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MattL
06-16-2012, 12:45 AM
I think it was a year or two ago someone posted a thread about setting up a chalange to weight loss. I've been trying to do that since, gained about 15 lbs. but this week I am doing something different.
Monday I started a liquid diet.
Wedensday I went to the hospital and had a gastric bypass surgery done.
Tuesday was not fun
Friday, today, feeling fine not hungry at all, still on a liquid diet. Liquids for about a week then I'll get some mush. Next month I'll get some solid food again.
Anyone else here done anything like this?

MattL
06-16-2012, 12:47 AM
Oh starting weight 279, diabetic, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, and cholosterol, heart stient put in in 2006.

johnw
06-16-2012, 01:18 AM
I'm glad to hear you're doing something about it, but it's a shame it took surgery. A friend has managed to lose about 25 lb., but he figures he needs to lose more than 100 lb. more. He no longer has to inject insulin, which is big progress. I'm cheering for him, and for you, too.

Glen Longino
06-16-2012, 02:57 AM
I'm a naturally skinny hombre, but good luck to you, Matt!

purri
06-16-2012, 04:11 AM
Lose 100lbs by a fairly low carb moderated diet, walking at a moderate though at increasing distance to 10 kms at a pace to 7 kmh and swim intervals. Keep at it.

Paul Pless
06-16-2012, 04:51 AM
Goodluck Matt!

BrianW
06-16-2012, 06:05 AM
From what i've seen, the bypass is no free ride. Certainly hope it works for you.

To be honest, the fact you're only 279lbs, and had the surgery, makes me a bit nervous. ;)

skuthorp
06-16-2012, 06:08 AM
Good luck indeed. Some of course eat their way into obeseness but for many it's medical or genetic. I inherited my father's sparse weight with slightly heavier bones from mum. Another brother inherited grandfather's sides tendency to overweight and water retention and has struggled with it since his 40's. Luck.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
06-16-2012, 06:20 AM
In my case its a combination of stopping smoking and being increasingly sedentary. It does not help that I am a cheese addict!

Need to lose 35lbs, I reckon to get to the point where my self image chimes with reality.

Trying sticking to muesli, vegetables, fresh fruit and water.

And walking, cycling and the gym

skuthorp
06-16-2012, 06:27 AM
I can recommend an overgrown few acres and a creek choked with woody weed as a way of keeping fit..................

Mrleft8
06-16-2012, 06:28 AM
I've lost over 50Lbs in a little over the last year...... Not on purpose. I'm eating more than ever, and it certainly seems like I'm doing a lot less physical exercise/work, but I keep losing weight..... No one seems to be able to figure it out. All blood tests, MRIs, Cat scans, spinal taps, etc. show no evil parasites, or cancers, but what ever it is, is eating me faster than I'm eating other things..... If they ever figure out what it is, I'll bottle it and sell it on the internet, for you hefty guys..... I started out 2011 @175Lbs (6'2")..... Now I'm about 120Lbs.... :(

Shang
06-16-2012, 06:34 AM
Good luck, Matt.
Keep us posted.

Phillip Allen
06-16-2012, 06:38 AM
Oh starting weight 279, diabetic, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, and cholosterol, heart stient put in in 2006.

sounds just like, me... started at close to 270... all the other stuff fits... 64 this fall

Phillip Allen
06-16-2012, 06:40 AM
I think it was a year or two ago someone posted a thread about setting up a chalange to weight loss. I've been trying to do that since, gained about 15 lbs. but this week I am doing something different.
Monday I started a liquid diet.
Wedensday I went to the hospital and had a gastric bypass surgery done.
Tuesday was not fun
Friday, today, feeling fine not hungry at all, still on a liquid diet. Liquids for about a week then I'll get some mush. Next month I'll get some solid food again.
Anyone else here done anything like this?

My son-in-law had the bypass done last year... lost a lot of weight and doesn't graze so much (if at all)

spirit
06-16-2012, 06:51 AM
If you are only 20-50 pounds overweight, like many of us, the easiest way to lose weight is to take in less calories than you normally burn. (Duh.)
If your weight is stable, then you are taking in as many calories as you burn. (Also duh.)
So there are two things to do, and both are a good idea.
(1) Get a little more exercise, like walking a hour twice a week. This adds muscle which burns calories faster than fat does.
(2) Eat 500 calories less every day. This adds up to 3500/week, and the number of calories in one pound of adipose tissue. So you lose one pound a week. How hard is this? Eat exactly as you have been, minus 500. Skim milk instead of whole milk. Half a glass of orange juice instead of a whole glass. Half of a big supper. Toast without butter etc. Not difficult. I call it the "Minus 500 diet."

If you are 100-200 pounds overweight, the Minus 500 will work, but so slowly that you may prefer surgery.

Lincoln MD

Phillip Allen
06-16-2012, 06:57 AM
I can lose by eating 'right' except for that to work, someone else needs to prepare those meals... don't argue, I"ve tried and tried

LeeG
06-16-2012, 06:58 AM
I've lost over 50Lbs in a little over the last year...... Not on purpose. I'm eating more than ever, and it certainly seems like I'm doing a lot less physical exercise/work, but I keep losing weight..... No one seems to be able to figure it out. All blood tests, MRIs, Cat scans, spinal taps, etc. show no evil parasites, or cancers, but what ever it is, is eating me faster than I'm eating other things..... If they ever figure out what it is, I'll bottle it and sell it on the internet, for you hefty guys..... I started out 2011 @175Lbs (6'2")..... Now I'm about 120Lbs.... :(

WTF?, sorry but sounds like my daughter a couple years ago.

LeeG
06-16-2012, 07:01 AM
good luck Matt. Something I've tried that's taken a few lbs off was simply not buying bread and bringing it home.

Phillip Allen
06-16-2012, 07:04 AM
good luck Matt. Something I've tried that's taken a few lbs off was simply not buying bread and bringing it home.

I could do a bit of that but my 13 year old granddaughter often stays with me for weeks at a time... gotta feed her... what a whiner if there isn't kid food around

Katherine
06-16-2012, 07:14 AM
Is there an aftercare program to help you adjust to your new lifestyle? It is possible to out eat the surgery. Some people never make the lifestyle changes that are needed to make the surgery work long term.

Shang
06-16-2012, 07:19 AM
good luck Matt. Something I've tried that's taken a few lbs off was simply not buying bread and bringing it home.

Agreed! Store-bought bread isn't much different than eating the same amount of sugar. Learn to bake your own whole wheat bread, and how to regulate how much of it you eat, there are plenty of recipes on line.

LeeG
06-16-2012, 07:22 AM
Agreed! Store-bought bread isn't much different than eating the same amount of sugar. Learn to bake your own whole wheat bread, and how to regulate how much of it you eat, there are plenty of recipes on line.

It's kind of weird what a comfort food carbs are, I'd buy a loaf of bread and by the end of the day 2/3 of it was gone.

Mrleft8
06-16-2012, 07:24 AM
WTF?, sorry but sounds like my daughter a couple years ago.

Dunno, Lee..... I've been to every specialist, from one end to the other, and aside from Lyme disease, they can't find anything..... If I was a teen aged girl, I'd say it was a phase.... But I've been 160-180 for the last 30 years.... I lost some weight when I had cancer surgery 4 years ago, but I gained that back in a few months..... Actually..... My blood and enzyme levels are all better than they've been in many years..... It's almost enough to make me start drinking again, just to see if that'll help....

BrianW
06-16-2012, 07:30 AM
Is there an aftercare program to help you adjust to your new lifestyle? It is possible to out eat the surgery. Some people never make the lifestyle changes that are needed to make the surgery work long term.

I know at least one woman who had the procedure, and didn't get any smaller.

Lets see how Paul does with the bike, before you decide he needs surgery.

Ted Hoppe
06-16-2012, 07:50 AM
I believe in the power of the vegan diet. Cut out white flour, booze, sugar, milk products and most soy. Has the power to fix your body with nutrition from damn near anything. I know the successes of ridding diabetes, overweight, high blood pressure, arthritis, hepatitis and even cancer. It is returning to the basics of good food and excersise after every meal.

Good luck to you. Glad you are making steps to be healthier.

Shang
06-16-2012, 07:51 AM
eat fish one meal every day and vegetables twice a day no booze.

What ripley is suggesting will work, but that sounds like too much fish. A lot of our fish nowdays are "farm" raised and contain many nasty things.

I'd suggest fish two or three meals during the week, lots of vegetables, no more than one egg a day, and a glass of red wine in the evening (oh all RIGHT, two glasses if you're a guy). Lay off beef, pork and chicken, all are about the same re. high fat and high calorie.

But don't take my word for this as a weight-loss plan, I'm not expert. However, I'm taking off about a pound a week--my goal for the summer is 7 or 8 more pounds in addition to the 4 or 5 I've already dropped.
I'm pumping iron on a regular program, five days a week.

George Jung
06-16-2012, 08:14 AM
Lots of well-intentioned advice, but unfortunately, doesn't take into account your diabetes. Your doc should have you seeing a diabetic team - including dieticians, maybe an endocrinologist. As you lose the weight, your blood sugars are going to (likely) drop, requiring adjustments in your meds (if you're on any). But they're right about being able to 'beat' the by-pass - I've seen too many folk lose 100 plus pounds with this, only to gain it back. Some lived on milkshakes 24/7. Concurrent counseling helps immensely. An aside - just heard a 'big dog' researcher talk about just this; abdominal adiposity causes all sorts of problems for heart disease and diabetes - and the gastric bypass has a rather remarkable, beneficial effect on the hormones responsible. Bottom line - don't follow too much of the advice given here, however much we'd like to help. Follow your docs/teams advice. Hang in there.

McMike
06-16-2012, 08:29 AM
Good Luck.

David G
06-16-2012, 08:37 AM
Good Luck. You'll feel happier being closer to your 'ideal' weight. I wish I had good advice for ya, but my recent weight loss (225 to 170) was the result of cancer surgery and radiation treatments. Not a weight loss regimen I'd recommend. But I can say that my feet, legs, and knees are a definitely a bit happier after a day in the shop. I hope your plan works for you!

David W Pratt
06-16-2012, 01:42 PM
My problem is redistribution, I'm 12 lb heavier than when I got married (~4o years) but more fat. less muscle.
But did just do a 3 day mini-cruise, raising the 305 sq ft gaff main

johnw
06-16-2012, 01:53 PM
Dunno, Lee..... I've been to every specialist, from one end to the other, and aside from Lyme disease, they can't find anything..... If I was a teen aged girl, I'd say it was a phase.... But I've been 160-180 for the last 30 years.... I lost some weight when I had cancer surgery 4 years ago, but I gained that back in a few months..... Actually..... My blood and enzyme levels are all better than they've been in many years..... It's almost enough to make me start drinking again, just to see if that'll help....

That cannot be healthy. When that happened to me, it was diabetes, when it happened to my best friend, it was Graves disease. Have they checked your thyroid function?

bobbys
06-16-2012, 02:04 PM
If anyone wants to lose weight come and stay with me for a month.

My wife never goes in the kitchen to cook anything...

Course i stay pleasingly plump with a stash of cookies and Lucky charms and hungry Man TV dinners

I will not share if you come here.

Course you have to watch...

What not to wear.

Say yes to the dress.

The English Nanny.

Jerseyliscous.

Top model.

Mrleft8
06-17-2012, 07:27 AM
That cannot be healthy. When that happened to me, it was diabetes, when it happened to my best friend, it was Graves disease. Have they checked your thyroid function?

Blood sugar is excellent (always has been), thyroid function is normal. Liver function, spleen, kidneys, pancreas, etc. all perfect or close to it....

Paul Pless
06-17-2012, 09:12 AM
Blood sugar is excellent (always has been), thyroid function is normal. Liver function, spleen, kidneys, pancreas, etc. all perfect or close to it....

So its in your head then. Or maybe you have worms?

beernd
06-17-2012, 11:42 AM
Lots of well-intentioned advice, but unfortunately, doesn't take into account your diabetes. Your doc should have you seeing a diabetic team - including dieticians, maybe an endocrinologist. As you lose the weight, your blood sugars are going to (likely) drop, requiring adjustments in your meds (if you're on any). But they're right about being able to 'beat' the by-pass - I've seen too many folk lose 100 plus pounds with this, only to gain it back. Some lived on milkshakes 24/7. Concurrent counseling helps immensely. An aside - just heard a 'big dog' researcher talk about just this; abdominal adiposity causes all sorts of problems for heart disease and diabetes - and the gastric bypass has a rather remarkable, beneficial effect on the hormones responsible. Bottom line - don't follow too much of the advice given here, however much we'd like to help. Follow your docs/teams advice. Hang in there.

+1 for the "Follow your docs/teams advice"

For decades the obesity problem has been discussed, and a myriad of "succes" diets/formulas have been made and torn to bits later.

Just for laughs, follow the discussion on fat as a source of obesity, highly amusing.

But it is easy for me to talk, because I could eat a horse, and the saddle and still not gain a gramme.

Oh Whatever, talk to and listen to your doc.

Gerarddm
06-17-2012, 12:26 PM
The Zone diet.

MattL
06-17-2012, 01:49 PM
OK, first off good luck to all those that mentioned having problems with cancer, etc. my father went through a 2 year cancer diet. Not very fun for him.

Someone asked about follow ups. let me just give a quick run down of what I have gone through

First Seminar: learn about the differrent surgeries, benifits, porblems of each. etc.
Second meet for a second lecture more specific about diet and the surgeries
next get comfermation from primary care doctor and cardiac doctor if you have one
next consult with physiatrist to go over mental health.
get lab work done.
Pre op and surgery.
In all this you also have to get insurance taken care of. I had had a stient put in a few years ago so I needed to get a tread mill test before the cardiologist would clear me.
labs also include ekg, chest xray, and blood work.

While in the hospital I had diaticians come see me, I think that's normal for hospital visit anyway. and a nurse from the Baratriac dept came too. Slim good looking lady. she told me she had the surgery 6 years ago.

I have post op on tuesday, today is Sunday.
they have on line meetings, and meeting you can go to monthly or more often for support. I was given a pretty extensive list of what I can eat and when I can start eating it. In other words, I think the follow up is there.

What they did say is "this is a tool, you can use it to loose weight." In other words if you don't make the life style changes you will gain weight back.

OK last thing, surgery was last Wedensday, this morning the scale was 7 pounds lighter. Then I went for a mile and a half walk. I think the weather is already in the 90s so I'm taking a break now.

Mrleft8
06-17-2012, 03:05 PM
So its in your head then. Or maybe you have worms?

Maybe I have worms in my head..... That would explain a lot...... :D

skipper68
06-17-2012, 11:52 PM
BS I'm packing it on for 12/21/2012. I learned the Donner party had only the "Robustly Healthy" wimmen did good! I make it to Jan. I'll look "DAYM"in a month.LOL!:D

Kaa
06-18-2012, 10:35 AM
Losing weight is simple: eat less.

It's trying to make this process pleasant that's complicated :-)

Kaa

George Jung
06-18-2012, 06:01 PM
Pleasant. Or even palatable....

pefjr
06-18-2012, 09:46 PM
Aerobic exercise, and low carb diet will shrink your stomach. Stay on it but treat yourself with a candy bar, or ice cream once every week to ten days. Pretty soon you will see a big enough difference you will not want the treat and make it a life style change. Weigh every morning. Drink tons of water. No beer, one alcoholic drink(1 oz) a day, one diet soda. Guaranteed, or double your money back.

JayInOz
06-18-2012, 10:07 PM
On Friday I had all my top teeth pulled out in the dentists chair- would have been another thousand dollars to have it done under anaesthetic in the hospital. Since then I've eaten two tiny little tubs of yoghurt and three bowls of pumpkin soup- and lots and lots of seemingly ineffective painkillers. Athough with all the codeine I've taken it's probably just as well that I can't eat- 'cause I'll probably never poop again:( JayInOz