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George.
01-23-2014, 04:27 PM
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24916-new-species-of-river-dolphin-bo#.UuGIjJHA2SN

The largest known population is in Cantão, where we work. We will be doing the first census this dry season, using the drone, to try to confirm its Red List status. Then we get to work to save it from the fate of the Baiji.

If you are interested, there is a link to the actual paper at the end of the report I linked to.

Flying Orca
01-23-2014, 04:29 PM
Very cool - always nice to meet new cousins!

George.
01-23-2014, 04:38 PM
Too bad commercial fishermen are starting to put our poison bait for them. You know, they have been eating fish for 2 million years; commercial fishing on the Araguaia started in earnest about 20 years ago. Now the fishery is collapsing, so it is obviously the fault of the dolphins, right?

Flying Orca
01-23-2014, 04:44 PM
Well, you know, if God had intended for them to eat those fish, She would have... well, I don't know, made them immune to the poison, or something?

Arrggghhhh - people.

George.
01-23-2014, 04:49 PM
Well, there are less than 1000 left, so it won't be a problem for long.

Flying Orca
01-23-2014, 06:16 PM
...so long, and thanks for taking all the fish?

bogdog
01-23-2014, 06:31 PM
The Japanese like to blame small cetaceans for their problems too, must be a shortage of mirrors.

George.
01-24-2014, 04:34 AM
Others in the US blame seals. In the Amazon some blame giant otters as well as dolphins. In Europe it is "regular" otters as well as seals.

All I know is we have gotten to the point where:

- we are still so ignorant about life that there are still unknown species of large mammals in plain sight

- we are so destructive that they are in danger of extinction before we even discover them - even though they arei useluss for food or commerce and do us no harm at all.


Lords of creation, indeed. :(

skuthorp
01-24-2014, 04:36 AM
The malfeasance of man knows no bounds………………..
Our turn will come at our own hand.

PeterSibley
01-24-2014, 04:37 AM
Too bad commercial fishermen are starting to put our poison bait for them. You know, they have been eating fish for 2 million years; commercial fishing on the Araguaia started in earnest about 20 years ago. Now the fishery is collapsing, so it is obviously the fault of the dolphins, right?

We are a cancer.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
01-24-2014, 09:38 AM
There are just far, far, far too many of us.

a "SUSTAINABLE" population of humans might be about the same as the populations of the other great apes.

Full Tilt
01-24-2014, 09:41 AM
There are just far, far, far too many of us.

a "SUSTAINABLE" population of humans might be about the same as the populations of the other great apes.


They're "putting out poison" to correct that problem too.

Reynard38
01-24-2014, 09:52 AM
http://youtu.be/-Na9-jV_OJI

Flying Orca
01-24-2014, 11:14 AM
There are just far, far, far too many of us.

a "SUSTAINABLE" population of humans might be about the same as the populations of the other great apes.

I suspect we could manage a billion or so without problematic impact upon the systems that sustain us.

George.
01-24-2014, 11:23 AM
Yes, about a billion or so could have quality of life, green spaces, and real food to eat.

9 billion, OTOH... I suppose we could live like chickens in a factory farm.

George Ray
05-21-2014, 09:13 AM
http://www.araguaia.org/cantao/Home.html

The Bigfella
05-21-2014, 09:36 AM
So what did George do to get banned? When's he back?