Why must the US always be threatening war?

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  • George.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 17961

    Why must the US always be threatening war?

    Have they no sense of history?

    If China tries to re-take Taiwan, the US threatens war.

    If China tries to take any of the barren rocks they claim, the US threatens war.

    If Russia sends troops to Ukraine, the US threatens war.

    If Assad uses chemical weapons on civilians (you know, like Napalm), the US threatens war.

    Notice that all these places are on the far side of the world from America, and none of them are strategically important.

    Keep looking for it and eventually you will find it. A big part of the reason Germany got the blame for WWI (other than losing) was that before it started, the Kaiser used to constantly... threaten war.
  • Paul Pless
    pinko commie tree hugger
    • Oct 2003
    • 124858

    #2
    Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

    the mic is too important a part of our economy
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    • George.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 17961

      #3
      Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

      Well, you could have live-fire exercises, red on blue. That will spend the billions without causing WWIII.

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      • bobbys
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 30716

        #4
        Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

        Originally posted by George.
        Have they no sense of history?

        If China tries to re-take Taiwan, the US threatens war.

        If China tries to take any of the barren rocks they claim, the US threatens war.

        If Russia sends troops to Ukraine, the US threatens war.

        If Assad uses chemical weapons on civilians (you know, like Napalm), the US threatens war.

        Notice that all these places are on the far side of the world from America, and none of them are strategically important.

        Keep looking for it and eventually you will find it. A big part of the reason Germany got the blame for WWI (other than losing) was that before it started, the Kaiser used to constantly... threaten war.
        .

        Are you implying our novel pizza prize winner is a war monger like bush?.

        The heck you say!

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        • George.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 17961

          #5
          Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

          He is certainly a war-threatener. But tell me one Prez you've had other than Carter that wasn't.

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          • Hugh Conway
            Banned
            • Jan 2012
            • 9162

            #6
            Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

            Retake Taiwan? It was never Communist Chinas! Those rocks? They are legitimate claims of other nations.

            I guess this is just sucking up to the new power that is because you don't think it's as bad as the old one?

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            • slug
              Banned
              • Dec 2012
              • 8131

              #7
              Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

              America has a massive pile of war toys in its trolley.

              Might as well use them or they will just get all rusty and go out of fashion.

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              • Reynard38
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 12533

                #8
                Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                George Carlin said it best, " We like war, we are a war-like people".
                Fight Entropy, build a wooden boat!

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                • Tom Montgomery
                  Lurking since 1997
                  • Sep 1999
                  • 35633

                  #9
                  Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                  Originally posted by Reynard38
                  George Carlin said it best, " We like war, we are a war-like people".
                  Carlin was correct.

                  And the U.S. (it's citizens & it's leaders) does not learn from history.
                  Last edited by Tom Montgomery; 02-24-2014, 11:16 AM.
                  "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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                  • Hugh Conway
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 9162

                    #10
                    Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                    Originally posted by George.
                    I don't recall the US going to war with Argentina over invading the Falklands
                    Las Islas Malvinas my anglophone friend. And the US passed intelligence, and were willing to loan warships if things went south for Britain. What should we have done for the conflict Borges aptly described as "two bald men fighting over a comb"


                    If your pragmatism is throwing everyone else under the bus, that's a sorry brand of pragmatism. The residents of Taiwan I know (both Taiwanese and Chinese) don't want to be a part of the PRC. The various china fights over resources (not rocks) matter much to the relative nations.

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                    • Hugh Conway
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 9162

                      #11
                      Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                      Florida realtors are big friends of the Argentine regime.

                      We've sent the fleet many places.

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                      • Gerarddm
                        #RESIST
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 32495

                        #12
                        Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                        Your hyperbole is just that, George.

                        "Threatening war" is something North Korea does.

                        Upholding a defensive treaty commitment is a different species; it is inherently reactive, not proactive.

                        At any rate, we have not made any military threats regarding Ukraine, and I am hard pressed to see how we have made any threats there at all.

                        The only circumstance you cite that has possible legitimacy is Syria.

                        Not withstanding the fact that I think your line of thinking here is off base, I think it is true that having a large and robust military lends itself to abuse. Military historian John Keegan said that the Romans had an almost pathological habit of sending the legions out almost every year to kill somebody, and they too had a large and robust military. SecDef Chuck Hagel's proposal to rein in the military is a good start.
                        Gerard>
                        Albuquerque, NM

                        Next election, vote against EVERY Republican, for EVERY office, at EVERY level. Be patriotic, save the country.

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                        • bobbys
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 30716

                          #13
                          Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                          Programming note.

                          I did NOT bring up the falklands.

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                          • Gerarddm
                            #RESIST
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 32495

                            #14
                            Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                            Not at all, and your inability to see the difference is at the basis of your error.
                            Gerard>
                            Albuquerque, NM

                            Next election, vote against EVERY Republican, for EVERY office, at EVERY level. Be patriotic, save the country.

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                            • Lew Barrett
                              Landlocked
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 30034

                              #15
                              Re: Why must the US always be threatening war?

                              Originally posted by George.
                              Talk about a double standard...
                              Does he not have a point about Ukraine? The talk here has mostly been how we have little sway and no options in respect to the outcome. I don't know if recent events will affect that, but so far they haven't. I'd be quite surprised to see us act there in other than a talk and point fashion. If that's threatening war, so be it, but there's been no mention of sending in the boys and rather the opposite is the tone here now.

                              Other examples are better suited to your proposition unless you know something we don't.
                              One of the most enduring qualities of an old wooden boat is the smell it imparts to your clothing.

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