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Jim Bow
08-03-2013, 05:57 PM
Jargon: "Special words or expressions that are used by a particular profession or group and are difficult for others to understand."

Which has the more obtuse jargon, Gun Guys, Sailors, or Gearheads (Petrolheads in the U.K.)?

Ian McColgin
08-03-2013, 06:15 PM
Everyone fancies their own language as clear, accurate, unambiguous, and filled with important distinctions. But that's actually only true of sailors. The others wander from jargon to babble.

CWSmith
08-03-2013, 06:47 PM
Most jargon is just specialized words outside the daily realm. Would you want a surgeon who says "that round pinky thing"? The real problem, in my view, is when new words are used to describe old ideas or weak thinking.

Peerie Maa
08-03-2013, 06:48 PM
Sailors use clear terminology, the others are just showing off.

Captain Intrepid
08-03-2013, 07:03 PM
Superficially gun guys, simply because of the limited number of people who are familiar with guns compared to cars and boats.

However, when you get into the really esoteric stuff, it's probably sailors, just for the sheer quantity of it. Just think of something like taking a sight. LHA, GHA, SHA, SA, OA, AA, TA, and CA, v corr, d corr, dip, IE, HP, LL, UL, MP, ITP, LOP, Mer Pass, d'long, d'lat, departure, azimuths, amplitudes, haversines (if you want to go real oldschool), GMT, LMT, mean solar time, apparent solar time, the equation of time, etc etc. Astro nav has a whole jargon to itself. Hull design, another language, wooden boat building a third, sailing tactics a fourth, meteorology a fifth. It's a simply colossal amount of information, even if you're just looking at the special terms used in it.

Keith Wilson
08-03-2013, 09:08 PM
Arrrrg! Belay the timinoggy!!

cathouse willy
08-03-2013, 10:06 PM
Don't forget the military....... fubar and snafu to start.

Phillip Allen
08-03-2013, 10:15 PM
anyone who understands and uses Victorian English (occasionally)
Today, I got into trouble for using the word ‘fey’

I use words like 'anachronistic’ on a construction site and it baffles people

Captain Intrepid
08-03-2013, 10:18 PM
"Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the VP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States) is such a VIP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_Important_Person), shouldn't we keep the PC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_conferences) on the QT (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/on_the_Q.T.)? 'Cause if it leaks to the VC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong) he could end up MIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_in_action), and then we'd all be put on KP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KP_duty)."

Full Tilt
08-03-2013, 11:01 PM
Everyone fancies their own language as clear, accurate, unambiguous, and filled with important distinctions. But that's actually only true of sailors. The others wander from jargon to babble.
:D aye

Full Tilt
08-03-2013, 11:06 PM
Today, I got into trouble for using the word ‘fey’

"My Officer but you're looking fey today."

Phillip Allen
08-03-2013, 11:08 PM
"My Officer but you're looking fey today."

I see that you understand... :) (don't make any 'furtive' moves and maybe he won't shoot you)

Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
08-03-2013, 11:17 PM
How's this for obtuse?






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ

hokiefan
08-04-2013, 12:21 AM
Every industry has their own set of jargon. To me some of the worst are environmental regulations, they have acronyms based on acronyms. For example there is the MON MACT regulation.

Miscellaneous Organic NESHAP Maximum Attainable Control Technology.

Makes perfect sense, except what the heck is a NESHAP???

Turns out it is National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants. Oh yeah, everyone knows that.

Actually a rather sensible law, except it isn't applied equally to all industries. Oh well, not gonna get started on that rant today...

Cheers,

Bobby

Peerie Maa
08-04-2013, 05:10 AM
Superficially gun guys, simply because of the limited number of people who are familiar with guns compared to cars and boats.

However, when you get into the really esoteric stuff, it's probably sailors, just for the sheer quantity of it. Just think of something like taking a sight. LHA, GHA, SHA, SA, OA, AA, TA, and CA, v corr, d corr, dip, IE, HP, LL, UL, MP, ITP, LOP, Mer Pass, d'long, d'lat, departure, azimuths, amplitudes, haversines (if you want to go real oldschool), GMT, LMT, mean solar time, apparent solar time, the equation of time, etc etc. Astro nav has a whole jargon to itself. Hull design, another language, wooden boat building a third, sailing tactics a fourth, meteorology a fifth. It's a simply colossal amount of information, even if you're just looking at the special terms used in it.

That's all maths and physics, universal language for those with an education. :p

David W Pratt
08-04-2013, 07:01 AM
#5, don't forget sails and rigging

Captain Intrepid
08-04-2013, 07:07 AM
That's all maths and physics, universal language for those with an education. :p

Taken far enough, everything is just applied maths. ;)

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png

hokiefan
08-04-2013, 07:10 AM
Taken far enough, everything is just applied maths. ;)

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png

And engineering is just applied physics & math with enough reality to actually accomplish something.

Cheers,

Bobby

Captain Intrepid
08-04-2013, 07:20 AM
And engineering is just applied physics & math with enough reality to actually accomplish something.

Cheers,

Bobby

The mouseover on the original page says "Of course physicists like to say that physics is to math as sex is to masturbation." What would that make engineering, a wine soaked orgy?

tizziec
08-04-2013, 07:24 AM
I guess none of you hav ever heard a minecraft conversation between two 12 year olds.... holy greek batman!!!!!! Can't understand a word of it LOL

Canoez
08-04-2013, 07:27 AM
When I started at my current job, I was taking to a co-worker about a project and he referred to it by it's acronym. When I asked what the acronym referred to he spat back an alphabet soup of other words that meant little to me at the time. It was mostly in English but for one word which seemed unfamiliar. "Oh - that's another acronym and means ...." It reached a level of ludicrousity this year when a project was an acronym of acronyms three layers deep.

hokiefan
08-04-2013, 07:40 AM
The mouseover on the original page says "Of course physicists like to say that physics is to math as sex is to masturbation." What would that make engineering, a wine soaked orgy?

While the physicists and the mathematicians argue, the engineers build stuff...