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L.W. Baxter
01-12-2014, 12:36 PM
We were gifted a Keurig beverage-maker for Christmas.

I was skeptical at first, and now after using it for a while I am filled with resentment.

Peerie Maa
01-12-2014, 12:38 PM
I'd have thought that you would be filled with beve . . . oh never mind.

L.W. Baxter
01-12-2014, 12:40 PM
I'd have thought that you would be filled with beve . . . oh never mind.

It's hard to get full of coffee six ounces (and $.80) at a time.

ron ll
01-12-2014, 12:44 PM
$.80! Even my Nespresso was only $.50 but I still hated it. Just not good coffee even tho it has a pod container half life up there with strontium.

Keith Wilson
01-12-2014, 12:48 PM
Here you go: traditional Central American coffee maker, from where they grow the stuff. Grind beans. Put 'em in the sock. Pour boiling water over them. Works every time.

http://erinoleary.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dsc0785casa.jpg

L.W. Baxter
01-12-2014, 12:50 PM
$.80! Even my Nespresso was only $.50 but I still hated it. Just not good coffee even tho it has a pod container half life up there with strontium.

To be fair, off-brand cups can be had for $.50 each. But that still adds up to a buck-fiddy to fill my morning mug.

I've also tried loose grounds in the strainer provided, but that makes for a pretty weak cup. And I have to go multiple rounds anyway.

Hwyl
01-12-2014, 12:51 PM
Fortunately my Keurig was allergic to potable antifreeze, it never worked after I closed up my house one winter.

L.W. Baxter
01-12-2014, 12:52 PM
Here you go: traditional Central American coffee maker, from where they grow the stuff. Grind beans. Put 'em in the sock. Pour boiling water over them. Works every time...

Keith, I know multiple ways to make coffee. The Keurig machine happens to be the most ridiculous and aggravating ever invented.

I am full of hatred that these con artists managed to come up with a way to extract substantially more money out of people for an inferior product, while simultaneously creating extra mountains of landfill crap.

L.W. Baxter
01-12-2014, 12:54 PM
My wife is amenable to getting rid of the thing, but she wants to re-gift it. I can't think of anyone I dislike enough to pass it on to.

Keith Wilson
01-12-2014, 01:00 PM
The Keurig machine happens to be the most ridiculous and aggravating ever invented.I can't argue with you at all.. An expensive fad; people in herds with too much money.

A little session with a sledgehammer might be good for the soul. (Wear safety glasses.) ;)

Breakaway
01-12-2014, 01:01 PM
I am full of hatred that these con artists managed to come up with a way to extract substantially more money out of people for an inferior product, while simultaneously creating extra mountains of landfill crap.

Yes, yes and yes. Plus, Keurig coffee is never hot.

Kevin

S/V Laura Ellen
01-12-2014, 01:04 PM
I can't argue with you at all.. An expensive fad; people in herds with too much money.

A little session with a sledgehammer might be good for the soul. (Wear safety glasses.) ;)

Joe (CSOH) claims it make excellent espresso.
I think it makes espresso on par with (or slightly better than) the worst I have tasted from a conventional espresso machine.

Jim Bow
01-12-2014, 01:25 PM
Ranks right beside the home soda pop maker.

Gerarddm
01-12-2014, 01:49 PM
Chemex, baby.

ron ll
01-12-2014, 01:51 PM
Here you go: traditional Central American coffee maker, from where they grow the stuff. Grind beans. Put 'em in the sock. Pour boiling water over them. Works every time.



Probably not so much if it were MY sock.

L.W. Baxter
01-12-2014, 01:58 PM
I don't see the convenience factor, at all. That seems to me more perception than reality.

I suppose if you leave it on 24/7, you can get a teacup of inferior coffee a few minutes faster than you might by other methods.

Peerie Maa
01-12-2014, 02:04 PM
Here you go: traditional Central American coffee maker, from where they grow the stuff. Grind beans. Put 'em in the sock. Pour boiling water over them. Works every time.

http://erinoleary.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dsc0785casa.jpg
Any better than metal polish strained through a sock?

As recommended by Bea Clissold's a.k.a Lady Counterblast's trusty old butler, Spasm, many, many times.

Chip-skiff
01-12-2014, 02:06 PM
Trendy junk, and they generate too much trash. We've stayed in hotels that had the damn things (we're both coffee hounds) and the waste basket would be half-full of those little plastic/foil cuppies. Plus the above comments about temperature, strength, and quantity are accurate. If we got one as a gift, I wouldn't even unwrap it.

When we house-sat for friends in Auckland who had a magnificent espresso machine, I got hooked on Long Blacks (Americanos in the US). I got a budget machine (DeLonghi) for Christmas a few years ago, and use it for all my coffee-making.

I've had one of these little beauties for twenty years or so: good for camping and cruising.

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Beverage/MokaPot2.jpg

Soundbounder
01-12-2014, 02:13 PM
I don't see the convenience factor, at all. That seems to me more perception than reality.

I suppose if you leave it on 24/7, you can get a teacup of inferior coffee a few minutes faster than you might by other methods.And it is only convenient if you plan on having one cup

Old Dryfoot
01-12-2014, 02:21 PM
Marketing genius, impractical junk.

We had one of these, it used a coffee portion similar to a round teabag.

http://www.hometone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/title_hjdcs.jpg

It made horrible coffee in miniscule amounts.

George Jung
01-12-2014, 02:34 PM
I got the SS 'after market' cups, lets me grind/fill my own, to my own taste. Our Keurig allows a 'small' and a 'full' cup setting. It's convenient in that regard - at work, it's fresher than the crap sitting in the Mr. Coffee! No way I'd buy the individual pre-paks. That's just nuts.

bobbys
01-12-2014, 02:40 PM
I love mine although now I feel as I'm not a cool guy.

I start my morn with 2 cups of tea with honey with flies floating on top for protein..

then it's one cup or maybe 2 of joe.

I only use the filters where you add your own

that's because I'm incredibly cheap.
sure there are grounds floating around and it's lukewarm but a few minutes in the nuclear reactor machine and it's hotter then.... We'll lets not go there.

my daughter worked at M acminumins and brought home day old stuff so I have not bought in a year..

Rest assured they only serve fresh.

great for me but I only drink one or maybe 2cups a day.


In the old days we used a percolator and had to use cupfulls of grounds instead of a few teaspoons just for a cup or 2..

I may brew 2 cups but only drink half a cup, I put the cups down and forget where they are so at any given time there are at least 4half full cups around the house all cold and forlorn.

Donn
01-12-2014, 02:43 PM
How is the quality of the hot chocolate and other specialty drinks?

I make my coffee in one of these:

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Keep it hot in one of these:

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/6b/6ba27914-6574-44b7-87db-58827c15105a_300.jpg

And pour it, 6oz at a time, into one of these:

http://imagecdn-0.findnsave.com/49/2515292-420

It's a good system.

Nicholas Carey
01-12-2014, 02:58 PM
Two words: Aerobie Aeropress (http://aerobie.com/products/aeropress.htm). Assuming you've got boiling water, 60 seconds to coffee. $30 for the press; 500 filters for $5. Amazingly good coffee.

http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/ristretto-aeropress/
http://blog.coffeereview.com/coffee-at-home/the-aeropress-coffee-maker-2/

Alan Adler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Adler), the Stanford University mechanical engineering professor who improved the frisbee (Aerobie flying ring, world record for furthest thrown object @ 1,333 ft/406m, the first thrown object to break the quarter-mile)

http://georgia-outfitters.com/images/hem3c_new_02.jpg

Improvedmproved the french press a few years ago

http://aerobie.com/images/aero_press_03.jpg

Here's a video

http://vimeo.com/16261120

http://vimeo.com/16261120

ron ll
01-12-2014, 03:05 PM
How is cleanup on the Aeropress?

Chip-skiff
01-12-2014, 03:26 PM
How is cleanup on the Aeropress?

I wonder, too. We use a big press-pot on river trips, and it's a bugger to clean: have to take apart the screen bits, and so on.

Nicholas Carey
01-12-2014, 03:30 PM
How is cleanup on the Aeropress?

You remove the filter holder on the bottom and hold the press over the compost bin or trash can. Pressing the plunger until it bottoms out eject the filter and hockey puck of spent grounds. That's all there is to it. The plunger has a flexy squeegee-like silicone seal that cleans the body of the press. You want to store the Aeropress in that state as well, so the flexy seal on the plunger doesn't take a set to it from being compressed.

You might want to wash things now and again with soap and water to remove any buildup of coffee oils.

TomF
01-12-2014, 03:33 PM
I'm tempted to just chew the coffee beans and drink milk.

Coffee is an essential quantity item in my life; Keith's Central American solution has a lot to recommend it. These days I use a drip machine (a slightly automated disposable sock + warming plate, it seems to me), and supplement with a small french press when I'll be the only one drinking it.

I now keep a stovetop perc in the cupboard to tide me over during the inevitable (annual, usually) intervals between when a drip machine breaks and I acquire a new one. A Bunn would be ideal, except it is too expensive to justify in my household.

L.W. Baxter
01-12-2014, 03:39 PM
How is the quality of the hot chocolate and other specialty drinks?...

Indistinguishable from other granulated drink mixes.

The Keurig would be better replaced by a small, on-demand water boiler with tap. I wouldn't mind having that in my kitchen.

Garret
01-12-2014, 03:45 PM
The Keurig sure put Green Mountain Coffee Roasters on the map. In fact, they want to change their name to "Keurig Green Mountain Coffee Roasters" as those little cups now makes up 90% of their business - they package most everyone's - even Starbucks.

It's handy for a public place - say an auto repair shop waiting room or such. For home? Too 'spensive for me. I have a single mug (up to 14 oz.) brewer that uses a metal screen basket that I'm pretty happy with. Not quite as hot as I'd like, but decent & very handy. Using all those non-biodegadable cups just grates on me. Seems they've spent a fortune working on biodegradable ones - but they just don't work as well.

Donn
01-12-2014, 03:53 PM
Indistinguishable from other granulated drink mixes.



We like the powdered Starbucks Classic Hot Cocoa mix we buy at Costco. Make it correctly and it's fantastic.

Vince Brennan
01-12-2014, 03:55 PM
We have a Keurig Vue for the tax office: it beats the heck out of making two full pots (reg & decaf) and dumping 2/3 of one or the other at the end of the day, it gives the customers something to play with (that they can do in public) and, since it's a business expense, it's a win-win sitchiation. AND, the coffee isn't all THAT bad. We buy in bulk from commercial suppliers and get quite a variety of... interesting.... flavours.

The Hot Chocolate is quite a bit better than D/Donuts.

My 2¢

Chip-skiff
01-12-2014, 04:01 PM
I've got a credit at a supplier that probably sells the Aeropress things. Might give it a go. (Just checked: it's $32. Hmmmmm.)

The coffee shown in the video looks weak. Another reservation is that brewing in small batches with no external source of heat during the process (as there is with an old-time espresso pot) tends to yield cool coffee, unless it's pressed into a pre-warmed mug or carafe.

SMARTINSEN
01-12-2014, 04:49 PM
French press.

That is all.

LeeG
01-12-2014, 05:49 PM
I've had one of these little beauties for twenty years or so: good for camping and cruising.

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Beverage/MokaPot2.jpg

30yrs ago hanging with dope growing friends in the Pygmy forest of Mendocino that's how we made well water potable. Damp, cold, the first fire was for coffee.

Breakaway
01-12-2014, 05:59 PM
How is the quality of the hot chocolate and other specialty drinks?




Mediocre. But we have kept ours for the sole reason that it allows our young children to make their own green tea, hot chocolate and hot cider.

Kevin

PAlien
01-12-2014, 05:59 PM
Long time insulated french press snob here, just chiming in with praise for the Aeropress. I was totally skeptical, but I'll be danged if the thing hasn't totally won me over. Easiest clean up by far of any coffee device I've ever used, and really makes great coffee if you prefer the strong stuff over drip type. Not sure how it does replicating drip style, but it does a fantastic job of making french press or espresso type dark full cups. I'm completely sold on it.

elf
01-12-2014, 06:08 PM
20 years ago I sent in a Gevalia card offer.

Makes three decent cups (they think it's 10).

#4 filter and grinds go in compost. Washing up water goes in pail and out kitchen door.

Wave reheats cups 2 and 3.

Choose your beans, grind them the way you think they should be, use as many as you like for each pot.


The only environmental abuse is washing the carafe. If you recapture the water, and get it back outdoors then there's no abuse.

pkrone
01-12-2014, 09:37 PM
I started roasting my own coffee beans a couple of years ago. I'm now amazed at how burnt most commercially roasted coffees are these days, especially the Keurig stuff. Thanks Starbucks?

S/V Laura Ellen
01-12-2014, 10:21 PM
I started roasting my own coffee beans a couple of years ago. I'm now amazed at how burnt most commercially roasted coffees are these days, especially the Keurig stuff. Thanks Starbucks?

You are right about Starbucks beans being burnt. Thanks to Starbucks, people think that it's supposed to be that way.
I get my coffee beans from an excellent local roaster every two weeks (shelf life of roasted beans).
The beans are ground with-in minutes of use (there is no shelf life for ground beans).

Garret
01-12-2014, 11:12 PM
You are right about Starbucks beans being burnt. Thanks to Starbucks, people think that it's supposed to be that way.


Luckily - not all think that way. I too use a local roaster & it's hugely better.

S/V Laura Ellen
01-12-2014, 11:17 PM
*shrugs* Yer all a bunch of coffee snobs! :)

We've had one for ages, and I happen to like it.... NOT because it is economical, not because it makes a great cup of coffee (it isn't, and doesn't), but because it is very convenient.

There's nothing wrong with opting for convenience, at times.

FYI, we use the Keurig 'Vue' system at work.... it's a bit better than the K-cup version.


Luckily - not all think that way. I too use a local roaster & it's hugely better.

I guess you and I (and a few others here) are just coffee snobs.

Paul Girouard
01-12-2014, 11:35 PM
My wife wanted one for Christmas , I haven't set it up yet, I hope she likes it better than LW-ya. She plans on using our regular coffee in some re-useable containers that hold the grounds. At our office at work they have one , everyone seems to like it there, I've never used it , but have had coffee made in it, it seemed very hot. I seem to remember the secretary saying the temp was adjustable. Maybe different models don't have all the features??

Glen Longino
01-13-2014, 12:02 AM
I love mine although now I feel as I'm not a cool guy.

I start my morn with 2 cups of tea with honey with flies floating on top for protein..

then it's one cup or maybe 2 of joe.

I only use the filters where you add your own

that's because I'm incredibly cheap.
sure there are grounds floating around and it's lukewarm but a few minutes in the nuclear reactor machine and it's hotter then.... We'll lets not go there.

my daughter worked at M acminumins and brought home day old stuff so I have not bought in a year..

Rest assured they only serve fresh.

great for me but I only drink one or maybe 2cups a day.


In the old days we used a percolator and had to use cupfulls of grounds instead of a few teaspoons just for a cup or 2..

I may brew 2 cups but only drink half a cup, I put the cups down and forget where they are so at any given time there are at least 4half full cups around the house all cold and forlorn.

:):)I hereby retract all my condemnations of you, BobBS!
I never knew you were a victim of coffee poisoning, or I would have been more kind and understanding and supportive.
Call me a Humanitarian!:)

bobbys
01-13-2014, 12:47 AM
:):)I hereby retract all my condemnations of you, BobBS!
I never knew you were a victim of coffee poisoning, or I would have been more kind and understanding and supportive.
Call me a Humanitarian!:)
Your a humanitarian.

slug
01-13-2014, 03:06 AM
Gee...whats wrong with the paper coffee filter ? It never breaks down. Just add hot water .makes great coffee

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Ron Williamson
01-13-2014, 06:49 AM
Tassimo makes Keurig look fantastic.
Someone gave us a Tassimo and I had to quit using it for several reasons.
1)It seems to take forever
2)The servings are small.To get more in a cup you have to hold a button down.
3)The packages are VERY expensive.
4)You can't use a refillable basket because of the barcode.
5)It's very noisy.

When I want caffeine,I'm irritable,not charitable.

I've been happy using a cheap French press for about a year now.
R

Garret
01-13-2014, 07:39 AM
I guess you and I (and a few others here) are just coffee snobs.

Guess so. I also like supporting a local business. What's known as the "Church Street Marketplace" in Burlington (4 blocks close off to pedestrian traffic only) has a Starbucks and a local coffee shop across the street from each other. Kills me to see folks in the Starbucks - the others coffee is hugely better. Plus you can smell the roaster as you walk in.

To another post: the Melitta drip system makes good coffee I think It's what I use on the boat.

peb
01-13-2014, 08:03 AM
I am rather picky about my coffee, the Keurig doesnt pass muster ( my daughter has one). After years if trying to find a really good, relatively cheap brew, I have found the perfect coffee.

Ruta Maya Organic Coffee. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002ZH6XYI

My wife buys it at Costco. Simple blade grinder, and drip coffee maker. Total cost for beans: less than 2 bucks per day.

It is one of the best coffee's I have ever drank. Always get compliments on it when we have guests over.

BrianW
01-13-2014, 08:45 AM
We really enjoy our Keurig. We have a couple reusable k-cup filter things that work great, and a really nice coffee bean grinder sitting right next to the Keurig. Just hit one button on the grinder (which is easily adjustable for grind size and quantity), pull out the little plastic cup with the fresh ground coffee, pour coffee into reusable k-cup, k-cup into Keurig, press button, wait a minute, grab bottle of Carolans, add to coffee, done.

BrianW
01-13-2014, 08:46 AM
BTW, Joe loves the Nespresso, not the Keurig.

Flying Orca
01-13-2014, 09:28 AM
I have a Keurig at work and tried making coffee with it, but even with the cup full of the same beans I use at home, the coffee is much weaker than what I brew in my cafetière. Life is too short to put up with weak coffee.

ccmanuals
01-13-2014, 10:19 AM
I bought the Cuisnart single cup (Keurig type cup) and I only use the Starbuck's Pikes Place cups in it.

We only use it when we might want a cup in the evening or a odd times. Gotta say, I absolutely love it.

http://www.bigkitchen.com/MerchantUploads/edgeCPIGroup/SS-300.jpg

Paul Pless
01-13-2014, 10:28 AM
we have this, its the bomb, i can't imagine screwing around with any of those gimmicky prepackaged coffee machine toys
i can grind from fresh, make a puck, dispense a perfect double shot, and steam my milk in under two minutes every time

http://rk.wsimgs.com/wsimgs/rk/images/dp/wcm/201347/0002/img31c.jpg

Flying Orca
01-13-2014, 10:37 AM
Meh. Espresso's OK, I suppose, if you like burnt beans (hellooooo, Starbucks), but a good cup of pressed coffee has more caffeine, and tastes better too, IMNSHO.

S/V Laura Ellen
01-13-2014, 10:57 AM
BTW, Joe loves the Nespresso, not the Keurig.

You are correct.
It may not be accurate to lump all the capsule machines together.

peb
01-13-2014, 11:16 AM
Meh. Espresso's OK, I suppose, if you like burnt beans (hellooooo, Starbucks), but a good cup of pressed coffee has more caffeine, and tastes better too, IMNSHO.

Have to agree on the starbuck's comment. I find it hard to believe they haven't yet figured out how to not burn coffee. I wonder if they over grind the beans.

S/V Laura Ellen
01-13-2014, 11:23 AM
Have to agree on the starbuck's comment. I find it hard to believe they haven't yet figured out how to not burn coffee. I wonder if they over grind the beans.

It is my opinion that Starbucks over roasts the beans. If I grind Starbucks beans they still taste burnt.

willmarsh3
01-13-2014, 11:58 AM
At work the free Keurig coffee is one of the few company perks that I get. I like the French Roast best (3-4 cups per day). But the little cups fill the trash quickly as many folks like the coffee. Sometimes they break so I just go to another breakroom.

I see the Keurig and Nespresso machines at the store but have not seriously considered getting one.

Yes, I joined the club of coffee snobbery a long time ago. At home I use an Atomic stove top to make a perfectly balanced cappuccino. The only consumables are coffee, milk, water, cinnamon, cocoa and sugar. I made a nice little wooden box to hold the Atomic, hand grinder, beans, condiments and accessories in a little kit so I can take it to the boat.

bobbys
01-13-2014, 12:07 PM
my son bought a coffee stand and with it the machine that costs thousands of dollars, it's just sitting there! I suppose I could get it and like a mad scientist brew like crazy, In fact my daughter was a barista.


but alas coffee from a gas station suits me just fine .

If I'm in a mood to be frivolous with my money I buy a one dollar senior coffee from macdonalds.

slug
01-13-2014, 12:09 PM
Gee..in the US how much does a cup of coffee cost ? Not at Mcdonalds..at a real cafe.

Garret
01-13-2014, 12:11 PM
Gee..in the US how much does a cup of coffee cost ? Not at Mcdonalds..at a real cafe.

Starbucks is well over $2.00 - more like 3. Local shop with better coffee is 2 or less. That's VT prices.

slug
01-13-2014, 12:14 PM
Here...1.40 in town, 1.75 down by the waterfront.

proper cafe with a table .

Flying Orca
01-13-2014, 12:25 PM
The high-end coffee place next door to my office charges $3.50 for the best-tasting cup of drip coffee I've ever had, but that would be a bit steep if I didn't have a gift card.

peb
01-13-2014, 01:29 PM
Starbucks is well over $2.00 - more like 3. Local shop with better coffee is 2 or less. That's VT prices.

A tall pike ( add enough cream and it is bearable) at Starbucks is under 2 bucks.

bobbys
01-13-2014, 01:33 PM
I notice my wife and kids buy 3to4 dollar drinks from the stands, there is a coffee stand on every block.

they buy drinks that look like water downed milk shakes, all with whipped cream on top.

I shake my head at this mad spending just as my grandpa used to do to me when I did not jump and dive to pick up any penny on the ground.
if I do go to these stands I buy 1.50 Americans the cheapest they have! I pretend to throw in a tip but now they watch me.
just kidding Glenn calm down I tip 10 percent .....

peb
01-13-2014, 01:36 PM
my son bought a coffee stand and with it the machine that costs thousands of dollars, it's just sitting there! I suppose I could get it and like a mad scientist brew like crazy, In fact my daughter was a barista.

but alas coffee from a gas station suits me just fine .

If I'm in a mood to be frivolous with my money I buy a one dollar senior coffee from macdonalds.

Actually, McDonalds makes a pretty decent simple cup of coffee . The only thing I ever buy at McDonald's.
As to spending money on these ultra high end coffee makers, it is a complete waste. The machine is not nearly as important as the beans. Get the beans, and the grind correct, then you can make a final, very minor, improvement with the coffee maker if you are extremely picky.

Good beans will taste good with a 25 buck Me Coffe, bad beans will taste bad on a 1000 machine.

slug
01-13-2014, 02:10 PM
Beautiful coffee is brewed in Russia. Coffee is luxury.

A common russian coffee house machine is the balance arm unit powered by an oil flame.

The flame brings the water to a boil...the steam passes thru the coffee and is deposited into a cup on the other side of the beam..as the water vessel gets lighter and the coffee cup get heavy as it fills , the beam tilts up, a cap falls over the flame extinguishing it and the coffee is served.


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ccmanuals
01-13-2014, 02:16 PM
I remember when I was living in Turkey you could cut a cup of coffee there with a knife. Didn't really care for it.

S/V Laura Ellen
01-13-2014, 02:45 PM
Does anyone here use a vacuum brewing system such as this:
http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/625/809/558/007/pebo_vacuum_coffee_maker_by_bodum_1.jpg

Flying Orca
01-13-2014, 03:11 PM
Does anyone here use a vacuum brewing system such as this:
http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/625/809/558/007/pebo_vacuum_coffee_maker_by_bodum_1.jpg

I've always wanted to try one, as I hear they make great coffee, but... after checking prices, I always conclude that my French press is good enough for me.

Paul Pless
01-13-2014, 03:15 PM
I remember when I was living in Turkey you could cut a cup of coffee there with a knife. Didn't really care for it.ever drink 'cajun coffee'?

ccmanuals
01-13-2014, 03:41 PM
ever drink 'cajun coffee'?

Nope. Sounds though like it could be similar to the Turkish.

Stiletto
01-13-2014, 05:06 PM
When I was in Indonesia years ago the US$1.00 a night accomodation included breakfast which was a banana, a small bread roll and a glass of Java's finest with about two tablespoons of coffee and one of sugar with boiling water poured over it. I was certainly up and awake after that!

Concordia...41
01-13-2014, 06:07 PM
In the "As Time Goes By" vein - as many folks wouldn't know how to fill a percolator basket and plug it in - nor enjoy that special sound - there's some 20somethings that don't know anything but Keurigs.

One of my clients was completely frustrated by a young bright intern, who we thought had promise, and who had a visual on the Mr. Coffee, but returned from the store with three boxes of pods when "coffee" was what was on the list.

I'd just bet that the Keurig was all the kid had ever used.

[Now where did I put that handbasket?]

Bobby of Tulsa
01-13-2014, 06:46 PM
There are some that don't know you can put a pot of water on the fire and put a hand full of ground coffee in it and have the best coffee in the world, especially the second or third day.:ycool:

willmarsh3
01-13-2014, 06:58 PM
ever drink 'cajun coffee'?

I had the Turkish coffee over there in Ismir and loved it. I just put trying the Cajun coffee on my list when I'm down in those parts next.

Chris Coose
01-13-2014, 09:27 PM
There is no coffee like the one I strain in Victoria's cockpit on an early morning in July in some exotic Maine cove.

S/V Laura Ellen
01-13-2014, 10:58 PM
There is no coffee like the one I strain in Victoria's cockpit on an early morning in July in some exotic Maine cove.

It helps any coffee to be consumed in an idyllic environment.

Full Tilt
01-14-2014, 12:23 PM
http://www.ecofriendlylink.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ekobrew-make-coffee-not-trash.jpg

Ron Williamson
01-14-2014, 12:45 PM
There are some that don't know you can put a pot of water on the fire and put a hand full of ground coffee in it and have the best coffee in the world, especially the second or third day.:ycool:

Spectacular even on the first frosty morning if you are in Algonquin in early May.
R

ron ll
01-14-2014, 12:59 PM
And of course the latest news, studies show that not only does coffee enhance your memory, it also does NOT dehydrate you as previously thought, and in fact hydrates as well as plain water if you are a regular coffee drinker.

(Of course I've also just seen a new study that says most studies are made up. )

slug
01-14-2014, 01:00 PM
Coffee is dangerous.....


" In Italy, around 1600, priests asked Pope Clement VIII to forbid the favourite drink of the Ottoman Empire considering it part of the Infidel threat. On taking one sip, the pope found the drink delicious and baptised it - making it an acceptable Christian beverage. "


"In 1674 The Women's Petition Against Coffee was set up in London. Women complained that men were never to be found at home during times of domestic crises, since they were always enjoying themselves in the coffee houses. They circulated a petition protesting "the grand inconveniences accruing to their sex from the excessive use of the drying and enfeebling liquor".

A year later, King Charles II tries to supress the coffee houses because they were regarded as hotbeds of revolution but his proclamation is revoked after a huge public outcry and the ban lasts just 11 days.

ron ll
01-14-2014, 01:22 PM
Just made myself another cup, with the best method for both taste and ease of cleanup, as has been pointed out already.

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r560/ron_ll/coffee2_zpsd7bca5f3.jpg?t=1389723613

Flying Orca
01-14-2014, 05:12 PM
Beans for making Espresso don't have to be burnt, or even very dark.

Oh, I know, it's just that the usual "espresso roast" is way too dark for my taste. As an extraction method, it can be quite nice, and with a nutty or fruity coffee the resulting flavour can be heavenly.

I've been thinking about giving cold-brew a try - anyone tried it?

S/V Laura Ellen
01-14-2014, 06:59 PM
Oh, I know, it's just that the usual "espresso roast" is way too dark for my taste.

Usual espresso roast??? Not sure what an usual espresso roast would be.
I have a few blends that I like from my local roaster, some are darker than others, none taste burnt. The roast profile for each blends has been designed to bring out the good qualities of the beans used in the blend.
Each of the blends need to be ground differently to get a proper extraction (approx. 20 secs for a double shot).

Bill R
01-14-2014, 07:50 PM
French press.

That is all.

Best cup of coffee I have ever had in my life was at Hughman's shop one afternoon from his little French press thingy.

We have a Keurig. Convenient if you want one cup. However, I tend to drink coffee by the pot. I resurrected a Bunn commercial fast brew coffeemaker I was told by a former employer to throw away. It is currently at a jobsite brewing 3-4 gallons of coffee a day for the (4 man) construction crew there. Good coffee too.

S/V Laura Ellen
01-14-2014, 08:15 PM
Allan, what grinder do you use?


I have an Iberital grinder.
It is adequate for what I use it for, but a bit noisy.
http://mydibellacoffee.com.au/images/EQU.DCG.IBERDEMAND%200001.jpg

L.W. Baxter
01-14-2014, 10:02 PM
....I resurrected a Bunn commercial fast brew coffeemaker I was told by a former employer to throw away. It is currently at a jobsite brewing 3-4 gallons of coffee a day for the (4 man) construction crew there. Good coffee too.

Good grief, a gallon of coffee each? You know how many K-cups that is???:D

Paul Girouard
01-15-2014, 12:21 AM
It is currently at a jobsite brewing 3-4 gallons of coffee a day for the (4 man) construction crew there. Good coffee too.





Good grief, a gallon of coffee each? You know how many K-cups that is???:D

Not to mention the porta can must need serviced daily! How do they get any work done if they each drink a gallon of coffee a day? Man I'd be in the porta can pissin the day away!!!:eek::D

The Bigfella
01-15-2014, 01:45 AM
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Full Tilt
01-15-2014, 01:49 AM
No ice?

:confused:

ron ll
01-16-2014, 11:06 AM
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r560/ron_ll/coffeechart_zpsbd9b9eb4.jpg

essaunders
01-16-2014, 11:22 AM
I drink hand-ground french-pressed coffee and home. the compost pile eats the grounds.

I reluctantly use a Keurig at work (for a second cup, if needed) as I have no compost or sink readily available.

PhaseLockedLoop
01-16-2014, 01:13 PM
*shrugs* Yer all a bunch of coffee snobs! :)

We've had one for ages, and I happen to like it.... NOT because it is economical, not because it makes a great cup of coffee (it isn't, and doesn't), but because it is very convenient.


Oh-oh. For once I agree with you. Maybe one of us should think again?

Full Tilt
01-16-2014, 01:25 PM
This is what the curse looks like.

http://moustachecoffeeclub.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/k-cups-could-be-harming-you.jpg

Enjoy your "convenient" coffee.

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Im actually surprised no one has made a biodegradeable or 100% recycleable cup for these yet. I use one but only with the refillable insert so far. I recycle everything I can and the fact that these cups are not recycleable is an issue for me. The coffee is good enough for me, I'm no coffee snob, especially after drinking what they call coffee for the last 20 years at work.

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 03:10 PM
I'm sure it's not hard to do, I just happen to like the other stuff just fine. Its pretty well what I've been used to since high school. I can appreciate a great cup of coffee, but the swill is still ok by me. I'm rarely dissapointed by the taste of coffee anywhere I go, with the exception of starbucks. That stuff is horrible.

Garret
01-16-2014, 03:38 PM
Im actually surprised no one has made a biodegradeable or 100% recycleable cup for these yet. I use one but only with the refillable insert so far. I recycle everything I can and the fact that these cups are not recycleable is an issue for me. The coffee is good enough for me, I'm no coffee snob, especially after drinking what they call coffee for the last 20 years at work.

I have friends who work at Green Mountain Coffee Roasters - the folks who make most of these - and the issue is more complex than it'd seem. All the recyclable materials don't stand up well enough when stored for the several months needed for distribution. According to them, if they could find/develop an acceptable material they would in a heartbeat. They are still working on it though.

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 03:43 PM
I'd love to see that happen, just for the sheer number of these in use. I'm probably still to cheap to buy them, but the market is huge.

L.W. Baxter
01-16-2014, 07:10 PM
My understanding is that really small pieces of plastic, like the size of k-cups, don't generally get recycled anyway.

Just like small scraps of paper, our garbage company encourages us to throw away the really small stuff, as it is a byotch to sort. I think they may have a giant sieve and all the small bits get sifted out and sent to landfill.

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 07:47 PM
Many places that accept recycling now do not even need recyclables sorted. I know at my home in NH you don't have to separate anything. All goes in the same bin, and I recycle even the smallest bits of plastic and paper. Amazing how little real trash I have.

Full Tilt
01-16-2014, 07:57 PM
http://americablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/midway-albatross-2.jpg

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 08:05 PM
I've seen those images and its troubling. I rarely drink anything bottled, and recycle and repurpose anything I can. Yogurt and sour cream containers are regularly used for mix cups or glue cups before. Trash is disposed of properly and recycled as much as possible. The odds of changing such a consumer society is pretty slim though.

Full Tilt
01-16-2014, 08:13 PM
The odds of changing such a consumer society is pretty slim though.

Oh it's gonna change alright.

pefjr
01-16-2014, 08:50 PM
Here you go: traditional Central American coffee maker, from where they grow the stuff. Grind beans. Put 'em in the sock. Pour boiling water over them. Works every time.

http://erinoleary.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dsc0785casa.jpg

Is that a thorlos, or will any ol sock do? Where can a man acquire one of these?

pefjr
01-16-2014, 08:53 PM
We were gifted a Keurig beverage-maker for Christmas.

I was skeptical at first, and now after using it for a while I am filled with resentment.I'd take that down to Interstate 15 exit on Sahara, where those three bums work 20 min. shifts, give it to one of them, those guys can afford that kind of coffee.

Full Tilt
01-16-2014, 09:50 PM
I'm getting superb coffee for 20 cents per mug while supporting a local small business, and leaving completely compostable waste.
To Hell with convenience!

Yay Fred!

It's a false convenience anyway when you can only buy coffee at stores that carry keurig, have to wait for each individual cup to be brewed and have to deal with all the waste.

:d

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 09:56 PM
Oh it's gonna change alright.
Not anytime soon.

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 10:00 PM
Yay Fred!

It's a false convenience anyway when you can only buy coffee at stores that carry keurig, have to wait for each individual cup to be brewed and have to deal with all the waste.

:d
I use a keurig machine but can still use any coffee I want with zero waste other than composting coffee grounds. Still messing around with which blend I like best but you don't have to be a slave to the cups.

Full Tilt
01-16-2014, 10:29 PM
I was given one and tried it for a month or two.

I spent a lot of time standing around waiting for each individual cup to be brewed.

The Tim Horton automatic coffee maker I have now brews a whole pot in the same length of time and I can refill my mug in seconds.

That's 10x faster.

Tom Wilkinson
01-16-2014, 11:20 PM
Not at all. Have a scoop that portions enough exactly. Got a pack of four off brand reuseable cups and so by the time I've had four cups the first one has dried enough that the grounds just pour out. No rinsing to speak of. Simple and easy. I did get a smokin deal on a keurig that has direct water plumber in so that much easier. I will admit that was at least half the reason I got it, lol.

skipper68
01-17-2014, 02:06 AM
I have a grinder for 2 bucks from the Salvation army, and our Hamilton Beach Brewstation.
No glass carafe to break, just push your cup in.
Captain wants some water with his coffee. I want coffee with some water,
It gets a little testy when he makes it, But it works fast, and no one has been hurt yet.:)

slug
01-17-2014, 02:38 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhh...coffee, that smell.

Id offer your one but , well, you know...the price of coffee these days is just killing me.

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Ron Williamson
01-17-2014, 06:02 AM
The cup is normal.
Slug is a giant.
R

George Jung
01-17-2014, 08:35 AM
If I recall correctly, Green Mountain Coffee was started by the same genius wot made his fortune selling dbbl-size doobie papers; the Keurig was marketing for his Green Mountain Coffee - as at the time, re-fillables weren't available. Now it sells on 'convenience'; I still prefer my own grind (coastal coffee/California), and refilling my own aftermarket cups. But GMC has a good business model.

Donn
01-17-2014, 08:59 AM
If I recall correctly, Green Mountain Coffee was started by the same genius wot made his fortune selling dbbl-size doobie papers;

That's right. Bob Stiller is the founder of Green Mountain. He and Burt Rubin invented EZ-Wider papers. They sold the company in '81 and split 6.2 million dollars. Rubin went on to invest in Studio 54 and then founded Evo Pens (http://evopen.com/evopenproducts.html). Stiller bought a cafe and became Green Mountain.

George Jung
01-17-2014, 09:04 AM
It's funny - relatively simple ideas, marketed correctly. There's a lesson in there, somewhere...

Full Tilt
01-17-2014, 09:18 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhh...coffee, that smell.

Id offer your one but , well, you know...the price of coffee these days is just killing me.

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Flashback!

Two couples in a rented ski shack.

One electric outlet halfway up the wall.

Me pouring boiling water into a Melitta cone.

Cone tips, spilling hot grounds on the back of my hand.

Spent the day alone in cabin with hand in bucket of ice water while everyone else skied.

Back of my hand still mottled like an appaloosa.

Garret
01-17-2014, 09:37 AM
That's right. Bob Stiller is the founder of Green Mountain. He and Burt Rubin invented EZ-Wider papers. They sold the company in '81 and split 6.2 million dollars. Rubin went on to invest in Studio 54 and then founded Evo Pens (http://evopen.com/evopenproducts.html). Stiller bought a cafe and became Green Mountain.

Bingo! Though the business was called Green Mountain Coffee Roasters already - it was a small location (about 7 miles from me) with 2 roasters & a cafe. Even before Keurig, he'd grown it hugely, providing coffee for Mobil stations & MacDonalds in the northeast, as well as Newman's Own. Now the keurigs are 80% of their sales. For their first 10 years or so (after Bob bought it) they ran on software a friend & I wrote.

Tom Wilkinson
10-15-2014, 03:33 PM
Looks like a 100% biodegradeable cup option is available now, and at a cost in line with other single serve cups.

http://blog.mycoffeesupply.com/white-bear-coffee-pods-100-biodegradable-option-single-serve-coffee/