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flo-mo
12-12-2013, 11:33 AM
http://shetlandboat.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/introducing-the-shetland-boat/

From Marc Chivers' blog (15/10/2013):


Welcome to this blog, I hope you find it interesting and informative and I am looking forward to engaging with you on the subject of the Shetland boat. I am a postgraduate research student at the Centre for Nordic Studies (http://www.uhi.ac.uk/en/research-enterprise/cultural/centre-for-nordic-studies) in Shetland which is part of the University of the Highlands and Islands. (http://www.uhi.ac.uk/en) My partner, Rachel (or Rae as she is known to her friends) and I, moved to the Island of Burra in Shetland three weeks ago from Dartmouth in Devon.

In 2008 I undertook a nine month boat building course in Lyme Regis. Then in November 2010 I began work with Butler & Co, Traditional Wooden Boats (http://butlerandco.blogspot.co.uk/) (for more information about my boat building activities please visit marcsboats (http://marcsboats.co.uk/)).

This three year PhD is being funded by the Shetland Amenity Trust (http://www.shetlandamenity.org/) and Lerwick Port Authority. (http://www.lerwick-harbour.co.uk/) The purpose of this research project is to definitively place the Shetland boat in a historical, social, economic and cultural context.





So, over the forthcoming months I shall begin to develop this research project and post regularly on line. I will also be seeking your help to share with me any information published or otherwise you may have on this subject.

wizbang 13
12-12-2013, 01:56 PM
In 1960 something, my protege , Paul Johnson , crossed the Atlantic in a modified, ( rig,gaff ketch),18 foot Shetland boat. He was 16 or 18 At the time.
did I get that backwards? Protege? Am I his protege? I dunno.

Peerie Maa
12-12-2013, 02:02 PM
I'll follow this with interest.

slug
12-12-2013, 02:12 PM
Why the deep forefoot and full keel ?

keyhavenpotterer
12-12-2013, 02:13 PM
There are books with the boats in, but The Northern Isles: Orkney and Shetland by Alexander Fenton puts the boats and the people in context.

Ben Fuller
12-14-2013, 05:19 PM
One thread that would be really interesting is the discussion of importation of knock down boats from Norway. How long did this last? What was the shape of the "kits"?

Peerie Maa
12-14-2013, 05:42 PM
Why the deep forefoot and full keel ?The keel is because they are sailing craft. The stem and stern post are cut from the same template, so there is no "deep forefoot". The shape is perfected since the Viking era for sail.
Here is mine :D http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?103660-Idiot-proofing-Peerie-Maa

There are books with the boats in, but The Northern Isles: Orkney and Shetland by Alexander Fenton puts the boats and the people in context.

Adrian Osler did an excellent monograph in the National Maritime series. Report no 58 - 1983 ISBN 0905555 71 6.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shetland-Boat-Mainland-Maritime-monographs/dp/0905555716/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1387060938&sr=1-3&keywords=Adrian+g+osler

johnw
12-14-2013, 05:50 PM
In 1960 something, my protege , Paul Johnson , crossed the Atlantic in a modified, ( rig,gaff ketch),18 foot Shetland boat. He was 16 or 18 At the time.
did I get that backwards? Protege? Am I his protege? I dunno.

I guess it depends on who did the prodding. I think the word you were looking for was mentor.

That would be a crowded little boat for such a crossing, but once it's decked, plenty seaworthy.

Ben Fuller
12-15-2013, 07:46 AM
The keel is because they are sailing craft. The stem and stern post are cut from the same template, so there is no "deep forefoot". The shape is perfected since the Viking era for sail.
Here is mine :D http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?103660-Idiot-proofing-Peerie-Maa


Adrian Osler did an excellent monograph in the National Maritime series. Report no 58 - 1983 ISBN 0905555 71 6.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shetland-Boat-Mainland-Maritime-monographs/dp/0905555716/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1387060938&sr=1-3&keywords=Adrian+g+osler

The monographs are long out of print; 75 quid on the used market. I could copy mine if someone needs it.... all of this stuff should be redone as POD.

Thad
12-15-2013, 08:19 AM
In, I think, 2000, Willie Mowatt (Unst yole builder) and his wife Pam on a visit to America found their way to my shop in Marblehead where I had the pleasure of talking yoles with them and having a good excuse to go sailing in SEA HARMONY. A good time. Back in Unst they sent me a little book by Charles Sandison on Sixareens that is probably still available. Look for Willie.

wizbang 13
12-15-2013, 09:52 AM
MENTOR!!! Thank you John!

johnw
12-15-2013, 03:09 PM
MENTOR!!! Thank you John!

I have a hard time finding the right word myself sometimes.

johnw
12-15-2013, 03:13 PM
In, I think, 2000, Willie Mowatt (Unst yole builder) and his wife Pam on a visit to America found their way to my shop in Marblehead where I had the pleasure of talking yoles with them and having a good excuse to go sailing in SEA HARMONY. A good time. Back in Unst they sent me a little book by Charles Sandison on Sixareens that is probably still available. Look for Willie.

Doesn't look to me like it's in print, but there are a few copies that aren't too dear.

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?author=Charles+Sandison&title=racing&submit=Search&new_used=*&destination=us&currency=USD&binding=*&isbn=&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&classic=on&mode=advanced&st=sr&ac=qr

heimlaga
12-16-2013, 08:39 PM
I really like the hull shape of the Shetland boats..........
It is facinating to compare their hull shape with traditional boats from my area and find excactly the differenses that I expect to find based on the different sea conditions and the materials avaiable. Nothing more and nothing less.

Peerie Maa
12-17-2013, 03:24 PM
I was hoping to link to the photo archive of the build of the sixareen Vaila Mae on here http://www.shetland-museum.org.uk/boatShed/ but the website that hosts the photo collection is down.

David Cockey
12-19-2013, 02:00 PM
The best collection of traditional small boats on display in Shetland is in the Unst Boathaven on Unst, the northern most island.
http://www.unstheritage.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BH-leaflet.pdf
http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/unst/boathaven/
http://www.unstheritage.com/web/unst-boat-haven/

flo-mo
01-19-2016, 08:34 AM
A lot has happened in the last two years -- so have a look at Marc Chivers' blog (https://shetlandboat.wordpress.com/) or follow him on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shetlandboat?ref=bookmarks

Marc started documenting some boats for his PhD, for example the haddock boat the "Brothers" LK 96 built in 1888 by Davie Leask:

https://shetlandboat.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dsc_0001_276.jpg?w=450&h=299

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