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davebrown
08-08-2013, 12:21 AM
I am going to a family reunion in PA next week, about 2 hours away, according to Google, from the CBMM. I have looked it up and it is, if I am correct, in St. Michaels. I am particularly interested in seeing the Bessie Lee, a build I have started and mostly given up on for a more svelte sister. I wrote three emails to the CBMM and got one reply: "I don't know where the BL is". THat was disconcerting. I then sent a Facebook message on the CBMM site and got an "I''ll look into it" reply . Whether I see the BL or not I want to go, and I want to go the small craft exhibits. Anyone who has been have some advice? Is there more than one site for displays? Thanks in advance.

davebrown
08-08-2013, 12:22 AM
A second question would be, any rowboats or smallish sailboats to rent either near or out of the museum?

MN Dave
08-08-2013, 02:39 AM
Maybe if you sent them a picture taken in 2012... at the museum?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JApQwuY0Kus/UHn8wPv-HNI/AAAAAAAAHjA/jSGTIcaT2u0/s1600/mas19.jpg

holzbt
08-08-2013, 06:56 AM
Well worth the trip. And as the photo above shows, Bessie Lee is right in the middle of the small craft building. She' be hard to miss.

SMARTINSEN
08-08-2013, 07:33 AM
The person to talk to is Rich Schofield. He is the assistant curator for watercraft, the former lead shipright, and a good guy.

rscofield@cbmm.org

Eddiebou
08-08-2013, 07:43 AM
It's dark in some of those buildings. You might want to bring a small flashlight and measuring tape, as well as a notepad, in addition to your camera. Just keep saying to yourself, "I'm not gonna build a log canoe." Repeat as necessary.
St. Micheals is a scenic, quaint little town. You could easily spend a couple of days there between the museum, the marinas, restaurants, shops, etc. Don't short yourself on time. The B&B's might be booked up but Easton is close by.

andrewdarius
08-08-2013, 10:48 AM
I'll second that it's a great little town. Very walkable if you want to leave your car at the CBMM. Multiple buildings, with some exhibits more static than others, so I can understand the comment that the individual wasn't so sure if the BL is currently on view. Not all employees have access to the databases that keep track of the collections. Just to whet the appetite;http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1ce25b3127ccefe1c8a550f2600000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020111005020806263.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9ce24b3127ccef81e471724da00000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020091005175433773.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9ce24b3127ccef81e1438644400000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020091005175415095.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7ce36b3127ccec23773bf389800000010O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020071017132208434.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7ce36b3127ccec236ed2d993900000010O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020071017131703042.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7ce36b3127ccec236632e997d00000010O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020071017132400548.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

davebrown
08-08-2013, 03:10 PM
Very exciting! Any more pics?

andrewdarius
08-08-2013, 03:58 PM
I think this is Rick Scofield's melonseed, which is sometimes launched during MASCF. For some crazy reason, this forum posting window doesn't accept my return keystrokes...anyone else experiencing this? My posts are all over the place because of this!! Also included is my version of BL, showing a different installation in the background.http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d725b3127ccec55d845b609000000040O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020080904125007699.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7ce36b3127ccec236d465d9f500000010O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020071017131847911.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Eddiebou
08-09-2013, 10:37 AM
Is that "Marianne" in the bottom left of post #7? She's a beaut!

andrewdarius
08-09-2013, 10:45 AM
Marianne should be the smaller red-bottomed one. The larger one might be the Edmee S. Edmee S pictured below at rest. Interesting to watch them raise the rig while in the water.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9ce24b3127ccef81e471ca5e100000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020091005175503564.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/

andrewdarius
08-09-2013, 11:09 AM
Wooden boat enthusiasts should know that this boat will be put up for auction at their annual gathering Labor Day weekend. Check out the CBMM site for details.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1ce25b3127ccefe1c8a550f2600000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00108388645020111005020806263.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/

SBrookman
08-09-2013, 06:03 PM
Dave, Sorry can't find any pictures, but it is worth the trip. Great blue crabs and beer right outside the gate. If you're interested in building a melonseed, Marc Barto is there to pick his brains. ELF (http://www.cyrg.org/news.htm) could be there, and you might get a chance for a sail.

davebrown
08-10-2013, 01:37 AM
Any interesting place to stay betwixt Philadelphia and St. Michaels? Like maybe Chestertown? I know nothing about it--just looked at Google maps. I think I will fly into Philly and then go to St. Michaels the next morning. So a point about halfway for a hotel would cut the drive. I am traveling with my 3 year old boy, who would rather be tortured by Al Qiada than ride in a car for two hours.

SBrookman
08-10-2013, 06:55 AM
Of course in Philly there is the ISM:
http://stevebrookman.com/images/ISM.jpg
Then a stop in Annapolis would be about 2 hours away, LOTS of boats there and a walk through Boat School (Naval Academy) is great. Some of the best maritime models anywhere are there.

andrewdarius
08-12-2013, 08:49 AM
Chestertown is a nice little town too. In the Fall they have a Downrigging Weekend, and you can find a bit more info on the town here;

http://sultanaprojects.org/downrigging/

davebrown
08-12-2013, 05:02 PM
I am so excited i went out and bought a new camera.

S.V. Airlie
08-12-2013, 05:11 PM
I've always liked this museum. Always sailed over to St. Michaels and tied up there. Uncas had some issues with her new engine way back when ( I told the yard there was a problem with the starter but, the yard pooh poohed me) and I had to leave her for two weeks! The museum never charged me for the slip during that time. Told me that Uncas was right at home there and not a problem being a 1948 Hinckley. Gave them a donation...My father assisted in the museum's start up as well and thought the admin was doing a great job..
If you go to Oxford, say hello to Cheney and Rummy!:)

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:22 AM
I had a mere four days for the trip Out East, but it was jam packed. The best adventure I had was in Long Island sailing with Tom and Roger, but I will post pictures and remarks about that in a separate thread. The CBMM was great, great, great with one exception: the f'ing lawyers have f'd it up s you can only row on Saturdays. I was there on Monday. The boats were in the water, the oars and etc. were stored only a few feet away, and Nope, you can't row unless it's Saturday, because we only have insurance one day a week. Damn. My boy is standing on an 18 ft replica of a Skipjack. Despite the truncated version, the ratios were kept pretty close so it is a nice little V bottom sailboat. https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1000584_10201262147148206_212262703_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:24 AM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1097975_10201262153268359_1501010610_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:26 AM
The massive chunk forefoot of the Rosie Parks, which has been under refurbishment for quite a while. https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1239463_10201262157068454_1001431976_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:28 AM
A skiff model that shows, in its simplest form, the deadrise forefoot:https://sphotos-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/17483_10201262162388587_522270648_n.jpg

skuthorp
08-23-2013, 01:28 AM
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?166654-Chesapeake-Bay-Maritime-Museum-Auction

Take your wallet.:cool:

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:32 AM
A model of Lark, a 20 ft. crab skiff. I didn't see the fullsize boat but the model was enough to inspire me to buy plans. Maybe after a stretched Fiddlehead double, a rowing wherry from a half hull, a Haven 12.5, and the build(s) I am on right now. https://sphotos-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1236441_10201262165468664_479376670_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:34 AM
A very elegant railbird skiff, according to the placard. This boat appeared to be round bottomed, and the rail bird skiffs I have read about all appeared to be more like a flat bottomed bateaux...but that is what they are calling it:https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/1238116_10201262170068779_351839209_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:35 AM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1175098_10201262172548841_384946187_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:37 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558839_10201262177828973_842143007_n.jpgIt's a work boat, but look at that lovely snout.

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:38 AM
https://sphotos-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1175123_10201262183149106_1902342457_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:46 AM
My ulterior motive for visiting the CBMM, aside from my obsession with crab skiffs, was the Bessie Lee. I took numerous photographs but partly because of lighting and partly because of the other gawkers, I don't feel I got any better photos than those at the beginning of this thread. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1236735_10201262201229558_422373246_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:52 AM
https://sphotos-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1187039_10201262209349761_1786059619_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:52 AM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/1150883_10201262218589992_1183701046_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:54 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/999120_10201262222070079_1797813107_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 01:56 AM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/1237004_10201262225350161_1795831476_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:01 AM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1146671_10201262236150431_139664827_n.jpgA really, really good looking "skiff"--Yankee--which I think was about a 24x6 workboat...what a hull! Again I didn't get great photos of this boat but just look at that stern! I didn't catch whether this boat is actually a Potomac Dory.

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:04 AM
Just look at this prom queen:https://sphotos-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1235286_10201262244030628_1312503798_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:09 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/1237498_10201262254310885_1177742198_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:12 AM
R. Baker North Shore Dingy, and in the background a Stambough 15 ft. skiff. Behind that, you can just see the stem of Ghost.

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:13 AM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1002891_10201262259151006_712617748_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:17 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/1185864_10201262268031228_42460736_n.jpgchunk forefoot on Ghost, from interior. man, this is traditional deadrise buiding!

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:22 AM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1186118_10201262276231433_1083207602_n.jpgI didn't catch his name, but knowledgeable young feller building a log canoe from a carved model. I think he was building Magic. Here is Fly;https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/1157485_10201262281071554_305132766_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:24 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1186097_10201262285991677_1485003572_n.jpg

davebrown
08-23-2013, 02:25 AM
Well I have lots more, if anyone is so interested. https://sphotos-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/p480x480/1236181_10201262288991752_367120358_n.jpg

Eddiebou
08-23-2013, 07:38 AM
I knew you'd love the boats there! Spat is a pretty thing, huh? And Fly? Old Point is a log built hull. She was a crab dredger, not just a "buy-boat". The rail skiffs got my attention, too. I had to build one- what a fun little boat to pole through the marsh. The Yankee skiff is not a potomac dory at all. They were built around Staten Island ,etc. and brought here. I've seriously considered building one, but….And I had forgotten Ghost- She's a close cousin of Katie-K. Thanks for posting these pics.

davebrown
08-23-2013, 10:49 AM
I had not heard of Yankee before Eddie--wow--what a hull! But that would not be a fast build. I also bought three other plans, including Lark.

Breakaway
08-23-2013, 11:44 AM
I had not heard of Yankee before Eddie--wow--what a hull! But that would not be a fast build. I also bought three other plans, including Lark.

John Gardner wrote at length about the Yankee ( aka, Staten Island) Skiff


Kevin

Draketail
08-23-2013, 05:01 PM
The CBMM is a wonderful place! Besides all sorts of neat work boats to look at, the staff is also wextremely helpful. They were all very kind to me during the 5 year build of my draketail work boat, MISS SUE.

Hunky Dory
08-23-2013, 09:20 PM
Thanks for posting all your pics, Now I have to plan a trip down next year around the MASBF. I have an old friend in Easton that I need to visit too.


Bob

Eddiebou
08-23-2013, 09:26 PM
Just a little thread drift, here. I must not have the J. Gardner book with the Yankee skiff in it. I thought Pete Culler did a version of the staten island skiff. At any rate, these certainly are an intriguing hull. A lot of old timers around the bay remember these boats. I have only seen 2. They seem like they'd be great to row out to a close oyster bar and tong up 20 or 30 bushels and bring 'em home. They seem too large and burdensome for a recreational rowboat. This is why I didn't pursue this build- went more in the Whitehall/Wherry direction. I'd like to do it, but abandonded that build,too. I've caught a lot of fish this summer, carved and painted a dozen dove decoys, and dove season is right around the corner, then rail season, teal season, wood duck season…..

davebrown
08-26-2013, 04:03 PM
Fall in the South, Eddie! Some of the best times in my life were hunting in South Carolina. I don't hunt anymore, but i will never forget those times. I haven't fished one time this year. Rehabbed a shack but I am back on the road with my build.

Thad Van Gilder
08-26-2013, 04:09 PM
2 hours south of Pa? im in the middle of chester county (downingtown area) and it takes me 3!!!

Bill Perkins
08-26-2013, 07:28 PM
Just look at this prom queen: https://sphotos-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1235286_10201262244030628_1312503798_n.jpg Yeah ; nice nose ring . Culler's version is scaled down to 16ft. 7in. by 4ft. 11 by 1 ft. 7in.

Ben Fuller
08-26-2013, 08:25 PM
A very elegant railbird skiff, according to the placard. This boat appeared to be round bottomed, and the rail bird skiffs I have read about all appeared to be more like a flat bottomed bateaux...but that is what they are calling it:https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/1238116_10201262170068779_351839209_n.jpg

This is one version, the simplest ,of the Delaware ducker and a very nice one indeed. Have a look at Eakins Starting out After Rail for the sailing version of this one, then imagine it with decks for the full blown version.

Ben Fuller
08-26-2013, 08:29 PM
https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1146671_10201262236150431_139664827_n.jpgA really, really good looking "skiff"--Yankee--which I think was about a 24x6 workboat...what a hull! Again I didn't get great photos of this boat but just look at that stern! I didn't catch whether this boat is actually a Potomac Dory.

This is indeed a Yankee skiff aka Staten Island oyster skiff; a bunch of them were imported to the Bay from New York and two ( to my knowledge ) survive. There is another one at the Mariners Museum. These were built like Jersey seabright skiffs with a built down stern and flat bottom board.

Bill Perkins
08-26-2013, 10:31 PM
This is one version, the simplest ,of the Delaware ducker and a very nice one indeed. Have a look at Eakins Starting out After Rail for the sailing version of this one, then imagine it with decks for the full blown version.

When I first saw this boat at the museum years ago she was labeled as a Ducker ,and I thought she was the finest I'd seen .

Mhawley
08-26-2013, 10:54 PM
I was there the Saturday before you with my kids, we had a great time. Sailed in late so we only got an hour on the grounds but they had a blast. Sailing there from Annapolis and at the museum! great time had by all.
We were anchored out in the boats behind them.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8IBagOinZyQ/UhwUkEgH5hI/AAAAAAAAIMQ/lTO8LsKctaw/w642-h856-no/photo.jpg
and one more from happy hour.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ssI8djINI2Q/UhwU3gpEXSI/AAAAAAAAIMY/UCdBVgfh6IQ/w1024-h768-no/photo.jpg