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Jim Bow
09-06-2013, 04:51 PM
I have been to a couple of British car meets. Everybody polishes and shines and details their cars, except the Land Rover owners. They seem to prefer missing paint, cracked glass, and muddy tires.

Would you ever consider repainting a gem like this one?

http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/images/series2a.jpg

reddog
09-06-2013, 05:41 PM
Our 1964, 88 Series II was primer red, (read pink), with some fine dents. We used to amaze the onlookers at high school by starting it with the hand crank.

Earl

skuthorp
09-06-2013, 05:51 PM
Same colour as my old 88" series one, but I had a FG hard top. And it was waterproof!
Had done a quarter of a million miles by the time I passed it on again.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/fredz859/British%20Car%20Festival%20091210/2010_0911Digitalcamera0042.jpg (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/fredz859/media/British%20Car%20Festival%20091210/2010_0911Digitalcamera0042.jpg.html)

Portland
09-06-2013, 06:18 PM
What about this one ? http://www.remlr.com/perentie-civilian6x6.htm .
And these from my era in the army http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/othervehicles/landroverph_3.htm .
Rob J.

The Bigfella
09-06-2013, 06:22 PM
The guy in the shed next to mine has it chockers with old Landies. Last time I was out there, I helped him move a couple of diffs onto a trailer. He's only interested in the ones with the lights beside the radiator... not the ones in the guards.

I'd leave it unpolished....

Old Dryfoot
09-06-2013, 07:52 PM
Love the Defenders, can't see much use for the rest of the bunch myself.

Add on some bolt on portals, or a set of Volvo axles and you can go just about anyplace you want too. Mmmm... look at all the yummy portal clearance. :D

http://up.picr.de/3830888.jpg

http://up.picr.de/3830889.jpg

PeterSibley
09-07-2013, 01:43 AM
i have been to a couple of british car meets. Everybody polishes and shines and details their cars, except the land rover owners. They seem to prefer missing paint, cracked glass, and muddy tires.

Would you ever consider repainting a gem like this one?

http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/images/series2a.jpg

a 2a ??? Noooooooooo !!

skuthorp
09-07-2013, 04:02 AM
Polish a Land Rover? Never, I don't even wash my current 4WD.

OTOH I do know of a 1948/9 series one that has a mirror finish inside and out. Display only of course.
But this one doesn't look too bad, and it's for sale.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/land_rover/3997003.jpg
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C419186

AnalogKid
09-07-2013, 05:23 AM
I like a bit of patina on a Landy. I polished mine once to try and get rid of the sun-oxidised paint, didn't really like the effort or the result although it did show up the dent down the entire drivers side nicely. (from getting too close to a sawn off tea-tree branch)

I've a love/hate relationship with them now. Can't wait to be rid of my 110 now I don't use it as intended. Still the most fun I've ever had in a car was with that Defender, both on and off road, but it was also thoroughly depressing to own. For a while it was best described as a rolling renovation,now it's not even that. I would love a series IIa 88" as a play thing, but probably won't bother because it would be too hard to justify.

PeterSibley
09-07-2013, 05:26 AM
You want a 2A ??!!! :confused::D

skuthorp
09-07-2013, 05:35 AM
My old girl went all over Aus. Replacement gearbox and two spare diffs from a wreck dug out of a creek near Innaminka, 2nd winch from a roadside wreck, eventually a new 4 cyl engine and axles from a crashed army LR. Chassis welded up under a tree with two batteries (always carried two) and a kelloggs box as a mask.

Portland
09-07-2013, 05:42 AM
In SVN the LWB landrovers used to have a ton of sandbags on the floor .
Get a few blokes in it with all their gear , going flat strap (don't use the clutch) and the beastie got a bit of a pounding.
I was in one where the driver was complaining about the "back end steering".
It turned out the chassis was badly broken.
But it was still going !.
Rob j.

PeterSibley
09-07-2013, 05:46 AM
Much as I liked Series 1s the sooner you could get one of these the better .

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/1964_Nissan_Patrol_L60_Soft_Top_4x4_Front_1.jpg

skuthorp
09-07-2013, 07:01 AM
Much as I liked Series 1s the sooner you could get one of these the better .

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/1964_Nissan_Patrol_L60_Soft_Top_4x4_Front_1.jpg

Knew a girl with one of those. Fuel guzzler and rusted as you looked at them. But a real goer with that big engine.

PeterSibley
09-07-2013, 07:07 AM
All the stations in Northern SA bought them as soon as they came out, no rust up there, no rain either .

Rum_Pirate
09-07-2013, 09:37 AM
I have been to a couple of British car meets. Everybody polishes and shines and details their cars, except the Land Rover owners. They seem to prefer missing paint, cracked glass, and muddy tires.

Would you ever consider repainting a gem like this one?

http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/images/series2a.jpg


Sure, that one has barely been run in.

Isn't that a Series IIA 109 (wheel base) ?

jonboy
09-07-2013, 09:47 AM
the main reason there's so many still around is the aluminium body.

reddog
09-07-2013, 09:49 AM
I was always told you couldn't polish a tu*d....

My SIII :
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GTD9upauIdA/UEb9ZHePuiI/AAAAAAAAA4k/LWGZn0ZpxdA/s1600/DSC_0927+(2).jpg

... is and never wil be repainted.

As far as Land Rovers go, I've found that everything above the axles is crap; everything below isn't too bad.

Steaming some new frames for the Landy AR? :d

Earl

Paul Pless
09-07-2013, 10:32 AM
I was always told you couldn't polish a tu*d....

Bloody brilliant!

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18uzh7dd6sqk5jpg/original.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18uzh7dd5ny7ljpg/original.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18uzh7hbdn7spjpg/ku-medium.jpghttp://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18uzh7ddcbn04jpg/original.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18uzh7hba4rsvjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

Rum_Pirate
09-07-2013, 10:56 AM
The Bell Aurens Longnose V8

(Carp sound)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhyQI1i3-8

Rum_Pirate
09-07-2013, 10:57 AM
Take a walk around the incredible Bell Aurens Longnose V8,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO4JxWT3bS4

reddog
09-07-2013, 01:21 PM
The Bell Aurens Longnose V8

(Carp sound)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhyQI1i3-8

Looks like the Jeepster Commando. Good in the parking lot but needs a good thrashing in the dirt. Bring 'er over and we'll try out some woods roads.

Earl

jonboy
09-07-2013, 03:36 PM
It started with a '56 88" series one.... 1600 cc side valve piece of carp. it was a tool for the smallholding....desperate fuel consumption, gutless but never got stuck anywhere. capstan winch on the front, serious lump of RSJ for a rear member. Came across a bloke , Harry Philips maybe, 30 years ago who sold conversion plates for the saloon rover 3.5 V8....150 and a couple days work....instant monster!!!better fuel consumption, would snig whole trees out of the hollow in English winters, pull a trailer with thirty sheep like it wasn't there, so impressed I fitted range rover diffs and had a serious tool but with brakes designed in 1940....good fun though... sold it to a trials fanatic and bought a late seventies Range Rover, the last of the entirely vinyl interiors...you could pressure wash it inside and out and but what a dog in other ways.. back to horrendous mpg, even with central locking diff and permanent 4X it got bogged in more times than I care to remember. The only advantage was you could lock the doors!
Since had Jeeps, Patrols, Subarus, a Daihatsu ... and the Patrol, 4.2 straight six was the only thing that ever came close to the landy...but died from terminal rustitus

tempted by a Safari LWB recently, but my heart belongs to the pre 60s basic models...

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-07-2013, 03:50 PM
I was always told you couldn't polish a tu*d....
....

But you can roll it in glitter.

The Bigfella
09-08-2013, 02:49 AM
A couple of my (shed) neighbour's old Landies... with a few spare bits loaded on. He's got another 8 or so in his shed

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Third/IMG_0279_zps09dc9aea.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/igatenby/media/Third/IMG_0279_zps09dc9aea.jpg.html)

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Third/IMG_0278_zpsfa059612.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/igatenby/media/Third/IMG_0278_zpsfa059612.jpg.html)

skuthorp
09-08-2013, 03:54 AM
Time for a story? We picked up an English hitch hiker on a trip to Cape York (the pointy bit at the top of Australia) and somewhere on the way up we crossed a river. Being a Series 1 doors pinned back to the guards to reduce resistance as we forded the river. The water level was almost up to seat level in the truck. As I drove in 2 crocs on the opposite bank splashed in as well. My passenger panicked, climbed on the roof shouting and pointing. I nearly fell out myself laughing.

Nicholas Scheuer
09-08-2013, 06:53 AM
Are Land Rovers really any good as rugged, rough terrain vehicles? I've never been in one. The only Land Rovers we see in N Illinois (mostly around Chicago suburbs) are driven by snooty "upwardly mobile" who probably believe their LR's roll over bodies lying in the road better. I remember a mechanic once telling me to never get an English sports car unless a mechanic came with it. (We were looking at a Triumph in his garage at the time.)

skuthorp
09-08-2013, 07:03 AM
My old landy could, reputedly, be disassembled and reassembled with just a few spanners and a couple of screwdrivers. I drove for 2 months with a mixture of soap and thin porridge in the system because of a cracked head. Fixed a blown welsh plug with a Gidgee stick and 2 part epoxy which was still working fine 3 years later. Tough buggers, Rangies not so but then they wernt really designed for real rough stuff.
This series one was acquired locally to assist in the Darrien Gap Expedition 1971-72
http://www.range-rover-classic.com/_/rsrc/1322905842540/Home/range-rover-darien-gap/1972%20Land-Rover%20Darien%20Gap.jpg

http://www.range-rover-classic.com/Home/range-rover-darien-gap

reddog
09-08-2013, 10:06 AM
I once knew a guy out in BC with a '59 Series I. He said he could pretty well fix anything on it with a rock and a stick. I remember one time his distributor assembly came loose and detached itself. When he put it back he mistakenly assembled it 180 degrees to where it was supposed to be but the damn thing still ran. Not well but it got him home. The Lucas electrics on our '64 was always fun to deal with but relatively simple to work on.

Earl

Rum_Pirate
09-08-2013, 11:25 AM
I once knew a guy out in BC with a '59 Series I. He said he could pretty well fix anything on it with a rock and a stick. I remember one time his distributor assembly came loose and detached itself. When he put it back he mistakenly assembled it 180 degrees to where it was supposed to be but the damn thing still ran. Not well but it got him home. The Lucas electrics on our '64 was always fun to deal with but relatively simple to work on.

Earl

The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."


Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness"

Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF.

The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.

Lucas dip-switch positions: LOW and BLOW (Bruce Miller, www.hermit.cc (http://www.hermit.cc))

The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.

"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...

If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.

Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.

It's not true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.

Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"

Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.

Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Lucas engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.

Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas made the refrigerators, too.

Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone. Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.

Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: check the position of the stars, kill a chicken and walk three times sunwise around your car chanting: "Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant."

Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.

How to make AIDS disappear? Give it a Lucas parts number.

Recently, Lucas won out over Bosch to supply the electrical for the new Volkswagens. So, now the cars from the Black Forest will come with electrics supplied by the Lord of Darkness -- how appropriate!

Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices.

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2008/08/Lucas-Electrical-System-Jokes.jpg



http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/Humor/fuses1.jpg (http://www.mez.co.uk/fusereplacement.jpg)

reddog
09-08-2013, 01:12 PM
The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."


Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness"

Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF.

The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.

Lucas dip-switch positions: LOW and BLOW (Bruce Miller, www.hermit.cc (http://www.hermit.cc))

The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.

"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...

If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.

Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.

It's not true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.

Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"

Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.

Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Lucas engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.

Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas made the refrigerators, too.

Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone. Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.

Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: check the position of the stars, kill a chicken and walk three times sunwise around your car chanting: "Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant."

Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.

How to make AIDS disappear? Give it a Lucas parts number.

Recently, Lucas won out over Bosch to supply the electrical for the new Volkswagens. So, now the cars from the Black Forest will come with electrics supplied by the Lord of Darkness -- how appropriate!

Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices.

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2008/08/Lucas-Electrical-System-Jokes.jpg



http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/Humor/fuses1.jpg (http://www.mez.co.uk/fusereplacement.jpg)




:d Lucas, Prince of darkness.

Earl

AnalogKid
09-08-2013, 02:57 PM
This series one was acquired locally to assist in the Darrien Gap Expedition 1971-72
http://www.range-rover-classic.com/_/rsrc/1322905842540/Home/range-rover-darien-gap/1972%20Land-Rover%20Darien%20Gap.jpg

http://www.range-rover-classic.com/Home/range-rover-darien-gap

Thats a series 2 or 3, you can see the curve of the wider lower body where the front wing is caved in by the firewall.

AnalogKid
09-08-2013, 03:16 PM
Are Land Rovers really any good as rugged, rough terrain vehicles? I've never been in one. The only Land Rovers we see in N Illinois (mostly around Chicago suburbs) are driven by snooty "upwardly mobile" who probably believe their LR's roll over bodies lying in the road better. I remember a mechanic once telling me to never get an English sports car unless a mechanic came with it. (We were looking at a Triumph in his garage at the time.)

In the UK you can buy pretty much any part for any model to make them serious off-road machines, from trials to enduro racing, pretty much the same way Jeeps are catered for in the US.

Lots are used on legal unmade roads for fairly gentle off-roading and that doesn't really challenge them. But I've been on trips in NZ that has included pretty much every mark of every model LR has produced, with some of the Japanese competition along for the ride also. The early leaf-sprung models are amazingly capable considering the complete lack of sophistication, and are equally easy to fix. The early coil-sprung models also do pretty well. It's partly to do with tyres and the condition of the suspension, but the biggest single factor by far is the ability of the driver.

There was one guy who brought along a second generation P38 Range Rover and he got up stuff with all-terrain tyres that others were really struggling with on mud-terrains, because of his traction control and a 4.6 V8. I never felt my 2,5 Tdi was underpowered in the UK, but I did on many occasions in NZ because the ground is often much steeper and the hills are longer.

On another meet on sand, a guy brought along a brand new Discovery 3. It was OK at the mild stuff, but when he really tried to go for it the electronics were too easily fooled, and the ride height dropped because the sensors thought he was going over 80 km/h and then he bellied out in the soft sand.

The early coil-sprung models - Discovery 1 and II, Ninety/One-Ten/Defender and Range Rover Classic are much comfier on the road, but the bare-bones basicness of the series LRs makes them not necessarily more reliable but more bush-fixable and affordable, and I prefer the lack of driver aids. So not using it as an everyday driver that's why I'd have a short wheel base Series IIa, but as an on-road/off-road compromise, my Defender 110 was great.

skuthorp
09-08-2013, 04:08 PM
My cousin runs a series 2A with a 202 slant 6 and military spec running gear. Older Landy's are good like that, you can bolt newer bits on older models. But stay away from Indian built transfer cases.