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Arizona Bay
01-16-2014, 10:24 AM
No Unions, no sea level rise, no climate change, no medicaid expansion, no state exchanges, and there are proposals to eliminate unemployment insurance completely.
It could be the US in general, if they have their way.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/north-carolina-unemployment-benefit-cuts-poverty


North Carolina's poorest hit by federal cuts: 'Unless someone helps, we're bust'


"In February, in an attempt to address a $2bn debt that it owed the federal government, North Carolina passed a law that slashed both the number of weeks for which a job-seeker can receive state benefits and reduced the amount that it pays out in unemployment, from $535 a week to $350.In doing so, North Carolina knowingly violated a contract with the federal government, resulting in the automatic cutting off of federal assistance for the long-term unemployed. The changes, which came into effect in July, therefore didn’t just cut the amount of support that people who lost their jobs received from their government by a third, it also meant the maximum length of time they could receive such benefits plummeted from 99 weeks to just 19.
“What happened in North Carolina was one the harshest cuts in unemployment benefits we’ve ever seen in this country,” said Mike Evangelist, a policy director at the National Employment Law Project. "Nothing I know of compares to it."
The precise impact of the benefits reduction in North Carolina is difficult to discern, said Larry Katz, a Harvard professor. But he and other economists have recently been pointing to figures that hint at an alarming phenomena: people have been dropping out of an already bleak labor market, and in record numbers.
Since July, when the cuts came into force, North Carolina has experienced the largest contraction in its labor force since record-keeping began in 1977. Remarkably, the sharp decline in the workforce in North Carolina, which has a population of 9.75 million, has even altered the national picture.
Timothy Littke, 55, from Lumberton, gave up looking for work in North Carolina in October. He was laid off from his job building hog feeders in June, a month before the benefits cuts kicked in.
He has since relocated to live with his daughter in Pittsburgh. The story of Littke’s departure says much about about deprivation in his old home of Lumberton – a small city in the south of the state which, by one measure, is the poorest in America (http://www.wbtw.com/story/23652358/lumberton-ranked-as-poorest-city-in-america).
No one wanted to buy Littke's possessions, so what he couldn’t take with him to Pennsylvania, he locked up in his trailer. A friend later described how, the day Littke left, neighbors arrived with axes and pickup trucks to scavenge. “They even stripped off the metal to sell as scrap,” he said.
Unemployment insurance keeps the labor participation rate high because, in order to qualify for benefits, people need to look for work. When they stop looking, or stop receiving benefits, they are no longer counted in the unemployment rate, even if they're still out of work.
As a result, there has been a counterintuitive trend in the state: official figures say unemployment has actually fallen, from 8.8% in June to 7.4% in November.
That has led some Republicans to claim North Carolina's experiment in severe benefits reduction has been a success. Dave Camp, the chairman of the House ways and means committee, claimed the state's cut in benefits for jobseekers led to “rapid job creation” (http://www.freep.com/article/20131213/NEWS06/312130075/Michigan-unemployment-benefits).

John Smith
01-16-2014, 10:35 AM
I think I also saw a piece where they've cut taxes on the wealthy and raised them on the middle class.

Arizona Bay
01-16-2014, 10:52 AM
Yep, and large cuts to education funding.

Keith Wilson
01-16-2014, 11:50 AM
Wait and see. North Carolina is not nearly so southern nor so conservative as it once was. There is an enormous divide between the more liberal larger cities and the very conservative smaller cities and small towns. The cities are growing, the countryside is not. The Radical Republicans got control of things recently, but I think there's going to be a serious backlash.

bobbys
01-16-2014, 11:51 AM
south Carolina.

Texas.

Florida.

Alaska..

North Carolina......

Gerarddm
01-16-2014, 12:41 PM
The triumph of what HL Mencken called ​boobus americanus.

Arizona Bay
01-16-2014, 06:22 PM
Wait and see. North Carolina is not nearly so southern nor so conservative as it once was. There is an enormous divide between the more liberal larger cities and the very conservative smaller cities and small towns. The cities are growing, the countryside is not. The Radical Republicans got control of things recently, but I think there's going to be a serious backlash.

NC is a really nice place to live, parts of it (Asheville in particular) are well educated and rather liberal, but there has always been a disconnect between the people and the Gov.. There is a well entrenched good ol' boy network and they've been backlashing against liberals (and the usual undesirables), for years. Eventually they'll go, but not without a loud fight. I'm hoping this is their last go at full control.

SMARTINSEN
01-16-2014, 06:35 PM
It may take longer than you think. A very large part of the problem:
http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/images/preview/congdist/pagecgd113_nc.gif


NC is gerrymandered within an inch of its life.

Waddie
01-16-2014, 07:08 PM
People will often move from states with lower benefits to states with higher benefits. North Carolina is simply exporting it's excess labor, and saving money in the process. Of course, it works even better if the state next door has much higher benefits.

regards,
Waddie

bluelena69
08-06-2014, 09:32 PM
The GOP only seized control of NC by pulling off one of the most egregious examples of gerrymandering in modern political history. NC has its share of slack-jawed, mouth-breathing idiots who wouldn't recognize a vote in their own interests if it smacked them upside the head...but its not nearly as backwards and stupid as the current powers make it appear. The NC GOP appears to recognize that their time is limited as they have been executing a scorched earth policy from day one. I hope NC can survive it.

hanleyclifford
08-06-2014, 10:10 PM
That is some serious gerrymandering. Makes Massachusetts almost look honest (not really).:)

SMARTINSEN
08-07-2014, 06:56 AM
I think that Kay Hagen has a pretty good chance of retaining her seat it is one of those tossup states that Geng has already colored red.