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Reynard38
12-25-2013, 08:27 PM
I remember sailing over there when I was a kid. Guess things have changed.



http://youtu.be/Qna1JHIsyVM

McMike
12-25-2013, 08:49 PM
Was born there and l live close by .. . Yup, that's about what it looks like.

SMARTINSEN
12-25-2013, 09:04 PM
"I asked him how far we were from Hartford. He said he had never heard of the place; which I took to be a lie, but allowed it to go at that. At the end of an hour we saw a far-away town sleeping in a valley by a winding river; and beyond it on a hill, a vast gray fortress, with towers and turrets, the first I had ever seen out of a picture.

"Bridgeport?" said I, pointing.


"Camelot," said he."

(Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.)

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Poor Bridgeport.

Once a pinnacle of American production prowess--you have probably heard of the Bridgeport milling machine just to cite the obvious example--has fallen upon hard times with the decline of manufacturing and heavy industry in the US, All the problems of the cities in the Northeast--white flight, poverty, crime, drugs, corruption--you name it--all seem amplified tenfold in Bridgeport.

It is very sad to see, because the city has many attractive features including several good colleges and universities, a very high ratio of public spaces and parks, a great harbor, proximity to NYC and more.

I am not optimistic that I will see a renaissance in my lifetime, unfortunately.

Soundbounder
12-25-2013, 10:38 PM
I remember sailing over there when I was a kid. Guess things have changed.

Not sure how old you are, but Bridgeport was industrial even a century ago. And you'd probably have to go back to the Eisenhower era to find a time when it wasn't in decline. I can remember as a kid it was bad in the 1970's, and unlike many other small cities which declined in the 60-70s, it never rebounded during the past 25 years.

50-year-old editions of A Cruising Guide To The New England Coast describe it as "industrial, sooty, gritty" with little to offer other than protection in foul weather.

StevenBauer
12-25-2013, 11:14 PM
I don't think I've ever been to Bridgeport but my boat has. Talisman was launched there in 1959. Joel Johnson build larger yachts on commission and built the Ostkusts to fill in between larger jobs.

Talisman:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/Ostkust/img011.jpg

One of the larger boats he built was the Atkin designed Vixen, launched in 1952:

http://www.vixensvoyage.com/new-photos-of-vixen.html
http://www.vixensvoyage.com/old-photos-of-vixen.html

Mrleft8
12-26-2013, 08:29 AM
The home of PT Barnum, and his burial place.
A place that I avoid.

Figment
12-26-2013, 08:54 AM
The zoo is better than you might expect, especially if you dig having all sorts of peacocks and other funny-fowl wandering free.

Not quite sure why Family Guy gave the disgruntled Bridgeport resident a Cranston accent, though.

Breakaway
12-26-2013, 09:51 AM
Bridgeport waterfront, circa 1950( Image courtesy US Coast Guard)

http://www.uscg.mil/history/weblighthouses/bridgeportbkwtr.JPG

Willin'
12-26-2013, 10:13 AM
The zoo is better than you might expect, especially if you dig having all sorts of peacocks and other funny-fowl wandering free.

Not quite sure why Family Guy gave the disgruntled Bridgeport resident a Cranston accent, though.

The Beardsley Park Zoo was very cool. It was a good day hike from our house but we'd go there frequently in the summer. I remember getting beaten up on the playground regularly in 4th grade by kids that had already been held back several times. Worst place of the 6 towns we lived in growing up!

One good memory was that we used to go boating in our 15' Thompson on a reservoir called Indian Wells that wasn't too far out of town.

Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 10:36 AM
Bridgeport waterfront, circa 1950( Image courtesy US Coast Guard)



Tongue Point Light is still there, although it is not accessible.

Derecktor Shipyard recently closed their Bridgeport location.

Just east of downtown is an area known as Steel Point which had some working-class boat clubs along with two oyster companies. There was a plan to develop this land as a mixed use, shopping, residential, marina, office project. They did a good job of kicking out the oyster boats and boat clubs, but nothing ever materialized and the land remains vacant.

A bridge to a strip of land known as Pleasure Beach burned down decades ago and was never rebuilt. The homes along with an amusement park fell into disrepair and were demolished about 2 years ago.

West of the harbor entrance is Seaside Park which is a large, 19th-century, urban, waterfront park. Surprisingly, it appears well maintained and is quite attractive. Definitely worth a visit.

Most recreational boating takes place in nearby Black Rock Harbor, which has several clubs, marinas, etc

JBreeze
12-26-2013, 11:19 AM
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Not quite sure why Family Guy gave the disgruntled Bridgeport resident a Cranston accent, though.

Creaaanstun RI accent? Not quite, but close.

Seth MacFarlane grew up in Kent, CT and graduated from RISD (Providence RI)...he supposedly used a RISD Security Guard's voice as a model for Peter Griffin. The Bridgeport resident's voice might actually be MacFarlane's.

StevenBauer
12-26-2013, 11:24 AM
Black Rock is where Joel Johnson's yard was.

Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 12:15 PM
Tongue Point 2008:

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/picasa/august08soundbounder104-1.jpg

Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 12:35 PM
Derecktor's yard

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/picasa/august08soundbounder102.jpg

Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 01:42 PM
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/picasa/august08soundbounder099_zpsa3e5cdf8.jpg

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Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 01:53 PM
Steel Point
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/marchsoundbounder2010016_zps0d957d36.jpg

Burned remains of bridge to Pleasure Beach
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/august08soundbounder105_zpsc7119875.jpg

wardd
12-26-2013, 01:57 PM
http://hardinge.com/usr/images/milling/Series1.gif

Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 02:17 PM
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/picasa/DSC02801.jpg

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Reynard38
12-26-2013, 02:26 PM
http://hardinge.com/usr/images/milling/Series1.gif

They made great tools. A friend has one of their vertical mills. I helped him move all 3500 pounds of it in exchange for his old Rockwell mill (much smaller!)

Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 04:57 PM
The late great Steel Point oyster fleet 2009

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/DSC02792_zpscdb0e3f3.jpg

Soundbounder
12-26-2013, 05:49 PM
Seaside Park
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab79/Soundbounder/marchsoundbounder2010038_zps227cdf0c.jpg

David W Pratt
12-26-2013, 07:59 PM
I reviewed a couple of studies of the harbor mud for Save the Sound. Net, net, to dredge the harbor, they first have to go dredge a hole in LIS, move the harbor spoil there and cap it with clay.
Not just B'port's fault, lots of upstream mills, brass foundries, tanneries, etc.

Garret
12-26-2013, 09:45 PM
I was just in Bridgeport 2 weeks ago - though I grew up near there. I was at a manufacturing company that has fences with barbed wire, tight security, etc.

Sad, sad, decayed town. Just last year they tore down the old GE plant. Over 15,000 people worked in the 10+ buildings there back pre-WWII.

In fairness to Bridgeport, CT does decayed cities with the best of 'em: Ansonia-Derby, Torrington, Waterbury, many parts of New Haven, etc.

Gerarddm
12-26-2013, 10:52 PM
My sister graduated from University of Bridgeport in their nursing program. It later closed and was bought by the Moonies. Jeesh.

Figment
12-27-2013, 10:24 AM
I reviewed a couple of studies of the harbor mud for Save the Sound. Net, net, to dredge the harbor, they first have to go dredge a hole in LIS, move the harbor spoil there and cap it with clay.
Not just B'port's fault, lots of upstream mills, brass foundries, tanneries, etc.

Same deal for my old club in Branford, and IIRC same deal for the new haven harbor dredge a few years ago.

It's a tough sell, for me, that capping the polluted muck really makes a ton of difference after you've first dug it up through 10-25' of water and then dropped it down through 50-60' of water.

ahp
12-27-2013, 12:38 PM
Bridgeport has been called the city of jigs, tools and fixtures. It made stuff. The names that come to mind are: Bridgeport milling machines, every shop I knew had one or more, Rybestos Brake Linings, Bridgeport Brass, Jenkins Valve, Harvey Hubble (electrical controls), Square D (electrical controls, Lock Lawnmowers, and dozens or hundreds of job shops. Bridgeport was a city of "little makers".

Sikorsky Aircraft was close by and still is, and it was the home of the Great PT Barnum, and the winter home of his circus.

McMike
12-27-2013, 05:02 PM
I was just in Bridgeport 2 weeks ago - though I grew up near there. I was at a manufacturing company that has fences with barbed wire, tight security, etc.

Sad, sad, decayed town. Just last year they tore down the old GE plant. Over 15,000 people worked in the 10+ buildings there back pre-WWII.

In fairness to Bridgeport, CT does decayed cities with the best of 'em: Ansonia-Derby, Torrington, Waterbury, many parts of New Haven, etc.

Next time you're down this way I'd like to buy you a beer, let me know!

Garret
12-27-2013, 05:32 PM
Next time you're down this way I'd like to buy you a beer, let me know!

Well that'd be the best tasting beer there is! Will do. Aren't you Branford or thereabouts?