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John Smith
10-18-2013, 08:08 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/18/2803381/ted-cruz-single-handedly-blocks-fcc-nominee-concerns-elections-transparent/

We can't have transparent elections.

Tom Montgomery
10-18-2013, 08:10 PM
Rafael Edward Cruz is beneath contempt.

I find it ironic that he has possibly the closest connection to communists of any legislator in Washington, D.C.

A conspiracy-minded, birther-inclined, liberal could easily wonder about the motivation behind his intention to dismantle the Federal Government. ;)
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Duncan Gibbs
10-19-2013, 06:02 AM
This guy makes McCarthy look noble and a towering intelligence by comparison. What's the chance he's gone in 2016?

SMARTINSEN
10-19-2013, 06:24 AM
What's the chance he's gone in 2016?

None. He might be one and done, with Tejas turning rapidly Blue, but he is in the Senate, and his term runs till 2018.

Better if you read the thread title as Ted Cruz: The Squeal.

Garret
10-19-2013, 07:44 AM
I know a lot of people think I'm out there to call these people traitors - but shouldn't people who do everything in their power to destroy our country at least get charged with treason? Can't the morons voting for him see that his goal is to sell our country down the river?

Full Tilt
10-19-2013, 07:51 AM
I know a lot of people think I'm out there to call these people traitors - but shouldn't people who do everything in their power to destroy our country at least get charged with treason? Can't the morons voting for him see that his goal is to sell our country down the river?

Are doctors 'murderers' for prescribing chemotherapy?

hokiefan
10-19-2013, 07:58 AM
I know a lot of people think I'm out there to call these people traitors - but shouldn't people who do everything in their power to destroy our country at least get charged with treason? Can't the morons voting for him see that his goal is to sell our country down the river?

While my emotional side really, really wants to agree with you; he was within the law with his vote. Part of our system means we don't agree with many of our Congress Critters, but they are still ours. What we need to accomplish is voting these numbnuts out of office. Sounds easy, huh...

S/V Laura Ellen
10-19-2013, 08:11 AM
Are doctors 'murderers' for prescribing chemotherapy?

Care to explain your comment in more detail?

Full Tilt
10-19-2013, 08:38 AM
Care to explain your comment in more detail?


The brinksmanship of the extreme right is not intended to destroy the country, just the current presidency.

Chemotherapy has the potential to destroy cancer cells but risks killing the patient at the same time.

The poison pill of belligerent non-cooperation risks irreparable damage for the purpose of extirpating Obama from power.

To suggest Ted Cruz' intention is to "destroy the country" is false.

I believe he and his ilk are desperate to get out from under the mantle of a black president.

hokiefan
10-19-2013, 08:43 AM
The brinksmanship of the extreme right is not intended to destroy the country, just the current presidency.

Chemotherapy has the potential to destroy cancer cells but risks killing the patient at the same time.

The poison pill of belligerent non-cooperation risks irreparable damage for the purpose of extirpating Obama from power.

To suggest Ted Cruz' intention is to "destroy the country" is false.

I believe he and his ilk are desperate to get out from under the mantle of a black president.

But to suggest he is willing to destroy the country (and the world economy) to hurt the President is beyond doubt. It is a fact that he he took step 1 of 2 towards that goal, and advocated step 2. Ted Cruz is beneath contempt.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 09:14 AM
The brinksmanship of the extreme right is not intended to destroy the country, just the current presidency.

Chemotherapy has the potential to destroy cancer cells but risks killing the patient at the same time.

The poison pill of belligerent non-cooperation risks irreparable damage for the purpose of extirpating Obama from power.

To suggest Ted Cruz' intention is to "destroy the country" is false.

I believe he and his ilk are desperate to get out from under the mantle of a black president.

I'm inclined to agree with the treason part. The Republicans, driven by the Tea Party, have openly declared their goal to be the failure of the president. I'm not sure how you separate the failure of the president from the failure of the country.

oznabrag
10-19-2013, 09:27 AM
Originally Posted by Full Tilt http://forum.woodenboat.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?p=3942443#post3942443)

The brinksmanship of the extreme right is not intended to destroy the country, just the current presidency.

Chemotherapy has the potential to destroy cancer cells but risks killing the patient at the same time.

The poison pill of belligerent non-cooperation risks irreparable damage for the purpose of extirpating Obama from power.

To suggest Ted Cruz' intention is to "destroy the country" is false.

I believe he and his ilk are desperate to get out from under the mantle of a black president.


But to suggest he is willing to destroy the country (and the world economy) to hurt the President is beyond doubt. It is a fact that he he took step 1 of 2 towards that goal, and advocated step 2. Ted Cruz is beneath contempt.

Thanks for quoting that person, Bobby. Otherwise I can't read his poison.

On this I think he is dead wrong.

Cruz et al, ARE out to destroy the US. The US Constitution is a tremendous obstacle to the style of governance their masters prefer.

The fact that the Constitution allowed an Irishman to become President is proof enough of that!

oznabrag
10-19-2013, 09:29 AM
I'm inclined to agree with the treason part. The Republicans, driven by the Tea Party, have openly declared their goal to be the failure of the president. I'm not sure how you separate the failure of the president from the failure of the country.

The openly stated goal of the Republicans has been to drown the government in the bathtub since before the Tea Party was even imagined.

Full Tilt
10-19-2013, 09:40 AM
Cruz et al, ARE out to destroy the US.

They must be workin' for the commies!

oznabrag
10-19-2013, 09:57 AM
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PhaseLockedLoop
10-19-2013, 09:59 AM
I'm inclined to agree with the treason part. The Republicans, driven by the Tea Party, have openly declared their goal to be the failure of the president. I'm not sure how you separate the failure of the president from the failure of the country.

Richard Nixon.

ccmanuals
10-19-2013, 10:05 AM
http://joeforamerica.com/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/

Full Tilt
10-19-2013, 10:07 AM
At Scot's request, I have added this 'person' to my ignore list.

There are only 4 others, 3 of whom don't post here any more.

Just me?

What an honour!

I'm tickled pink you are reminded of your inability to control yourself every time you read "This message is hidden because Full Tilt is on your ignore list", but

are you completely sure Scot didn't 'suggest' you put me on ignore as opposed to "request" you do so if you couldn't behave?

I can't imagine Administration dictating to whom one can choose to subscribe to, just how one responds.

Mike :d

Someone please quote me so 'this person' doesn't have to punch his keyboard needlessly.

Lew Barrett
10-19-2013, 10:11 AM
Part of our system means we don't agree with many of our Congress Critters, but they are still ours. .............

Hes not mine and I don't claim him Bobby as I am not from Texas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMhaehb5AnE

And even Glen, who is from Texas, told me privately Cruz isn't his either!
John can speak for himself!

Full Tilt
10-19-2013, 10:13 AM
http://joeforamerica.com/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/

How do you feel about this rubbish, Tom?

ccmanuals
10-19-2013, 10:22 AM
How do you feel about this rubbish, Tom?

I feel like this is the unspoken message of the tea party.

oznabrag
10-19-2013, 10:29 AM
Hes not mine and I don't claim him Bobby as I am not from Texas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMhaehb5AnE

And even Glen, who is from Texas, told me privately Cruz isn't his either!
John can speak for himself!

Indeed I can.

Cruz is a piece of poop.

Somebody upthread said that Texas is rapidly turning blue, and we all owe a debt of gratitude to that piece of poop.
As to you, Lew, "that's right, you're not from Texas, but Texas wants you anyway." :d

Full Tilt
10-19-2013, 10:39 AM
I feel like this is the unspoken message of the tea party.

That they also are racists in denial?

Gerarddm
10-19-2013, 10:46 AM
NYTimes has an article today noting that whilst Cruz is generally despised throughout the country, his stature in Texas is still riding high even now; which, the Times laconically notes, illustrates the divide between Texas and the rest of the country.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 10:48 AM
They must be workin' for the commies!

If you take a closer look at the parts of government they really don't like, you'll find they want to get rid of the EPA, they want no regulations on banks and Wall Street. The religious members are banning abortions and contraception wherever they can. The power brokers are tying to prevent those who would vote against them from voting.

Sadly, the Supreme Court seems to be on their side.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 10:49 AM
Richard Nixon.

If we had the Tea Party back then, Nixon would have kept his job.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 10:52 AM
NYTimes has an article today noting that whilst Cruz is generally despised throughout the country, his stature in Texas is still riding high even now; which, the Times laconically notes, illustrates the divide between Texas and the rest of the country.

I don't think there's any question he's seen as a hero to some.

Lew Barrett
10-19-2013, 11:47 AM
Indeed I can.

Cruz is a piece of poop.

Somebody upthread said that Texas is rapidly turning blue, and we all owe a debt of gratitude to that piece of poop.
As to you, Lew, "that's right, you're not from Texas, but Texas wants you anyway." :d

Lyle owns a Ducati dealership. "I'm so there!"

I'm thinking Austin :D

bobbys
10-19-2013, 11:56 AM
At Scot's request, I have added this 'person' to my ignore list.

There are only 4 others, 3 of whom don't post here any more..

O sure wadda yam i ? chopped liver?

Lew Barrett
10-19-2013, 12:03 PM
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O sure wadda yam i ? chopped liver?

No, No, No!

You're a roofer! Now let's get that straight!

oznabrag
10-19-2013, 12:03 PM
Lyle owns a Ducati dealership. "I'm so there!"

I'm thinking Austin :D


Come on down on the 9th of November, and we'll add some water to the soup!

Durnik
10-19-2013, 12:08 PM
http://joeforamerica.com/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/

Geeze, Tom, did you _have_ to throw that trash on the floor? ;-)

Ok, I went to the page. To save others from having it on their computer, here's the first line.


Wanting a white Republican president doesn’t make you racist, it just makes you American.

Riiiight. 'nuff said.


'cause some righties _still_ won't get it, eh bobbys?


BTW, -

I feel like this is the unspoken message of the tea party.

'Unspoken'?? It's what they say best & most!

enjoy
bobby

oznabrag
10-19-2013, 12:09 PM
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O sure wadda yam i ? chopped liver?

You don't rate the ignore list, bobbys.

I don't want to be reminded of how little self awareness you have whenever I see this:


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Hey! How about that new name Glen has for you, Bob BS? Pretty cool, I think!

bobbys
10-19-2013, 12:23 PM
You don't rate the ignore list, bobbys.

I don't want to be reminded of how little self awareness you have whenever I see this:



Hey! How about that new name Glen has for you, Bob BS? Pretty cool, I think!.

Thats better!

bobbys
10-19-2013, 12:26 PM
No, No, No!

You're a roofer! Now let's get that straight!.

Steep slope, although i have been known to go slumming with the hot tar crowd....

David G
10-19-2013, 12:28 PM
No, No, No!

You're a roofer! Now let's get that straight!

I always thought he was more of a "Woofer".

Peerie Maa
10-19-2013, 12:29 PM
Sadly, the Supreme Court seems to be on their side.

Well, they do owe a debt to their political patrons and the big money behind them, so why the surprise?

hokiefan
10-19-2013, 12:37 PM
If we had the Tea Party back then, Nixon would have kept his job.

Actually, if we had the Tea Party back then Nixon would have never been elected. He was left of everyone these days.

Durnik
10-19-2013, 12:49 PM
I always thought he was more of a "Woofer".

Quite a 'profession (http://www.hcn.org/wotr/how-can-woofers-stay-on-the-farm)'! ;-)

enjoy
bobby

David G
10-19-2013, 01:14 PM
Quite a 'profession (http://www.hcn.org/wotr/how-can-woofers-stay-on-the-farm)'! ;-)

enjoy
bobby

I can only for Alvin's sake that he does experience that level of satisfaction at SOME point in his life, and that it inspires him to climb out of the Rush/Fox/Hannity/Palin pit of hate, angst, and miserable seething resentment into the sunshine.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 01:22 PM
Actually, if we had the Tea Party back then Nixon would have never been elected. He was left of everyone these days.

There is that.

Full Tilt
10-19-2013, 01:26 PM
WTF is "sequal" anyways? Sugar substitute?

David G
10-19-2013, 01:37 PM
WTF is "sequal" anyways? Sugar substitute?

It's a typo. The OP was trying to spell 'sequel'.

You're welcome.

Oh wait... here's the definition of sequel:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sequel

You're welcome.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 01:43 PM
It's a typo. The OP was trying to spell 'sequel'.

You're welcome.

Oh wait... here's the definition of sequel:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sequel

You're welcome.

Sequels are usually another effort at doing something that worked well. Sequal is an appropriate typo. I guess it means doing something again that didn't work out so well the first time.

Garret
10-19-2013, 04:52 PM
Are doctors 'murderers' for prescribing chemotherapy?

You got close. Cruz & his ilk are a cancer & my personal preference for a cure would be a trial for treason.

I believe you are wrong when you say that they only want to remove this president. They want the country run by & for their corporate sponsors & are doing anything & will do anything to sell us out. Openly fighting transparency @ the FCC? How much more blatant can you get?

If someone from the Middle East performed an act that cost us 24 billion in lost revenue, they'd have a SEAL team after him in a heartbeat. I'd like to see that team hit Congress & capture those enemy combatants.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 04:55 PM
I can't seem to find my handy pocket constitution. Is there a procedure for impeaching a senator?

Of course, if we keep feeding him rope........

Garret
10-19-2013, 05:05 PM
I can't seem to find my handy pocket constitution. Is there a procedure for impeaching a senator?

Of course, if we keep feeding him rope........

Wikipedia:


The impeachment process is a two-step procedure. The House of Representatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) must first pass, by a simple majority of those present and voting, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations. Upon passage, the defendant has been "impeached". Next, the Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a president, the Chief Justice of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Justice_of_the_United_States) presides over the proceedings. For the impeachment of any other official, the Constitution is silent on who shall preside, suggesting that this role falls to the Senate's usual presiding officer. This may include the impeachment of the vice president, although legal theories suggest that allowing a defendant to be the judge in his own case would be a blatant conflict of interest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest). If the Vice President did not preside over an impeachment (of anyone besides the President), the duties would fall to the President pro tempore of the Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_pro_tempore_of_the_United_States_Senate) .
To convict the accused, a two-thirds majority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-thirds_majority) of the senators present is required. Conviction automatically removes the defendant from office. Following conviction, the Senate may vote to further punish the individual by barring him from holding future federal office, elected or appointed. Conviction by the Senate does not bar criminal prosecution. Even after an accused has left office, it is possible to impeach to disqualify the person from future office or from certain emoluments of his prior office (such as a pension). If there is no charge for which a two-thirds majority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-thirds_majority) of the senators present vote "guilty", the defendant is acquitted and no punishment is imposed.


So - we're SOL on that route.

John Smith
10-19-2013, 05:28 PM
Wikipedia:



So - we're SOL on that route.

Thanks. I wonder if that's a vote the Speaker can keep off the floor. Cruz may have so few friends the effort would be successful.

bobbys
10-19-2013, 06:11 PM
I can only for Alvin's sake that he does experience that level of satisfaction at SOME point in his life, and that it inspires him to climb out of the Rush/Fox/Hannity/Palin pit of hate, angst, and miserable seething resentment into the sunshine..

HHHMMM so what do you think about post 45?

bobbys
10-19-2013, 06:13 PM
Quite a 'profession (http://www.hcn.org/wotr/how-can-woofers-stay-on-the-farm)'! ;-)

enjoy
bobby.

Sacrilege.!

David G
10-19-2013, 06:22 PM
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HHHMMM so what do you think about post 45?

I think it was written by that other G fella. The one from Varmint. If you are confused about it, you should address questions to him. If he's not around, and you have a specific question, I MIGHT be able to help you, but you're always better off going directly to the source, eh? And... say... didn't you say you were going back to Clatsop Community College to get your GED? I applaud that move, as it is bound to do wonders for your reading comprehension - which always improves one's clarity of thought (which - I think we can all agree - would do you a world of good). Or - am I confusing you with Phillipe?

Garret
10-19-2013, 06:27 PM
I think it was written by that other G fella. The one from Varmint. If you are confused about it, you should address questions to him. If he's not around, and you have a specific question, I MIGHT be able to help you, but you're always better off going directly to the source, eh? And... say... didn't you say you were going back to Clatsop Community College to get your GED? I applaud that move, as it is bound to do wonders for your reading comprehension - which always improves one clarity of thought. Or - am I confusing you with Phillipe?

I think he wanted your opinion on what that varmint guy said..... I, for one, agree with him! Well, most of the time anyway ;)

bobbys
10-19-2013, 06:37 PM
I think it was written by that other G fella. The one from Varmint. If you are confused about it, you should address questions to him. If he's not around, and you have a specific question, I MIGHT be able to help you, but you're always better off going directly to the source, eh? And... say... didn't you say you were going back to Clatsop Community College to get your GED? I applaud that move, as it is bound to do wonders for your reading comprehension - which always improves one's clarity of thought (which - I think we can all agree - would do you a world of good). Or - am I confusing you with Phillipe?.

LOL, well i guess you told me off!.

I like it!

David G
10-19-2013, 06:42 PM
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LOL, well i guess you told me off!.

I like it!

So... how's that course coming?

Arizona Bay
10-19-2013, 07:10 PM
It seems the Cruzer may have been a little slick with the rules... but I can understand how 100k could slip his mind :rolleyes:

Ted Cruz failed to disclose ties to Caribbean Holding Company, which violates ethics committee rules



Time reports: (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/10/17/the-duggars-campaign-for-cuccinelli-ends-up-looking-like-an-audition-for-dumb-and-dumber/)
Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz potentially violated ethics rules by failing to publicly disclose his financial relationship with a Caribbean-based holding company during the 2012 campaign, a review of financial disclosure and company documents by TIME shows. The relationship originated with a $6,000 investment Cruz made more than a decade ago in a Jamaican private equity firm founded by his college roommate.
When Cruz later reported the financial relationship in 2013, he failed to comply with Senate rules requiring full identification of the holding company and its location, triggering an inquiry by Senate Select Committee on Ethics staff and a second amended disclosure. After additional inquiries by TIME this week, Cruz said he is now in the process making further corrections to his disclosure.

Cruz then received an inquiry from the Senate ethics committee staff about the listing, Cruz and his staff told TIME. The ethics staff told Cruz to amend his filing to indicate the nature of the promissory note, the entity that had issued it, the city in which the entity was located and the date the note had been issued.
Cruz did so in his Oct. 1 amendment, but that filing also contained errors, misnaming the holding company, incorrectly saying it was domiciled in Jamaica, and giving the wrong date for the promissory note. In the filing, Cruz, a former lawyer and magna cum laude graduate of Harvard Law School, lists a wide variety of assets held jointly with his wife, including mutual funds and blue chip stocks totaling between $1.5 million and $4 million. His wife is now an executive at Goldman Sachs.

David G
10-19-2013, 07:19 PM
Of course, I have very little use for Cruz at the moment. But... in starting to read the story, I began to think it was simply a matter of slight carelessness in filling out what are likely to be annoyingly complex forms... not an attempt at obfuscation. As I read further, his failed attempt to rectify the matter begins to read as either an attempt to disguise his holdings or contempt for the rules. Either way, he needs his knuckles rapped.

Arizona Bay
10-19-2013, 07:31 PM
I don't like gov. forms either, but wouldn't he have a lawyer or a minion to do things like that?

I think there should be a public spanking for a few of those folks... (like SP) :D

Durnik
10-19-2013, 09:01 PM
I can only for Alvin's sake that he does experience that level of satisfaction at SOME point in his life, and that it inspires him to climb out of the Rush/Fox/Hannity/Palin pit of hate, angst, and miserable seething resentment into the sunshine.

Hmmm.. I might point out to him there are a lot of hippie girls making the rounds.. most all of them better looking & a hell of a lot more fun than Ms Palin.. ;-0



I think there should be a public spanking for a few of those folks... (like SP) :D

Oh, lordy! Now you've gone & done it! ;-)

enjoy
bobby