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Steamboat
09-24-2012, 02:32 PM
I live in near exit 7A on the turnpike. Dose any one know of a lumber yard where I can get good quality Doug fir or in a pinch yellow pine? The local sawmill is not interested in helping!

Mrleft8
09-24-2012, 09:33 PM
I hesitate to suggest ML Condon in White Plains, NY...... But....
Have you tried searching on WWW.Woodfinder.com ?

JimConlin
09-24-2012, 11:34 PM
In New England, the better lumber yards have DF in 1x4 decking, 4x4 and bigger posts, and 2x6's.

Mrleft8
09-25-2012, 05:47 AM
There's not a lot of D-Fir for a local mill to cut. And Your average lumberyard D-fir will mostly be construction grade, fast grown stock with a high % of sapwood. Which is not good.
Yellow Pine is about the same scenario...... You'll want to search for boat lumber, or hand select your stock from a yard that'll let you.

rmullette
09-25-2012, 08:21 AM
http://www.woodboardsandbeams.com/s4s-pricelist.html Give them a try. Great selection of old and new lumber. They are in Fairfield, NJ not far off rte 287 at rte46 exit. Roger

SMARTINSEN
09-25-2012, 09:02 AM
Douglas Fir is not a native species in the East, and therefore it is not realistic to expect that the local sawmill will have any to cut. You are located in the geographical area where white pine, (pinus strobus) and SYP (mostly pinus taeda) overlap, and those are the typical softwoods that the local sawyer will likely have to work with. Doug Fir is imported from the PNW, either as structural framing lumber at the local yards, or as KD stock from the suppliers of cabinet grade hardwoods.

Have you tried Heath in Trenton? They advertise as being specialists in DF, and perhaps they would let you cull through the stacks (most places will) or be able to order a select grade for you.

The big question is what do you need if for?

Steamboat
09-25-2012, 12:57 PM
http://www.woodboardsandbeams.com/s4s-pricelist.html Give them a try. Great selection of old and new lumber. They are in Fairfield, NJ not far off rte 287 at rte46 exit. Roger

Interesting web site, I'll talk to them for some of my needs.

Steamboat
09-25-2012, 01:07 PM
Douglas Fir is not a native species in the East, and therefore it is not realistic to expect that the local sawmill will have any to cut. You are located in the geographical area where white pine, (pinus strobus) and SYP (mostly pinus taeda) overlap, and those are the typical softwoods that the local sawyer will likely have to work with. Doug Fir is imported from the PNW, either as structural framing lumber at the local yards, or as KD stock from the suppliers of cabinet grade hardwoods.

Have you tried Heath in Trenton? They advertise as being specialists in DF, and perhaps they would let you cull through the stacks (most places will) or be able to order a select grade for you.

The big question is what do you need if for?

Thanks for your input. I will look at Heath in Trenton. I am going to build a Caledonia Yawl and DF was one choice for Keel, Stems etc. Boat will be trailed and stored dry, and used mostly in salt water. Could use yellow pine or other woods. Will be making birds mouth spars and I may want to use an alternative lighter wood for the process. I can get rough cut yellow pine from a local mill but to them I am small potatoes. I think I need to broaden my view of what to use and where to get it from.

SBrookman
09-28-2012, 07:37 AM
Black Locust is available in NJ and would make a good choice for stem and keel.

Steamboat
09-28-2012, 08:41 AM
Black Locust is available in NJ and would make a good choice for stem and keel.

Great suggestion, after a little reading and searching I was leaning in that direction. Wasn't sure, but your advice makes me more confident of that choice. There are a couple of small NJ mills that provide black locust in rough cut lumber.