View Full Version : Will this divert attention from the election Abu Hamza to be deported to the USA

09-24-2012, 02:38 PM
Hopefully these individuals will be tried soon and (if found guilty) will receive appropriate punishment.


Abu Hamza and Babar Ahmad extradition approved

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61512000/jpg/_61512926_014478610-1.jpgBabar Ahmad, 37, has been held in UK custody without trial for nearly eight years

The European Court of Human Rights has given its final approval for the extradition of five major terrorism suspects from the UK to the US.
The court's highest judges said they would not re-open the cases of Abu Hamza al-Masri, Babar Ahmad and others.The decision means that the extradition of the men, wanted for years by the US, is likely to happen within weeks.
The Home Office welcomed the decision, saying it would ensure the extraditions happen as quickly as possible.Each man had said they would face inhumane treatment in the United States if they were sent there.
Abu Hamza is accused of planning a terror training camp in the US and assisting hostage-taking in Yemen.The US says that Babar Ahmad and his co-accused, Syed Talha Ahsan, ran a jihadist website in London that provided material support for terrorism.
Adel Abdul Bary, Khaled Al Fawwaz are accused of being aides to Osama bin Laden in London.
In a statement, the Strasbourg court said: "On 10 April 2012 the European Court of Human Rights held, in the case of Babar Ahmad and Others v. the United Kingdom, that there would be no violation of the applicants' rights if extradited to stand trial in the United States.

Abu Hamza
Babar Ahmad
Syed Talha Ahsan
Adel Abdul Bary
Khaled al-Fawwa

Profiles: UK-held terror suspects (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17662054)"
On 9/10 July 2012, five of the applicants lodged a request for referral of the case to the Grand Chamber. Today the Grand Chamber Panel decided to reject the request. This means that the Chamber judgment of 10 April 2012 is now final."

Abu Hamza had alleged that he faced inhumane and degrading treatment if imprisoned for life without possibility of parole.
The other four men, Babar Ahmad, Syed Talha Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled Al Fawwaz said that they faced an inhumane regime of solitary confinement in a special "supermax" prison.
A Home Office spokesman said: "The Home Secretary welcomes today's decision not to refer the cases of Abu Hamza and four others to the Grand Chamber. This follows the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights on April 10 to allow the extradition of these five terrorism suspects to the US.
"We will work to ensure that the individuals are handed over to the US authorities as quickly as possible."
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63087000/jpg/_63087561_63087560.jpgAbu Hamza could be extradited within weeks
Babar Ahmad's family said: "The decision of the Grand Chamber is largely irrelevant to us as this matter should never have come to this stage had the British police done their job almost nine years ago and provided the material seized from Babar's home to the CPS, rather than secretly passing it to their US counterparts.
"The CPS is now in possession of all that material which forms the basis of the US indictment and should immediately prosecute Babar for conduct allegedly committed in the UK.
"There is enormous public interest in Babar being prosecuted in the UK, as reflected by the fact that almost 150,000 members of the British public signed a government e-petition to this effect last year.
"Moreover, a British businessman Karl Watkins has recently commenced his own private prosecution of Babar based on the principle of the matter.
"We now call on the home secretary to immediately undertake to halt any extradition until the Director of Public Prosecutions makes a decision on this material that been in his possession for several months."

Cuyahoga Chuck
09-24-2012, 05:58 PM
Another case of one thing not having to do with the other. Well at least you are on a roll.
These guys will be salted away pending sumbmission of charges which probably won't occure till next year.

09-24-2012, 08:09 PM
Another case of one thing not having to do with the other. Well at least you are on a roll.

Sorry Chuck, I should have written :"Will a discussion on Abu Hamza who is to be deported to the USA divert attention on this forum from discussing/ranting/etc/etc the impending POTUS election "

Please accept my sincere unreserved apologies or not being precise enough for everyone on the forum.

Trust that this apology will forestall anyone from begging the Moderator press the following button


John of Phoenix
09-24-2012, 08:26 PM
Trust that this apology will forestall anyone from begging the Moderator press the following buttonYou're mighty gun shy about that button. Hopefully it'll keep you from doing anything you'll regret.

More to the topic, it will certainly stir lots of controversy among you reds. Bringing these guys to justice is a little too frightening for you guys. Forget a trial, especially in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. There are terror sleeper cells in every neighborhood waiting for the chance to exact revenge if we stand by our principles. It's far better to just lock them up in GITMO and let 'em rot forever.

09-25-2012, 07:40 AM
Hopefully Blair and nBush will be next to face trial.