Racing Dingy Rig Set Up How To

[Evan Showell]

Have just about finished the rehab of my cold molded mahogany Jet 14 (International 14 Hull with Snipe rig -- 2 person planing dingy). Need some advice on how to set up the rig. I've sailed plenty on day sailers, but this boat has stuff I've never seen before and the class gurus have been somewhat lukewarm in their assistance. Need a good basic book on setting up a simple racing rig. There are also some puzzlers. For example, in place of an aft deck traveler there's a pipe hole on the starboard side of the afterdeck and an in-deck block on the other. Makes no sense to me. Also on the foredeck to port of center and just aft of the bow fitting where forestay attached is an in-deck block. What gives? P.S. Can't speak to the former owner as he has gone to Valhalla and the owner before that is a merchant captain who's in the country about once every three months and has yet to return a call. I'm in Northwestern N.J. Thanks guys.

[Evan Showell]

Have just about finished the rehab of my cold molded mahogany Jet 14 (International 14 Hull with Snipe rig -- 2 person planing dingy). Need some advice on how to set up the rig. I've sailed plenty on day sailers, but this boat has stuff I've never seen before and the class gurus have been somewhat lukewarm in their assistance. Need a good basic book on setting up a simple racing rig. There are also some puzzlers. For example, in place of an aft deck traveler there's a pipe hole on the starboard side of the afterdeck and an in-deck block on the other. Makes no sense to me. Also on the foredeck to port of center and just aft of the bow fitting where forestay attached is an in-deck block. What gives? P.S. Can't speak to the former owner as he has gone to Valhalla and the owner before that is a merchant captain who's in the country about once every three months and has yet to return a call. I'm in Northwestern N.J. Thanks guys.

[Evan Showell]

Have just about finished the rehab of my cold molded mahogany Jet 14 (International 14 Hull with Snipe rig -- 2 person planing dingy). Need some advice on how to set up the rig. I've sailed plenty on day sailers, but this boat has stuff I've never seen before and the class gurus have been somewhat lukewarm in their assistance. Need a good basic book on setting up a simple racing rig. There are also some puzzlers. For example, in place of an aft deck traveler there's a pipe hole on the starboard side of the afterdeck and an in-deck block on the other. Makes no sense to me. Also on the foredeck to port of center and just aft of the bow fitting where forestay attached is an in-deck block. What gives? P.S. Can't speak to the former owner as he has gone to Valhalla and the owner before that is a merchant captain who's in the country about once every three months and has yet to return a call. I'm in Northwestern N.J. Thanks guys.

[Zane Lewis]

Well I'm dont know that class but have spent some time in high performance dingys I am picking that down aft you have a rope traveler. A knot tied at one end at the back of the tube and the other end goes through the block and up to a cleat. Basically simalar to a Laser.

The block on the foredeck is for forstay tension adjustment. A multi tackel on the forstay or under the deck and back to a cleat in the cockpit. (This is varied with wind and depending uppon weither you are tacking of running)

The best way would be if you could wander down to your local club before a race and have a look at a few. Most owners groups would fall over themselves to get a new person sailing THEIR class. I know sometimes they can be a little stand-off-ish to complete novises but once you have done a season and shown you can sail the boat most of them will start giving you tips.

[Zane Lewis]

Well I'm dont know that class but have spent some time in high performance dingys I am picking that down aft you have a rope traveler. A knot tied at one end at the back of the tube and the other end goes through the block and up to a cleat. Basically simalar to a Laser.

The block on the foredeck is for forstay tension adjustment. A multi tackel on the forstay or under the deck and back to a cleat in the cockpit. (This is varied with wind and depending uppon weither you are tacking of running)

The best way would be if you could wander down to your local club before a race and have a look at a few. Most owners groups would fall over themselves to get a new person sailing THEIR class. I know sometimes they can be a little stand-off-ish to complete novises but once you have done a season and shown you can sail the boat most of them will start giving you tips.

[Zane Lewis]

Well I'm dont know that class but have spent some time in high performance dingys I am picking that down aft you have a rope traveler. A knot tied at one end at the back of the tube and the other end goes through the block and up to a cleat. Basically simalar to a Laser.

The block on the foredeck is for forstay tension adjustment. A multi tackel on the forstay or under the deck and back to a cleat in the cockpit. (This is varied with wind and depending uppon weither you are tacking of running)

The best way would be if you could wander down to your local club before a race and have a look at a few. Most owners groups would fall over themselves to get a new person sailing THEIR class. I know sometimes they can be a little stand-off-ish to complete novises but once you have done a season and shown you can sail the boat most of them will start giving you tips.

[Wayne Jeffers]

Originally posted by Evan Showell:
. . . Need a good basic book on setting up a simple racing rig. . . . I'll echo that thought.

Is there a good book on the basics of rigging a sailing dinghy?

I've not seen the book, but I assume that "The Complete Riggers' Apprentice" by Brion Toss mainly addresses rigging for large offshore sailboats. At least his web site is pretty much devoted to the larger boats.

Any suggestions?

Evan, I've been following your progress with interest. I really like what I've seen of the Jet 14 (Uffa Fox I-14 hull) design, although their web site is spotty on information. How about posting some photos soon? (Hint! ;) )

I've found that I can learn a good bit from reading rigging hints, etc. on different one-design web sites.

Wayne

[ 07-02-2002, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: Wayne Jeffers ]

[Wayne Jeffers]

Originally posted by Evan Showell:
. . . Need a good basic book on setting up a simple racing rig. . . . I'll echo that thought.

Is there a good book on the basics of rigging a sailing dinghy?

I've not seen the book, but I assume that "The Complete Riggers' Apprentice" by Brion Toss mainly addresses rigging for large offshore sailboats. At least his web site is pretty much devoted to the larger boats.

Any suggestions?

Evan, I've been following your progress with interest. I really like what I've seen of the Jet 14 (Uffa Fox I-14 hull) design, although their web site is spotty on information. How about posting some photos soon? (Hint! ;) )

I've found that I can learn a good bit from reading rigging hints, etc. on different one-design web sites.

Wayne

[ 07-02-2002, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: Wayne Jeffers ]

[Wayne Jeffers]

Originally posted by Evan Showell:
. . . Need a good basic book on setting up a simple racing rig. . . . I'll echo that thought.

Is there a good book on the basics of rigging a sailing dinghy?

I've not seen the book, but I assume that "The Complete Riggers' Apprentice" by Brion Toss mainly addresses rigging for large offshore sailboats. At least his web site is pretty much devoted to the larger boats.

Any suggestions?

Evan, I've been following your progress with interest. I really like what I've seen of the Jet 14 (Uffa Fox I-14 hull) design, although their web site is spotty on information. How about posting some photos soon? (Hint! ;) )

I've found that I can learn a good bit from reading rigging hints, etc. on different one-design web sites.

Wayne

[ 07-02-2002, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: Wayne Jeffers ]

[rodcross]

If it is a Snipe rig, I'd start with the Snipe Class rules and specifications. It has been a while since I sailed a Snipe, but I'd guess they have a pretty comprehensive web site. Unless there is a Jet 14 source, of course.

Snipes allow the use of a cunningham on the main and I'd venture a guess that the fitting aft of the forestay is a jib luff tensioner, not a stay tensioner. Cunninghams and sail tweaking devices are nifty when you are racing, but they add to the complexity of your experience on the water and won't do you any good until the difference between winning and losing is a matter of inches. When you reach that level of competition, you'll know what the attachments are for and you'll know how to rig them. I'd go sailing with my crew, first and get them comfortable before asking them to start fiddling with the little adjustments.

Zane is right about the aft deck fittings being for the installation and adjustment of the boom traveler.

[rodcross]

If it is a Snipe rig, I'd start with the Snipe Class rules and specifications. It has been a while since I sailed a Snipe, but I'd guess they have a pretty comprehensive web site. Unless there is a Jet 14 source, of course.

Snipes allow the use of a cunningham on the main and I'd venture a guess that the fitting aft of the forestay is a jib luff tensioner, not a stay tensioner. Cunninghams and sail tweaking devices are nifty when you are racing, but they add to the complexity of your experience on the water and won't do you any good until the difference between winning and losing is a matter of inches. When you reach that level of competition, you'll know what the attachments are for and you'll know how to rig them. I'd go sailing with my crew, first and get them comfortable before asking them to start fiddling with the little adjustments.

Zane is right about the aft deck fittings being for the installation and adjustment of the boom traveler.

[rodcross]

If it is a Snipe rig, I'd start with the Snipe Class rules and specifications. It has been a while since I sailed a Snipe, but I'd guess they have a pretty comprehensive web site. Unless there is a Jet 14 source, of course.

Snipes allow the use of a cunningham on the main and I'd venture a guess that the fitting aft of the forestay is a jib luff tensioner, not a stay tensioner. Cunninghams and sail tweaking devices are nifty when you are racing, but they add to the complexity of your experience on the water and won't do you any good until the difference between winning and losing is a matter of inches. When you reach that level of competition, you'll know what the attachments are for and you'll know how to rig them. I'd go sailing with my crew, first and get them comfortable before asking them to start fiddling with the little adjustments.

Zane is right about the aft deck fittings being for the installation and adjustment of the boom traveler.

[Wild Wassa]

Evan, I hope things are working out with the rig. Further to Rod's advice, I learnt this technique, out of desperation. Select three or four of your class sites, go to boats for sail, email the sailors selling boats, with your questions. Ask them to send photos.

The next part is optional. Send the emails under your wife's name. I call this my 'Foolproof English Technique'. I hope this helps.

Warren.

ps, "It is lovely to hear from you so far away," also, resist sending more than, just a simple reply, Sir.

[ 07-02-2002, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

[Wild Wassa]

Evan, I hope things are working out with the rig. Further to Rod's advice, I learnt this technique, out of desperation. Select three or four of your class sites, go to boats for sail, email the sailors selling boats, with your questions. Ask them to send photos.

The next part is optional. Send the emails under your wife's name. I call this my 'Foolproof English Technique'. I hope this helps.

Warren.

ps, "It is lovely to hear from you so far away," also, resist sending more than, just a simple reply, Sir.

[ 07-02-2002, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

[Wild Wassa]

Evan, I hope things are working out with the rig. Further to Rod's advice, I learnt this technique, out of desperation. Select three or four of your class sites, go to boats for sail, email the sailors selling boats, with your questions. Ask them to send photos.

The next part is optional. Send the emails under your wife's name. I call this my 'Foolproof English Technique'. I hope this helps.

Warren.

ps, "It is lovely to hear from you so far away," also, resist sending more than, just a simple reply, Sir.

[ 07-02-2002, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]