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grumpyoldman
10-24-2012, 11:13 AM
I need a reccomendation for QUALITY pilot hole bits and countersink bits. The ones I have been finding are of such poor quality they are useless. I would prefer a one-piece pilot and countersink bit. Or a pilot bit and a separte countersink bit. Help please.

Donn
10-24-2012, 11:18 AM
I just bought a set of 4 countersink/pilot bits from McMaster Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=new#countersink-drills/=juzulu). They're very high quality, and the drill bits can easily be replaced with the proper-size tapered bits for boat screws. They have them in regular shank and hex-shank.

David G
10-24-2012, 11:38 AM
I generally buy Fuller brand, and am happy.

kc8pql
10-24-2012, 11:50 AM
^ +1 Fullers have served me well for years.

bob winter
10-24-2012, 11:59 AM
Same here, Fullers seems to work fine. I did have to replace one countersink and bit (because it got lost by somebody else) and got the replacement from Lee Valley - couldn't see any difference between the replacement and original.

David G
10-24-2012, 12:23 PM
So... that means - don't buy your tools at Harbor Freight or somesuch. Go to an industrial supplier. Also - keep in mind that bronze fasteners are not as strong as the same size steel fasteners. Especially in hardwoods, one needs to drill the pilot holes a tiny bit larger to avoid twisting off fasteners due to too much resistance.

Donn
10-24-2012, 12:43 PM
I just checked, and the hex-shank models from McMaster-Carr are the Snappy brand. McFeely's and Amazon are a little cheaper, and they also carry Snappys with tapered bits.

grumpyoldman
10-24-2012, 01:02 PM
Thanks everyone for the advise and testimonials. I am ordering Fuller.

BETTY-B
10-24-2012, 01:13 PM
I need a reccomendation for QUALITY pilot hole bits and countersink bits. The ones I have been finding are of such poor quality they are useless. I would prefer a one-piece pilot and countersink bit. Or a pilot bit and a separte countersink bit. Help please.

I'd stick with the Fuller adjustable two piece bits. High quality and always the same. The kits are a good deal. Replace them singly as needed.

http://www.ehardwicks.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WLF-10393008&Store_Code=hwx

http://www.ehardwicks.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WLF-10390001T&Store_Code=hwx

ADDED: It looks like I forgot to press enter while you were choosing wisely! You wont regret them one BIT.

Mrleft8
10-24-2012, 03:06 PM
Fuller. 'Nuff said.

Canoeyawl
10-24-2012, 04:09 PM
Mc Master-Carr sells Fuller bits (http://www.mcmaster.com/#wood-screw-drill-bits/=jv3ktg), and separately, countersinks and stop collars (http://www.mcmaster.com/#countersink-stop-collars/=jv3k6m)
they are available in carbon steel, and high speed steel for countersinking in metal

Peter Malcolm Jardine
10-24-2012, 10:46 PM
I have a full set of Lee Valley bits. excellent.

orbb
10-24-2012, 11:14 PM
I bought the cheap set from Woodcraft (http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005367/13678/22-piece-tapered-drill-set.aspx) and have twisted many apart drilling oak and ash. Very frustrating.

dave10990
10-25-2012, 07:33 AM
When placing the order, get some extra drill bits.

Edward Sturgeon
11-15-2012, 01:06 AM
Lee Valley all the way. I've used a bunch of these things, and while the countersink bits are often quite similar, it's the plug cutters that make the real difference. They cut a tight fitting -slightly- tapered bung. Works good.

Chris Woodward
11-15-2012, 05:50 PM
Make sure that the bits are double fluted. The single flute bits snap really easily. Fuller works for me, the sets are a good start and replace them singly as needed