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John Smith
07-25-2012, 04:15 PM
I just watched a bit of "The Five" on Fox News. This is four republicans against one Bob Beckell (?). If you watched this show, they would convince you that Romney's ad on Obama's statement about having help to build a business took nothing out of context.

I don't know if/when this segment will be available to post, but I'll look later.

You've got four of the hosts swearing to what is not true.

Vince Brennan
07-25-2012, 07:44 PM
You misspelled it: "FAUX News"

It's as though Malcolm sat down with the spirits of Goebbels and Billy Sunday, added a touch of Isvestia, shook well and then excreted Faux News.

If you'd have put the Faux News concept in a novel, you'd have been ridden unmercifully for lousy writing. Not even Orwell...

Lew Barrett
07-25-2012, 08:17 PM
I got interviewed by Fox (local channel) at The Bite of Seattle Sunday. I get on TV frequently when I attend events. Maybe they are looking for the fattest guy with a good looking woman they can find; nobody seems to know why they always pick me out in a crowd. When I saw the Fox banner on the camera, I told the guy, while filming, to take it elsewhere....I didn't want to be misquoted. They stopped filming instantly. This is a true story. Ask Lindy.

Paul Pless
07-25-2012, 08:20 PM
I just watched a bit of "The Five" on Fox News. dear god why?

you 'progressives' kill me. . .

Tom Montgomery
07-25-2012, 08:20 PM
Good for you, Lew. Y>

Tom Montgomery
07-25-2012, 08:21 PM
dear god why?
Know your enemy.

bobbys
07-25-2012, 08:28 PM
You misspelled it: "FAUX News"

It's as though Malcolm sat down with the spirits of Goebbels and Billy Sunday, added a touch of Isvestia, shook well and then excreted Faux News.

If you'd have put the Faux News concept in a novel, you'd have been ridden unmercifully for lousy writing. Not even Orwell....

Godwins law in 2!

wardd
07-25-2012, 08:32 PM
we need a law about invoking godwins law

bobbys
07-25-2012, 08:35 PM
I got interviewed by Fox (local channel) at The Bite of Seattle Sunday. I get on TV frequently when I attend events. Maybe they are looking for the fattest guy with a good looking woman they can find; nobody seems to know why they always pick me out in a crowd. When I saw the Fox banner on the camera, I told the guy, while filming, Im a big Sarah Palin fan....I didn't want to be misquoted. Im really hoping for a Romney/Palin ticket This is a true story. Ask my 12 step sponsor.

Misquoted?.

O sure..

:d:d:d

Lew Barrett
07-25-2012, 08:36 PM
Good for you, Lew. Y>

No loss. I never watch my own interviews anyway. Too boring, and the camera does not flatter me. Neither do I like the sound of my own voice when played back to me, which has never stopped me from talking but is something I should probably try to remember at times. Everybody gets their 15 minutes, I just didn't want to waste mine.

David G
07-25-2012, 10:23 PM
.

Misquoted?.

O sure..

:d:d:d

I have a friend who's active in local politics. He's been interviewed a lot both locally, and in DC. He says the odds of being misquoted in any given interview - whether in print, or in the editing of the video - is typically over 50%. He said with Fox News, the odds go up to over 90%... and, amazingly, always to the favor of the network's narrative of the day.

hokiefan
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Some years ago I spent quite a few afternoons at the Savannah/Chatham County School Board meetings. They were discussing an issue at the time that was near and dear. A local reporter noticed I was there regularly and asked my thoughts on the issue. Lets just say she used words I said, but the quote didn't resemble what I said. Despite the slant of her article following my line of thought. Puzzling!

She was writing a series of articles on the subject that were not flattering to the School Board, published 7 of the promised 9 weekly articles. 8 and 9 never showed up... Turns out the School Board hired her as their PR person. One way to shut up an investigative reporter...

Cheers,

Bobby

Gerarddm
07-25-2012, 10:50 PM
Survey earlier this year says that Fox News viewers, by far, are ignorant of what is going on in the world, compared to other news outlets. I am not surprised.

David G
07-25-2012, 10:58 PM
Survey earlier this year says that Fox News viewers, by far, are ignorant of what is going on in the world, compared to other news outlets. I am not surprised.

Yes - it was also found that the longer they listened to Fox News... the less well-informed they became.

bobbys
07-25-2012, 11:23 PM
I have a friend who's active in local politics. He's been interviewed a lot both locally, and in DC. He says the odds of being misquoted in any given interview - whether in print, or in the editing of the video - is typically over 50%. He said with Fox News, the odds go up to over 90%... and, amazingly, always to the favor of the network's narrative of the day..

90 percent?.

WOW!.

Say, could you please show the independent survey on this.

Im sure you friend must have cited from a source..

David G
07-25-2012, 11:27 PM
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90 percent?.

WOW!.

Say, could you please show the independent survey on this.

Im sure you friend must have cited from a source..

Nope... merely an anecdote from an experienced hand. But I suspect most folks already know that... since that's exactly how I presented it.

I'm sure, though, that you can find the study referenced above about Fox News if you're curious.

bobbys
07-25-2012, 11:36 PM
Nope... merely an anecdote from an experienced hand. But I suspect most folks already know that... since that's exactly how I presented it.

I'm sure, though, that you can find the study referenced above about Fox News if you're curious..

You made the claim.

In protocols of argument the burden is on you.

But I suspect we both really know there's no such study....

Maybe your friend was polling liberals here on this forum.

That would compute...

Waddie
07-25-2012, 11:37 PM
I don't get much information from the cable news outlets. Most of them just spin the stories. But Fox News must really get under your skin. That makes them very effective apparently. The rancor they inspire is impressive.... :)

regards,
Waddie

David G
07-25-2012, 11:49 PM
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You made the claim.

In protocols of argument the burden is on you.

But I suspect we both really know there's no such study....

Maybe your friend was polling liberals here on this forum.

That would compute...

Here ya go!

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/671.php?nid=&id=&pnt=671&lb=

http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid/

And to think I was just praising your research skills...

BETTY-B
07-26-2012, 12:01 AM
I think Lew just may possibly be getting close to how he actually talks in real life! You go, Lew!:D

And ya, it's depressing alright. It's not FOX NEWS, it's FOX LIFE. Weird Schmidt, man. How do we make it go away? Seriously. Sheezuz.

Dave Gray
07-26-2012, 12:29 AM
My alarm clock radio is set to Fox News and is clear across the room. This ensures that I get up before the alarm goes off to turn it off.

Lew Barrett
07-26-2012, 01:03 AM
I think Lew just may possibly be getting close to how he actually talks in real life! You go, Lew!:D

And ya, it's depressing alright. It's not FOX NEWS, it's FOX LIFE. Weird Schmidt, man. How do we make it go away? Seriously. Sheezuz.

Hey Dan! Yeah, I have been sporting here the last few days. I guess I'm feeling chipper after a couple of challenging years in the mists. It's nice not to walk around feeling like you are carrying all the weight of the world on your back. Maybe it shows. I'm having fun again. I hope it lasts for awhile. I hate feeling depressed and I'm grateful that I'm not at the moment. Getting busy and starting to believe in yourself makes things go better.

Good catch on your part: I feel different, maybe as you say, I have my voice back.

BETTY-B
07-26-2012, 01:33 AM
Hey Dan! Yeah, I have been sporting here the last few days. I guess I'm feeling chipper after a couple of challenging years in the mists. It's nice not to walk around feeling like you are carrying all the weight of the world on your back. Maybe it shows. I'm having fun again. I hope it lasts for awhile. I hate feeling depressed and I'm grateful that I'm not at the moment. Getting busy and starting to believe in yourself makes things go better.

Good catch on your part: I feel different, maybe as you say, I have my voice back.

That's a helluva post right there. And it lightens the world an appreciated little bit. :- )

John Smith
07-26-2012, 06:07 AM
dear god why?

you 'progressives' kill me. . .

I wanted to see how they were covering the hot political items of the day. They have a lot of viewers. It's not a coincident that those viewers see a different world than others see.

This is representative of the way the Right works. Even on the senate floor the Right would tell us what the ACA said, but not quote the bill. They would quote some third party. Fox would not show the actual clip that Romney's ad was taken from.

John Smith
07-26-2012, 06:11 AM
I don't get much information from the cable news outlets. Most of them just spin the stories. But Fox News must really get under your skin. That makes them very effective apparently. The rancor they inspire is impressive.... :)

regards,
Waddie

They are effective, which is the problem. They have a very large chunk of our population believing stuff that's simply not true. Last year, you may recall, the got caught substituting video from larger rallies to make the one they were supporting look bigger.

The Five still hasn't got yesterday's stuff on their site.

LeeG
07-26-2012, 06:12 AM
That's a helluva post right there. And it lightens the world an appreciated little bit. :- )

Yep, good reminder.

John Smith
07-26-2012, 06:13 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/11/22/374434/fox-news-viewers-misinformed-study-jon-stewart/?mobile=nc (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/11/22/374434/fox-news-viewers-misinformed-study-jon-stewart/?mobile=nc)
http://www.salon.com/2012/04/10/foxs_misinformation_effect/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/university-study-determines-fox-news-has-least-informed-national-audience-based-on-these-questions/
http://www.thenation.com/blog/167999/its-official-watching-fox-makes-you-stupider#

Fox News Misquotes: 155,000 hits
http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en-CA&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fox+news+misinformation+study&meta=&oq=Fox+News+and+mis&gs_l=firefox-hp.1.1.0i30j0i22l9.3978.48356.0.53457.16.16.0.0.0. 0.144.1807.3j13.16.0...0.0...1ac.qo4iRdPkOmY#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&sclient=psy-ab&q=fox+news+misquotes&oq=fox+news+and+misquotes&gs_l=serp.1.0.0i22l2.5735.16021.0.17526.33.22.0.0. 0.6.380.3243.0j19j1j2.22.0...0.0...1c.8JdDa9ek0aY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=458a6400ca03f292&biw=911&bih=407

The question is: how do you get those who watch Fox to see this stuff?

John Smith
07-26-2012, 06:20 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/11/22/374434/fox-news-viewers-misinformed-study-jon-stewart/?mobile=nc (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/11/22/374434/fox-news-viewers-misinformed-study-jon-stewart/?mobile=nc)
http://www.salon.com/2012/04/10/foxs_misinformation_effect/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/university-study-determines-fox-news-has-least-informed-national-audience-based-on-these-questions/
http://www.thenation.com/blog/167999/its-official-watching-fox-makes-you-stupider#

Fox News Misquotes: 155,000 hits
http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en-CA&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fox+news+misinformation+study&meta=&oq=Fox+News+and+mis&gs_l=firefox-hp.1.1.0i30j0i22l9.3978.48356.0.53457.16.16.0.0.0. 0.144.1807.3j13.16.0...0.0...1ac.qo4iRdPkOmY#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&sclient=psy-ab&q=fox+news+misquotes&oq=fox+news+and+misquotes&gs_l=serp.1.0.0i22l2.5735.16021.0.17526.33.22.0.0. 0.6.380.3243.0j19j1j2.22.0...0.0...1c.8JdDa9ek0aY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=458a6400ca03f292&biw=911&bih=407
I was a bit taken with Romney's answer about attacks on people.

Hasn't his Party been attacking teachers and other public employees? Aren't they people? Maybe we should establish that people are corporations and he and his colleagues would have more respect for them.

Phillip Allen
07-26-2012, 06:21 AM
John, Dan Rather mislead us for years and so did the other alphabet 'news' sources... now there are a 'Rather' large segment of the lefties here who listen to Fox without fail

John Smith
07-26-2012, 07:36 AM
And there's this
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-25-2012/democalypse-2012---do-we-look-stupid--don-t-answer-that-edition---grammatical-gaffes

David G
07-26-2012, 08:27 AM
Hey Dan! Yeah, I have been sporting here the last few days. I guess I'm feeling chipper after a couple of challenging years in the mists. It's nice not to walk around feeling like you are carrying all the weight of the world on your back. Maybe it shows. I'm having fun again. I hope it lasts for awhile. I hate feeling depressed and I'm grateful that I'm not at the moment. Getting busy and starting to believe in yourself makes things go better.

Good catch on your part: I feel different, maybe as you say, I have my voice back.

OK... where's that danged 'LIKE' button?

David G
07-26-2012, 10:13 AM
bs,

No more bs to offer? No deflections? No misreading of the evidence? No ignorant assertions that you're unable to back up? No off-topic one-liners? No misguided misinterpretations of fact? No fish stories designed to distract from the main point? Nuttin'?????

Figured as much.

wardd
07-26-2012, 10:34 AM
i find it literally nauseating watching fox and feel a certain amount of shame for my species that there are those that believe fox and keep on believing fox when time after time the truth is pointed out

Kaa
07-26-2012, 10:50 AM
It does look like the left side of the Bilge religiously watches Fox :-)

I guess the high of the righteous indignation and the opportunity to congratulate oneself on being superior to all that rabble are an irresistible siren's call :-D

Kaa

wardd
07-26-2012, 10:53 AM
It does look like the left side of the Bilge religiously watches Fox :-)

I guess the high of the righteous indignation and the opportunity to congratulate oneself on being superior to all that rabble are an unresistable siren's call :-D

Kaa

i don't watch it for more than a couple mins at a time, that's all i can stomach

Donn
07-26-2012, 11:07 AM
I don't get much information from the cable news outlets. Most of them just spin the stories. But Fox News must really get under your skin. That makes them very effective apparently. The rancor they inspire is impressive.... :)

regards,
Waddie

Effective and successful. From Wiki:


The Five debuted in July 2011, winning its time slot.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_%28TV_program%29#cite_note-5) Since then the show has seen broader success, some nights even rivaling Beck's former audience.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_%28TV_program%29#cite_note-nytimes-3) The Five consistently beats its competitors on MSNBC and CNN combined, and ranks among the top 10 cable-news shows.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_%28TV_program%29#cite_note-gutfeld-6) In addition, the show is paying off more with advertisers, who were reluctant to be associated with the controversial content of Beck's show.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_%28TV_program%29#cite_note-gutfeld-6) The Five was the sixth-most-watched cable-news program for the third quarter of 2011 and the first quarter of 2012.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_%28TV_program%29#cite_note-7)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_%28TV_program%29#cite_note-8)

Lew Barrett
07-26-2012, 11:36 AM
It does look like the left side of the Bilge religiously watches Fox :-)

I guess the high of the righteous indignation and the opportunity to congratulate oneself on being superior to all that rabble are an irresistible siren's call :-D

Kaa

I don't. I prefer my news less processed, and with fewer additives!

John Smith
07-27-2012, 08:57 AM
Today, finally, the segment I watched is on their website. Wonder if they delay this so much for a purpose

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-five/index.html