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Paul Pless
01-23-2014, 07:49 PM
Paul... I spent the last two days in hospital...

You alright Phillip? Are you home now?

We may disagree (vehemently even) on many things political, but you're a part of this community and many of us including myself care about your welfare.

Phillip Allen
01-23-2014, 07:55 PM
collapsed lungs (just a little bit)

the surgery (two weeks ago) from the de-fib/pacemaker may have been the beginning of it

I'm home stoking the fires... 2 degrees tonight

hokiefan
01-23-2014, 07:56 PM
So are you feeling better? I hope so. Take care of yourself.

Bobby

Phillip Allen
01-23-2014, 07:58 PM
So are you feeling better? I hope so. Take care of yourself.

Bobby

somewhat better... a ways yet to go I think

Gerarddm
01-23-2014, 07:58 PM
Quell drag. Hopefully it all clears up in a timely manner.

Paul Pless
01-23-2014, 07:59 PM
wow, hospitals and doctors are frikking scary. . .
take care and take it easy, hope you heal well and quickly

Hwyl
01-23-2014, 07:59 PM
Look after yourself mister.

Phillip Allen
01-23-2014, 07:59 PM
lung problems is brand new to me... I would never have thunk it

SMARTINSEN
01-23-2014, 08:00 PM
Well there is plenty of hot air around here to get your lungs puffed back up. I hope that you are feeling better already.

Ian McColgin
01-23-2014, 08:10 PM
I'd offer you some of my hot air but it's too liberal for you. So . . .

. . . Get well.

johnw
01-23-2014, 08:13 PM
Sorry to hear about this, Phillip. Take care of yourself.

Tom Montgomery
01-23-2014, 08:22 PM
^ Ditto.

Donn
01-23-2014, 08:29 PM
Collapsed lung...ugh. I went through it once, and it wasn't anything I'd recommend.

Take care...blow into the little plastic gizmo, more than they tell you to.

seanz
01-23-2014, 08:33 PM
Keep on kickin', Phillip.

Garret
01-23-2014, 08:35 PM
Hey Phillip - get better!

Sorry to hear you're going through this.

Phillip Allen
01-23-2014, 08:36 PM
well, I"ll make it I guess... lookin forward to spring and getting out more

LeeG
01-23-2014, 08:48 PM
Pacemaker...a new one?

PeterSibley
01-23-2014, 09:01 PM
Get well Phillip, Spring will come .

Keith Wilson
01-23-2014, 09:15 PM
Oy! No fun at all. Stay warm and get better soon.

Glen Longino
01-23-2014, 09:18 PM
Best wishes for a quick recovery!

Robbie 2
01-23-2014, 11:32 PM
Get well Phillip. The WBF family need your brand of input.

Canoeyawl
01-23-2014, 11:37 PM
Wishing you the best...

htom
01-24-2014, 12:34 AM
Get better soon, Phillip!

Paul Girouard
01-24-2014, 12:37 AM
Bummer , hang in there ya ole Snipe, he need some to stoke the boiler here!

Waddie
01-24-2014, 02:42 AM
Hope you get better soon. No choppin' wood for a while, OK....

regards,
Waddie

Stiletto
01-24-2014, 04:23 AM
All the best for your recovery Phillip.

Hwyl
01-24-2014, 11:54 AM
Has anyone checked in with him this morning?

Bobby of Tulsa
01-24-2014, 11:56 AM
Has anyone checked in with him this morning? I sent him a pm, he didn't answer yet.

Spin_Drift
01-24-2014, 02:01 PM
Wishing you all the very best, dear Phillip. Get well soon.

.

Thank you Paul for posting this thread.
.

Chip-skiff
01-24-2014, 02:07 PM
Sorry to hear you've been ill, and hope you mend quickly.

Flying Orca
01-24-2014, 02:10 PM
Sorry to hear you haven't been well, hope you're feeling better ASAP!

Bobby of Tulsa
01-24-2014, 02:26 PM
I just talked to Phillip, he said he is doin ok. Sounded a little tired to me.

Hwyl
01-24-2014, 02:31 PM
Thanks Bobby, I was going to call you and get his number. You've done the work though.

TomF
01-24-2014, 02:48 PM
Oy! No fun at all. Stay warm and get better soon.My thoughts too, Phillip.

Garret
01-24-2014, 04:29 PM
I just talked to Phillip, he said he is doin ok. Sounded a little tired to me.

Thank you

Bob Adams
01-24-2014, 04:57 PM
Damn man, that's no fun. Do what the sawbones tell ya!

S.V. Airlie
01-24-2014, 05:05 PM
Get well soon. The bilge needs you around to pick on. With humor of course!:)

Phillip Allen
01-24-2014, 05:10 PM
Pacemaker...a new one?

it's actually a combo de fib/pacemaker... my very first surgery

McMike
01-24-2014, 06:50 PM
Hi Phillip, I'm thinkin of you and hope you make a great recovery. Make sure you lean on those who offer and then, when you're well, give back in kind. Take care of yourself.

LeeG
01-24-2014, 07:23 PM
it's actually a combo de fib/pacemaker... my very first surgery

Whew, wishing you little victories everyday.

Shang
01-24-2014, 07:28 PM
Yo! Phillip!
Com'on, we need you to argue with.
Hang in there, and do what they tell you.
(And for pete'sake, don't shoot anybody!)

AnalogKid
01-24-2014, 10:17 PM
I hope you're back on your feet soon Philip. Scary business this cardiology stuff, eh?

BrianW
01-25-2014, 04:35 AM
I must apologize Phillip. I haven't been spending much time here, and missed your absence.

Get well soon friend!

Phillip Allen
01-25-2014, 07:01 AM
you've heard it before... gettin old ain't for sissies

had a good sleep and am up and determined to have some energy today...

maybe I'll ask about that 'transparency in government' thing is working out... anyone see the GITMO article this morning... how about the transparency as a reason to vote for the guy... any appologies? (not that I wanted the other guy in either... what pitiful choices)

Curtism
01-25-2014, 07:07 AM
It looks like the lesser of two weevils is going to be our choice (huh, some choice) for the foreseeable future.

Good to hear you got some rest, Phillip, and I hope your health continues to improve. Hang in there.

Bernadette
01-25-2014, 08:31 AM
how the heck did you end up with a pneumothorax phillip?
this is a serious complication especially given pacemaker(defib) insertion is usually considered run of the mill type of surgical procedure.

Phillip Allen
01-25-2014, 08:48 AM
how the heck did you end up with a pneumothorax phillip?
this is a serious complication especially given pacemaker(defib) insertion is usually considered run of the mill type of surgical procedure.

I suspect that if I had been warned, I might have made good use of the information... "don't get into the habit of shallow breathing" just to avoid a little pain

the doc gave the condition a name which I couldn't begin to remember... started with an 'a' I think... make that an 'A'...

S.V. Airlie
01-25-2014, 08:55 AM
It's having to keep your left arm below horizontal for 8 weeks. Can't drive, can't lift, can't scratch me armpits, only sponge baths. I was lucky though...no pain. and I do agree with Bernatte...How? It was for me a tiny incission and did not effect a lung. There's got to be another cause.

Duncan Gibbs
01-25-2014, 09:02 AM
Get well soon Mr Allen and do ensure you're back annoying the crap out of us all ASAP! :)

Phillip Allen
01-25-2014, 09:10 AM
It's having to keep your left arm below horizontal for 8 weeks. Can't drive, can't lift, can't scratch me armpits, only sponge baths. I was lucky though...no pain. and I do agree with Bernatte...How? It was for me a tiny incission and did not effect a lung. There's got to be another cause.

there may be another cause... but I don't know what it is... this is where the ‘physician's art’ comes into play.

Bernadette
01-26-2014, 06:29 AM
limiting mobility post pacemaker insertion is to prevent wire dislodgement. not to prevent a pneumothorax. seems to me there was surgical error. careless surgical error. after all we are talking about a pacemaker being inserted "just under the skin". going into the thoracic cavity is a whole different ball game.

Phillip Allen
01-26-2014, 11:05 AM
limiting mobility post pacemaker insertion is to prevent wire dislodgement. not to prevent a pneumothorax. seems to me there was surgical error. careless surgical error. after all we are talking about a pacemaker being inserted "just under the skin". going into the thoracic cavity is a whole different ball game.

I think you have misunderstood... this pneumothorax was never mentioned... I would have remembered that

Hwyl
01-26-2014, 11:49 AM
I think you have misunderstood... this pneumothorax was never mentioned... I would have remembered that

Everyone gives you a hard time for not researching stuff Phillip, now it's my turn: Pneumothorax is just a medical fancy term for "collapsed lung". I listen to everything Bernie says, but I especially listen to her medical advice.

I read what she is saying as: There is something seriously wrong with the events here, get a second opinion you great lumox.

Full Tilt
01-26-2014, 11:56 AM
Get a second 'm' you lesser lummox. :d


Phillip, hope you are feeling better soon, I don't know how much longer I can keep them distracted.

Mike

Phillip Allen
01-26-2014, 05:36 PM
Everyone gives you a hard time for not researching stuff Phillip, now it's my turn: Pneumothorax is just a medical fancy term for "collapsed lung". I listen to everything Bernie says, but I especially listen to her medical advice.

I read what she is saying as: There is something seriously wrong with the events here, get a second opinion you great lumox.

I told those I thought could read that what the doc called it started with an 'a'...

S.V. Airlie
01-26-2014, 05:41 PM
My pacemaker is barely under the skin. Bernadette was right about how it operates. Pretty far from a lung unless someone did something really stupid.

Phillip Allen
01-26-2014, 05:44 PM
My pacemaker is barely under the skin. Bernadette was right about how it operates. Pretty far from a lung unless someone did something really stupid.

yes?

Hwyl
01-26-2014, 05:57 PM
I told those I thought could read that what the doc called it started with an 'a'...

Pneumothorax starts with a silent "P".

Full Tilt
01-26-2014, 06:17 PM
'A pneumothorax' starts with an 'A'.

So does 'A brain tumour'.

The Bigfella
01-26-2014, 06:29 PM
I told those I thought could read that what the doc called it started with an 'a'...


Addled brain?

Amnesia?

There's lots of "a's" in here

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/alphaidx.asp?p=a_dict

George Jung
01-26-2014, 06:43 PM
Did they insert a chest tube? If not, I'm thinking 'atelectasis' rather than pneumothorax.

The Bigfella
01-26-2014, 06:53 PM
I'm thinking he needs to re-visit the doc.... and take a pencil and paper with him.

Phillip Allen
01-26-2014, 07:41 PM
Did they insert a chest tube? If not, I'm thinking 'atelectasis' rather than pneumothorax.

now, that's a possibility... collapse around the edges is the way it was descrbed (I think there might of been an 'asis' on the end... ) If I really wanted to know, it would only require a call to the horse pistol... or I could walk there as it's only a couple hundred yards

now... HOW IN THE H-ll HAS THIS TURNED INTO A FIGHT???

George Jung
01-26-2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not fighting.... who's fighting??? Relax.... have a brew.... wait for 'the signs'...

Spin_Drift
01-27-2014, 04:23 AM
Phillip, seems like a good time for second opinion checkup.

Wishing you all the very best.

Bernadette
01-27-2014, 06:09 AM
phillip, no fight. just my curios medical mind working thats all. i see what you mean though…i went back and re read your posts and you didn't mention a pneumothorax. i just assumed incorrectly. still, i do wonder what prompted the atelectasis as this is due for the most and usual part by decreased inspiratory volume (i.e. not breathing up big/taking big breaths).

propensity for such a condition should be something to investigate.

interestingly enough, most people do not breath properly in the first instance. in its exaggerated form, diaphragmatic breathing ensures air gets into the basal lobes. when this is done correctly, the abdomen should be seen to move to allow the diaphragm to move downward. on the other hand many people breath into the upper lobes. thats why yoga is so good for the body. it encourages deep purposeful breathing.

and briefly: post #s 60 and 61 are just nonsense etc etc.

gareth, thank you very much for the fine comments! much appreciated!
however there is also tension pneumothorax and haemopnemothorax. all quite distinct from the garden variety pneumothorax. so yes i suppose its a fancy term for collapsed lung but not really when you break down the word...

George.
01-27-2014, 01:39 PM
collapsed lungs (just a little bit)

the surgery (two weeks ago) from the de-fib/pacemaker may have been the beginning of it

I'm home stoking the fires... 2 degrees tonight

Sheisse! A speedy recovery, and best wishes from Sil and I!