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Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 05:16 AM
I've got this rifle that beats me up and I'm trying to do a work-around (I like the rifle)

Curtism
07-27-2013, 05:18 AM
Is that like a reach-around?

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 05:22 AM
my young football playing grandson (16) wanted to shoot it. I told him that it would beat him up but he didn't believe me... one shot and he went back to shooting the .308... 2 hours later he was still complaining about his shoulder :)

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 05:23 AM
I'm loading it down to black powder velocites... I think it will help

seanz
07-27-2013, 05:39 AM
I've got this rifle that beats me up........

So if Obama took it away, he'd really be doing you a favor. Right?





































:)

BrianW
07-27-2013, 06:02 AM
When testing loads for accuracy, there's nothing wrong with a recoil reducing rifle rest. I'm sure you could make one. Just check out a few of the ones on the market already.

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 06:06 AM
I have a strap-on recoil pad... it works pretty well... other than that, a bag of shot

the main thing to remember is to keep my fingers outside the lever

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 06:09 AM
If I were trying to change a brown bears mind... recoil would be negligible. I’d stand my ground but afterwards would need a change of trousers. (and maybe some baby-wipes)

Paul Pless
07-27-2013, 06:17 AM
link (http://www.magnaport.com/)

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 06:23 AM
no porting for me, thanks... too loud and it destroys the gun's visual appeal... too many gimcracks and geegaws these days... keep it simple.

I consider that stuff as being for townies who also buy hundred dollar walking sticks from slick salesmen.

Paul Pless
07-27-2013, 06:26 AM
link (http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/rws.html)

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 06:28 AM
I told you that I got wimpy in my old age... or maybe less focused on my 'manly parts'

Paul Pless
07-27-2013, 06:39 AM
I'm not particularly recoil shy, but I have my limits of what I shoot for pleasure at the range. Shotguns, even 10 gauge don't bother me at all. Large caliber handguns .44, .45 and larger are fine as long as the gun is large framed with a reasonable barrel. I have a S&W Mountain Gun in .44 magnum and it will rap the hell out of your trigger finger. I'm good with rifles up to .375 H&H scoped with no problem. Short and long barreled .45-70's no problem either. But much bigger than that, especially in hi pressure cartridges I really don't much care to shoot for 'fun'. I have a friend with a .416 Rigby and I distinctly do not like shooting it. Does this make me a wimp?

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 06:45 AM
nope... I don't think so...

I had a Ruger #1 is 45-70 once and it was pleasant to shoot with very heavy loads
My 1895 Marlin will hurt you with light loads... something about the general shape I guess... the Ruger was lighter

Ruger=22" bbl
Marlin=26" bbl
I don't have any measurments to compare beyond that

BrianW
07-27-2013, 08:30 AM
I have a friend with a .416 Rigby and I distinctly do not like shooting it. Does this make me a wimp?

No.

But the Volvo is not doing you any favors.

:D

coelacanth2
07-27-2013, 10:22 AM
What rifle and what loads, Philip? If its an 1895 with the 26" barrel that is a lovely gun ( I have one).

David W Pratt
07-27-2013, 11:14 AM
.454?
I've got one, lever gun. Had it sighted in and the recoil loosened the tights, got to do it all over with Loc-Tite

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 12:52 PM
No.

But the Volvo is not doing you any favors.

:D

any car named after body parts... (rolling eyes)

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 12:55 PM
What rifle and what loads, Philip? If its an 1895 with the 26" barrel that is a lovely gun ( I have one).

octogon bbl 1895 Marlin
trying Varget and 3031 this morning with light loads... my cast 351 grain bullet... heat treated to about 30 brinell hardness... maybe a little less

3031 looks promising but need to tweek the method a bit

Reynard38
07-27-2013, 12:57 PM
My daughter and I went yesterday.
No wind at the lake, good day to shoot.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w16/Reynard38/4a29c718e8b047108551251a02b30e72.jpg

Oysterhouse
07-27-2013, 02:27 PM
The Wooden Boat Forum meets Fetlife----------


that beats me up and I'm trying to do a work-around


Is that like a reach-around?


2 hours later he was still complaining about his shoulder


I have a strap-on... it works pretty well...


I’d stand my ground but afterwards would need a change of trousers. (and maybe some baby-wipes)


I consider that stuff as being for townies who also buy hundred dollar walking sticks from slick salesmen.


I told you that I got wimpy in my old age... or maybe less focused on my 'manly parts'


I'm not particularly recoil shy, but I have my limits of what I shoot for pleasure


Marlin will hurt you with light loads... something about the general shape I guess...


Does this make me a wimp?


No.But the Volvo is


that is a lovely gun ( I have one).


Had it sighted in and the recoil loosened the tights


after body parts... (rolling eyes)


looks promising but need to tweek the method a bit


If it wasn't for the gutter my mind would be homeless.

( One Quote from every post above)

Reynard38
07-27-2013, 03:06 PM
And I thought my mind was in the gutter.....

LeeG
07-27-2013, 06:12 PM
No.

But the Volvo is not doing you any favors.

:D

Two points!

S.V. Airlie
07-27-2013, 06:15 PM
I've got this rifle that beats me up and I'm trying to do a work-around (I like the rifle)How about doing some excercize instead of shooting a gun a a target Phillip. Might do your weight problem some real good.

Phillip Allen
07-27-2013, 06:40 PM
The Wooden Boat Forum meets Fetlife----------

































( One Quote from every post above)

you must have learned that out of context technique of cherry picking from Bigfella... :)

The Bigfella
07-27-2013, 08:11 PM
you must have learned that out of context technique of cherry picking from Bigfella... :)


You still smart about NEVER being able to prove that, don't you? I'll take your failure to do so as evidence of your IQ.

Hurts more than the shoulder, does it?

Come on Phillip... post up this "out of context technique of cherry picking from Bigfella", or get off the pot.

Oysterhouse
07-27-2013, 08:47 PM
you must have learned that out of context technique of cherry picking from Bigfella... :)

Naw------This thread lurched toward the gutter at post #2. I just mashed the gas and steered toward the ditch!

Renard38

And I thought my mind was in the gutter.....

my mind was in a place lower than a gutter--It was in the Bilge.

Phillip Allen
07-28-2013, 09:33 AM
going over the range results

the IMR powder looks best but I'm going to add:
powder plus
.030 card plus
9.5 grains of dry Malto-Meal plus
.030 card plus
351.5 grain bullet

crimp-all

I got one nice little ragged hole at 75 yards for one group before my shoulder began to effect the shooting.

another limitation is that I need bright light to shoot well

Paul Pless
07-28-2013, 09:53 AM
another limitation is that I need bright light to shoot wella nice big khales, with a 4A reticle will fix that for ya. . .

http://images1.opticsplanet.com/365-240-ffffff/opplanet-kahles-kx-3-9x42-riflescopes-2.jpg

:D

BrianW
07-28-2013, 10:38 AM
octogon bbl 1895 Marlin
trying Varget and 3031 this morning with light loads... my cast 351 grain bullet... heat treated to about 30 brinell hardness... maybe a little less

3031 looks promising but need to tweek the method a bit

You can send the unused Varget to me. I've got an AR which could use some.

;)

BrianW
07-28-2013, 10:39 AM
In fact, I've got some IMR 3031 I'd trade.

Now... what to do about that nasty postmaster?

Paul Pless
07-28-2013, 10:47 AM
Now... what to do about that nasty postmaster?
obviously you should meet in person and have an EBS while you're at it. Failing that, Fedex. . .