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  • Meli
    Banned
    • Nov 2010
    • 7163

    A world without borders

    A hypothetical
  • Meli
    Banned
    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Re: A world without borders

    While the refugee status debate rages once more over on Ox pol

    I wonder what the world would look like 20 years after the removal of all borders?

    Imagine the UN, powerful and apolitical, abolished itself after setting up a world parlement.

    I read this book a few years back.
    It's pretty impressive political theory.

    The age of consent


    I imagine that after 20 years of massive migration to and fro across the planet, people would end up more or less where they wanted to be purely on their terms.
    Empoverished countries in the 21st century would, after initial de population, re populate by those with ideas and means to achieve great things.
    Lets face it, there are few countries/places in the world that have NO potential. (except Minnisota and Tasmania )

    Lets play
    Last edited by Meli; 08-08-2012, 03:07 AM.

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    • purri
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 12954

      #3
      Re: A world without borders

      orbrp. yd. goagan uprm a lp.byy.bycrgo jrnrbcanv ORL!
      Xanthorrea

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      • Meli
        Banned
        • Nov 2010
        • 7163

        #4
        Re: A world without borders

        Doshi !!

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        • Syed
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 5607

          #5
          Re: A world without borders

          A word without borders would be a step towards freedom of people.

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          • Meli
            Banned
            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Re: A world without borders

            No, it would just upset Donnnn

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            • Meli
              Banned
              • Nov 2010
              • 7163

              #7
              Re: A world without borders

              Originally posted by Syed
              A word without borders would be a step towards freedom of people.
              Thats what I think too.

              Corporations cant control a workforce that can get up and move.
              War cant exist in everyone can just leave.

              And just think how nice it would be, think of the temporary home swap potential

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              • Flying Orca
                Ruth, feck, and gorm
                • Jan 2007
                • 21319

                #8
                Re: A world without borders

                A world without borders? shudder... Not until the population is down to around ten percent of where it is now, thanks.

                What are you doing about it?



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                • Meli
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7163

                  #9
                  Re: A world without borders

                  Originally posted by Flying Orca
                  A world without borders? shudder... Not until the population is down to around ten percent of where it is now, thanks.
                  america

                  why?
                  spread it around a bit, keep to 2 kids, theres plenty of space in south america, north america australia if it's decentralised

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                  • Arizona Bay
                    Molecules of Freedom
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 6524

                    #10
                    Re: A world without borders

                    I'm all for it! However I suspect it will be 10's of generations before we evolve to the point, where the idea of desoleving boarders could even be introduced in national legislatures.

                    It may be that the coming sea level rise and mass migration from the flooded areas will force the issue.

                    At the moment I'd be happy with a free citizenship exchange.

                    Nation states suck.
                    Greg H. - from before the great crash, 20th century member 108

                    "(T)he Republican Party no longer recognizes the legitimacy of any opposition."

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                    • Meli
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: A world without borders

                      Originally posted by Arizona Bay
                      I'm all for it! However I suspect it will be 10's of generations before we evolve to the point, where the idea of desoleving boarders could even be introduced in national legislatures.

                      It may be that the coming sea level rise and mass migration from the flooded areas will force the issue.

                      At the moment I'd be happy with a free citizenship exchange.

                      Nation states suck.
                      free citizenship exchange only allows the have's to re locate. That's going to do squat

                      Just imagine if the USA tore down it's border with Mexico or we tore down our boarder with indonesia.
                      Initially you'd have chaos. But migrants work hard.
                      Given the right sort of environment and wage regulation, you'd have the good workers of either country working productively, the useless ones can take their still superior education and relatively higher assetts over to mexico where they would have the capital to do something...or not
                      Last edited by Meli; 08-08-2012, 09:14 AM.

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                      • Arizona Bay
                        Molecules of Freedom
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 6524

                        #12
                        Re: A world without borders

                        Originally posted by Meli
                        free citizenship exchange only allows the have's to re locate. That's going to do squat

                        Just imagine if the USA tore down it's border with Mexico or we tore down our boarder with indonesia.
                        Initially you'd have chaos. But migrants work hard.
                        Given the right sort of environment and wage regulation, you'd have the good workers of either country working productively, the useless ones can take their still superior education and relatively higher assetts over to mexico where they would have the capital to do something...or not
                        People do work harder when they are where they want to be.
                        I'd be happy to trade with someone who really wants to be here. All the immigrants I've worked with (legal and illegal) work much harder than a lot of the ' Merican exceptionalists'
                        Greg H. - from before the great crash, 20th century member 108

                        "(T)he Republican Party no longer recognizes the legitimacy of any opposition."

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                        • JimD
                          Senior Mumbler
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 29704

                          #13
                          Re: A world without borders

                          Originally posted by Meli
                          ... keep to 2 kids...
                          Yeah, right. Some Utopia its gonna be. You're already telling the newly found free world how many children they can have. Something tells me this isn't going to end well.
                          There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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                          • Flying Orca
                            Ruth, feck, and gorm
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 21319

                            #14
                            Re: A world without borders

                            Originally posted by Meli
                            america
                            I was thinking more of Canada.

                            Originally posted by Meli
                            why?
                            Lifeboat ethics.

                            What are you doing about it?



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                            • Y Bar Ranch
                              Uberlubber
                              • May 2005
                              • 2968

                              #15
                              Re: A world without borders

                              A world without borders would be good business for people who sell fencing.

                              In South Africa, as soon as they tore down their internal borders, people by necessity began throwing up borders around property and family, which extended into security villages and safety enclaves.
                              It will all be OK in the end...so if it's not OK, you're not at the end.

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