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The Bigfella
09-07-2014, 01:03 AM
What's the go with this pisto/ifle

Sorry, its not the clearest shot... but it was on the wall somewhere I stayed in Laos.

Most muzzle loaders that I saw in daily use have a piece of rubber inner tube that is used as a "safety"... this one appears to have a piece of skin.

How do these things work?

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Fourth/mechanism_zps1c240371.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/igatenby/media/Fourth/mechanism_zps1c240371.jpg.html)

purri
09-07-2014, 02:07 AM
Miquelet or Snaaphaans. BTW it's an ignition system using fire ad gunpowder. Capicsco?

Peerie Maa
09-07-2014, 03:29 AM
Miquelet or Snaaphaans. BTW it's an ignition system using fire ad gunpowder. Capicsco?

I think it is a true flint lock rather than a snaphaans, It looks as though the frizzen is on the pan cover rather than separate.

I don't think that the strip of rawhide is a safety though, I think that it is there to transfer the pull from the spring to the hammer. Unless the spring pushes up against the back of the hammer, in which case I cannot see any purpose to the rawhide.

The Bigfella
09-07-2014, 03:39 AM
Here's a "current use" one... with a rubber strip which wraps around and blocks the hammer

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Beer%20Lao/113-3.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/igatenby/media/Beer%20Lao/113-3.jpg.html)

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Beer%20Lao/112.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/igatenby/media/Beer%20Lao/112.jpg.html)

and another, with a rubber "safety". Different style though

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Beer%20Lao/105-1.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/igatenby/media/Beer%20Lao/105-1.jpg.html)

Phillip Allen
09-07-2014, 05:36 AM
the last pic above has parts I recognize. the breech appears to be a 20mm cartridge cut for the purpose and the hammer and trigger assembly is from an M14?

First pic as a fling lock and the bit of fur may be a frizzen or cock cover (safety)

The Bigfella
09-07-2014, 05:47 AM
Thanks Phillip.

Next time I'm over there, I'll see if I can get some better photos. You still see a lot of these types of weapon. I might see if I can talk someone into giving me a shot

purri
09-07-2014, 06:19 AM
But seeing that the pan is nonexistent I might posit that it is either transitional or a retro modification. Think of jezails and their adaptation to suit.



I think it is a true flint lock rather than a snaphaans, It looks as though the frizzen is on the pan cover rather than separate.

I don't think that the strip of rawhide is a safety though, I think that it is there to transfer the pull from the spring to the hammer. Unless the spring pushes up against the back of the hammer, in which case I cannot see any purpose to the rawhide.