Shipping/Storage Containers (TEU)

[MarEng]

Anybody have any experience in purchasing used shipping containers? I need a 20' (or so) box to keep my tools and professional library in during a protracted move.

Have tried contacting the regional/national guys via their web sites and get the auto-generated responses but no follow-up. (I am in the Cleveland/Houston, TX area.)

As an alternative, has anybody used the PODs?

Thanks in advance.

[MarEng]

Anybody have any experience in purchasing used shipping containers? I need a 20' (or so) box to keep my tools and professional library in during a protracted move.

Have tried contacting the regional/national guys via their web sites and get the auto-generated responses but no follow-up. (I am in the Cleveland/Houston, TX area.)

As an alternative, has anybody used the PODs?

Thanks in advance.

[MarEng]

Anybody have any experience in purchasing used shipping containers? I need a 20' (or so) box to keep my tools and professional library in during a protracted move.

Have tried contacting the regional/national guys via their web sites and get the auto-generated responses but no follow-up. (I am in the Cleveland/Houston, TX area.)

As an alternative, has anybody used the PODs?

Thanks in advance.

[John Bell]

When we tore down our storage shed to for a new building at my church, we rented one from Home Depot of all places. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it was very reasonable.

[John Bell]

When we tore down our storage shed to for a new building at my church, we rented one from Home Depot of all places. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it was very reasonable.

[John Bell]

When we tore down our storage shed to for a new building at my church, we rented one from Home Depot of all places. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it was very reasonable.

[rbgarr]

Protracted move from one part of town/state to another or one part of the country to another? The PODS are useful for the former, but may be too expensive for the latter. You'd have to check out the cost for interstate delivery and whether there's a franchise where you're moving. http://www.pods.com

The advantage of the PODS, as you know, is that they are delivered to your house, you can load/store/retrieve/access/re-store/unload multiple times (at a cost) if that's the kind of storage access you need.

I don't know anything about shipping containers except that I imagine they'd be expensive to get and awkward to move. Just my opinion.

[rbgarr]

Protracted move from one part of town/state to another or one part of the country to another? The PODS are useful for the former, but may be too expensive for the latter. You'd have to check out the cost for interstate delivery and whether there's a franchise where you're moving. http://www.pods.com

The advantage of the PODS, as you know, is that they are delivered to your house, you can load/store/retrieve/access/re-store/unload multiple times (at a cost) if that's the kind of storage access you need.

I don't know anything about shipping containers except that I imagine they'd be expensive to get and awkward to move. Just my opinion.

[rbgarr]

Protracted move from one part of town/state to another or one part of the country to another? The PODS are useful for the former, but may be too expensive for the latter. You'd have to check out the cost for interstate delivery and whether there's a franchise where you're moving. http://www.pods.com

The advantage of the PODS, as you know, is that they are delivered to your house, you can load/store/retrieve/access/re-store/unload multiple times (at a cost) if that's the kind of storage access you need.

I don't know anything about shipping containers except that I imagine they'd be expensive to get and awkward to move. Just my opinion.

[Donn]

Here ya go. They sell used shipping containers, and have branches in SE TX:

Mobile Storage (http://www.mobilestorage.com/index.html)

[Donn]

Here ya go. They sell used shipping containers, and have branches in SE TX:

Mobile Storage (http://www.mobilestorage.com/index.html)

[Donn]

Here ya go. They sell used shipping containers, and have branches in SE TX:

Mobile Storage (http://www.mobilestorage.com/index.html)

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I know altogether too much about ISO shipping containers! The good news, for you, is that because the USA imports more than it exports, there is always a surplus of boxes in the USA.

They are quite big and quite heavy; if you contemplate moving yours off a chassis try to buy one with fork lift pockets. They are a little less common but available.

Check the roof.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I know altogether too much about ISO shipping containers! The good news, for you, is that because the USA imports more than it exports, there is always a surplus of boxes in the USA.

They are quite big and quite heavy; if you contemplate moving yours off a chassis try to buy one with fork lift pockets. They are a little less common but available.

Check the roof.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I know altogether too much about ISO shipping containers! The good news, for you, is that because the USA imports more than it exports, there is always a surplus of boxes in the USA.

They are quite big and quite heavy; if you contemplate moving yours off a chassis try to buy one with fork lift pockets. They are a little less common but available.

Check the roof.

[Mike Vogdes]

I use to buy sell and rent containers. Good clean containers can be had for about $2,000 in decent shape and as low as $1,000 in fair shape, though usually they will be pretty banged up and the doors will be hard to operate for that kind of money. I still have a few 8'x8' containers in decent shape at $300 each but you live a little to far away.

In 2003 I was renting 20' containers for $85.00 a month, 3 month minimum, $75.00 an hour to delivery and pickup.

If your intrested in renting try Sunbelt rental or United rental, they are both national rental companys and should have 20' containers for about the same as I qouted.

[Mike Vogdes]

I use to buy sell and rent containers. Good clean containers can be had for about $2,000 in decent shape and as low as $1,000 in fair shape, though usually they will be pretty banged up and the doors will be hard to operate for that kind of money. I still have a few 8'x8' containers in decent shape at $300 each but you live a little to far away.

In 2003 I was renting 20' containers for $85.00 a month, 3 month minimum, $75.00 an hour to delivery and pickup.

If your intrested in renting try Sunbelt rental or United rental, they are both national rental companys and should have 20' containers for about the same as I qouted.

[Mike Vogdes]

I use to buy sell and rent containers. Good clean containers can be had for about $2,000 in decent shape and as low as $1,000 in fair shape, though usually they will be pretty banged up and the doors will be hard to operate for that kind of money. I still have a few 8'x8' containers in decent shape at $300 each but you live a little to far away.

In 2003 I was renting 20' containers for $85.00 a month, 3 month minimum, $75.00 an hour to delivery and pickup.

If your intrested in renting try Sunbelt rental or United rental, they are both national rental companys and should have 20' containers for about the same as I qouted.

[Thad Van Gilder]

Mike,
how tall are the 8 by 8 ones? I have been looking at shipping containers, too, for more shop space.

Thad

[Thad Van Gilder]

Mike,
how tall are the 8 by 8 ones? I have been looking at shipping containers, too, for more shop space.

Thad

[Thad Van Gilder]

Mike,
how tall are the 8 by 8 ones? I have been looking at shipping containers, too, for more shop space.

Thad

[alteran]

Who owns the container that a shipper, say in China, uses to send goods here? The shipper? A frefght forwarding company or??

And once the container is here and unloaded what happens to it? Are any shipped back empty or are they sold here to a shipping container trading company who inturn resells it to a US shipper?

Are they cheap enough that a shipper of high value items just considers it disposable like a cardboard box?

[alteran]

Who owns the container that a shipper, say in China, uses to send goods here? The shipper? A frefght forwarding company or??

And once the container is here and unloaded what happens to it? Are any shipped back empty or are they sold here to a shipping container trading company who inturn resells it to a US shipper?

Are they cheap enough that a shipper of high value items just considers it disposable like a cardboard box?

[alteran]

Who owns the container that a shipper, say in China, uses to send goods here? The shipper? A frefght forwarding company or??

And once the container is here and unloaded what happens to it? Are any shipped back empty or are they sold here to a shipping container trading company who inturn resells it to a US shipper?

Are they cheap enough that a shipper of high value items just considers it disposable like a cardboard box?

[Mike Vogdes]

The big shipping companys own and maintain there own fleet. There are some brokers who buy refurbish and resell back to shipping companys. A new 20' ISO container will run about $10,000 and are not considered disposable.

[Mike Vogdes]

The big shipping companys own and maintain there own fleet. There are some brokers who buy refurbish and resell back to shipping companys. A new 20' ISO container will run about $10,000 and are not considered disposable.

[Mike Vogdes]

The big shipping companys own and maintain there own fleet. There are some brokers who buy refurbish and resell back to shipping companys. A new 20' ISO container will run about $10,000 and are not considered disposable.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Quite so. Besides the shipping lines, there are container leasing companies who rent containers to the lines, and to non-vessel owning common carriers either long or short term. The problem the lines face is in getting the empties back to where they are wanted, so they will sometimes end up with a pile of empties and no easy way of moving them - selling some off is a way round this problem!

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Quite so. Besides the shipping lines, there are container leasing companies who rent containers to the lines, and to non-vessel owning common carriers either long or short term. The problem the lines face is in getting the empties back to where they are wanted, so they will sometimes end up with a pile of empties and no easy way of moving them - selling some off is a way round this problem!

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Quite so. Besides the shipping lines, there are container leasing companies who rent containers to the lines, and to non-vessel owning common carriers either long or short term. The problem the lines face is in getting the empties back to where they are wanted, so they will sometimes end up with a pile of empties and no easy way of moving them - selling some off is a way round this problem!

[Billy Bones]

...So why, then, he wonders mostly rhetorically, do we in the Virgin Islands still pay top dollar for containers in fair-to-poor shape, when we import so many of them and export so few? Our export is oil, and a bit of rum, in tankers and containers respectively.

[Billy Bones]

...So why, then, he wonders mostly rhetorically, do we in the Virgin Islands still pay top dollar for containers in fair-to-poor shape, when we import so many of them and export so few? Our export is oil, and a bit of rum, in tankers and containers respectively.

[Billy Bones]

...So why, then, he wonders mostly rhetorically, do we in the Virgin Islands still pay top dollar for containers in fair-to-poor shape, when we import so many of them and export so few? Our export is oil, and a bit of rum, in tankers and containers respectively.

[Ron Williamson]

Does anyone have any guesses what a 20' can might weigh?
R

[Ron Williamson]

Does anyone have any guesses what a 20' can might weigh?
R

[Ron Williamson]

Does anyone have any guesses what a 20' can might weigh?
R

[Donn]

I'll go with 5,000#

[ 02-04-2005, 06:42 AM: Message edited by: Donn ]

[Donn]

I'll go with 5,000#

[ 02-04-2005, 06:42 AM: Message edited by: Donn ]

[Donn]

I'll go with 5,000#

[ 02-04-2005, 06:42 AM: Message edited by: Donn ]

[Billy Bones]

Probably a bit less.

This from the net....


The tare mass of containers may vary due to the different construction techniques and materials used in the container. A 20' x 8.5' dry cargo container may weigh 1,800 kgs. to 2,400 kgs., a 40' x 8.5' may weigh 2,800 kgs. to 4,000 kgs, and a 40' x 9.5' may weigh 3,900 kgs. to 4,200 kgs. Some dry cargo containers may fall outside the indicated weight range. The reefer weighs more than a dry cargo container of the same size.

[Billy Bones]

Probably a bit less.

This from the net....


The tare mass of containers may vary due to the different construction techniques and materials used in the container. A 20' x 8.5' dry cargo container may weigh 1,800 kgs. to 2,400 kgs., a 40' x 8.5' may weigh 2,800 kgs. to 4,000 kgs, and a 40' x 9.5' may weigh 3,900 kgs. to 4,200 kgs. Some dry cargo containers may fall outside the indicated weight range. The reefer weighs more than a dry cargo container of the same size.

[Billy Bones]

Probably a bit less.

This from the net....


The tare mass of containers may vary due to the different construction techniques and materials used in the container. A 20' x 8.5' dry cargo container may weigh 1,800 kgs. to 2,400 kgs., a 40' x 8.5' may weigh 2,800 kgs. to 4,000 kgs, and a 40' x 9.5' may weigh 3,900 kgs. to 4,200 kgs. Some dry cargo containers may fall outside the indicated weight range. The reefer weighs more than a dry cargo container of the same size.

[Concordia..41]

As stated - check the roof! Most have moderate to severe rust and salt water damage.

Another avenue and one we took was a used truck body. I think we got a 9' x 20' for around $750. No rust and nice fiberglass roof that let in good light.

Dave found it just driving the roads and stopping salvage yards. A wrecker service loaded it on one of their flatbed trucks and set it down in the driveway on a pad Dave made from concrete blocks and 2"x8"s.

[Concordia..41]

As stated - check the roof! Most have moderate to severe rust and salt water damage.

Another avenue and one we took was a used truck body. I think we got a 9' x 20' for around $750. No rust and nice fiberglass roof that let in good light.

Dave found it just driving the roads and stopping salvage yards. A wrecker service loaded it on one of their flatbed trucks and set it down in the driveway on a pad Dave made from concrete blocks and 2"x8"s.

[Concordia..41]

As stated - check the roof! Most have moderate to severe rust and salt water damage.

Another avenue and one we took was a used truck body. I think we got a 9' x 20' for around $750. No rust and nice fiberglass roof that let in good light.

Dave found it just driving the roads and stopping salvage yards. A wrecker service loaded it on one of their flatbed trucks and set it down in the driveway on a pad Dave made from concrete blocks and 2"x8"s.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Thanks for saving me looking it up! I would go with the upper end of those numbers for weights, these days, as the lower weights refer to container types that are no longer made. You will find the exact tare weight, in pounds and in kilos, stencilled on the doors of your chosen container.

Containers are intended to be stacked, so all the weight comes on the four lower corner castings. This is a reasonably important point to bear in mind - if you put it on an ordinary driveway and load it up the corners will sink in, the box will distort and you will have fun with the doors after a while.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Thanks for saving me looking it up! I would go with the upper end of those numbers for weights, these days, as the lower weights refer to container types that are no longer made. You will find the exact tare weight, in pounds and in kilos, stencilled on the doors of your chosen container.

Containers are intended to be stacked, so all the weight comes on the four lower corner castings. This is a reasonably important point to bear in mind - if you put it on an ordinary driveway and load it up the corners will sink in, the box will distort and you will have fun with the doors after a while.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Thanks for saving me looking it up! I would go with the upper end of those numbers for weights, these days, as the lower weights refer to container types that are no longer made. You will find the exact tare weight, in pounds and in kilos, stencilled on the doors of your chosen container.

Containers are intended to be stacked, so all the weight comes on the four lower corner castings. This is a reasonably important point to bear in mind - if you put it on an ordinary driveway and load it up the corners will sink in, the box will distort and you will have fun with the doors after a while.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Originally posted by Billy Bones:
...So why, then, he wonders mostly rhetorically, do we in the Virgin Islands still pay top dollar for containers in fair-to-poor shape, when we import so many of them and export so few? Our export is oil, and a bit of rum, in tankers and containers respectively.I think that this is probably due to your relative remoteness. Containers are made in China, and I don't know of a direct service from China to the Virgin Islands, so any boxes used on your run have had to be acquired for it (by purchase or lease) from somewhere else.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Originally posted by Billy Bones:
...So why, then, he wonders mostly rhetorically, do we in the Virgin Islands still pay top dollar for containers in fair-to-poor shape, when we import so many of them and export so few? Our export is oil, and a bit of rum, in tankers and containers respectively.I think that this is probably due to your relative remoteness. Containers are made in China, and I don't know of a direct service from China to the Virgin Islands, so any boxes used on your run have had to be acquired for it (by purchase or lease) from somewhere else.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Originally posted by Billy Bones:
...So why, then, he wonders mostly rhetorically, do we in the Virgin Islands still pay top dollar for containers in fair-to-poor shape, when we import so many of them and export so few? Our export is oil, and a bit of rum, in tankers and containers respectively.I think that this is probably due to your relative remoteness. Containers are made in China, and I don't know of a direct service from China to the Virgin Islands, so any boxes used on your run have had to be acquired for it (by purchase or lease) from somewhere else.

[Paul Scheuer]

So MarEng, why do you need a shipping container? Are you packing for ocean shipment ?

Around here, a lot of gear is stored in barely roadworthy trailers. They seem to be readily available.

[Paul Scheuer]

So MarEng, why do you need a shipping container? Are you packing for ocean shipment ?

Around here, a lot of gear is stored in barely roadworthy trailers. They seem to be readily available.

[Paul Scheuer]

So MarEng, why do you need a shipping container? Are you packing for ocean shipment ?

Around here, a lot of gear is stored in barely roadworthy trailers. They seem to be readily available.

[Mike Vogdes]

Thad, I believe the 8'x8' containers I have are 7'6" high with ar overhead door, they actually colapse down to 2' high for storage but I allways have them set up, they weigh about 1500lbs.

The 20' containers I had weighed anywhere from 5'000 to 7,000 lbs depending on there construction and the amount of sheet metal people used over the years repairing them. Some of the wood floors were sheet metaled over and many of the roofs were beefed up considerably as well.

[Mike Vogdes]

Thad, I believe the 8'x8' containers I have are 7'6" high with ar overhead door, they actually colapse down to 2' high for storage but I allways have them set up, they weigh about 1500lbs.

The 20' containers I had weighed anywhere from 5'000 to 7,000 lbs depending on there construction and the amount of sheet metal people used over the years repairing them. Some of the wood floors were sheet metaled over and many of the roofs were beefed up considerably as well.

[Mike Vogdes]

Thad, I believe the 8'x8' containers I have are 7'6" high with ar overhead door, they actually colapse down to 2' high for storage but I allways have them set up, they weigh about 1500lbs.

The 20' containers I had weighed anywhere from 5'000 to 7,000 lbs depending on there construction and the amount of sheet metal people used over the years repairing them. Some of the wood floors were sheet metaled over and many of the roofs were beefed up considerably as well.

[MarEng]

Thanks for the input. Since posting I have made contact with the Mobile Storage group and will have a 20', guaranteed leak proof container dropped at my place. $1600 to buy. $150 for delivery (tilt back truck). 5600lbs. I think that answers the questions above. They also advertise 10' and 16' units but they are more expensive, as they make them by cutting down 20' units.

The PODS were quoting over $100/month for storage at my place and I'll most likely need the box for 6+ months. I can always sell it when done or use it for secure storage at the shop.

Brgds, Will.

[MarEng]

Thanks for the input. Since posting I have made contact with the Mobile Storage group and will have a 20', guaranteed leak proof container dropped at my place. $1600 to buy. $150 for delivery (tilt back truck). 5600lbs. I think that answers the questions above. They also advertise 10' and 16' units but they are more expensive, as they make them by cutting down 20' units.

The PODS were quoting over $100/month for storage at my place and I'll most likely need the box for 6+ months. I can always sell it when done or use it for secure storage at the shop.

Brgds, Will.

[MarEng]

Thanks for the input. Since posting I have made contact with the Mobile Storage group and will have a 20', guaranteed leak proof container dropped at my place. $1600 to buy. $150 for delivery (tilt back truck). 5600lbs. I think that answers the questions above. They also advertise 10' and 16' units but they are more expensive, as they make them by cutting down 20' units.

The PODS were quoting over $100/month for storage at my place and I'll most likely need the box for 6+ months. I can always sell it when done or use it for secure storage at the shop.

Brgds, Will.

[MarEng]

Though I'd post the outcome from my container buying experience.

Bought a box from the Mobile Storage guys. Waited a week for delivery to give the ground where the box was going time to dry out (it's been raining). Finally scheduled delivery for last Friday, first run - after a week+ without rain. Delivery was delayed as their truck broke down and once fixed the driver got lost (despite a MapQuest map and detailed landmarks from yours truly). (A bit frustrating as I had planned the day to build a loft in the container for lumber storage. I only need 6' of clear headroom for myself.) Container arrived at noon instead of 0900.

When the truck did arrive the driver jumped out and immediately said he couldn't back into the space I had allotted - I took down fence for him to get in. I asked him how much more fence he wanted down and he dropped the I won't fit and proceeded with I'll sink. He'd try if I would just sign a release agreeing to $600-700 for a heavy duty wrecker if he got stuck.

Seems the box weighs 4,800 lbs and his trailer weights 12,000 lbs and rolls on what looked like 15" wheels. We tried several locations but he couldn't get close enough or was sinking to fast or . . . Definately not set up for delivery on anything but pavement.

Finally waived him off and ate the $150 missed delivery fee. Mobile Storage agreed to refund the container price.

Saw another container in much better shape on Wednesday before my delivery. Houston Container - a local outfit. Quoted me $100 cheaper delivered. They also use lighter trailers and 4-wheel drive pick-ups for delivery. (Have one of the ships I used to support on their web page - chemical tanker?) I stuck with Mobile Storage because the paperwork was done - my mistake.

Have given up on the container idea for now and am building a shed of the same size that can be drug onto an equipment trailer to be moved. 2/3 the price if you don't count my time. Oh well - needed yet another project!!

Funny - I had 17 yards of crushed concrete delivered later the same day on a bobtail dump truck. He backed in the same drive, dropped his load, collected a check, waived goodbye and was gone - no muss, no fuss. Makes you wonder.

[MarEng]

Though I'd post the outcome from my container buying experience.

Bought a box from the Mobile Storage guys. Waited a week for delivery to give the ground where the box was going time to dry out (it's been raining). Finally scheduled delivery for last Friday, first run - after a week+ without rain. Delivery was delayed as their truck broke down and once fixed the driver got lost (despite a MapQuest map and detailed landmarks from yours truly). (A bit frustrating as I had planned the day to build a loft in the container for lumber storage. I only need 6' of clear headroom for myself.) Container arrived at noon instead of 0900.

When the truck did arrive the driver jumped out and immediately said he couldn't back into the space I had allotted - I took down fence for him to get in. I asked him how much more fence he wanted down and he dropped the I won't fit and proceeded with I'll sink. He'd try if I would just sign a release agreeing to $600-700 for a heavy duty wrecker if he got stuck.

Seems the box weighs 4,800 lbs and his trailer weights 12,000 lbs and rolls on what looked like 15" wheels. We tried several locations but he couldn't get close enough or was sinking to fast or . . . Definately not set up for delivery on anything but pavement.

Finally waived him off and ate the $150 missed delivery fee. Mobile Storage agreed to refund the container price.

Saw another container in much better shape on Wednesday before my delivery. Houston Container - a local outfit. Quoted me $100 cheaper delivered. They also use lighter trailers and 4-wheel drive pick-ups for delivery. (Have one of the ships I used to support on their web page - chemical tanker?) I stuck with Mobile Storage because the paperwork was done - my mistake.

Have given up on the container idea for now and am building a shed of the same size that can be drug onto an equipment trailer to be moved. 2/3 the price if you don't count my time. Oh well - needed yet another project!!

Funny - I had 17 yards of crushed concrete delivered later the same day on a bobtail dump truck. He backed in the same drive, dropped his load, collected a check, waived goodbye and was gone - no muss, no fuss. Makes you wonder.

[MarEng]

Though I'd post the outcome from my container buying experience.

Bought a box from the Mobile Storage guys. Waited a week for delivery to give the ground where the box was going time to dry out (it's been raining). Finally scheduled delivery for last Friday, first run - after a week+ without rain. Delivery was delayed as their truck broke down and once fixed the driver got lost (despite a MapQuest map and detailed landmarks from yours truly). (A bit frustrating as I had planned the day to build a loft in the container for lumber storage. I only need 6' of clear headroom for myself.) Container arrived at noon instead of 0900.

When the truck did arrive the driver jumped out and immediately said he couldn't back into the space I had allotted - I took down fence for him to get in. I asked him how much more fence he wanted down and he dropped the I won't fit and proceeded with I'll sink. He'd try if I would just sign a release agreeing to $600-700 for a heavy duty wrecker if he got stuck.

Seems the box weighs 4,800 lbs and his trailer weights 12,000 lbs and rolls on what looked like 15" wheels. We tried several locations but he couldn't get close enough or was sinking to fast or . . . Definately not set up for delivery on anything but pavement.

Finally waived him off and ate the $150 missed delivery fee. Mobile Storage agreed to refund the container price.

Saw another container in much better shape on Wednesday before my delivery. Houston Container - a local outfit. Quoted me $100 cheaper delivered. They also use lighter trailers and 4-wheel drive pick-ups for delivery. (Have one of the ships I used to support on their web page - chemical tanker?) I stuck with Mobile Storage because the paperwork was done - my mistake.

Have given up on the container idea for now and am building a shed of the same size that can be drug onto an equipment trailer to be moved. 2/3 the price if you don't count my time. Oh well - needed yet another project!!

Funny - I had 17 yards of crushed concrete delivered later the same day on a bobtail dump truck. He backed in the same drive, dropped his load, collected a check, waived goodbye and was gone - no muss, no fuss. Makes you wonder.

[rbgarr]

I was talking to a guy in a nearby state who has the PODS franchise asking him about the in/outs of the business (the franchise here is open). He said that one of his ongoing problems is finding drivers who can read a map and follow directions. Many applicants for his jobs are close to illiterate.

[rbgarr]

I was talking to a guy in a nearby state who has the PODS franchise asking him about the in/outs of the business (the franchise here is open). He said that one of his ongoing problems is finding drivers who can read a map and follow directions. Many applicants for his jobs are close to illiterate.

[rbgarr]

I was talking to a guy in a nearby state who has the PODS franchise asking him about the in/outs of the business (the franchise here is open). He said that one of his ongoing problems is finding drivers who can read a map and follow directions. Many applicants for his jobs are close to illiterate.