are stupid.

You hate woman.

You hate the middle class.

You hate the poor.

You hate.

Prove you do not.

Sorry Norm this BS is just plain BS and does not work anymore.


mining the ad hominum dump is over in logic land.

Those are your words, not Norman's!
Be careful or you'll get banned for being rude to Yourself!

TomF
01-21-2015, 05:09 PM
Oh. So extending health insurance coverage to unprecedented levels in the US and presiding over a sharp drop in unemployment rates don't count as "actions" which have benefitted the middle class?

George Jung
01-21-2015, 05:09 PM
You sorta bit all around it: it isn't what they do - it's about what they say.

Had to preserve this - for the Republicans, it's apparently not about ACTIONS, but only 'what you say', eh? That'd be rich, if it wasn't so pathetic (but telling)

Shang
01-21-2015, 05:18 PM
Is it time yet for the Nazi card? Oh well, here goes: just keep repeating a lie long enough and people will believe it.

Adolf Hitler, 1925. Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. 10
James Murphy, Trans.

(That was a close one! Somebody could have accused you of plagiarizing! Don't even think about Jingle Bells!)

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 05:24 PM
Adolf Hitler, 1925. Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. 10
James Murphy, Trans.

(That was a close one! Somebody could have accused you of plagiarizing! Don't even think about Jingle Bells!) No fair, Professor - I did identify the Nazi source - Hitler was the Prime Nazi, no?

hanleyclifford
01-21-2015, 05:25 PM
Had to preserve this - for the Republicans, it's apparently not about ACTIONS, but only 'what you say', eh? That'd be rich, if it wasn't so pathetic (but telling) Inconveniently it is also true of the Democrats.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 05:27 PM
It does but, not with any consistency. Republicans got the prize for being consistent.

Phillip Allen
01-21-2015, 05:29 PM
Rockin' the Celebration!

The shoes of Joni Ernst prior to the State of the Union, Jan. 20, 2015.
The shoes of Joni Ernst prior to the State of the Union, Jan. 20, 2015
Office of Senator Joni Ernst
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_joni_ernst_shoes_kb_150120_16x9_992.jpg

Where? I don't see any shoes.

Phillip Allen
01-21-2015, 05:30 PM
Too transparent again.

If you've devolved into posting nothing but errant nonsense designed to provoke a reaction... I'm gonna add you to my ignore list.

just saving this quote

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 05:32 PM
Where? I don't see any shoes.She's got plastic bags over them Phillip.

Shang
01-21-2015, 05:52 PM
.
But he preached "civility". Then taunted.

by the way I love the Irish.

“…He’s the man the people choose, loves the Irish and the Jews…”

Of Thee I Sing. 1931. Act I, “Wintergreen for President.” Score by George Gershwin, lyrics by Ira Gershwin, and book by George S. Kaufman and Morrie Ryskind. First musical to win the Pulitzer Prize for Drama.

(Sorry, bobbys, it's just that hanley's reference to plagiarism is making me paranoid.)

Garret
01-21-2015, 06:03 PM
Best comment I heard was about the Rep. response: "When did the Republicans hire Saturday Night Live to do their response?"

@ bobbys: Obama "taunted"? How? I didn't hear it - unless you are complaining about his very quick thinking retort about winning - which was hardly taunting.

Shang
01-21-2015, 06:03 PM
No fair, Professor - I did identify the Nazi source - Hitler was the Prime Nazi, no?

Well...maybe, but there's the name recognition concerning his last name--his parents were Mr. and Mrs. Hitler, he had four siblings who had the name, and even Eva Braun did too--briefly.
But let's let it go for now.

hokiefan
01-21-2015, 06:05 PM
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you are racist..

You are stupid.

You hate woman.

You hate the middle class.

You hate the poor.

You hate.

Prove you do not.

Sorry Norm this BS is just plain BS and does not work anymore.


mining the ad hominum dump is over in logic land.

Rude, hateful, and deserving of a ban.

S.V. Airlie
01-21-2015, 06:05 PM
I think it was pretty good. Of course the Ron's and the Hanley's don't like it which makes his comment even better.

Chris Coose
01-21-2015, 06:26 PM
Rude, hateful, and deserving of a ban.

Norm is none of those things which makes the tirade just a reflection of the typist. Insisting Norm proves something is childish.

I think we'll see him gone before the end of the evening.

woodpile
01-22-2015, 11:17 AM
What? No plastic bags over those shoes? Can you see a combat soldier wearing these?

The kind of attacks you'd expect from lib's, and I thought the war on women was solely owned by the right, yep, we've got some real "men" out there.

S.V. Airlie
01-22-2015, 11:19 AM
She brought up the plastic bags over her shoes herself.

S.V. Airlie
01-22-2015, 11:21 AM
She brought up the plastic bags over her shoes herself.In fact, she was proud of that in her talk about me, me, me, it's all about me ramble.

Garret
01-22-2015, 03:25 PM
The kind of attacks you'd expect from lib's, and I thought the war on women was solely owned by the right, yep, we've got some real "men" out there.

& no one on the right has ever commented on Hilary's wardrobe/hairstyle? You sir are digging....

From Ernst herself (as Jamie said):


So on rainy school days, my mom would slip plastic bread bags over them to keep them dry

S.V. Airlie
01-22-2015, 03:43 PM
Woodpile. Face it, she opened the door