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Rum_Pirate
08-07-2013, 09:07 AM
Day before yesterday at Shipwreck Bar Friar's Bay. I was at home.


This fairly large shark (look at length between fin and tail :D) came in made a pass, then came round again.
A large stingray decided to try and run for it. He even leapt out of the water in effort to escape.
Moments just after splashing back in there was a large red pool of blood. !!!


The shark left.


A few minutes later, it came back made a pass along the beach then headed off.


There were swimmers chest deep in the water just looking as the 'ray' incident.


There were three on a little floating raft, who were 'rescued' by a chap on a kayak.


Apologies for poor quality of pics..
They were taken by phone and then put on Facebook, copied from there and emailed, then downloaded, then uploaded to Photobucket then posted here.:cool:




http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/Rum_Pirate/Sharkshipwreck5-8-13_zpsb2452371.jpg


A bit enlarged


http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/Rum_Pirate/Sharkclose_zps59ede509.jpg

Phillip Allen
08-07-2013, 09:55 AM
must be the people who think the government is gonna protect them... lots of them here in the bilge

Gerarddm
08-07-2013, 10:36 AM
Typical, Phillip. And so boring.

Jack Aubrey opined that sharks are "mostly gammon", but I'd err on the side of prudence and get the hell out of the water there pronto.

Rich Jones
08-07-2013, 10:37 AM
Think I'll stick to swimming in fresh water...

ccmanuals
08-07-2013, 10:39 AM
I'm never leaving the pool. ;)

Mrleft8
08-07-2013, 03:57 PM
Bah! Big deal..... Sharks are like Coyotes. They don't really want to bite anything that might fight back.
I've been in water with millions of them..... Not real close, but millions and millions were in the water at the same time, and I still have most of my appendages....

John of Phoenix
08-07-2013, 04:14 PM
Bah! Big deal..... Sharks are like Coyotes. They don't really want to bite anything that might fight back.
I've been in water with millions of them..... Not real close, but millions and millions were in the water at the same time, and I still have most of my appendages....But overweight women in high heels - there's a threat to feared!

SMARTINSEN
08-07-2013, 06:52 PM
Bull sharks, freshwater rivers are probably too cold that far north, not here in the Chesapeake, and they like humons.

http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39640&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1283349798 (http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39640&d=1283349798)

Near Solomons MD in 2010

hokiefan
08-07-2013, 07:25 PM
A couple years ago my son and I were surf fishing one morning. He caught a small black-tip shark, about 14", and I was taking it off the hook as two ladies walked by. They stopped and asked what we caught so we told them and showed them the little shark.

"Sharks!!! There are sharks here? We were just swimming a few minutes ago."

"Well, this guy is really little. See, I can't even get my thumb in his mouth." And we proceeded to put him back. The ladies relaxed and went on with their walk.

"We won't tell them about the 4-1/2 foot one the guy caught here yesterday, will we?" The kid just laughed and gave his rig a heave back out in the waves.

Cheers,

Bobby

John B
08-07-2013, 07:44 PM
We've been seeing a lot more shark over the last few years, mostly Bronze whalers and mako. We've learnt that there's a particular bay that we frequent that always seems to have mako hanging around. We found that out first just after the kids had climbed out of the water at the back of the boat and a Mako of about 2.5 to 3 metres speared out of the water and breached about 10 ft off the bow, it was just amazing. Watched it for 10 minutes, as it swam under other boats and those other guys swore it was nearer 3 m , 10 ft , than 2.4 or 8ft.

hel..lllo fella.. this is another one in 2012, same bay though.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Cruise%202012/IMG_0665_3.jpg (http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Waione_photos/media/Cruise%202012/IMG_0665_3.jpg.html)


a bronze whaler this last cruise in jan.. They just mooch around , we'd been fishing so it'd come in for a look.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Cruise%202013/IMG_3093_13.jpg (http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Waione_photos/media/Cruise%202013/IMG_3093_13.jpg.html)



Incidentally , the orca population here hunt stingrays as their main food source ( apparently) and we've seen some amazing action by those things. They're so dam big.
Not these ones though , a couple of babies coming out the other side of the boat

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Cruise%202013/IMG_2648_14.jpg (http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Waione_photos/media/Cruise%202013/IMG_2648_14.jpg.html)

they run grid patterns and scour out a bay at a time . The big momma didn't come to close to us but gave some people in a launch a couple of boats away a free heart check.

ccmanuals
08-07-2013, 07:48 PM
When I was stationed in Panama we used to fish of Panama city by the Island of Tobago. We would see virtually thousands of sharks.

Apparently boats would anchor near Tobago waiting to enter the Canal and dump their garbage in the water drawing the sharks.

Lew Barrett
08-07-2013, 08:16 PM
We've been seeing a lot more shark over the last few years, mostly Bronze whalers and mako. We've learnt that there's a particular bay that we frequent that always seems to have mako hanging around. We found that out first just after the kids had climbed out of the water at the back of the boat and a Mako of about 2.5 to 3 metres speared out of the water and breached about 10 ft off the bow, it was just amazing. Watched it for 10 minutes, as it swam under other boats and those other guys swore it was nearer 3 m , 10 ft , than 2.4 or 8ft.

hel..lllo fella.. this is another one in 2012, same bay though.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Cruise%202012/IMG_0665_3.jpg (http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Waione_photos/media/Cruise%202012/IMG_0665_3.jpg.html)


a bronze whaler this last cruise in jan.. They just mooch around , we'd been fishing so it'd come in for a look.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Cruise%202013/IMG_3093_13.jpg (http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Waione_photos/media/Cruise%202013/IMG_3093_13.jpg.html)



Incidentally , the orca population here hunt stingrays as their main food source ( apparently) and we've seen some amazing action by those things. They're so dam big.
Not these ones though , a couple of babies coming out the other side of the boat

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Cruise%202013/IMG_2648_14.jpg (http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Waione_photos/media/Cruise%202013/IMG_2648_14.jpg.html)

they run grid patterns and scour out a bay at a time . The big momma didn't come to close to us but gave some people in a launch a couple of boats away a free heart check.

Fascinating and fantastic. Thanks, John. You have the most amazing creatures in your waters.

The Bigfella
08-07-2013, 09:13 PM
Great photo, thanks. I reckon the water'd turn brown pretty soon after that shot



Then there's these things.... this one's just about to crunch on a bit of meat (the blurry bit in front of her nose) we'd thrown her.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Cape%20and%20Asia/croc1.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/igatenby/media/Cape%20and%20Asia/croc1.jpg.html)

She's a bit of a tiddler... only 8' long and the reasonably friendly variety in the fresh water. The salties aren't so friendly.

Breakaway
08-07-2013, 10:58 PM
They're sharks. They live in the sea.
Once a year or two ago, a surf fisherman caught a shark, like Bobby said a few posts up. Though a bit bigger. A passerby/tourist/beachcomber witnessed this, called 911 on the cell phone and then proudly walked up to the angler to report that all was in control, because the " authorities had been alerted."

Sheesh.

Kevin

hokiefan
08-07-2013, 11:06 PM
They're sharks. They live in the sea.
Once a year or two ago, a surf fisherman caught a shark, like Bobby said a few posts up. Though a bit bigger. A passerby/tourist/beachcomber witnessed this, called 911 on the cell phone and then proudly walked up to the angler to report that all was in control, because the " authorities had been alerted."

Sheesh.

Kevin

A tourist for sure...

skuthorp
08-08-2013, 05:50 AM
We get tigers and white pointers round here. There are seal and little penguin colonies in the vicinity.
In my late teens when I was a lifesaver I swum out to a bloke swimming beyond the break to tell him there was a shark nearby. I think I thought I was invincible, kids………………….

62816inBerlin
08-08-2013, 07:03 AM
In the 12 years I lived in Trinidad there was one shark "incident" as far as I remember: a fisherman was injured (bitten) when extricating a biggish shark from his net.
Although we saw sharks off the beach occasionally, there were no swimmer attacks. I guess that in the Caribbean, sharks do not catch things in the surf as there are no seals etc. that they normally learn to feed on elsewhere, so that mammals (including humans) do not qualify as "food".

;-{) Gernot H.

62816inBerlin
08-08-2013, 07:11 AM
To qualify my statement above, I refer to this article (http://www.islands.com/articles/truth-about-caribbean-sharks).

Quote: >>>The Bahamas, with its huge amount of coastline and larger tourist and resident populations, has recorded more attacks than any other Caribbean destination - still only 35 since 1896 - while the rest of the region averages less than one attack each year. .. <<<< (and not all were fatal, I assume).
How many people are killed by humans with guns in the USA alone annually ?? How many die in traffic accidents world-wide ?
Still, it is silly to go swimming if there happens to be a big shark feeding in the vicinity and you know about it !

skuthorp
08-08-2013, 08:31 AM
To qualify my statement above, I refer to this article (http://www.islands.com/articles/truth-about-caribbean-sharks).

Quote: >>>The Bahamas, with its huge amount of coastline and larger tourist and resident populations, has recorded more attacks than any other Caribbean destination - still only 35 since 1896 - while the rest of the region averages less than one attack each year. .. <<<< (and not all were fatal, I assume).
How many people are killed by humans with guns in the USA alone annually ?? How many die in traffic accidents world-wide ?
Still, it is silly to go swimming if there happens to be a big shark feeding in the vicinity and you know about it !
That's not really relevant on this topic, cars are far more dangerous than sharks or crocodiles for that matter, so are kitchens and much other normal domestic stuff. It's just that nowadays people are not comfortable with still being part of the food chain, and not always being the top predator.

62816inBerlin
08-08-2013, 03:08 PM
Around these parts the biggest mistake is to go swimming early in the morning or at dusk and later. ..... I'd go body surfing, I was more worried about the Ovalipes ocellatus. .....

AWW . Just a lil crab ?
quote (Wikipedia) " The carapace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carapace) of O. ocellatus is slightly wider than long, at 8.9 centimetres (3.5 in) wide,[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovalipes_ocellatus#cite_note-Pollock-3) and 7.5 cm (3.0 in) long.[4] " (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovalipes_ocellatus#cite_note-Kaplan-4)

as far as our place in the food chain is concerned, do Ovalipes ocellatus make good eating ;-{) ?

Cheers,
Gernot H.

Phil Y
08-08-2013, 04:40 PM
I thought this was going to be about older ladies at nudist beaches

John B
08-08-2013, 05:10 PM
Unfortunately we've had the first fatality from a shark attack in something like 30 years, and that earlier one was debatable as to whether it was death by shark attack, or whether it was scavenging after an accident.
It happened earlier this year, was horrific on all sorts of levels, and its still seems a bit unclear as to why or what sort of animal was initially responsible.
The last information I read was that it may have been a great white followed by 2 bronze whalers, or it may have been the bronze whalers. Most people including myself were reluctant to accept that it might have been the bronze whalers/
Pretty terrifying , we've been close to bronzies a lot. I've watched a big one swim under Kirsty and my youngest who were lying on a paddleboard about 20 ft off the boat. ...and I've told the story of the 9 footer that came up behind and within 2 ft of a friend dipping off the boarding ladder of her boat before. She qualified for the olympic gymnastics team right there and then........9.1 for the somersault and a 10 for the dismount.

Like all shark I regard them with respect , don't want to be in the water with them but bronzies? they're everywhere . If they wanted us we'd have 200... 500 deaths a year. Not 1 ,or possibly 2 in the last 30 or 50 years.

pefjr
08-08-2013, 05:22 PM
To qualify my statement above, I refer to this article (http://www.islands.com/articles/truth-about-caribbean-sharks).

Quote: >>>The Bahamas, with its huge amount of coastline and larger tourist and resident populations, has recorded more attacks than any other Caribbean destination - still only 35 since 1896 - while the rest of the region averages less than one attack each year. .. <<<< (and not all were fatal, I assume).
How many people are killed by humans with guns in the USA alone annually ?? How many die in traffic accidents world-wide ?
Still, it is silly to go swimming if there happens to be a big shark feeding in the vicinity and you know about it !As I remember two spear fishing scuba divers disappeared in two separate cases in 20 years I was in the Keys. Evidence pointed to sharks. I was pestered by Barracuda constantly spearfishing, but only once by a small 3' aggressive shark. Barracuda took fingers, toes or sometimes a hand but no deaths. Portuguese Man of War probably killed more than all the others.

skuthorp
08-08-2013, 05:54 PM
"As I remember two spear fishing scuba divers disappeared in two separate cases in 20 years I was in the Keys. Evidence pointed to sharks."
That seems fair, both parties hunting for a meal.

bamamick
08-08-2013, 07:43 PM
We have sharks. We have 'gators. My approach to all of it is pretty simple: stay in the dang boat. They have their place and I have mine and that's seemed to have worked for a long time now.

I was at a dinghy regatta one time in Muscle Shoals, Alabama, pulling my boat out, and a nice-sized moccasin came sliding up towards me, and this lady started acting all crazy and yelling and all. I took the tiller and scooped him up and tossed him out of the way and went about my business. Geez. I made a deal with God a long time ago, and I am not going to get killed by any snake, or a skeeter or any kind of bug, period. I did not include sharks and alligators in the agreement, though. So I have to be a little more careful around them. :)

Mickey Lake

sleek
08-13-2013, 11:06 PM
You are more likely to be killed by a human than a shark. Fear the humans.