Auxilary power

[Phillip Allen]

I'm not close to finishing the boat (A 16 foot Weekender) but am wondering what sort of propulsion I might use for jobs such as docking or just fishing back in the tight coves on the lake. Off hand I thought just a trolling motor and battery. The sort of things I want available include the required lights plus depth, bilg pump and music source. I don't know what the boat will weigh either.

Any ideas or insights?

[Phillip Allen]

I'm not close to finishing the boat (A 16 foot Weekender) but am wondering what sort of propulsion I might use for jobs such as docking or just fishing back in the tight coves on the lake. Off hand I thought just a trolling motor and battery. The sort of things I want available include the required lights plus depth, bilg pump and music source. I don't know what the boat will weigh either.

Any ideas or insights?

[Phillip Allen]

I'm not close to finishing the boat (A 16 foot Weekender) but am wondering what sort of propulsion I might use for jobs such as docking or just fishing back in the tight coves on the lake. Off hand I thought just a trolling motor and battery. The sort of things I want available include the required lights plus depth, bilg pump and music source. I don't know what the boat will weigh either.

Any ideas or insights?

[ssor]

oars, lantern, gusher pump, harmonica, lead line :D

[ 02-13-2005, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: ssor ]

[ssor]

oars, lantern, gusher pump, harmonica, lead line :D

[ 02-13-2005, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: ssor ]

[ssor]

oars, lantern, gusher pump, harmonica, lead line :D

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[falmouthcutter]

I own a Falmouth Cutter 22 built by Sam L. Morse.
She is a Lyle Hess design, displaces 7400#, has a full keel, outboard rudder, no mechanical auxiliary power and no electricity. I use a 12 foot oar for auxliary power, lanterns, and battery operated portable VHS and GPS. I sail primarily in Chesapeake Bay, although the boat is designed to go anywhere. She is a wonderful sailing vessel and the lack of a mechanical power source is a cause for joy not regret. The internal storage capacity is enormous; I can easily provision for several months of cruising.

[falmouthcutter]

I own a Falmouth Cutter 22 built by Sam L. Morse.
She is a Lyle Hess design, displaces 7400#, has a full keel, outboard rudder, no mechanical auxiliary power and no electricity. I use a 12 foot oar for auxliary power, lanterns, and battery operated portable VHS and GPS. I sail primarily in Chesapeake Bay, although the boat is designed to go anywhere. She is a wonderful sailing vessel and the lack of a mechanical power source is a cause for joy not regret. The internal storage capacity is enormous; I can easily provision for several months of cruising.

[falmouthcutter]

I own a Falmouth Cutter 22 built by Sam L. Morse.
She is a Lyle Hess design, displaces 7400#, has a full keel, outboard rudder, no mechanical auxiliary power and no electricity. I use a 12 foot oar for auxliary power, lanterns, and battery operated portable VHS and GPS. I sail primarily in Chesapeake Bay, although the boat is designed to go anywhere. She is a wonderful sailing vessel and the lack of a mechanical power source is a cause for joy not regret. The internal storage capacity is enormous; I can easily provision for several months of cruising.

[ssor]

Isn't that the design of Serafin by Lyle Hess and built by the Pardeys? They sailed that around the world without an engine or any built in electrics.

[ssor]

Isn't that the design of Serafin by Lyle Hess and built by the Pardeys? They sailed that around the world without an engine or any built in electrics.

[ssor]

Isn't that the design of Serafin by Lyle Hess and built by the Pardeys? They sailed that around the world without an engine or any built in electrics.

[falmouthcutter]

It's close to Seraffyn. Yes, she is a Lyle Hess design. Of course, the hull is fiberglass but much of the rest of the boat is teak. The Falmouth Cutter is slightly smaller than Seraffyn, but is the closest currently produced boat to the Pardey's vessel.

[falmouthcutter]

It's close to Seraffyn. Yes, she is a Lyle Hess design. Of course, the hull is fiberglass but much of the rest of the boat is teak. The Falmouth Cutter is slightly smaller than Seraffyn, but is the closest currently produced boat to the Pardey's vessel.

[falmouthcutter]

It's close to Seraffyn. Yes, she is a Lyle Hess design. Of course, the hull is fiberglass but much of the rest of the boat is teak. The Falmouth Cutter is slightly smaller than Seraffyn, but is the closest currently produced boat to the Pardey's vessel.

[Mike Vogdes]

Weekenders look like a neat project, got any pix?

I commend you types that can go around without any mechanical propulsion. It must be a great sense of acomplishment to be able to sail, row, drift, and get from point A to B and do it without polluting and useing fuel. Its not for me though...

I would opt for a small 4 stroke outboard like a Honda or Yamaha, with an alternator that could keep a house battery and a small fused elecric panel on line for your bilge pump, gps, vhf and tunes.

[Mike Vogdes]

Weekenders look like a neat project, got any pix?

I commend you types that can go around without any mechanical propulsion. It must be a great sense of acomplishment to be able to sail, row, drift, and get from point A to B and do it without polluting and useing fuel. Its not for me though...

I would opt for a small 4 stroke outboard like a Honda or Yamaha, with an alternator that could keep a house battery and a small fused elecric panel on line for your bilge pump, gps, vhf and tunes.

[Mike Vogdes]

Weekenders look like a neat project, got any pix?

I commend you types that can go around without any mechanical propulsion. It must be a great sense of acomplishment to be able to sail, row, drift, and get from point A to B and do it without polluting and useing fuel. Its not for me though...

I would opt for a small 4 stroke outboard like a Honda or Yamaha, with an alternator that could keep a house battery and a small fused elecric panel on line for your bilge pump, gps, vhf and tunes.

[falmouthcutter]

In conjuction with another subject, I reread portions of L. Francis Herreshoff's (LFH) writings. In his book The Complete Cruiser, published in 1956, he had much to say about the
use of auxiliary power on a sailboat. Recognize that LFH's designs are marked by clean, sweeping lines and a simplicity of hull and rig. His approach to sailing overall was simplicity in form and function. I have excerpted below a number of his comments on the subject of auxliary power for his sailboat Rozinante:

(S)ome of the reasons I dislike an engine on a boat of this size (Rozinante had a 27'9" LOA) are: The cost of engine and installation, The cost of fuel and repairs, The drag of the propeller, The weight of the engine, The space required by the engine, tank and exhaust line, The smell and dirt, The compass deviation it causes. But I dislike an engine most because it takes the romance out of sailing. I don't like a motor either running or stopped because the principal reason I go sailing and cruising is to get away from just such things. You see, I look on sailing as sort of a game where I pit my wits against the elements. With me, It is a sort of solitary competition which at times is as absorbing as a yacht race. I try to outwit the wind and time by forecasting thier actions and placing the Rozinante in a position where the winds and tide will favor her.

Perhaps a romantic, but LFH was one of America's great naval architects. His writings still have relevance today and are worth a spot on every sailing enthusiasts bookshelf.

[falmouthcutter]

In conjuction with another subject, I reread portions of L. Francis Herreshoff's (LFH) writings. In his book The Complete Cruiser, published in 1956, he had much to say about the
use of auxiliary power on a sailboat. Recognize that LFH's designs are marked by clean, sweeping lines and a simplicity of hull and rig. His approach to sailing overall was simplicity in form and function. I have excerpted below a number of his comments on the subject of auxliary power for his sailboat Rozinante:

(S)ome of the reasons I dislike an engine on a boat of this size (Rozinante had a 27'9" LOA) are: The cost of engine and installation, The cost of fuel and repairs, The drag of the propeller, The weight of the engine, The space required by the engine, tank and exhaust line, The smell and dirt, The compass deviation it causes. But I dislike an engine most because it takes the romance out of sailing. I don't like a motor either running or stopped because the principal reason I go sailing and cruising is to get away from just such things. You see, I look on sailing as sort of a game where I pit my wits against the elements. With me, It is a sort of solitary competition which at times is as absorbing as a yacht race. I try to outwit the wind and time by forecasting thier actions and placing the Rozinante in a position where the winds and tide will favor her.

Perhaps a romantic, but LFH was one of America's great naval architects. His writings still have relevance today and are worth a spot on every sailing enthusiasts bookshelf.

[falmouthcutter]

In conjuction with another subject, I reread portions of L. Francis Herreshoff's (LFH) writings. In his book The Complete Cruiser, published in 1956, he had much to say about the
use of auxiliary power on a sailboat. Recognize that LFH's designs are marked by clean, sweeping lines and a simplicity of hull and rig. His approach to sailing overall was simplicity in form and function. I have excerpted below a number of his comments on the subject of auxliary power for his sailboat Rozinante:

(S)ome of the reasons I dislike an engine on a boat of this size (Rozinante had a 27'9" LOA) are: The cost of engine and installation, The cost of fuel and repairs, The drag of the propeller, The weight of the engine, The space required by the engine, tank and exhaust line, The smell and dirt, The compass deviation it causes. But I dislike an engine most because it takes the romance out of sailing. I don't like a motor either running or stopped because the principal reason I go sailing and cruising is to get away from just such things. You see, I look on sailing as sort of a game where I pit my wits against the elements. With me, It is a sort of solitary competition which at times is as absorbing as a yacht race. I try to outwit the wind and time by forecasting thier actions and placing the Rozinante in a position where the winds and tide will favor her.

Perhaps a romantic, but LFH was one of America's great naval architects. His writings still have relevance today and are worth a spot on every sailing enthusiasts bookshelf.

[uncas]

Didn't the Pardeys sell Sarafin? Bought another boat? What ever happened to her?

[uncas]

Didn't the Pardeys sell Sarafin? Bought another boat? What ever happened to her?

[uncas]

Didn't the Pardeys sell Sarafin? Bought another boat? What ever happened to her?

[Dayton Eckerson]

They sold Seraffin (sp?) in the early 80's and built a 29 foot Hess-designed Falmouth cutter named Taliesen (sp?)over a 3 year period. That building process extensively documented in their book on carvel boat building. Seraffin is now owned by a guy who sails her out of the lower Chesapeake bay. When the Pardeys sailed the Chesapeake a few years back, both boats came to the Annapolis boat show. It was a real thrill to see them side-by-side.

[Dayton Eckerson]

They sold Seraffin (sp?) in the early 80's and built a 29 foot Hess-designed Falmouth cutter named Taliesen (sp?)over a 3 year period. That building process extensively documented in their book on carvel boat building. Seraffin is now owned by a guy who sails her out of the lower Chesapeake bay. When the Pardeys sailed the Chesapeake a few years back, both boats came to the Annapolis boat show. It was a real thrill to see them side-by-side.

[Dayton Eckerson]

They sold Seraffin (sp?) in the early 80's and built a 29 foot Hess-designed Falmouth cutter named Taliesen (sp?)over a 3 year period. That building process extensively documented in their book on carvel boat building. Seraffin is now owned by a guy who sails her out of the lower Chesapeake bay. When the Pardeys sailed the Chesapeake a few years back, both boats came to the Annapolis boat show. It was a real thrill to see them side-by-side.

[falmouthcutter]

The Pardey's sold Seraffyn over 20 years ago and built another Lyle Hess designed boat, Taleisin. As with Seraffyn, Taleisin has no mechanical auxiliary power. Their cruising acomplishments, both with Seraffyn and Taleisin, are very impressive.

While the Falmouth Cutter is the closest in design and concept to Seraffyn, the Bristol Channel Cutter would be the comparable match to Taleisin. Both the Falmouth Cutter and the Bristol Channel Cutter are Lyle Hess designs and are made on a custom order basis by the Sam L. Morse Company.

[falmouthcutter]

The Pardey's sold Seraffyn over 20 years ago and built another Lyle Hess designed boat, Taleisin. As with Seraffyn, Taleisin has no mechanical auxiliary power. Their cruising acomplishments, both with Seraffyn and Taleisin, are very impressive.

While the Falmouth Cutter is the closest in design and concept to Seraffyn, the Bristol Channel Cutter would be the comparable match to Taleisin. Both the Falmouth Cutter and the Bristol Channel Cutter are Lyle Hess designs and are made on a custom order basis by the Sam L. Morse Company.

[falmouthcutter]

The Pardey's sold Seraffyn over 20 years ago and built another Lyle Hess designed boat, Taleisin. As with Seraffyn, Taleisin has no mechanical auxiliary power. Their cruising acomplishments, both with Seraffyn and Taleisin, are very impressive.

While the Falmouth Cutter is the closest in design and concept to Seraffyn, the Bristol Channel Cutter would be the comparable match to Taleisin. Both the Falmouth Cutter and the Bristol Channel Cutter are Lyle Hess designs and are made on a custom order basis by the Sam L. Morse Company.

[Thad Van Gilder]

If you want to see something in wood similar to Taleisin, My boat, IVY, is a 1923 British working boat, a Falmouth Quay Punt (I Think).
Boats like mine are what Hess's boats were based on. I keep IVY a few miles from Atlantic City, NJ.

-Thad

[Thad Van Gilder]

If you want to see something in wood similar to Taleisin, My boat, IVY, is a 1923 British working boat, a Falmouth Quay Punt (I Think).
Boats like mine are what Hess's boats were based on. I keep IVY a few miles from Atlantic City, NJ.

-Thad

[Thad Van Gilder]

If you want to see something in wood similar to Taleisin, My boat, IVY, is a 1923 British working boat, a Falmouth Quay Punt (I Think).
Boats like mine are what Hess's boats were based on. I keep IVY a few miles from Atlantic City, NJ.

-Thad