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Paul Pless
06-02-2012, 07:50 AM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/5/30/1338397845911/Everest-climbers-form-a-l-001.jpg

That was last weekend, and created a bottleneck in which four climbers died waiting for the route to clear so that they could descend. Another three were missing. So far this year there have been eleven deaths.

botebum
06-02-2012, 07:52 AM
Seems like they could better manage the expeditions but apparently it's more like Walmart on a Saturday with only two lanes open.
It's all about the money.

Doug

S.V. Airlie
06-02-2012, 08:28 AM
I've been following this. Also wondering with the increase in traffic has anything to do with Hillary's 60th anniversary of his climb which would be in 2013.

JimD
06-02-2012, 08:48 AM
Is that photo at a 40 degree angle?

S.V. Airlie
06-02-2012, 08:52 AM
I don't think so.

Phillip Allen
06-02-2012, 08:54 AM
and you guys want to promote tourism
politicos are the ones who want tourism... it causes a larger revenue stream to skim from

S.V. Airlie
06-02-2012, 08:57 AM
It's a two edged sword Phillip.

Paul Pless
06-02-2012, 08:59 AM
There are positive and negatives to promoting tourism. I think the positives may out way the negatives. . .

JimD
06-02-2012, 08:59 AM
I don't think so.Are those yellow things tents? Who sets up a big camp on a slope like that?

BrianW
06-02-2012, 09:00 AM
Is that photo at a 40 degree angle?

I'm looking at the people, and they appear to be defying gravity, and sticking out almost 90 from the angle of the slope.

JimD
06-02-2012, 09:00 AM
I'm looking at the people, and the appear to be defying gravity, and sticking out almost 90 from the angle of the slope.Yup

botebum
06-02-2012, 09:02 AM
and you guys want to promote tourism
politicos are the ones who want tourism... it causes a larger revenue stream to skim fromConsidering the fact that you're from Arkysaw, I can understand how you'd not understand the benefits of tourism.

What's the biggest draw in your state? The Walmart headquarters in Bentonville?
:D

Doug

Paul Pless
06-02-2012, 09:05 AM
So here's the most ridiculous thing about Everest to me.

http://mmsummits7.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/khumbuicefallladder.jpg

Paul Pless
06-02-2012, 09:07 AM
What's the biggest draw in your state? The Walmart headquarters in Bentonville?
:D

Doug

LOL, there's some pretty good fishing (world record)there. And some mighty fine white water. . .

botebum
06-02-2012, 09:07 AM
So here's the most ridiculous thing about Everest to me.Hey! Let's not deride the value of a good extension ladder!
Some of us making a living on them, ya know.

Doug

botebum
06-02-2012, 09:08 AM
LOL, there's some pretty good fishing (world record)there. And some mighty white water. . .I know that. Shhhh. I yanking Phillip's chain.

Doug

Phillip Allen
06-02-2012, 09:13 AM
Considering the fact that you're from Arkysaw, I can understand how you'd not understand the benefits of tourism.

What's the biggest draw in your state? The Walmart headquarters in Bentonville?
:D

Doug

tourism turns us into a kind of whore... you know that Doug

BrianW
06-02-2012, 09:15 AM
tourism turns us into a kind of whore...

A dirty whore?

Tell us more, we're bored.

:D

S.V. Airlie
06-02-2012, 09:17 AM
Phillip didn't you go camping and fishing just a few weeks ago?

BrianW
06-02-2012, 09:18 AM
This looks better, at least to me...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/BrianW/everest.jpg

S.V. Airlie
06-02-2012, 09:19 AM
Mother nature is a whore? lol.

Phillip Allen
06-02-2012, 09:21 AM
Mother nature is a whore? lol.

tourism is about 'service'... not about mother nature. That is why we've turned Yellow Stone in to a hot dog stand

botebum
06-02-2012, 09:23 AM
Mother nature is a whore? lol.Not sure about that but it seems that every time she's under the control of a Republican administration, she's certainly screwed.

Doug

S.V. Airlie
06-02-2012, 09:27 AM
As I have said, there are pros and cons regarding the proper use our lands etc Phillip. Would you rather have trees cut down instead of a hot dog stand, mining, factories would be so nice.

S.V. Airlie
06-02-2012, 09:40 AM
This is what gets me. Every business involving tourism should be responsible for the removal of this stuff. Something like a min of 50% of it's profits.
http://www.outdoor-weblog.com/wp-content/uploads/7701662.jpg

bobbys
06-02-2012, 10:54 AM
Here is a pic when i went up the south face of Everest..

Glenn made me carry his beer!

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http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0036/2852/files/Climbing_in_Alaska_-_The_Yukon_Gold_Trail_480x425.jpg?1287164555

Gerarddm
06-02-2012, 10:56 AM
Airlie, for once I completely agree with you. There is tonnage of waste up on Everest, including human fecal waste.

I bet lots of the wealthy folk will start opting for Virgin Galactic flights soon and then the pressures on Everest will ease off.

L.W. Baxter
06-02-2012, 07:35 PM
There is no alternative universe in which I would be willing to wait in line to summit a mountain. It is a self-contradicting proposition on every level.

botebum
06-02-2012, 07:49 PM
There is no alternative universe in which I would be willing to wait in line to summit a mountain. It is a self-contradicting proposition on every level.I can understand why some people would wait in line to do it. I wouldn't.
Others wouldn't wait in line for coffee in the morning but there I am:rolleyes:

Doug

SamSam
06-02-2012, 08:19 PM
Airlie, for once I completely agree with you. There is tonnage of waste up on Everest, including human fecal waste.

I bet lots of the wealthy folk will start opting for Virgin Galactic flights soon and then the pressures on Everest will ease off.
There's something like 150 bodies still up there, some for decades. Some are used as landmarks for navigating up and down the mountain. It's not unusual to pass people that are still alive and talking and you have to leave them (going up and down) because there's no way to carry them or helping them will slow you down and you'll die too.

purri
06-02-2012, 08:24 PM
Cerebral oedemas claim a few, same for the Bilge...

Phillip Allen
06-02-2012, 08:27 PM
There's something like 150 bodies still up there, some for decades. Some are used as landmarks for navigating up and down the mountain. It's not unusual to pass people that are still alive and talking and you have to leave them (going up and down) because there's no way to carry them or helping them will slow you down and you'll die too.

Darwin sez no...

Chip-skiff
06-02-2012, 08:46 PM
Tilting climbing photos is SOP for dramatic effect. But you can always spot the dodge: ropes hang straight down and people stand straight up.

A friend from Wyoming, Mark Jenkins, has been up there with the National Geographic Pony Show:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/aig.html

Never cared for that sort of destination-peak mob scene.

bobbys
06-02-2012, 09:01 PM
There's something like 150 bodies still up there, some for decades. Some are used as landmarks for navigating up and down the mountain. It's not unusual to pass people that are still alive and talking and you have to leave them (going up and down) because there's no way to carry them or helping them will slow you down and you'll die too..

I can understand why as you might not have enough Oxygen but its still a bit cruel and weird to sit there dieing as people cross off their bucket lists.