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Nicholas Carey
08-12-2003, 03:54 PM
Apparently, Newell-Rubbermaid (http://www.irwin.com) in the form of Irwin Tool has purchased both Record and Marples, with the expected results. The web sites of both Record (http://www.recordtool.com/) and Marples (http://www.marpleschisel.com/) are now just mere redirects to the Irwin (http://www.irwin.com/) web site...where you'll find nary a mention of either Record or Marples.

Record's entire line of vices have been discontinued. Presumably, they'll start making them again (somewhere in Asia) with lower quality, lower costs and prices the same or higher.

According to a British woodworking mag I read that ran a chisel review, Rubbermaid/Irwin is still marketing the Marples' Blue Chip chisels, but the quality has gone in the toilet. Their line of boxwood handled chisels is gone. Presumably they're now manufactured somewhere else now.

Paramo Tools (http://www.paramotools.co.uk/) has also gone. They manufactured the British-style cabinet-maker's screwdrivers under the Clay name and vices equal in quality to Record's under their own name. Paramo's web site (http://www.paramotools.com/) is dead: I found this note on a British 'engineering news' page:
Paramo Tools, the Sheffield-based tool manufacturer, has gone into administration with the loss of about 50 jobs, and a buyer is being sought. 20-Jan-2003Sheffield-made tools are, if not dead, on life-support.

Best buy'em if you need them whilst you got the chance.

Nicholas Carey
08-12-2003, 03:54 PM
Apparently, Newell-Rubbermaid (http://www.irwin.com) in the form of Irwin Tool has purchased both Record and Marples, with the expected results. The web sites of both Record (http://www.recordtool.com/) and Marples (http://www.marpleschisel.com/) are now just mere redirects to the Irwin (http://www.irwin.com/) web site...where you'll find nary a mention of either Record or Marples.

Record's entire line of vices have been discontinued. Presumably, they'll start making them again (somewhere in Asia) with lower quality, lower costs and prices the same or higher.

According to a British woodworking mag I read that ran a chisel review, Rubbermaid/Irwin is still marketing the Marples' Blue Chip chisels, but the quality has gone in the toilet. Their line of boxwood handled chisels is gone. Presumably they're now manufactured somewhere else now.

Paramo Tools (http://www.paramotools.co.uk/) has also gone. They manufactured the British-style cabinet-maker's screwdrivers under the Clay name and vices equal in quality to Record's under their own name. Paramo's web site (http://www.paramotools.com/) is dead: I found this note on a British 'engineering news' page:
Paramo Tools, the Sheffield-based tool manufacturer, has gone into administration with the loss of about 50 jobs, and a buyer is being sought. 20-Jan-2003Sheffield-made tools are, if not dead, on life-support.

Best buy'em if you need them whilst you got the chance.

Nicholas Carey
08-12-2003, 03:54 PM
Apparently, Newell-Rubbermaid (http://www.irwin.com) in the form of Irwin Tool has purchased both Record and Marples, with the expected results. The web sites of both Record (http://www.recordtool.com/) and Marples (http://www.marpleschisel.com/) are now just mere redirects to the Irwin (http://www.irwin.com/) web site...where you'll find nary a mention of either Record or Marples.

Record's entire line of vices have been discontinued. Presumably, they'll start making them again (somewhere in Asia) with lower quality, lower costs and prices the same or higher.

According to a British woodworking mag I read that ran a chisel review, Rubbermaid/Irwin is still marketing the Marples' Blue Chip chisels, but the quality has gone in the toilet. Their line of boxwood handled chisels is gone. Presumably they're now manufactured somewhere else now.

Paramo Tools (http://www.paramotools.co.uk/) has also gone. They manufactured the British-style cabinet-maker's screwdrivers under the Clay name and vices equal in quality to Record's under their own name. Paramo's web site (http://www.paramotools.com/) is dead: I found this note on a British 'engineering news' page:
Paramo Tools, the Sheffield-based tool manufacturer, has gone into administration with the loss of about 50 jobs, and a buyer is being sought. 20-Jan-2003Sheffield-made tools are, if not dead, on life-support.

Best buy'em if you need them whilst you got the chance.

Ex-Oceangoddess
08-12-2003, 07:13 PM
We too discovered this dreadful fact at the end of April during a vist the kids/buy in CDN dollars trip. We bought a passle of stuff from both Lee Valley and House of Tools, somewhat discounted at the former, and massively so at the latter. We are pleased, and hope these last sets of chisels outlive us.

Rubbermaid making woodworking tools? Oh lordy, what is the world coming to...

Ex-Oceangoddess
08-12-2003, 07:13 PM
We too discovered this dreadful fact at the end of April during a vist the kids/buy in CDN dollars trip. We bought a passle of stuff from both Lee Valley and House of Tools, somewhat discounted at the former, and massively so at the latter. We are pleased, and hope these last sets of chisels outlive us.

Rubbermaid making woodworking tools? Oh lordy, what is the world coming to...

Ex-Oceangoddess
08-12-2003, 07:13 PM
We too discovered this dreadful fact at the end of April during a vist the kids/buy in CDN dollars trip. We bought a passle of stuff from both Lee Valley and House of Tools, somewhat discounted at the former, and massively so at the latter. We are pleased, and hope these last sets of chisels outlive us.

Rubbermaid making woodworking tools? Oh lordy, what is the world coming to...

Bob Smalser
08-12-2003, 09:24 PM
Jet is making woodworker's vises now that make the modern Records look ill.

Bob Smalser
08-12-2003, 09:24 PM
Jet is making woodworker's vises now that make the modern Records look ill.

Bob Smalser
08-12-2003, 09:24 PM
Jet is making woodworker's vises now that make the modern Records look ill.

RGM
08-13-2003, 12:23 AM
I've become accustomed to Nicholas providing positive info regarding tools and materials. I really had to scratch my head over this recent post of his. Bummer. I guess it's time to start buying up quality tools and gear, for those of us that tend to put that off. I however have always considered it an investment, so does my better half. I'm lucky that way. Thanks Nicholas for the input. I think that I'll make a few stops at Hardwick's this week.

RGM
08-13-2003, 12:23 AM
I've become accustomed to Nicholas providing positive info regarding tools and materials. I really had to scratch my head over this recent post of his. Bummer. I guess it's time to start buying up quality tools and gear, for those of us that tend to put that off. I however have always considered it an investment, so does my better half. I'm lucky that way. Thanks Nicholas for the input. I think that I'll make a few stops at Hardwick's this week.

RGM
08-13-2003, 12:23 AM
I've become accustomed to Nicholas providing positive info regarding tools and materials. I really had to scratch my head over this recent post of his. Bummer. I guess it's time to start buying up quality tools and gear, for those of us that tend to put that off. I however have always considered it an investment, so does my better half. I'm lucky that way. Thanks Nicholas for the input. I think that I'll make a few stops at Hardwick's this week.

Bob Smalser
08-13-2003, 10:31 AM
I've had great luck buying and cleaning/tuning older Stanley tools from Ebay - why spend 60-150 bucks on an adj throat block plane from Record or LN when you can get a Stanley 65 from the days when they made the right stuff for 40 bucks or so?

Just picked up a perfect Stanley #3C smoother to convert into a lapstrake plane for 30 bucks.

Bob Smalser
08-13-2003, 10:31 AM
I've had great luck buying and cleaning/tuning older Stanley tools from Ebay - why spend 60-150 bucks on an adj throat block plane from Record or LN when you can get a Stanley 65 from the days when they made the right stuff for 40 bucks or so?

Just picked up a perfect Stanley #3C smoother to convert into a lapstrake plane for 30 bucks.

Bob Smalser
08-13-2003, 10:31 AM
I've had great luck buying and cleaning/tuning older Stanley tools from Ebay - why spend 60-150 bucks on an adj throat block plane from Record or LN when you can get a Stanley 65 from the days when they made the right stuff for 40 bucks or so?

Just picked up a perfect Stanley #3C smoother to convert into a lapstrake plane for 30 bucks.