Wizbang MK 2 new build

[wizbang 13]

Time to get a building the new 2 cycle devil boat.
I have 2 , 25hp mercs. One is a short shaft and one is long. I had used the shorty on the earlier boat, but as it has been underwater, um, twice, I will use the long shaft with this new boat.
The plan is to make the transom 6" higher and the "breakaway wings" longer. This will give me room to stuff some foam back there, and might let me put a reverse sheer on her. The short shaft used to take a dunking every time the boat slowed down anyway.
The actual bottom , the part in the water @ 30mph, will be the same.
5 feet of 3/8 meranti and 8 feet of quarter inch meranti scarphed together.
Here is the model, taken apart ,of the old boat.http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1087/5149760224_c98b13d65b_z_d.jpgI will use occume ply for the sides and deck ,6mm and 4mm, and alaska cedar instead of khaya for stringers, to save weight.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/6928874116_efb34dd93c_z_d.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5321/6928875622_ea879d2553_z_d.jpgDeja Voodoo. When this bit of west and 403 kick off, I will draw up the rocker and bow. The transom is 10 inches wider in addition to 6" taller. I built a flatbed of two by fours on the trailer. Make life a lil easier. The first boat was built in 60 hours time, but I may just mosey along a bit slower with this one, which I may call BINGO!

[chas]

I think we need a good picture of MK 1, not the one of her upside down on the beach. And I need to mark this thread. / Jim

"Bingo" is confidence. Oddly, I was imagining you driving to destruction in order to build the next one better. LOL

[wizbang 13]

here Ya go Jim, In better days. http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4148/5193446973_7ddd6de42c_z_d.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4052/4647908576_ab7b3cfcdd_z_d.jpgWhen Wizbang was brand new, she carried a 40 merc. This was over the top fast.One can see how the short shaft put the mill right into the sea.

[Breakaway]

Be watchin this.

Kevin

[BBSebens]

Sweet. I've been looking forward to Wizbang II. BINGO is a great name. Think you can make a debut at the PT Wooden Boat Festival?

[David G]

That would be nice to see Bingo at PT.

You're not gonna paint just one side of her, are ya? <G>

[gilberj]

I'll watch it coming together too....

[johnw]

This will be fun.

[trango]

Very interesting!

/F

[JoshuaIII]

Hey you are building a new shoe! :)

Just teasing... Looking forward to it.

[Mad Scientist]

Another 'sticky' thread, I bet!

Tom

[skaraborgcraft]

i will be interested to know how much 406 you go through on this one. Go for it!

[Garret]

Wait a sec. 2 25 hp Merc's? Why not build a dual level transom & put the longshaft on one side & the short on the other? If 40HP was overpowered, 50 should be just right!

;)

[wizbang 13]

Sweet. I've been looking forward to Wizbang II. BINGO is a great name. Think you can make a debut at the PT Wooden Boat Festival?
sheeeeit,,,, Bingo will debut at Oly Boat fair, in 3 n a half weeks. By Port Townsend she will be all scratched and beat up.

[Lew Barrett]

We will discover just how tough you really are! WELCOME HOME!

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7231/6932074754_93fd1c4a63_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/6932076602_e6463afc6e_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7096/6932078098_646d13cb09_z_d.jpg The bottom forward two thirds is quarter inch, back by the engine is three eights ply. This bend is not easy, or fast. Take it a bit at a time. It's a 6 pack bend. And you can see some fracturating. The bow will be planed down a few inches, NOT with a stinking hand tool.( heh heh).
Remember, this type of building is "floppy". There is no strong back. Only a few chunks of lead and some strings. That said, a speed boat is not a sailboat. In other words, when this boat is "going" , only 8" of it is in the water. If the bow wags off a bit., no big ting, cuz it is a foot out of the water. A sailboat? One would have to slow WAY down in the building to make her straight. Unless You want to sail, literary, "around " the world.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5235/7080798055_8c174786bf_z_d.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5117/6934742130_53714065b0_z_d.jpgHERE, I have to slow down a bit and make sure this is going to work, walk around, smoke a , um , cigar, and be dang sure of my visualization , and of course trust the model.

[skaraborgcraft]

Looking good...keep em coming. Cheers

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7115/6939083608_e20982713d_z_d.jpgfancy ply scarphin http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/7085157853_a79645d846_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/7085161277_eb84c1e059_z_d.jpgthe "breakaway chine" can be seen herehttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5231/6939087300_b0e0f7283f_z_d.jpgbottom stringers will be fit after the hull is shaped

[johnw]

Shat do the wings do?

[wizbang 13]

Hi John,
The "wings" act as both "breakaway" chines, that they let go , or, come out of the water, at high speed, allowing the boat to go faster when going FAST while straight. The beam of the transom is 68" but when she is "broken out" there is only 48" in the water. Boat has to be light though.
Also, they carry a deeper v, (deadrise, but you know what deadrise is),than the center of the hull, and soften the edges , acting as non trip chines, which make the boat safer in high speed cornering. They do not "dig in" , non trip chines do the opposite, they let go of the water. A "Hard" hard chine can suddenly "bite" when cornering and at the very least , slam the occupants against the side, or just plain ol flip the boat. Most of these ol style runabouts would have a little fin or two, I find a fin to steal a little speed. So this boat will do a lot of sliding around, but quickly!
Each one of these I build, the breakaway chine is a bit more extreme. No computer modeling here, that is for sure, just seat of the pants experience.I mean experimenting.

[John B]

Loving this thread.!

[johnw]

Thanks, Bruce, that's an interesting feature.

[Breakaway]

Many deep V powerboat hulls have a similar chine setup; perhaps not the same geometry, but the principle of reduced resistance is the same. Boats by Ray Hunt, Lou Codega and Martin Peter's come to mind. Were you to see a Hunt Surhunter or a Regulator, for some examples I have first-hand knowledge of, the chines are mostly flying high of the W/L even at rest. Some static stability is sacrificed since they have to heel a bit more before hitting the chine, but resistance is reduced and spray deflection retained.

Neato for Bingo

kevin

[Canoez]

sheeeeit,,,, Bingo will debut at Oly Boat fair, in 3 n a half weeks. By Port Townsend she will be all scratched and beat up.

Man you work fast, Bruce.

Bingo? I was thinking she should be named Don't Look Back.

:: Ducking and running ::::

:d

[Garret]

At least you didn't suggest "On The Rocks"

[I'm right behind you & will you please run faster!!!] :p

[JoshuaIII]

Ok I could not resist.....

SAFTS sound a marvelous name, Stay Away From The Shore :)

Ok it can also stand for "We love your bruce" it's just the letter doesn't fit!

[potomac]

Wooden SEAL (SEa, Air, Land)? Lacks the pizzazz of Wizbang. How about "More Wiz, Less Bang?" I'm checking the other thread to make sure that wasn't already taken.

[potomac]

Re: More Wiz, Less Bang, it was a bit of take off of what Ian and Larks said. Not sure it'll fit on the transom.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5349/6942042378_a09af027b4_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7233/7088115611_a4f3f0aa59_z_d.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5240/6942046462_f78eb7f8e2_z_d.jpgSides wired on, stretched with stringshttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5312/6942048346_f85d6d4df3_z_d.jpgStrings removed, temp wood cleatshttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7266/6942059920_6303e5fc95_z_d.jpge looks boxy, I will cut the freeboard down, but want to keep the reverse sheer

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7232/6942061680_8477bf3aa5_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7078/6942063196_1cb4c4448e_z_d.jpgspot tacked with 403

[BBSebens]

spot tacked with 403



Huh.. Thats an interesting way to look at it.


You don't waste any time do you?

[wizbang 13]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5112/7089109891_eec104d61a_z_d.jpgspot tacked, don't wanna get dukee on the wires, makes em harder to remove.bilge stringer clamhttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5333/6943040894_824c4dcba8_z_d.jpgped with lead going to get dusty here soon

[Breakaway]

A PAIR of 9227C's. Got holsters for them weapins, pardner? ;)

Kevin

[wizbang 13]

heh heh , the black one is from china.
But I have 2 Japanese ones on the big boat.
...and a coupl o Milwaukee's around.=somewhere.

[johnno]

Looking great...looks like you have good weather for epoxying there right now. :)

[wizbang 13]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5034/6945608426_96b7c3b6ca_z_d.jpgBit of a bullnose on the stem. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5238/7091678687_0248300efc_z_d.jpgtransom knees startinghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5465/6945611248_e9e8836494_z_d.jpgPanther PTT bracket, this will have its' own wedge in addition.http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/7091681615_8262c26340_z_d.jpg

[Dan St Gean]

Looks good!

[potomac]

The things they won't make a sticky. Well the build probably won't last long enough anyway at the rate you're going. Is she completely your design, Wiz?

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7256/7094783433_9f3d443071_z_d.jpgseven lams, not done yethttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5469/7094782287_f3742e0f8a_z_d.jpgfancy deck camber moldhttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/6948713872_935c52bcf9_z_d.jpg50% more freeboard, due to the reverse sheer and long shaft engine, she will not look much like Wizbanghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5338/7094785345_808724811a_z_d.jpg"the saloon"

[MiddleAgesMan]

Incredible. You make a certain gentleman from North Carolina look like a slow poke. ;)

[Breakaway]

keep it coming. Enjoying this.

Kevin

[wizbang 13]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5112/7099618031_0baa855f91_z_d.jpgfancy deck clamping. no wood clamp or sheer.just a filet later, after she is downside up.http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5276/7099619381_de16521719_z_d.jpg11 lamshttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7039/7099622851_fd863968f7_z_d.jpgI had to swap the tiller handle from the long shaft to remote control from the shorty. No too dificult. I am not much of a wrencher.My vicegrip collection is awesome.http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/7099621017_3a3dd35086_z_d.jpglooks about right. this stock alloy wheel will not do

[johnw]

How do you figure out what prop to use?

[wizbang 13]

The usual way, well, my usual way is to throw money at them until I am happy.
I spent several grand on wheels for my Aristo Craft, including eight hundred bux on a custom cleaver.
The stock wheel on the "Classic 25" is 13 inches, pitch of course. That is fine for a 13'whaler to go 30 mph, but it will be" stuck in 2nd gear" for this boat.
Wizbang has, on the other motor, a 15" SS wheel with a sexy name , I will start with that.
There is more to it than just reading the tach, there is also load, trim and jack(height) to be fine tuned. Oh, and moving the engine fore n aft a few inches,(with wedges and paint stir sticks).
The cleaver props, (surface piercing) are fast but dangerous, VERY slow to get out of the hole, making the small boat dangerous in the vicinity of waves or wakes.
The power trim bracket MAKES the boat.She is not very safe without it. When it occasionally fails, I turn and limp straight home.
But no kidding, the last 3mph are the most "spensive!!!

[stephenlneal]

Cudos to the rock clamps...and the visegrips.

[skaraborgcraft]

She lookin fast just sat on the trailer! Shouldnt that trim plate be just under the waterline when your underway? Looks a little high,or is that part experimental for speed too? Keep at it!

[johnw]

The usual way, well, my usual way is to throw money at them until I am happy.
I spent several grand on wheels for my Aristo Craft, including eight hundred bux on a custom cleaver.
The stock wheel on the "Classic 25" is 13 inches, pitch of course. That is fine for a 13'whaler to go 30 mph, but it will be" stuck in 2nd gear" for this boat.
Wizbang has, on the other motor, a 15" SS wheel with a sexy name , I will start with that.
There is more to it than just reading the tach, there is also load, trim and jack(height) to be fine tuned. Oh, and moving the engine fore n aft a few inches,(with wedges and paint stir sticks).
The cleaver props, (surface piercing) are fast but dangerous, VERY slow to get out of the hole, making the small boat dangerous in the vicinity of waves or wakes.
The power trim bracket MAKES the boat.She is not very safe without it. When it occasionally fails, I turn and limp straight home.
But no kidding, the last 3mph are the most "spensive!!!

So scientific! I guess that is the usual way.

[wizbang 13]

She lookin fast just sat on the trailer! Shouldnt that trim plate be just under the waterline when your underway? Looks a little high,or is that part experimental for speed too? Keep at it!
Yes, Underwater slightly for a REGULAR boat!

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/6957970360_88d9fd36fc_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6957974370_edf5e54212_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7084/7104045753_339fec5867_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/7104041119_3ee9821a4b_z_d.jpgI'll lam some kind of wee deck beam or ring frame later to hold the helm, and I will scarph the 3/16th deck to carry back , but no sheer clamp or rub rail.

[Jefe]

Great thread...Thanks!

[skaraborgcraft]

Yes, Underwater slightly for a REGULAR boat!

Dang,your a speed freak! Dont you lose a little steering control with the prop so close to the surface,or is max straightline speed your only objective here......somehow i already feel i know the answer. Keep at it,looking peachy! Cheers

[RFNK]

What's this boat for Wiz? Just for whizzing around in or racing?

Rick

[wizbang 13]

What's this boat for Wiz? Just for whizzing around in or racing?

Rick
This boat is for getting far away for a short piece of time in a short piece of time.
It is a thrill for me when the boat "breaks out" No passenger can experience it. It is beyond planing.
Most boats begin to porpoise up and down a bit at high speed, and most will trim down, with the engine tilt or with ballast(fuel and batteries), but I seek to
keep the boat on the up side of porpoising. Performance guys know all this. Most boats that break out are obviously bigger boats with MUCH bigger
engines.

The South Puget Sound is where I "go".
Self employed, I can pop her in the water in 20 minutes, any nice day. Calm, sunny days happen here, even in the Winter.
Of course I keep a few sailboats.
No racing, I did race around Vashon Island at dawn on the 4th of July a few times , (with my Aristo Craft),but that is not an official anything.
Others launch kayaks on these nice days while I am launching my" sportabout". I launch faster and do not have to wear a rubber suit. They go for a paddle around the harbor, I go for a 60 mile spin around the south sound.
The boat pulls to one side at halfish throttle, but at WOT , I can let go of the wheel(even lean out and take photos!!), she balances with no pull on the steering wheel. I even remove the zinc trim tab from the motor.
And, building is fun.

[Yeadon]

aka, the Tao of Wizbang.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8143/7106749259_d7884d1056_z_d.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8018/6960687058_50ed2afae9_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7052/7106752931_6abe92e46a_z_d.jpgblack epoxy surplus coating,

[Mad Scientist]

...at WOT , I can let go of the wheel(even lean out and take photos!!), she balances with no pull on the steering wheel...

Be careful with that - remember what happened to the first Wizbang!

Tom

[skaraborgcraft]

I even remove the zinc trim tab from the motor........

you got it bad bro......

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/7107643613_7859266ac0_z_d.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8163/6961577178_3989e65bd3_z_d.jpg

[chas]

Hey Bruce /

Coming right along. I see you are fairing already, no skin of lightweight glass on the bottom for a little ding resistance? I remember fighting for those last few ounces when I was building my slalom sailboards, so I imagine the same for this speedster.

On the speed boards I found that a sharp chine along the rails under my back foot would cause me to 'trip' immediately if I got even a touch sideways to the direction of travel. Instant smackdown! The smallest wavelet could make a big mess of a promising speed run. I took to adding a 1/4" radius to that edge and found it reduced (not eliminated) the crashing problem at speed. Not sure if it affected the MPH but it might have allowed me to hang on a little longer. Have you noticed any similiar issues being motor driven? / Jim

[wizbang 13]

Chas, I think I may just try putting a small radius on the aft side chine, Thanks.
The transom chine, I have found, wants to be sharp.

[Breakaway]

The transom chine, I have found, wants to be sharp.

Yup. Look at a go fast owned by a real enthusiast or someone who races. The chines and strakes are blocked/ground/sanded sharp, sharp sharp. Water breaks cleaner off a sharp edge.

Luking good.

Kevin

[wizbang 13]

Whad'ya think about rounding the aft side chine a bit Kevin?

[Bill Huson]

Yep, sharp edges. And don't forget "stink stone" - black blown glass insulation blocks available from plumbing and heating suppliers. Called stink stone because it is blown with hydrogen sulfide so while stink stoneing the bottom true flat it stinks. Racing runabout tuners will lay on epoxy extra thick on the last couple feet of the afterplane and then stink stone it - again - and maybe again. Goal, dead flat surface there. A race runabout pushes 60 with a 15 cu in outboard.

[wizbang 13]

Thanks Bill, I know you know which end is up here.
I have flattened/ faired the aft 3 feet of my Aristo craft and Wizbang with 407 and 410 (to where I cannot get a sheet of paper under an aluminum straightedge) and it is the ONLY time you will see me using a "torture board".

So, no on softening the aft side chines?

[Breakaway]

I'd think a radius on those side chines would be ok. They are out of the water when your humming, so the extra drag created is negligible( for these purposes, and we are talking in degrees of refinement here) and should they enter during a turn, or some chine walk, the radius SHOULD make them more forgiving.

K

[chas]

"The transom chine, I have found, wants to be sharp." ... Agreed. Kevin, I don't think giving the chine a little roundover would make her any faster either. If, and only if, she feels a little squirrely at speed then this might help with that, which might enable you to keep your foot on it a little longer.

Wiz, because the boards were glass over foam I wanted the wrap at that point of the rails for stiffness and ding resistance. I would shape the foam to whatever I considered to be the max roundover, glass them, and then build that edge out with 407 to give me some body to shape with. If I did get a ding in this area it took the form of a chip, which was easy to repair and usually didn't compromise the integrity of the skin underneath.

I'm too worn out for that kind of stuff anymore. / Jim

[wizbang 13]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8142/6962224940_7d3d8dcff5_z_d.jpg21 inches of freeboard in the cockpit puts you way down in there. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7098/7108298295_1815869454_z_d.jpg

[Figment]

I love this quick-and-awesome build.

Something is making me crazy, though. It's reminding me of another boat; maybe 16'LOA, open outboard skiff, hatchet bow and the same sort of easily-driven "get up and plane on just the middle bit of the flat bottom" hull. Something I've seen in the last year or two, I just KNOW it, but I can't put my finger on it.

Does anyone know the boat I'm talking about, or have I already been made crazy?

[skaraborgcraft]

Sweet rear end. Keep at it. Cheers

[wizbang 13]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/6965340758_0ebab1a68a_z_d.jpgOh heck , I forgot to fasten the stringers!http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7053/7111417699_93abc84264_z_d.jpg

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/6968152942_8bcdb3d557_z_d.jpg"dashboard", holes for steering cable, harness, and bilge pump hose.Weather has gone a bit cold, slowing me down.

[chas]

"Weather has gone a bit cold, slowing me down." .... That's probably a good thing, as you were getting ahead of yourself anyways, LOL.


What part of the sound are you at? / Jim

[John B]

Still loving this thread.

Is the black finish paint or graphite in epoxy?

[wizbang 13]

The black is an epoxy 2 part" tank coating" I got at a surplus store, (Chimicum, near Port Townsend) 5 gallons for $120. Worth a try. It is like jelly in the can. I did the graphite powder thing with the wee catboat last year, freaking messy to sand. This will no doubt make black dust too. I do not need to save every dime like when I was younger, but for$25 bux a gallon, it is sport. Wish it was white.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7041/6973644562_5043f0efc7_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7184/7119728881_6e2311636c_z_d.jpgloves me some sanding

[wizbang 13]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7122480269_a06f11af4e_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7218/6976398062_8dca7aff7f_z_d.jpgone coat of west , 105 and 207, 180 with the rumdum orbiter, and 1 coat of cheap one part poly. I'll put a few more poly coats on, cpes the inside, bam. The bottom is fairing out. If the sun comes out next weekend I may need to buy some GAS!!!

[potomac]

You are a machine, Bruce.

[Sailor]

It must be a blur watching him work.

[skaraborgcraft]

Are you keeping a log on hours Bruce? Im 80 hours into a Michalak family skiff, and not being much of an epoxy lover,im still filleting and taping the interior seams.....i think i would be quicker fitting 4 wood stringers.....the epoxy drying is holding me up......and im not looking forward to sanding that crap down.Gotta get back to it....

[wizbang 13]

Not keeping track of hours. I am going slower than wizbang, which was a quickie prontotype from the git go.
You know I do not use tape on the filets, right?
And my sanding techniques are refined for speed. Fer instance, for sanding filets, I glue a slightly oversized disc (hand cut from a sheet of sandpaper) onto a cut down , old thick softpad.( ex. ,6" disc on a 5" pad. ) THIS is a much faster than hand sanding with a cut down broomstick or whatnot.Being a very light boat, it lacks much structure, chine logs, sheer log, stem, and those pesky fastenings. I am careful in my application of epoxy, not messy, and I always use at least 3 knives with a hawk. I hardly ever use gloves, I think they make the job messier. If I get a drip on me, I stop and wash , with "human" solvent, water. You see my shop is open, blowing it out saves hours of cleaning .

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/6978611594_405f147498_z_d.jpgBingos' transom actually leans IN a bit, so I am doubling up on the wedges.

[wizbang 13]

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[chas]

She's gonna be hard to see on some dark night if you somehow, God forbid....

...get UPSIDE DOWN!! LOL. / Jim

[sailboy3]

Better yet, paint her all black to avoid detection by your local water nazis after dark. Gig Harbor must have a few.

[wizbang 13]

oh yea. bingo" may " just have the same hin and bow numbers as wizbang. whaddya know?

[John B]

Its amazing how well the restoration is going.

[Mad Scientist]

oh yea. bingo" may " just have the same hin and bow numbers as wizbang. whaddya know?


Its amazing how well the restoration is going.

Continuing the old USN tradition of 'rebuilding' old ships when Congress wouldn't authorize new construction, back in the 19th Century...and also along the lines of the recent 'restoration' of Bluenose II, in which the only significant parts reused were a few spars.

Tom

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6990785048_a739281c4c_z_d.jpg

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7136878679_9cb83d5e74_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7210/6990791394_d28ff658e3_z_d.jpgengine is running, linkage is smoothed out, having swapped this motor out from tiller handle model.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/7136874445_7f3c5ff59e_z_d.jpgThe "boxes" have white foam in them.Bilge pump is resurrected from the other boat, it was busted up

[sleek]

How do you obtain such a beautiful fillet seal of epoxy? Do you tape it off first? What exactly is your method of making it fair and smooth?

[skaraborgcraft]

Yeah, i know you dont use tape....after spot filleting between stitches,i found the hull strong enough to hold together and cut them all out before doing all the interior filleting and taping.....i have come to the conclusion that the 2 layers of tape are probably well over the top in regards to keeping the boat together,but its all good practice before for the next project. I confess to being amazed at how a blob of epoxy can have such a hold between 2 edges of 1/4 in ply. An open workshop like that certainly ,makes for easy sweeping up! Looking forward to the launch pics. Cheers

[wizbang 13]

"beautiful fillet seal of epoxy" , why thanks sleek,first time anyone called my epoxy work beautiful.
tricks/techniques ; I am neat with epoxy. I always mix on a hawk, not a yogurt cup and I use 3, sometimes 4 knives, and I sand them clean every use. no gloves. gloves make the job messier. and I am not convinced that having ones hands sweating inside a gluey glove is safe. Like fat people always drinking diet coke. I sand them with a cut down softpad that has oversized paper, so that the edge of the disc does the cutting. It's a very effective technique. http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/4943414448_30096e97c1_z_d.jpgLike the small pad on the right, you can see the paper folded over the edge.

[sleek]

Ahhhh, I can see how that can be effective.... Thank you very much.

[chuckt]

I was just fixin to ask for a better explanation of your fillet sanding apparatus. Thanks. I'm enjoying your build.

[skaraborgcraft]

I have a variable speed drill i have been using to knock flat some glass sheathing i have done on the foils.....i will look out another pad and some oversize discs, certainly looks the way to go. Cheers

[wizbang 13]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7140670983_70d22eb10c_z_d.jpgall the way down, might need s'more wedgehttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/6994583834_9e0a3d689f_z_d.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/7140673465_042d49b0fb_z_d.jpg

[Lew Barrett]

Impressive pace.

[chuckt]

This boat says it needs some hot-rod type graphics on it. Something very garish. I picture flames or a naked lady.

[potomac]

Following your threads, Bruce, one can make the mistake of believing that he can do that too. "Look how fast he did that. Surely I can do that in twice the time with half the efficacy." You can't, and don't call me Shirley. Alright, maybe some of you guys can, but I sure can't. I for one vote for finished bright so she looks like a Hell-bound splinter leaving fish and conoeists in her wake. It looks like you'll be getting her wet this weekend if weekends mean much to you. Best wishes.

No looking behind while snapping photos. :d

[ben2go]

That looks scary and fast.When do I get my turn at the helm?

[johnw]

This boat says it needs some hot-rod type graphics on it. Something very garish. I picture flames or a naked lady.

I'd go for some Von Dutch style pin striping.

[Hwyl]

This boat says it needs some flames or a naked lady.

Edited

[ben2go]

This boat says it needs some flames or a naked lady.

I agree kind sir.

[BBSebens]

I vote flames!

[sleek]

A Naked lady with flames!

[ben2go]

A Naked lady with flames!

Close as I could get without breaking forum rules.

http://www.stagpromotions.ca/special/humanelements/FireFingers2.jpg

[sleek]

Maybe with the flames covering up the good parts........

[Garret]

A Naked lady with flames!

Only if it's a tasteful naked lady with flames.......

[potomac]

24 hours without an update? I wonder if Bingo is in her element.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7145176267_9a7b4772c0_z_d.jpgshe is ready, too cold n windy yesterday

[five guys named moe]

24 hours without an update? I wonder if Bingo is in her element.

24 hours without an update means he was too busy FINISHING the boat! Wow, that was quick! Pretty impressive.

[skaraborgcraft]

Excellent! Look forward to performance results.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6999941162_73d00c5819_z_d.jpgfancy graphics

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7082/7000027030_3e1e50b188_z_d.jpgLaunch.Cinco de Mayo, Tecate Cervesa.

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7233/7146116297_aef91c34ed_z_d.jpgThathttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7146118659_c6e0778903_z_d.jpg is some goofy lookin boat

[wizbang 13]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/7146120043_2e60fa8966_z_d.jpg

[wizbang 13]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizbang_13/7146108091/
quick vid, getting on her tail

[Garret]

Congratulations!

[wizbang 13]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizbang_13/7000106596/
my ears got cold and I came back in

[Breakaway]

Cool Man. How dose chines workin? Good?

Kevin

[Hwyl]

This was three weeks ago


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/6928874116_efb34dd93c_z_d.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5321/6928875622_ea879d2553_z_d.jpgDeja Voodoo. When this bit of west and 403 kick off, I will draw up the rocker and bow. The transom is 10 inches wider in addition to 6" taller. I built a flatbed of two by fours on the trailer. Make life a lil easier. The first boat was built in 60 hours time, but I may just mosey along a bit slower with this one, which I may call BINGO!

[timo4352]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizbang_13/7146108091/
quick vid, getting on her tail

LOL!!! :eek:
That is insane! Awesome! Y> How much boat is actually in the water? Less than a foot? We've gotta see more video of that, you know...
Be safe. Have fun.

[johnno]

Gone into the setting sun! Love it Wiz, well done!

[chuckt]

Looks like a whole lot of fun!

[potomac]

I suspect not the entire can made it onto the boat. If I could make a decision as fast as Bruce makes a boat, I'd really be somewhere. Congratulations. Well done.

[Yeadon]

Wow. That's insane. Nice work, Bruce.

[Durnik]

fancy graphics

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7082/7000027030_3e1e50b188_z_d.jpg
Launch.Cinco de Mayo, Tecate Cervesa.

Bruce, I like your style.

The boat - maybe not so much..

Now your ketch.. ;-)

Ok, let me see if I have this straight.. This would be the OB/μv Bingo? That's the Out Board / micro vessel Bingo.. ;-)

enjoy
bobby

[wizbang 13]

This was three weeks ago
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/6931701360_96cd372af8_z_d.jpg
This was 4 weeks ago.
Today, It was cold with no windsheild, and steering is tight and the ignition switch is fried from being underwater, so no tach or gps, and it was too rough out to really get her wound up. So I cannot speak to the chines or performance yet, but she did jump outta the hole like a horny rabbit and broke out like a convict in an earthquake!

[ben2go]

Where do I send the check for completed hull #2? :d

Looks like more fun than a bottle of rum and wild wimmins. :arg

[johnw]

Wow. Just wow.

[gilberj]

Damn Bruce .....................with message 131 you are just showing off..... Congratulations.................. just too much fun......you should be ashamed of yourself....and posting pictures as well.......

[skaraborgcraft]

Hard to see from the vid,but i expect you had a grin like a Cheshire cat! Think you will have a lot of laughs and a lot of smiles this summer. Well done,freaky maybe but a certain style. Now, i have an old 40hp Johnson laying around....

[Jefe]

Really enjoyed this.
Awesome thread Bruce - great job!

[Tall Boy]

Goofy looking? who cares, that thig is way beyond cool, closer to Vegas baby. Good job, Can I hang around in your world for awhile.

[Lewisboater]

For the amount of boat that is actually in the water... you could strap that motor to your butt and get a good spanking while you were at it... :D :D

[wizbang 13]

spanky, just what i need.
I ran her about 75 miles today.I got spanked

[Yeadon]

Did you take Bingo all the way around Vashon today?

[gilberj]

To-Fun thread.....brings out the bad-assss in us all.....thanx

[Gerarddm]

Boggled by that video. Migod. Hat is off to you, brother. Holy moly. I am still laughing. That was just great!

[wizbang 13]

olympia and back ,around anderson island, popped in felucy bay

[Gerarddm]

You need Mike Lavallee up at Killer Paint in Snohomish to do one of his TrueFire flame jobs on Bingo, LOL.

[skaraborgcraft]

75 mile run and you didnt tell us how fast she went? WTF! C,mon dont keep us in suspense....how did she handle,and is Bingo an improvement on the MK1? Cheers

[wizbang 13]

hitting 34.7 knots on the gps, a steady 33.5. I gotta dig out the garmin book and figure how to switch it over to mph again. no tach yet,ignition switch shot, so hard to fine tune, but I can feel an inch or two of more pitch is in order.
she definatly gets up on her tail faster than wizbang, which was built with all meranti and kahya.
I am not letting go of the wheel for pics, def a lil gun shy too.
she is in the shop for a few days getting varnished up for the Olympia boat fair.
I have always felt graphics are for ugly boats. I don't even put boot tops on my boats.

[skaraborgcraft]

Sounds like you reckon theres some room for improvement there....great job anyway,look forward to the fresh from varnish pics. Cheers

[Soundman67]

http://www.militaryfactory.com/conversioncalculators/speed_knots_to_miles_per_hour.asp

looks like you were doing about 40mph thats pretty f'n awesome. just the right thing to scare the salt out of a jetskier

[johnno]

I have always felt graphics are for ugly boats. I don't even put boot tops on my boats.
hear hear :)

[wizbang 13]

https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=e6dc31c077&view=att&th=137fb9ba5e764791&attid=0.2&disp=inline&realattid=f_h3kf1rv71&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P88eqTfWgm8u5a8efaHNi_B&sadet=1339957744585&sads=kzm_S9A8CnuC9faF6rCmIhXazzo

[wizbang 13]

https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=e6dc31c077&view=att&th=137fb9ba5e764791&attid=0.5&disp=inline&realattid=f_h3kf794c4&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P88eqTfWgm8u5a8efaHNi_B&sadet=1339957837664&sads=Hemfy20UfuD61a4v4Pg2e776108Yesterday, 16 june 12, she has a thousand miles on her now.

[skaraborgcraft]

Er..... i can see a white box with a red cross in it.....is that ya first aid kit?