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Ed Harrow
07-10-2004, 08:01 AM
I'm uncertain as to what I'm to disclose, but here is Margo's request:

"Please post a prayer request on the Forum. Specifically pray that he doesn't suffer and that God brings me wisdom to deal with what I must and
comfort for his daughters Kristy and Angi.

Thanks.

- M"

I'm not exactly the praying type, but we'll be pulling for you in Woodville.

"Your friend is your needs answered.
He is your field which you sow with love and reap with thanksgiving.
And he is your board and your fireside.
For you come to him with your hunger, and you seak him for peace.

For it is his to fill your need, but not your emptiness.
For in hte dew of little things the heart finds its morning and is refreshed."

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imported_Daniel
07-10-2004, 08:20 AM
Certainly, consider it done, and best wishes.

imported_Steven Bauer
07-10-2004, 08:29 AM
Done.

Steven

Ian McColgin
07-10-2004, 08:32 AM
There are many tough steps before you gain peace. We pray you all keep on.

rbgarr
07-10-2004, 08:34 AM
My prayers go with Margo, Dave and both daughters.

The seventh Concordia yawl of the summer came into the harbor last evening in the midst of a downpour and picked up a rental mooring. On my way upstairs to bed I looked out at the moored fleet and could just make out the lights from the Concordia's cabin portholes. I thought of how cozy those boats are on a night like last night, and then of Dave and Margo and how hard they have been working to enjoy such pleasures. God be with them all.

Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
07-10-2004, 08:37 AM
Consider yourself hugged.
Prayers sent.

Donn
07-10-2004, 08:40 AM
http://www.embellishments.us/images/spiritual/praying%20hands.jpg

LisaS
07-10-2004, 08:42 AM
Margo -

I wish you all strength, compassion, and wisdom during this dark time. . .

Lisa

Ross M
07-10-2004, 09:06 AM
I am so sorry, Margo.

Ross

paladin
07-10-2004, 09:12 AM
My prayers don't seem to help much lately so I have enlisted the aid of little brother and his entire congregation with everyones most heartfelt prayers for you and yours.......

Wayne Jeffers
07-10-2004, 09:21 AM
Prayers from Southeast Ohio

Wayne

Leon m
07-10-2004, 09:29 AM
prayers from here ...

Jack Heinlen
07-10-2004, 09:30 AM
Mine too Margo.

Jack

Bruce G
07-10-2004, 10:47 AM
I pray the Lord guides and comforts you both.

Bruce

Beowolf
07-10-2004, 10:56 AM
You're in my thoughts and prayers as well.

Jeff

Memphis Mike
07-10-2004, 10:57 AM
Prayers sent from Memphis Margo and Dave.

Mike and Sue

Wild Dingo
07-10-2004, 11:06 AM
aaw geez Margo... twer only 4 days ago I heard from you that Dave was doin okay... just putzin around doin a bit of this and that you said

All I can say is... Hang tight Margo... I know youve got family and freinds near you but were down here thinking of you both with warm hearts for friends so far away... you love each other with a warmth thats strong and full be still a moment and smile with each other just a moment is all thats needed... its special

Whatever happens Dave Be at peace mate

Hug the girls and be there for each other.
And if down the track a bit you need a break downunders waiting with open hearts

:(

Art Read
07-10-2004, 11:16 AM
So sorry to hear this Margo. We're pulling for you.

John of Phoenix
07-10-2004, 11:49 AM
Peace and strength to you and yours.

bamamick
07-10-2004, 11:56 AM
I will remember you all in my prayers. May God bless and keep you.

Mickey Lake

Meerkat
07-10-2004, 12:07 PM
What's wrong - is there anything we can do? :(

km gresham
07-10-2004, 12:14 PM
So very sorry to hear this, Margo! :( :( Our prayers are with all of you. Karen and Charles

Hughman
07-10-2004, 12:16 PM
Prayers to both of you. :(

Mike Field
07-10-2004, 12:21 PM
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As Dingo said Margo, the Downunders are all pulling for you.
.

Dave Fleming
07-10-2004, 12:36 PM
Oh Margo!

Our Thoughts are with you both.

SWIMPAL and me

Mrleft8
07-10-2004, 12:39 PM
(((((((((((Geers))))))))))) :( :(

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True Love
07-10-2004, 12:58 PM
God's blessing on you both. I will be praying for you all daily. You are treasures and we love and appreciate the both of you.

imported_Conrad
07-10-2004, 02:22 PM
Prayers for all- may God's grace and love surprise and restore all of you during this time.

Chris Coose
07-10-2004, 02:24 PM
I was out hauling traps after reading this. I stopped the engine and sat calmly for a few minutes.

Great sadness.

SUE H
07-10-2004, 02:29 PM
Margo, I know Mike's already said it, but I wanted to add a personal note.
You and Dave are special people & you know you can count on our prayers. We'll all be here for you when you need us.

Bob Perkins
07-10-2004, 03:36 PM
Best Wishes..

:( Bob

adampet
07-10-2004, 04:53 PM
Margo,
Our thoughts are with you.
Be at peace.
Adam

htom
07-10-2004, 04:57 PM
Prayers and best wishes for all of you, Margo, Dave, and daughters.

High C
07-10-2004, 05:01 PM
Prayers from the swamp, God bless you both.
:(

huisjen
07-10-2004, 05:07 PM
:(

Rich VanValkenburg
07-10-2004, 05:17 PM
I was aware of his situation, at least from a year ago. I've also been dreading this.

God bless you both and give you strength.

Rich VanValkenburg

reddog
07-10-2004, 06:19 PM
Prayers from here also.

formerlyknownasprince
07-10-2004, 06:57 PM
Our best wishes are with you. Think of the good times.

Ian

holzbt
07-10-2004, 07:03 PM
My prayers are with you. :(

Hwyl
07-10-2004, 07:03 PM
Margo and Dave please accept all the support you've given to us over the years coming back at you but multiplied thousands of times, and for all time.

Gareth

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Ken Hutchins
07-10-2004, 07:55 PM
Sincere prayers from New Hampshire.

ken mcclure
07-10-2004, 08:18 PM
For once I am at a complete loss for words.

Margo and Dave, I pray for your strength. I pray for your peace. I pray that you find within you what you need to get through this.

Concordia..41
07-10-2004, 10:30 PM
Thanks all. One and all and I mean that. Today has varied between tolerable and better – certainly in part to the prayers from our friends here.

In a nutshell. Dave was diagnosed with Stage IV Lung Cancer in December of 2001. We’d known for a few days, but December 24, 2001, was the first meeting with the oncologist. When Dave was told his worst-case scenario was 6-8 weeks of life left, he calmly told the doctor that that just wouldn’t work because, “I’ve got a boat to put back together.”

He sought out and tolerated the most aggressive chemotherapy and radiation regimes and for a disease where life expectancies really are measured by weeks, we’ve had 30 months. Even better than that, while there have been peaks and valleys and he’s tolerated unspeakable pain and misery, the overwhelming majority of these past two and a half years have been good.

We chose not to share it on the Forum because one day right in the beginning I was researching different chemo drugs and clinical trials and getting information like 21 weeks for this combination, 24 weeks for that but I had two windows open. One to the Forum and one where I was doing the research. When things were just too difficult to absorb, I’d click back on the Forum for a few minutes. Anyway, Dave walked in the room, saw the research I’d printed in the printer and the Forum on the screen and said something along the lines of “Christ, you didn’t put it on the Forum did you?” I assured him I hadn’t, and while it was just a split second thing, I always honored his wishes.

Now that didn’t include private e-mails and phone calls and the word has gradually gotten around.

Where we are now: Dave has never given up and is still undergoing chemotherapy. He chose to be admitted to the hospital on Wednesday because he was dehydrated and there was a chance of a low grade infection, possibly pneumonia that they could best treat with IV antibiotics and pump him full of fluids and nutrition and get him back up to par. He turned out to have a very aggressive pneumonia and despite a barrage of drugs, he just didn’t pick up like they wanted Thursday and something dramatic happened Friday night and he ended up in respiratory distress.

He had a living will, but there were some variables – too much to go into here – but in all the excitement they brought out the crash cart and put him on a ventilator. After he was stable, I signed a DNR as to CPR and the like, but the doctors advise to leave him on the ventilator for a few days to see how the pneumonia responds and how he does.

Today held several unplesantries, but they finally got his medication as to pain relief and sedation regulated and by midday he was finally resting comfortably. This evening he’s breathing slightly along with the ventilator and continuing to rest comfortably.

I’m getting quite picky with the prayer requests, but what we’re hoping for now is that they can get the pneumonia under control and get him off the ventilator long enough to have a little bit of peace without all of the tubes and trauma to his body. Right now his last conscious moments were the trauma Friday night. The few times he came to today, it was absolute trauma and fear and he’d fight to remove the tubes and we’d restrain him until the nurse could bump up the meds. I just DON'T want the last thoughts in his head to be of pain and fear.

Thanks again.

Kristy and I are home to shower and then back to the hospital where Angi is keeping watch by his side.

God bless you all.

- Margo and Dave

[ 07-11-2004, 11:54 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

John B
07-10-2004, 11:38 PM
Ahhh . I feel like swearing all sorts and kicking something. whilst I had a glimmer of something happening I didn't think it was this.
Best wishes and thoughts to you and Dave, Margo.

and family. Honestly.
I'm a bit speechless right now.

Meerkat
07-11-2004, 12:01 AM
Margo; Please pass along to Dave that I would like to thank him for all that he's shared with us on the forum.

I hope that he rallies and can go home and rest with his family for a long time.

Peace

Wild Dingo
07-11-2004, 12:32 AM
Thanks for the update Margo

Dont worry about updating us just focus on Dave and the girls... were prayin for you both and direct prayers of peace and home for your man and our mate. :(

Jayne Scott-Andrews
07-11-2004, 12:53 AM
Dear Margo,

Just wanted to let you know that I'm standing 'in the gap' for Dave

Also sending you and your girls "peace beyond your understanding"

Hold fast to what you believe in... the one who calls you IS FAITHFUL and HE WILL DO IT!

In Jesus name, AMEN

your Sister in this, Jayne

David Tabor (sailordave)
07-11-2004, 01:54 AM
Damn Margo, just today I was thinking about you guys and wondering how Dave was. I tried to read between the lines of your last email and figure out just how things were.
So here I sit at work just stunned...
Please add my name to the very long list of people that are thinking of you and doing whatever people do in times like this.

Private email to follow in the AM.
David

Stiletto
07-11-2004, 06:26 AM
Your family is in my thoughts.

Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
07-11-2004, 07:01 AM
Quote........When Dave was told his worst-case scenario was 6-8 weeks of life left, he calmly told the doctor that that just wouldn’t work because, “I’ve got a boat to put back together.”

What a guy. smile.gif
I'd like to add....."never underestimate the power of prayer". ;)
You're in our thoughts and prayers Margo.
Peace----> Kevin in Ohio

Mike Field
07-11-2004, 07:07 AM
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Bless you, Margo. Bless you all.

Mike
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True Love
07-11-2004, 08:40 AM
Dear Margo,

You guys were heavy on my mind yesterday and are in my prayers. I am praying for restful sleep for Dave while the medications fight the pneumonia and peace and support and strength to you and his daughters. I will remember you often today to our Father.

mmd
07-11-2004, 08:42 AM
Sorry to hear of this... if positive thoughts and hopes are helpful, mine are out there for you.

abe
07-11-2004, 12:15 PM
Margo, We will keep Dave and you and the family in our prayers.

May the Peace of the Holy Spirit be with you.

abe

boatlover
07-11-2004, 12:50 PM
Margo,

Please forgive my familiarity in the address on the part of this newcomer to the forum.

I have been through a process such as yours four times in my life, so I am familiar with the feelings one has.

After reading your post on the details, I found myself afraid to open the second page of the topic. But I went ahead.

Hold Daves hand. Peace and courage will flow both ways between you.

Tell him you love him. He'll hear and know, even if there is no outward sign you can see.

I add my prayers to those of all the others.

In one of my more recent experiences of this situation, I mentioned it in an internet forum, and another responder closed a reply with ...

..... my hand in yours .....


Ed R

Wild Dingo
07-11-2004, 01:04 PM
And from downunder... hands across the waters

Any further word Ed?

Gawd I hope the prayers are workin for them :(

George Jung
07-11-2004, 01:23 PM
I'd like to add my sentiments, as well. I haven't met you (or any other forumites, for that matter) but this forum feels like 'my town', and you one of it's inhabitants. Prayers for you and Dave.

Stewart McDougall
07-11-2004, 02:13 PM
We are keeping you in our thoughts and hearts. Stewart and Denny

JEM
07-11-2004, 02:21 PM
All of the above.

RGM
07-11-2004, 03:30 PM
Our thoughts are with you.
Rodger & Annie

Roger Stouff
07-11-2004, 05:17 PM
And from here.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
07-11-2004, 07:16 PM
Margo & Dave :(

ANYTHING, ANYTHING, ANYTHING I can do just name it and it's done. Prayers are a given.

You are both beautyful people and this news saddens me so. :( :(

cs
07-11-2004, 08:20 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this. My thoughts and prayers.

Chad

Tar Devil
07-11-2004, 10:07 PM
Margo,

My prayers are with you and Dave that he may feel comfort and you will feel peace.

Phil, Cheryl and the Runts

Concordia..41
07-11-2004, 11:15 PM
Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart.

After requesting last night for prayers for him to be comfortable and peaceful, I awoke this morning – after a lovely 3 hours sleep in the hospital sleeper/recliner, which would be very comfortable if it didn’t have this annoying tendency to fold up on you every time you move – but I digress.

I woke about 5:30 and went in to his room. After a few minutes he opened his eyes and didn’t fight or panic. He just calmly lay there, and I had a good amount of time - probably 10 minutes or better – where he was absolutely calm and at peace. I went through the standard I love yous, and I let him know that I was ok and the girls were ok. I told him if he wanted to try to hold on for a few days and get well enough, I’d take him home. (One of his few requests was that he not die in the hospital.) But I also told him that if he was tired, tired of the hurt, and tired of the pain that it was ok to let go.

He followed me with his eyes and when he heard the nurse’s voice on the other side of the bed he looked her way. All calmly, all without the panic and fear of the day before.

The day held more ups and downs, some of which weren’t exactly peaceful, but we’ll see what the morrow holds. Two of his regular physicians will be there instead of the weekend on-call folks, so that will be good to be able to talk through these issues with the doctors that we know.

Again, thank you all from the very bottom of my heart. The girls thank you too and have felt the comfort that they so very much need.

- Margo, Dave, Kristy & Angi

P.S. To all that have e-mailed or called, thank you too. There's just no time to reply individually so I post here.

Ed Harrow
07-11-2004, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by boatlover:
Margo,

...
Hold Daves hand. Peace and courage will flow both ways between you.

Tell him you love him. He'll hear and know, even if there is no outward sign you can see.

...
Ed RI can tell you that what Ed says is true - I was once on the receiving end.

"My hand in yours"

Ed

Ross M
07-11-2004, 11:56 PM
I am grateful for the update, Margo.

Best wishes for you, Dave, Kristy & Angi,

Ross

km gresham
07-12-2004, 07:04 AM
Thoughts and prayers still with you and Dave and the girls. Bless you all in these hardest of hard times.

Peter Kalshoven
07-12-2004, 07:52 AM
Margo and Dave,
We're praying for you here.
My hand in yours...
Pete

J. Dillon
07-12-2004, 08:06 AM
All the best in this trying hour.

"Thy will be done."

JD

Matt J.
07-12-2004, 09:33 AM
God, Margo, I'm so sorry. I've been off forum all weekend, and now I find I'm a bit late offering our sincerest prayers and best wishes for Dave, you, and your daughters.

May God hold you all in the palm of his hand and give you, all of you, all the strength and love you need.

Prayers and wishes from Maryland,
Matt and Jenny.

Alan D. Hyde
07-12-2004, 10:18 AM
You're in our thoughts and prayers, Dave, Margo & family.

May God guide, guard, protect and comfort you all.

The Lord bless you and keep you,
The Lord make his face shine upon you, and be Gracious unto you,
The Lord lift up his Countenance upon you, and give you peace.
Now, and forever more.

***

Alan & Joy

True Love
07-12-2004, 12:32 PM
Hangin' in there praying for you and Dave today. Take care, dear heart. My best to the girls, too.

David Tabor (sailordave)
07-12-2004, 12:42 PM
Margo: I'm sure most of the regulars on the forum are doing just what I've been doing the past two days; checking in 3-4 (or more) times a day to see if there is any news. And thinking about you guys as we go through the days' chores. I just had to take a break from working outside and get online. It goes w/o saying, but I will; you and Dave and the girls are in a LOT of peoples' thoughts and prayers. I hope somehow that is a bit of comfort to you all.
And don't worry about trying to email us all back individually; just keep us posted.

David

John Bell
07-12-2004, 12:56 PM
Prayers for healing, strength, peace, and comfort for all are on their way.

Bruce Hooke
07-12-2004, 01:22 PM
Margo, Dave, Kristy & Angi,

My prayers are with you...

- Bruce

Jim H
07-12-2004, 01:36 PM
I'll keep you and your family in my prayers Margo.

John Blazy
07-12-2004, 01:45 PM
Margo and Dave,
Dave and all your family are certainly in my prayers now. I'm so sorry our lives are so fragile. Please try to communicate to Dave that we all care here. Hold copies of these pages up for him to see, and I'll pray that he will see them soon.
God, please carry them now - Amen.

bob goeckel
07-12-2004, 01:48 PM
:( “Dear Lord,
be good to me...
The sea is so wide
and my boat is so small.”

John B
07-12-2004, 04:19 PM
David. You're right on the money there Mate. Checking all the time.

Margo,We're all thinking of you and Dave .

Dave Fleming
07-12-2004, 06:07 PM
Ayup, just checking and keeping this on top.

Art Read
07-12-2004, 07:33 PM
Margo... I leave home tomorrow to head offshore on an owner's delivery of a new boat to San Fransisco. Rest assured that on the long, lonely midnight watches to come, at least one concerned sailor at sea will be thinking of you, Dave and your family. I may not be able to follow things here for a bit, but I trust that the mysterious bond all we sailors feel will allow Dave to "visit" me in that cockpit while he gathers his strength. And I him. God Speed.

R.I.Singer30
07-12-2004, 11:48 PM
Oh My,I haven't been here lately.....words can't express.Thoughts and prayers to you all.Dan L.

Concordia..41
07-13-2004, 06:19 AM
Thanks all. Just a quick update. My little Energizer-Bunny-crossed-with-a- Timex-Watch husband continues to amaze most of the hospital. The pneumonia is completely under control. Our pulmonary doctor said from yesterday morning’s chest x-ray that if the pneumonia was the only issue, he would sign discharge papers and send him home.

Things are still critical, still terminal, but they did a “flow by” test yesterday morning where they turned the ventilator off for an hour and monitored him. He breathed fine on his own and then they turned it back on so he wouldn’t wear himself out.

After that a good bit of the day was spent with most of the respiratory department coming in and out trying to sort out their machinery because Dave was breathing along with the ventilator so strongly that he would override the machine – which the ventilator doesn’t like and the alarms start beeping. While the beeping is music to my ears, it drives them nuts. Finally the department head came down and after 20 minutes or so of tweaking the settings, she matched his breathing pattern sufficiently to achieve kind of assistance breathing mode.

So here goes another specific prayer request…

We need him to continue to do well today so they can wean him from the ventilator and allow the intubation tube to be removed. That will increase his comfort dramatically. The next issue is a lung that is still partially collapsed. If we can cross those two hurdles, he can come home. Oh, and can we have a little rain between 2-4 p.m.? The yard needs watering LOL ;)

Seriously, he is conscious, communicative (via eye contact and hand signals), and in fairly good spirits. Hell, last night he made fishing plans with one of the respiratory technicians. I just shake my head at the surrealness of it all.

More seriously, one of his few requests and a promise I made to him was that I wouldn’t let him die in the hospital. He needs to come home.

God bless you all.

Margo & Dave

Ian McColgin
07-13-2004, 06:26 AM
I am reminded of another Dave, a close friend, who stopped by my boat for a last 'sail' after his last chemo treatment. It was vile weather and we did not even leave the dock. The gentle dockside rocking was too much for his atrophed torso muscles and it painfully ground his spine, but still he glowed. He died a couple of days later, at home as he wanted.

When it's my time, I hope to feel as close to both family and reality as that Dave and as your Dave.

Jack Heinlen
07-13-2004, 06:38 AM
Hope and prayers that Dave gets to go home soon. He's the bravest person I know right now. I'm sure he would scoff at that notion, which would only heighten my admiration.

You're right up there too, Margo.

God bless and keep you both.

Jack

Jayne Scott-Andrews
07-13-2004, 06:49 AM
Still standing 'in the gap' Margo !!

Blessings,
Jayne

km gresham
07-13-2004, 06:49 AM
Prayers for Dave to come home. And for a bit of rain during the time you requested. ;) I was taught that we should pray for everything we want (nothing too small or too large), so rain is a legitimate request! Between the hours of 2 and 4 I don't know, but I'll give it a shot anyway! smile.gif

Bless all of you - Dave has enormous strength - as do you, Margo. smile.gif

cs
07-13-2004, 06:57 AM
Margo, hang in there girl. You're doing a wonderful job and it sounds like Dave may be batteling his way to the top. I'm in your corner and here if you need me.

Chad

ken mcclure
07-13-2004, 07:53 AM
Praying just a hard as I can, M.

Matt J.
07-13-2004, 08:21 AM
Continued prayers, wishes, and hopes, Margo - anytime. Dave's got amazing strength, as do you, and I hope he can muster even more defiance of the medical folk; but, baby steps, so a return home, and some healthy rain.

Thinking of you,
Matt and Jenny

htom
07-13-2004, 08:30 AM
Thanks for taking the time for the update, Margo. Rain between 2 and 4? EDT? ;) That too! smile.gif

Bob Perkins
07-13-2004, 08:49 AM
I hope nobody stops into my office right now while I wipe my eyes.

I'm happy that hurdles are being leaped..

Bob

LisaS
07-13-2004, 09:35 AM
Sending good vibes to you ...

Lisa

Alan D. Hyde
07-13-2004, 09:52 AM
God bless you all, Dave & Margo & Kristi & Angi.

Alan & Joy

David Conard
07-13-2004, 11:10 AM
Margo,

My praying skills are not very advanced, but I want you to know my thoughts are with you and Dave and the girls. I am amazed by your strength. When you were emailing me last week about bleaching the stains on my masts I had no idea you were going through this. You and Dave have been such an inspiration on this forum for so long.

Peace,
David

Mike Field
07-13-2004, 11:28 AM
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Thanks for the continuing updates, Margo. Like others here, I'm calling in several times a day to get the latest picture.

I hope the good news from today continues tomorrow. And the next day. And the day after that.

I'm not a great one for prayer (not in the accepted sense anyway,) but you know my thoughts are very much with you at this time.

Much love to you all from Downunder.

Mike
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Meerkat
07-13-2004, 01:56 PM
Come ON Dave! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Ed Harrow
07-13-2004, 02:31 PM
((((((oo))))))

Ed

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Jamie Hascall
07-13-2004, 02:44 PM
Aww heck, I've gotta keep better watch in this place. I'm so sorry Margo.

It's really something to watch someone face the reaper and decide to make fishing plans instead. I won't be surprised if he gets to go.

Come on Dave, the fish are waiting and you've still got that Concordia to finish. You can't leave yet. We're all there with you.

Jamie and Betsy

[ 07-13-2004, 08:28 PM: Message edited by: Jamie Hascall ]

Joe Dupere
07-13-2004, 02:57 PM
Margo, I'm a fairly regular lurker, and I only surface to post sporadically. I just want you both to know that there's another Mainer keeping you in his thoughts. I've followed the story of Sarah, not so much because it's a Concordia, but because it's named Sarah, which is my oldest daughter's name. You and Dave are both amazing in the face of all of this.

I'm sure you know this, but you're not alone.

Joe

Doug Wood
07-13-2004, 03:44 PM
Margo, Dave and family,

Our prayers and positive thoughts are sent your way.

Best,
Doug and JoAnne Wood

R.I.Singer30
07-13-2004, 04:42 PM
Done and doing it.Dan L.

SteveFaehnle
07-13-2004, 05:40 PM
a silent, devout recitation of the 23rd psalm for Dave, Margo, and family...steve and chris faehnle

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
07-13-2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by steve faehnle:
a silent, devout recitation of the 23rd psalm for Dave, Margo, and family...The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
He leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;

Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.

Peter Kalshoven
07-13-2004, 09:15 PM
Margo and Dave, I don't pretend to know how exactly prayers work. I just know they do. We're still out here, still praying. Dave, hope you catch some nice fish... a good day fishing is a good day, period.
May God bless you both, and hold you in the palm of his hand.
Pete

Paul Denison
07-13-2004, 09:33 PM
Margo, our prayers are with you. Thank you for your kind words with my Mothers illness.

Concordia..41
07-13-2004, 10:49 PM
Hi all – this may be short because I have miles to go before I sleep. Actually, I think I’m going to go and sit on Sarah for a bit.

First and foremost, thank you. Three pages! I'm overwhelmed! It's printing now for folks at the hospital to read. Your prayers and kind wishes have and continue to do much good, and your words here are now being read by most of Dave’s family.

Today was good. Dave did good breathing on his own for over an hour and they’re in a weaning protocol right now with plans to remove the ventilator tomorrow morning around 9 a.m. He had a good afternoon and evening, and we've been able to communicate well and have talked about a lot of things.

Now whoever was praying this morning at 10:37 EST, I suggest you go buy a lottery ticket!

The hospital Chaplin (accompanied by two reinforcements) had just stopped by for a moment, and when I returned to my chair beside the bed I glanced down at the chest tube indicator that monitors the air leak in Dave’s lung AND THERE WAS NO AIR LEAKING . It was so startling that I noted the time so I could let you all know.

Unfortunately, it was short lived. The spot causing the pneumothorax (http://www.ecureme.com/emyhealth/data/Collapsed_Lung.asp) is small and apparently the way he was laying on his side, it sealed itself temporarily. When he moved again the air leak came right back up on the monitor. It kind of freaked me out that his lung just spontaneously healed. Especially after asking for that in prayers here and the Chaplin just walking out.

I’d reasoned it out on my own and had been told repeatedly that it would be all but impossible for the pneumothorax to heal while he’s on the ventilator. There’s just no way with the constant action and pressure from the ventilator that the lung is going to heal and reinflate.

When they had the ventilator off though, there was a marked improvement in the air leaking out of the lung, and I’m extremely hopeful that tomorrow will be a good day.

Now let me go break the news to Sarah.
:(

- M

[ 07-13-2004, 11:51 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

John B
07-13-2004, 10:58 PM
Thanks Margo.

imported_Steven Bauer
07-13-2004, 10:59 PM
Thanks, Margo, for taking the time to keep your friends here informed. We went through a similar ordeal when my Mom passed away. She was able to come home and her whole family was with her. I was looking through your website yesterday and got all choked up. You guys are special people. Remember to take care of yourself, too. And don't forget to tell Sarah we all said hello.
Prayers from Maine,

Steven and Mary

Ross M
07-13-2004, 11:31 PM
"Now whoever was praying this morning at 10:37 EST, I suggest you go buy a lottery ticket!"

LOL. I would bet that there are a dozen of us fitting that time slot.

Ross

Meerkat
07-13-2004, 11:45 PM
Slow and steady wins the race Margo!

Tell Dave to keep on keepin' on and that we hope to hear a few words from him when he's up to it!

Thinking good thoughts in your and Dave's direction...

JimConlin
07-14-2004, 01:10 AM
We're with you.
Jim

km gresham
07-14-2004, 06:37 AM
Y'all are still in our thoughts and prayers, Margo. Thank you for taking the time for the updates. Tell Dave "hello" for us (all of us) and to keep makin' those plans!

Karen and Charles

Seth Wood
07-14-2004, 07:37 AM
And thoughts from Virginia; the air is thick and shimmering with hope. Courage and strength to both of you.

Billy Bones
07-14-2004, 08:06 AM
Prayers headed your way.

David Tabor (sailordave)
07-14-2004, 08:14 AM
For days the Annapolis forecast has had lots of "5 knots, waves 1 foot or less" in the forecast so I haven't bothered to drive 90 miles...
Yestereday I had to go over to pick up some charts/stuff I loaned some friends who just hauled out. While there I noticed it was blowing pretty nicely so I suggested we take my club boat out. 3 hours of great sailing on an S2 9.2 and the haze kept the sun from baking us. I was there thinking what a great day and then thought of Dave; initial feelings of sadness, but then I tried "willing" some of the day to him. Hope he got some; sounds like he had a good (relatively) day. Still praying/thinking about you guys!

Bill Dodson
07-14-2004, 10:48 AM
I only just saw this news today :( I have added my prayers for you and Dave.

Bill Dodson

Hwyl
07-14-2004, 02:22 PM
Still hanging in there for you.

Ed Harrow
07-14-2004, 03:30 PM
I was over working on Phoenix for a bit this afternoon. I took a moment to set in her cockpit and we two tried our best to send good thoughts your way. Only wish we could do more then send them...

Our hands in yours ((((((oo))))))

Ed

Concordia..41
07-14-2004, 10:12 PM
Hello to all of our friends of the Wooden Boat Forum. This is Kristy, Dave's oldest daughter and Margo wanted me to update you on the latest.

I have to admit that we thought this morning was going to be his last. The x-ray showed one of his lungs being completely collapsed and with further testing, it could not be saved. After discussion with the family, the tube was removed, the respirator was turned off and he was given oxygen, and the rest would be what it would be. The morphine drip was started, and we did everything we could to stop the tears. We just wanted him to be comfortable, without pain fear and pain.

Within the hour, Daddy opened his eyes. He looked at me, squeezed my hand and then looked for Margo, who was, and has been since last Wednesday, planted on his right side. After asking him several yes/no questions, Margo asked him if she could get him anything, and his reply was "Yes, my clothes. I want to go home."

Yes, my friends. As of this moment, my Daddy is breathing, with oxygen and with only one lung and is comfortable. THE PLAN IS FOR HIM TO COME HOME TOMORROW!! Throughout the rest of this afternoon, his strength and sense of humor returned (to some degree!) and arrangements are being made for him to come home tomorrow.

Your thoughts and prayers from all over the world reached St. Augustine and touch my Daddy and Margo --and all of us for that matter. As I sit here with tears in my eyes, I will be eternally grateful for all of your tender words and prayers.

I'm sure Margo is looking forward to coming home and giving you the update personally. Until then, thank you, a thousand times over! - Kristy

LisaS
07-14-2004, 10:24 PM
Kristy -

Thank you for taking the time and effort to keep us all updated. We're sending hugs to you all during these dark hours.

Lisa

Ed Harrow
07-14-2004, 10:31 PM

Dave Fleming
07-14-2004, 10:54 PM
Gulp!

Meerkat
07-14-2004, 11:25 PM
In all the 10 directions, there is rejoicing! smile.gif

Jack Heinlen
07-15-2004, 12:36 AM
Yes Kristy, take your father home. It is in your power, even if Dave takes a turn and the doctors are reluctant. Take him home. A man's wishes should be given special attention at this time.

May God bless you, your sister, Margo and Dave.

Mike Field
07-15-2004, 04:27 AM
.
Thanks for posting, Kristy. I gulped too, just like Dave F. I think Jack's right, take your Dad home if that's what he wants. And tell him that we're all giving you all the biggest-ever group hug.

Mike

Bruce Hooke
07-15-2004, 05:19 AM
Thanks for the update. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

- Bruce

Wild Dingo
07-15-2004, 06:16 AM
Kristy THANK YOU so much for taking the time out of what must be an increadibly stressfull time for all of you.

As I sit here wiping the tears from my eyes after reading your words and those of Margos above it really hits home the fragile nature of our lives... and how special love is.

From all of us in Australia to all Daves family relations and freinds we are holding him and you all close and checking in every day in the hope that things will change for you all.

Dave mate when you read this ol fella... know that your loved by a lot more people than you think you are!

km gresham
07-15-2004, 06:34 AM
Thank you, Kristy. We're still praying that your Daddy will be able to come home and that all of you have the strength to see this through. Your Daddy is a very lucky man to have the love of such women as you, Angi and Margo. I know that is what keeps him here - that and his tremendous will! smile.gif

Bless you all and know that you're remembered and prayed for every day.

Karen and Charles

cs
07-15-2004, 06:39 AM
Thanks for the update Kristy.

Margo, Margaret sends her best and she is praying for you also.

I remember when we meet you. While we were exchanging histories you told us that you had lead a charmed life and that you had been blessed with a great life. At this time I'm reminded of that and feel that yes you are truely blessed. You and Dave have something wonderful that is touching and endering and even if it may not be for as long as you wish, you are still blessed to have him and it sounds like you have picked up an outstanding family (his daughters) in the process.

I pray for Dave's recovery.

Chad

SUE H
07-15-2004, 06:55 AM
Margo, hope you're hanging in there. Best to you and the girls. Tell Dave he's got all of the love, prayers and compassion that a good WB Forum can muster - and that's alot!

Take care,

Sue & Mike

Matt J.
07-15-2004, 08:11 AM
Thanks for the update, Kristy. Jenny and I are still sending prayers and well wishes your way - we'll happily continue to do so.

Best,
Matt

Bob Perkins
07-15-2004, 08:13 AM
I have no words at this point.

ken mcclure
07-15-2004, 09:04 AM
What Shane (Wild Dingo) said.

Know that you all have friends all over the world, and we're all pulling for you.

Leon m
07-15-2004, 11:40 AM
I'm still trying to add all the energy I can to
the power of prayer that is going on here I will
take a moment now to focus my attention on Dave
in hopes that it will only add to the collection
of good healing thoughts .

htom
07-15-2004, 11:47 AM
Thank you for the update, Kristy. May the four of you have many, many, many more days of joy.

kialoa
07-15-2004, 12:13 PM
Margo and Dave
I just checked in. I have no words. my prayers are with you, tell Dave I'm pulling for him.

Rich

Nora Lee
07-15-2004, 01:33 PM
Dave, Margo and Family...

Our prayers are with you and yours,
I've been away from this computer for a while and just read the sad news.

Find strength in each other, and in the power of prayer.

May the Peace that passeth all understanding, be with you now and always, in all ways.

Regards,

Jon & Nora Lee

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Alan D. Hyde
07-15-2004, 03:27 PM
I know several men who have climbed out of bed, and who have walked away from death's door, against all odds, contrary to all medical expectations.

I hope to be able to add Dave to that list, Margo, Kristy & Angi. :D

All of you will be in our thoughts and prayers; may God give you strength.

Alan & Joy

Concordia..41
07-15-2004, 06:03 PM
HE'S HOME!!!!! smile.gif x 1,000,000

Leon m
07-15-2004, 06:06 PM
smile.gif :cool:

Donn
07-15-2004, 06:06 PM
Happy Happpy Happy! Welcome home, Dave! :cool: :D :D

Jamie Hascall
07-15-2004, 06:08 PM
:D :D :D :D !!!!

Dave Fleming
07-15-2004, 06:10 PM
Yipee!!!!

Dave is at HOME.
:D :D :D

edit: this news makes me break my no Greamlins rule.
:D :D :D

David Tabor (sailordave)
07-15-2004, 06:16 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Yeah!!!!!
That is the BEST news I've heard in a long time!
Mrs. Sailordave says she is available to help if you need advice on meds etc. (She's an RN along with a WHOLE bunch of other letters after her name!) You have our number in my email to you; call night or day!
David

Bruce Hooke
07-15-2004, 06:29 PM
That's excellent news. I hope you can all find peace in the time you now have together, AT HOME!

Memphis Mike
07-15-2004, 06:47 PM
Great News! :D

Jim H
07-15-2004, 06:48 PM
Great News!

km gresham
07-15-2004, 08:02 PM
Wonderful news! :D Home is the best place in the world! smile.gif

Ken Hutchins
07-15-2004, 08:09 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Ed Harrow
07-15-2004, 08:31 PM
(((( smile.gif smile.gif ))))

"There's no place like home..."

htom
07-15-2004, 08:57 PM
smile.gif

Welcome home, Dave.

Jayne Scott-Andrews
07-15-2004, 09:08 PM
THANK YOU GOD !!!

:D :D :D :D

PaulC
07-15-2004, 09:30 PM
and still praying...

Bill Dodson
07-15-2004, 09:34 PM
:D :D :D :D :D

Bill

Jayne Scott-Andrews
07-15-2004, 09:39 PM
and still praying... ... AMEN !! :D

Bob Perkins
07-15-2004, 09:40 PM
Whooo Hoooo!!!! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

whb
07-15-2004, 09:58 PM
great news and prayers still being sent.

Howard

R.I.Singer30
07-15-2004, 10:29 PM
A couple more hail Marys goin your way. Dan L. smile.gif

Jack Heinlen
07-15-2004, 11:18 PM
The wild gander leads his flock through the cool night,
Ya-honk he says, and sounds it down to me like an invitation,
The pert may suppose it meaningless, but I listening close,
Find its purpose and place up there toward the wintry sky.

The sharp-hoof'd moose of the north, the cat on the house-sill, the
chickadee, the prairie-dog,
The litter of the grunting sow as they tug at her teats,
The brood of the turkey-hen and she with her half-spread wings,
I see in them and myself the same old law.

The press of my foot to the earth springs a hundred affections,
They scorn the best I can do to relate them.

I am enamour'd of growing out-doors,
Of men that live among cattle or taste of the ocean or woods,
Of the builders and steerers of ships and the wielders of axes and
mauls, and the drivers of horses,
I can eat and sleep with them week in and week out.

What is commonest, cheapest, nearest, easiest, is Me,
Me going in for my chances, spending for vast returns,
Adorning myself to bestow myself on the first that will take me,
Not asking the sky to come down to my good will,
Scattering it freely forever.

Walt Whitman

Meerkat
07-16-2004, 12:06 AM
HURRAH!!!! smile.gif

John B
07-16-2004, 12:45 AM
Great news. :D

rbgarr
07-16-2004, 02:22 AM
Home is best smile.gif

Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
07-16-2004, 05:43 AM
Glad to hear Dave is Home. smile.gif
More Prayers and healing thoughts headed your way. :cool:

cs
07-16-2004, 05:59 AM
Great news! You tell Dave to get better now, he still owes me a ride on Sarah.

Chad

Mrleft8
07-16-2004, 08:01 AM
One never ceases to be amazed.
(Ever seen the Snoopy "supper time" dance?" :D )

Donn
07-16-2004, 08:10 AM
http://www.kinleymacgregor.com/images/snoopydance2.gif

Concordia..41
07-16-2004, 08:15 AM
Leave it to Donn. ;) Thanks again all.

- Margo, Dave, Kristy, and Angi smile.gif

Matt J.
07-16-2004, 08:16 AM
Great news! :cool: Home at last. Still praying and wishing you all continued strength and blessings smile.gif .

-Matt

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
07-16-2004, 11:02 AM
http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

Wonderful News, My prayers go with you both still smile.gif

Alan D. Hyde
07-16-2004, 11:24 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Alan

nedL
07-16-2004, 12:30 PM
Margo, Dave, Kristi & Angi, My thoughts & prayers are are with your family. I hope Dave is resting at home. Ned

gary porter
07-16-2004, 03:06 PM
Here hoping that all is still going well, we're all pulling for you with our thoughts and prayers.
A lot of power is on your side.
Gary

ken mcclure
07-16-2004, 05:16 PM
There truly is no place like home.

At least Dave didn't have to put on ruby slippers!

Still pulling for ya.

Ken

imported_Conrad
07-16-2004, 06:56 PM
May God continue to bless and strengthen you! smile.gif :cool:

Donn
07-16-2004, 07:21 PM
I popped a lung, a long time ago. I was helping a friend frame the second story of a garage/loft. I had set up a dozen 2by studs, to cut them all at once. I cut 'em, lifted the circular saw, and stepped back to admire my work...and fell through the empty stairwell hole in the deck, still holding the saw, and landed on my back on the sandbed below (thank god we hadn't poured the slab yet). Broke 3 ribs in 5 places, and one of them popped a lung.

The emergency room, in Cleveland, put me on a little blow up gizmo that forced me to keep a ping-pong ball afloat by blowing into it. I used it for weeks until I was able to keep the ball up constantly.

I was in my early 40's then, and a smoker since my early 20's. I made that ball my enemy, and I beat it. No cancer, so far, to deal with, but I still have every break in those ribs, aggravating me whenever the pressure changes.

Push the ball, Dave. Push the ball. You have a boat to finish.

True Love
07-16-2004, 08:25 PM
Welcome home, Dave!

I've just come back from 4 days in Chicago away from the computer and am so glad for you all. Kristi - enjoyed your note to us. Will continue to pray for each of you.

SUE H
07-16-2004, 08:38 PM
Great news! The food will sure be a darned sight better at home, and there's nothing like your own bed.

I'm glad to hear you're back, Dave. Take care of yourself. And Margo, all the best to you and the girls.

Mike Field
07-16-2004, 08:44 PM
.
Great news indeed.

Yes -- East, west, home's definitely best.

http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/public/smiley-hug.gif
.

Scott Rosen
07-16-2004, 09:50 PM
Margo,

You, Dave and your family have my prayers and my admiration. We recently went through a similar time with my father-in-law, who recently passed away. It is a great blessing to be near to someone who was able to live as he wanted to live, and die as he wanted to die.

God be with you.

Wild Dingo
07-16-2004, 10:42 PM
http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/public/smiley-hug.gif
Love to all

Meerkat
07-17-2004, 12:17 AM
Dear Margo;

I hope, now that the immediate crisis is past, that you will continue to keep us posted on how things are going. Please let us know also if there's anything concrete we can do to help you all at this time.

My thoughts continue to be with you.

Concordia..41
07-17-2004, 06:19 AM
Hi all. I've started replies a half dozen times but it's hard with a house full of people. And now that he's home, the saga, while interesting and entertaining at times, is now mute.

All we need now is for him to find peace. The girls, I, and Sarah will be fine, and we've reasured him of that a hundred times over. We're even ok today without your prayers. One or more of us will be constantly at his side. Just concentrate on him.

He's home and just has to let go. Let him know it's ok.

Thank you all.
Love-
Margo

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SUE H
07-17-2004, 07:26 AM
Margo,
As long as he knows that he's been a good husband and father and that you're all better people for having had him in your lives, and that you'll carry on that legacy and see him again one day, he'll have peace. And I feel certain he knows that. My heartfelt prayers to you and Dave.
Sue

Leigh
07-17-2004, 07:44 AM
Hello,
I found this thread only this evening. Please accept my best wishes for all your futures.
Strange how things happen, I stumbled across your website for the first time in a while....I read it again wondering how things were going for you all (incuding Sarah)....and then I find this posting.
....Regards, Leigh
.
"The lights begin to twinkle from the rocks;
The long day wanes; the slow moon climbs; the deep
Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends.
'T is not too late to seek a newer world.
Push off, and sitting well in order smite
The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths
Of all the western stars, until I die."
Tennyson

[ 07-17-2004, 08:46 AM: Message edited by: Leigh ]

Wooden Boat Fittings
07-17-2004, 09:07 AM
.
Sue's just said it for me, Margo. (As has Tennyson -- thanks Leigh.)
.

Wild Dingo
07-17-2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Concordia..41:
He's home and just has to let go. Let him know it's ok.
Love-
Margo.
Im no Tennyson but... from your mates Dave
------------------------------------------------
Let the wind take your sails
and set your course just beyond the horizon

If the battles been fought
The race has been run
If the sails have been set
And the wind is fair and strong
As your life light is now ebbing
Move gently my friend toward that other place

Be not afraid to let go my friend
For your loved ones are well cared for
Youve left your heart upon their souls
Your wisdom knowledge and humour within their minds
Your friends both near and far hold them in their hearts

Dont worry mate
We'll shed a tear and raise a beer
to the mate who was both brave and steadfast
A bloke with cheer and strength
A mate through and through

As each of us your friends one and all
Sit at our desks far and wide across this troubled world
with tears in our eyes
pain in our hearts
We will know that one day
We shall all follow in your wake

A small touch of you
Has been enough for all of us to know
You did your best you tried your hardest
Now its time to rest old mate

And those of us who never met you
Will join you on the other side
When our day is done our race run
Then we'll share a smile,
A laugh, and a yarn or two

You know that soon enough upon those angels wings
Your beloved will come to you
When her race is run and her tide goes out
But for now tis enough to know

You did your best and now mate eternal rest

------------------------------------------------

Dave although it pains to say it... mate its okay to just let go

As your dear husband lover and friend father confidant and workmate Daves time draws near Margo... you and the girls know in your hearts souls and minds that around the world your friends shed a tear and hold you all close

Thinking of you all

boatlover
07-17-2004, 11:26 AM
(Shane, maybe you are "Not Tennyson," but I still say you're skaldish. I like the poem.)

Margo,

A jumble of feelings are running through me.
Here's three of them:

One: back to Tennnyson ..

I feel

... but such a tide as moving seems asleep,
... too full for sound or foam.

Two: Lincoln ...

. far beyond our poor powers to add or detract.
. It is rather for us to be here re-dedicated
. to the task which they have thus far so
. nobly advanced.

Three: The Friends have a saying ....

.. I/we will hold you in the light.

.... my hand in yours - and Daves.

Ed R

SC-Lion
07-17-2004, 11:27 AM
My positive thoughts are with you and your family.

Peace.

-Gary

Meerkat
07-17-2004, 01:35 PM
NOW finale to the shore!
Now, land and life, finale, and farewell!
Now Voyager depart! (much, much for thee is yet in store;)
Often enough hast thou adventur’d o’er the seas,
Cautiously cruising, studying the charts,
Duly again to port, and hawser’s tie, returning:
—But now obey, thy cherish’d, secret wish,
Embrace thy friends—leave all in order;
To port, and hawser’s tie, no more returning,
Depart upon thy endless cruise, old Sailor!

-- Whitman

DavesFlatsBoat
07-17-2004, 02:00 PM
May the Lord give you peace on this journey.

Dave

Roger Stouff
07-17-2004, 02:53 PM
:D

km gresham
07-17-2004, 03:56 PM
I find that Dave crosses my mind several times a day as I go about the usual things. Each time I get on here I look and see all the well wishes and prayers still coming. smile.gif And I think of you, Margo. I so admire your strength. And the girls. Bless all of you. Know that you are thought of often through the days and nights.

Karen and Charles

Hwyl
07-17-2004, 04:50 PM
The 200th (official, millionth unofficial) best wish is mine. I remain an optimist.

This quote is from the virtual regatta and BBQ post below. It's not too much to hope for is it?

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Count us for 2 in the RSVP column

- Margo & Dave

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Todd Bradshaw
07-17-2004, 06:36 PM
I've been off the forum for a couple weeks and this is certainly sad news to come back to. For Margo and the girls, hang in there, your cyber-siblings are all pulling for you. As for you Dave, the normal good wishes go without saying. In addition, as one who learned much from reading your posts and also in particular from many enjoyable hours spent with a well-worn copy of "The Nature of Boats", I'd like to say thanks. I still use it as a reference more frequently that I'd probably care to admit and will no doubt continue to benefit from your words and your talent to make a dry subject interesting and fun. Thank you for making a difference and fair winds on your future voyages.

Meerkat
07-17-2004, 06:44 PM
Well, I'll be danged! I had no idea Dave was a published writer! Waaay Cooool! smile.gif

Jack Heinlen
07-17-2004, 07:01 PM
I believe Dave Gerr is the above mentioned author.

Ken Hutchins
07-17-2004, 07:03 PM
I was unaware also and that was on my list of books to get, now there is one less at our sponsors store. ;) I'm sure I will be thinking of Dave and family every time I look at it.

Meerkat
07-17-2004, 07:09 PM
Hmmm... is "Gerr" a nom de plume, or have I/we been misspelling Dave's last name as "Geer" for all this time?

Todd Bradshaw
07-17-2004, 07:12 PM
Damn, you're right! Sometimes I'm so dyslexic that I can barely spell my own name and have been reading Dave and Margo's wrong for years without knowing it! In that case Dave, get better soon damnit! You've got a book to write so that I can thank you properly. All the best,
Todd

Concordia..41
07-17-2004, 08:06 PM
No worries Todd, it's a compliment. Jack's right though, Dave Gerr isn't my Dave.

My Dave is hanging in there. Quitting and/or giving up are not part of his nature, but we've let him know that it's ok to let go. I don't believe it's unfinished business or anything else that holding him. Just his internal inability to give up when he has an ounce of breath or a single cell still functioning.

He's had a comfortable day and we had a couple of nice naps together. After a week's experience sleeping in the various recliners and chairs at the hospital, stretching out on a few inches on the edge of his hospital bed is absolutely luxurious. We even held hands and watched a storm roll in this afternoon.

Other than when he wakes up startled or scared and I reassure him that I'm there, there are no words needed between us.

Hospice has been wonderful and in less than 24 hours produced out of almost nowhere liquid oxygen tanks and assorted gear necessary for his comfort and that allowed us to bring him home.

The girls and their spouses have alternately juggled and placed their lives on hold and are here for the duration. Dave's two sisters, brothers-in-law, niece and nephew are also part of the support team. We have all that we might want or need.

Thank you all again.

- Margo, Dave, Kristy & Angi

[ 07-25-2004, 10:24 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

km gresham
07-17-2004, 08:35 PM
So very glad for all the love and support for Dave. He is blessed in these hard days to have all of you. Naps are a good thing - and naps together are the very best. smile.gif

Donn
07-17-2004, 08:42 PM
"I don't believe it's unfinished business or anything else that holding him. Just his internal inability to give up when he has an ounce of breath or a single cell still functioning." Got that right, kiddo! When you asked us to pray for him to know it's ok to let go, I just couldn't do it. If the man wants to bask in the love of his wife and family, I say let him soak it up. Take every one of those naps you can get, both of you. Snuggle up and let the energy flow back and forth.

Dave, you go when you've had enough. I have a feeling there's plenty there for you to feast on until then.

SUE H
07-17-2004, 08:42 PM
Just take it a day at a time, and when that's too much, take it an hour at a time, and when you can't muster that, take it a minute at a time.

You and your family have a lot of cyber arms around you to give you cyber hugs, but I'm sure glad that you've got family there to give you real ones, too.

I'm glad you two are at home, and together.
Thanks for keeping us posted, Margo. Best to you all.

Concordia..41
07-17-2004, 09:31 PM
Hello once again from Kristy.

I just had to come on board and let all of you know that I have lost count as to how many times I sat here at the computer and hit the "refresh" button, reading and re-reading all of the wonderful messages of love and support. It has truly been helpful ...

It's so nice to know that so many people around the world know just how special my Daddy is. There was nothing he wouldn't do for us girls (this includes Margo and Sarah , too!). I have listened and done your suggestions --about letting him know just how special he was to me, what a great Daddy he was, and how my life is so much better because he was a part of it. I have also printed copies of various passages (Leigh and Wild Dingo come to mind right now ...) read them to him and put them in poster form (larger size font, filling up the page) so he could perhaps read it himself if he was able to.

My sister Angi and I will take a moment to outwardly thank Margo for making my Dad's life so happy. Even in these difficult times, she manages to put a smile on her face and offer words of encouragement to us when I know she is hurting so deeply inside. She hasn't left my father's side --please continue to think of her and pray for her strength.

She is as strong as a rock and my life is better because she is in it. If I may steal a line from one of Daddy's favorite movies "Message in a Bottle," she is our true north ...

She is a wonderful friend and a fantastic Grandmother to the grandkids, too.

I have also shared this website with my friends and they are all truly amazed of all of the love and support that flows through cyber space.

If I could also copy the big, happy-hugging smiley face, I would put it right here for all of you in return. I feel the love and warmth ... we all do.

Thank you for being a part of my Dad's and Margo's lives.

Bye for now ...
Kristy

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Paul Pless
07-17-2004, 09:40 PM
you have my prayers and my tears

Memphis Mike
07-17-2004, 10:04 PM
Margo, I've been at a loss for words throughout and still am for the most part because I've been through this before myself on more than one occasion.

Just want you all to know that you are still in my prayers. God bless you and keep you during these trying times.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
07-17-2004, 10:33 PM
Tomorow I go to Church for Dave & Margo :(

Bob Perkins
07-17-2004, 11:06 PM
I hope the best for you all. This is the most touching internet thread I have ever been on.

I spend most of this evening fighting with a broken computer - bashed my thumb in the shop and generally had most of a crummy day.

Thanks for reminding me that there are people and things much more important than day to day annoyances.

I'll say a little prayer tonight.
Take Care,
Bob

formerlyknownasprince
07-18-2004, 06:42 AM
Keep your chins up folks.

km gresham
07-18-2004, 08:16 AM
Thank you Kristi. In the end all we take with us is the love we received and all we leave behind of true value is the love we gave. Dave's life has been filled with love. It will comfort all of you in the days, weeks and years ahead.
Having the time to tell each other how much you're loved is a gift. Y'all are using it very well.
We wish Dave peace and comfort and all of his "girls" love and strength. Love really is the only thing in this world that matters.

Prayers continue for all of you.

Karen and Charles

SUE H
07-18-2004, 09:41 AM
Hang in there, Kristy. You've got the love & support of your family to keep you strong, and when you need some additional support, we're here for you! Hope you guys have a good day today.

Take care,

Sue

Mike Field
07-18-2004, 09:44 AM
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Nicely put Karen, and perfectly correct. Thank you.


Originally posted by km gresham:

We wish Dave peace and comfort and all of his "girls" love and strength. Love really is the only thing in this world that matters.
From me too.

Mike
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Stargazer14
07-18-2004, 11:56 AM
What Mike and Karen said goes for me too.

I am very saddened by all this, but thank you and Dave for sharing thru the forum the small part of your life that you did.

Michael

Nora Lee
07-18-2004, 12:26 PM
You, who have shown me great
and severe troubles,
Shall revive me again,
And bring me up again from
the depths of the earth.
You shall increase my greatness,
And comfort me on every side. Psalm 71: 20-21

Concordia..41
07-18-2004, 04:08 PM
David Jeffrey Geer

4/27/47-7/18/04

Brother, Father, Husband, Friend, Boat Man

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High C
07-18-2004, 04:14 PM
Peace.....

imported_Steven Bauer
07-18-2004, 04:22 PM
Sitting here with tears running down my face wishing you peace.
So sorry Margo and family.

Steven and Mary

Rich VanValkenburg
07-18-2004, 04:27 PM
Oh no....

God, bless our friend Dave, keep his family in your heart, and let no one forget his strength. Give him peace, let him know no pain, and hold him in your hands.

Bill Dodson
07-18-2004, 04:47 PM
I am so glad that you were able to bring him home from the hospital first.

Margo, I pray that you and your daughters will be able to find comfort and peace. Have faith that Dave has not gone away but instead has gone on to something new and better. Death can't stop or end Love- it has no power over it. Your love still lives, and so Dave is still with you.

A pitiful attempt to capture a powerful and beautiful concept. I hope in your heart you understand what I'm trying to say.

sending you Peace, Love, and Comfort from Maryland,
Bill

PeterSibley
07-18-2004, 04:54 PM
Margo....I pray for easy breathing and clear nights .God Bless .I know the scene you described too well .
Peter

ken mcclure
07-18-2004, 04:58 PM
Margo, I'm so sorry - but I'm glad that he made it home.

I pray his souls find their way, and that you and the girls find peace.

Ken

Donn
07-18-2004, 05:06 PM
Rest in peace, Dave. Feel free to haunt any of my boats, any time.

"The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make His face to shine upon you and be gracious unto you; the Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace, both now and forever. Amen."

Donn
07-18-2004, 05:21 PM
PS...Dave, say hi to Das for us!

Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
07-18-2004, 05:31 PM
(sigh) :(

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David Tabor (sailordave)
07-18-2004, 05:32 PM
SIGH. . . :(

Oh Margo... Kristy, Angi. Words just won't come.

I'm so sorry. And yet so glad you were able to experience this the way Dave wanted it. Ya done good for the man. Just came in from a walk with my daughter and kept thinking about you guys the whole time.
God Bless you all.
David

Scott Rosen
07-18-2004, 05:34 PM
So sorry.

Ross M
07-18-2004, 05:43 PM

Dave Fleming
07-18-2004, 05:48 PM
Sunset and evening star,

And one clear call for me!

And may there be no moaning of the bar,

When I put out to sea,

But such a tide as moving seems asleep,

Too full for souund and foam,

When that which drew from out the boundless
deep

Turns again home.

Twilight and evening bell,

And after that the dark!

And may there be no sadness of farewell,

When I embark;

For tho' from out our bourne of Time and Place

The flood may bear me far,

I hope to see my Pilot face to face

When I have to cross the bar.

Tennyson, Crossing the Bar

Sail On David Geer, Sail On

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Jack Heinlen
07-18-2004, 05:49 PM
I so sorry.

Even when it's expected...

I'm glad Dave made it home, and that his suffering has ended.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
07-18-2004, 05:53 PM
:( :( :( :( :( :(

"The human spirit is stronger than anything that can happen to it" - George C. Scott

Margo and family my heart and prayers go out to you and yours in your time of grief. I am SO SORRY :(

Concordia..41
07-18-2004, 06:02 PM
The Next Place
by Warren Hanson
ISBN: 0-931674-32-8

The next place that I go
will be as peaceful and familiar
as a sleepy summer Sunday
and a sweet, untroubled mind.

And yet ... it won't be anything
like any place I've ever been ..
or seen ...
or even dreamed of
in the place I leave behind.

I won't know where I'm going
and I won't know where I've been
as I tumble through the always
and look back toward the when.

I'll glide beyond the rainbows.
I'll drift above the sky.
I'll fly into the wonder
without ever wondering why.

I won't remember getting there
Somehow I'll just arrive
But I'll know that I belong there
and will feel much more alive
than I ever felt before.

I will be absolutely free
of the things that I held onto
that were holding onto me.

The next place that I go
will be so quiet and so still
That the whispered song of sweet belonging
will rise up to fill
the listening sky with joyful silence
and with unheard harmonies
of music made by no one playing
like a hush upon a breeze.

There will be no room for darkness
in that place of living light,
Where an everlasting morning
pushes back the dying night.
The very air will fill with brilliance,
as the brightly shining sun,
And the moon and half a million stars
are married into one.

The next place that I go
won't really be a place at all.
There won't be any seasons --
winter, summer, spring or fall.
Nor a Monday or a Sunday,
Nor December or July.
And the seconds will be standing still...
while hours hurry by.

I will not be a boy or girl,
a woman or a man.
I'll simply be, just, simply me.
No worse or better than.
My skin will not be dark or light.
I won't be skinny or tall.
The body I once lived in
won't be part of me at all.

I will be perfect.
I will be without flaw.
I will never make one more mistake,
or break the smallest law.

And the me will simply be a memory,
The me I left behind.

I will travel empty-handed.
There is not a single thing
I have collected in my life
that I would ever want to bring ...

except ...

the love of those who loved me
and the warmth of those who cared.
The happiness and memories
and the magic that we shared.

Though I will know the joy of solitude,
I will never be alone.
I'll be embraced by all of the family and friends
I have ever known.
Although I might not see their faces,
all our hearts will beat as one,
and the circle of our spirits
will shine brighter than the sun.

I will cherish all of the friendships
I was fortunate to find,
all of the love and laugther ...in the place I leave behind.

All of these good things go with me.
They will make my spirit glow.
And that light will shine FOREVER
in the next place that I go.

This is one of the books I bought my son, Matthew (and me!), to help understand what was happening to his Grandpa Dave. I only wish I could share the beautiful illustrations of the book along with the soothing words. Hence, I left the author and ISBN number for you, if you were interested.

He drifted off into a peaceful sleep. No pain, no fear, surrounded by love ... and at home, wrapped in a quilt his mother made him.

Once again, MANY THANKS TO ALL of our friends who have been so loving and caring. Please keep in touch with Margo and continue to uplift her. This has truly been a very, very difficult time, indeed, but I am afraid Margo will be facing some additional challenges along the way.

Happy Trails,

Kristy (and family)

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
07-18-2004, 06:04 PM
:( Sigh, Sob :( :(

Memphis Mike
07-18-2004, 06:07 PM
Margo and Family,

We're real sorry to hear this. :( May God bless and comfort each and every one of you in the coming days.

Mike and Sue

Meerkat
07-18-2004, 06:12 PM
It is a blessing that he made his final harbor in peace, surrounded by his loved ones and at home as he wanted.

I deeply regret your loss. It is ours too. Thank you so much for letting us share, even a little bit, in this very personal moment.

Nora Lee
07-18-2004, 06:45 PM
"Dress me up in me oilskins and jumper
No more on the docks I'll be seen,
Just tell me old shipmates, I'm takin a trip, mates,
And I'll see you someday on Fiddler's Green"

Daves not dead, he's just gone on ahead...to the WBF in the sky.

I am so glad that he was surrounded with those that he loved, and made his exit, from this life on his own terms.

Our prayers are with you all, cherish the memories, celebrate his life!

Nora & Jon

Mike Field
07-18-2004, 07:04 PM
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Hughman
07-18-2004, 07:20 PM
Sail on, Dave.

Margo, Kristy and Angi: He was a lucky man to have you in his life.

Doug Wood
07-18-2004, 07:47 PM
Margo, Kristi and Angi - we're saddened to hear of your loss and will continue to keep you in our thoughts and prayers through these difficult times.

Doug and JoAnne

PaulC
07-18-2004, 07:49 PM
One more star in the sky...

htom
07-18-2004, 08:08 PM
:~~((

I am so sorry. May our prayers aid you in this and the future. Godspeed, Dave, and safely home.

Some Days retired from the rest
In soft distinction lie
The Day that a Companion came
Or was obliged to die -

[Emily Dickenson]

Bob Perkins
07-18-2004, 08:17 PM
:(

Peace

Peter Page
07-18-2004, 08:31 PM
Peace at last.

Roger Stouff
07-18-2004, 08:46 PM
Nea'se, to both of you. :(

huisjen
07-18-2004, 09:03 PM
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Wild Dingo
07-18-2004, 09:35 PM
Although not unexpected I still shed a tear when I woke to see this

Dave faced the wind with a smile and is now waiting just beyond the horizon in that other place he waits
He waits upon an ebb tide sails slack and tiller in hand he waits

No more pain has our friend for he is surrounded by love
The love of family of friends of shipmates near and far
Begin your new journey Dave into adventures unknown while waiting just beyond the horizon
For his firstmate lover friend and wife who one day will finish their beautiful Sarah
And sail over the horizon there to be with you

A mate now gone a mate to see again upon our own lifes ebb tide.

I shall raise a glass and raise my vioce in a long vale this eve to our mate Dave Geer :(

Gawd Margo! Hang on me dear hang on! Kristy and Angi be there for her and each other please! Such a wonderful couple

{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS TO ALL}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

:(

Ed Harrow
07-18-2004, 09:44 PM
"Have you stood by the ocean on a diamond-hard morning
And felt the horizon stir deep in your soul
Watched the wake of a steamer as it cuts through blue water
Been gripped by a fever you just can't control
Oh to throw off the shackles, and fly with the seagulls
To where green waves tumble before a driving sea wind
Or to lie on the decking on a warm summer evening
Watch the red sun fall burning beneath the earth's rim
Chorus
But to every sailor comes time to drop anchor
Haul in the sail, and make the lines fast
You deep water dreamer, your journey is over
You're safe in the harbor at last
You're safe in the harbor at last

Some men are sailors, but most are just dreamers
Held fast to the anchors they forge in their minds
Who in their hearts know they'll never sail over deep water
To search for a treasure they're afraid they won't find
So in sheltered harbors they cling to their anchors
Bank down their boilers and shut down their steam
And wait for the sailors to return with the treasures
That will fan the dull embers and fire up their dreams

And some men are schemers, who laugh at the dreamers
Take the gold from the sailors and turn it to dross
They're men in a prison, they're men without vision
Whose only horizon is profit and loss
So when storm-clouds come sailing across your blue ocean
Hold fast to your dreaming for all that you're worth
For as long as there're dreamers, there will always be sailors
Bringing back their bright treasures from the corners of earth "

Eric Bogle, Safe in the Harbor

Peace ((( :( :( :( )))
Ed

Bruce G
07-18-2004, 09:46 PM
I have no words to describe the tears. I pray that God comforts each of you. :(

John B
07-18-2004, 10:02 PM
Our sincere condolences to you Margo, and family.

John , Kirsty ,and family.