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Paul Pless
04-12-2012, 09:31 PM
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2012-Ducati-1199-Panigale-20.jpg

Phillip Allen
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
I thought it was gonna be a boat... not ... uh... what it is

Paul Pless
04-12-2012, 09:34 PM
22 pounds less than the previous model with 25 more horsepower.

http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_lrg/panigale-1199-ducati-naked-pictures-0.jpg

Canoez
04-12-2012, 09:41 PM
One of our engineers bought one of these last week:

http://ducati.com/cms-web/upl/MediaGalleries/135/MediaGallery_135909/Diavel_2011_B_%5B1067x600%5D.jpg

It's an evil-looking machine - black like the one above. I think it went for somewhere around $18K. About 400 pounds and something like 175 HP with the approved after-market mods.

We're debating taking out a life-insurance policy on the guy that bought it.

:arg

Paul Pless
04-12-2012, 09:43 PM
The Paningale is 361 pounds and 200 HP.

Canoez
04-12-2012, 09:46 PM
Well, let's put it this way. This guy was pointing out that the HP output is user-selectable. He's been limiting himself to a mode during the break-in period that's only 100 HP and trying to stay below 6000 RPM. If he was driving the Paningale, we'd be too late to take out the life insurance policy.

Then again, as we say at work, "There's no kill like over-kill."

The Bigfella
04-12-2012, 09:48 PM
The Paningale is a rather interesting engine. I like the vacuum pump idea for the crankcase.

ron ll
04-12-2012, 09:51 PM
Yeah but then you have to spend another 20g for accessories like a heated airfoil chest protector so you don't freeze
your titties off at 200mph.

Paul Pless
04-12-2012, 09:52 PM
The Paningale is a rather interesting engine. I like the vacuum pump idea for the crankcase.It really is something. But the real magic is that monocoque frame. Not only is the engine a stressed member so is the air box as well as the mufflers. And for twenty grand, its cheaper than most of the run of the mill Harleys, Victory's, and BMW's that I see daily here in Hell.

Phillip Allen
04-12-2012, 09:54 PM
magic? (now I understand)

Hwyl
04-12-2012, 09:58 PM
The Paningale is 361 pounds and 200 HP.So rider weight would significantly effect the P/W ratio, for instance I'd bring the total weight up to 510 lb

Paul Pless
04-12-2012, 10:02 PM
So rider weight would significantly effect the P/W ratio, for instance I'd bring the total weight up to 510 lbSo you weigh more than Valentino Rossi does! And he's 6'1". . .

:D

The Bigfella
04-12-2012, 10:49 PM
Since when did 178cm translate to 6' 1"?

Rossi has admitted he can't ride Ducatis btw.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/09042012/66/rossi-ride-ducati.html

Paul Pless
04-12-2012, 10:54 PM
Since when did 178cm translate to 6' 1"?So he's 5'11"?

The Yamaha Team page I was looking at had him at 149 pounds and 6'1". . .

Paul Pless
04-12-2012, 10:57 PM
Rossi has admitted he can't ride Ducatis btw.At a $30 million a year contract this must come as quite a blow to Ducati.

The Bigfella
04-12-2012, 11:04 PM
Not only Ducati... Jeremy Burgess must be spitting chips. Jeremy has 15 titles under his belt now IIRC and Rossi has been a major beneficiary of his skills... this from wiki

Winning machines prepared by Burgess range from the Suzukis of Randy Mamola to the Hondas of Ron Haslam, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Mick Doohan and Valentino Rossi to the Yamaha of Valentino Rossi. Since July 1980, these riders have won 157 GP/MotoGP races (as at 2 November 2009) and a total of fourteen World Championships on motorcycles that "JB" has either prepared himself or whose preparation he has overseen as crew chief. Burgess's machinery have achieved over 280 podium finishes.

Tall Boy
04-13-2012, 08:22 AM
Sorry, I just fail to appreciate these crotch rockets.... gimme a nice comfortable performance cruiser every time :)

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Custom%20Bikes/Ferrari%20Ducati%20996%20Custom%20Cruiser.jpgToo cruizy?

The Bigfella
04-13-2012, 08:25 AM
Sorry, I just fail to appreciate these crotch rockets.... gimme a nice comfortable performance cruiser every time :)

Here you go... a lack of performance cruiser.... sitting in the traffic, sucking smoke behind the trucks because it hasn't got the manouverability to get around them

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Last%20Java%20and%20Sumatra/043.jpg

Paul Pless
04-13-2012, 08:41 AM
Here you go... a lack of performance cruiser.... sitting in the traffic, sucking smoke behind the trucks because it hasn't got the manouverability to get around themIn a different setting they are pretty nice bikes. Electra Glides may be the most popular bike in Hell. I see hundreds of them every weekend. I like many different kinds of motorcycles, including these perfectly capable classic cruisers. I rode a friend of mines 2010 model last year and it wasn't bad. It was comfortable, no vibration, more than adequate power, lots of torque, sounded wonderful. It was perfect for a warm Sunday evening back country ride. He bought it to cruise on weekends with his wife down to the beach from his home in Alabama - about a two hour ride.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/Urrell_album/2010FLHTblack.jpg

Paul Pless
04-13-2012, 08:58 AM
Water-cooled V-4, 750cc, 85hp, and only 525 lbs. No, it won't do wheelies. Yes, it will blow away any Harley I've ever seen. Quiet, smooth, comfortable.

My reply regarding the ElectraGlide was to Ian. I would think that your average 100HP/525 pound stock Sportster would compare rather favorably to your Honda performance and value wise.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg88/scaled.php?server=88&filename=harleydavidsonxr1200005yx5.jpg&res=landing

Performance cruiser is such a broad market, there's a number of BMW's that fill it, a Ducati or two. Nice to see Triumph in the niche.

Paul Pless
04-13-2012, 09:30 AM
You gotta hand it to Honda for building great engines... quiet, exceptionally smooth, reliable.passionless, boring, lacking soul. . .

Chris Coose
04-13-2012, 09:37 AM
The passenger ejector seat sticks off like a sore thumb. Though guys who are attracted to this style do themselves well to find an well defined ass acccesory displaying a stuck out thong to compliment the look.

I like sitting in my bike rather than slunk down on top of it.

The Triumph rebuild is coming along very nicely this spring BTW, quite excited.

Edit: Hold on a minute! There is no holder for the usual rocket ass accessory. This looks like a solo ride.

Paul Pless
04-13-2012, 09:40 AM
How goes the triumph resto Chris?

Tall Boy
04-13-2012, 09:45 AM
You might be right; I never rode a Sportster. However, I don't think the long stroke air-cooled V-twin of the Sportster would be as nice as what's in the Magna. You gotta hand it to Honda for building great engines... quiet, exceptionally smooth, reliable.

Try a Vmax sometime...
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHpQuyYt-rEt_JDg9dUSA1uHNR2QbeTsfYIAZnqOHLMommP0Ol

Paul Pless
04-13-2012, 09:58 AM
Do y'all like the V-max's styling?

Chris Coose
04-13-2012, 10:01 AM
How goes the triumph resto Chris?

I'm doing this tear down with another Triumph enthusiast. Neither of us are drunk kids like we used to be when wrenching on British stuff. AND! the internet allows huge access to advice and facitlity to parts distributors like I've never known. The bike has been dormant in my basement for 14 years.

This weekend will be the end of taking it apart, I think. I'll be into the drive chains case and seeing if the primary chain and sprockets need replacement. The lower end remains in the bike frame and I won't be getting into that but all the rest is tore up. Brakes, clutch, drive chain and sprockets, top end is in the machine shop, lower end seals on the front forks, typical upgrading of some of the Lucas junk, exhaust, cables. No paint, as this well used bike shows it's 42 years nicely.

I'll probably be into it for $1,500.00 in parts.

In the old days it was common for a Brit bike owner to carry a decent supply of tools and a fire extinguisher for the electrical fires. After 12-15 of age it was necessary to own a pick up truck. I don't know if I am being too much a romantic thinking I shall have a fairly dependable machine once we are done.

Paul Pless
04-13-2012, 10:08 AM
I don't know if I am being too much a romantic thinking I shall have a fairly dependable machine once we are done.

We live in the age of the cell phone. That makes old British and Italian machinery so much more. . . . .pleasant.

Chris Coose
04-13-2012, 10:13 AM
Right Paul! Never thought of that. I went skiing again this winter after a long break and was stunned to see people making slope rendevous using cell phones, when, not long ago it was impossible to hook up. That, and 99% of people were skiing with helmets on.

Tall Boy
04-13-2012, 10:15 AM
Do y'all like the V-max's styling?

Kind of like commenting on a Viking's wardrobe while he's chopping you to bits isn't it? Actualy they're ugly but when your riding one, down is not the way you look.

Ted Hoppe
04-13-2012, 10:19 AM
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/Urrell_album/2010FLHTblack.jpg

that ride is perfect... Can carry lots of hand guns and Meth in the bags without being hassled by the man. Perfect for on the go middle age accountants and lawyers who secretly want to be bikers.

The bike above is north of 20k. obviously it was made for comfort for the old lady. I understand there is a optional flushing head with storage tanks in the pipes.

Chris Coose
04-13-2012, 10:21 AM
I always thought those hard case side bags were for ice and beer. Least, that'd have been my use for em.

Ted Hoppe
04-13-2012, 11:00 AM
Those middle age accountants better be in good shape, if they drop it... the damn thing weighs somewhere north of 800 lbs!

thats why they bring their wives, for the heavy lifting. A loss of a bike can easily become a line deduction business expense.

Nanoose
04-13-2012, 10:50 PM
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2012-Ducati-1199-Panigale-20.jpg

Ya but, for 20 grand I expect a heck of a lot more purdy than that!

jsjpd1
04-13-2012, 11:21 PM
I always thought those hard case side bags were for ice and beer. Least, that'd have been my use for em.

They do work exceptionally well for that. I've never really cared for the barka lounger on wheels look. I've ridden my dad's a few times, he's got a 2001 Screaming Eagle Road Glide. It'll scoot for a big bike and the stereo is kinda nice on long rides. He got it so my step-mom would be more comfortable but he's always talking about building another bike to ride solo. My current ride is an '03 Dyna which is quite a step up from the old Sportster. The dyna is bigger but still handles well and is a much smother ride.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/jsjpd1/sturgis%202010/P8081577.jpg

Canoez
04-17-2012, 02:22 PM
One of our engineers bought one of these last week:

http://ducati.com/cms-web/upl/MediaGalleries/135/MediaGallery_135909/Diavel_2011_B_%5B1067x600%5D.jpg

It's an evil-looking machine - black like the one above. I think it went for somewhere around $18K. About 400 pounds and something like 175 HP with the approved after-market mods.

We're debating taking out a life-insurance policy on the guy that bought it.

:arg

Ok. We're about a week beyond the purchase. First ticket for $100 - 60 MPH (+!) in a 40MPH zone... The tally has begun.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
04-17-2012, 03:55 PM
So rider weight would significantly effect the P/W ratio, for instance I'd bring the total weight up to 510 lb

Giving you a 6 pound advantage over me

Ted Hoppe
04-17-2012, 04:24 PM
If you are going to ride a designer bike... May i suggest a Ruby carbon fiber helmet that has a list price beginning at 900 dollars.

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ruby-helmets.jpghttp://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li3z5y8vBQ1qc09yvo1_500.jpg

The Bigfella
04-17-2012, 05:03 PM
I'd like a carbon fibre helmet.... but full-face please. My big "off" as a 17 year old saw me land face first at 90mph.... fortunately with a Shoei full-face helmet on. I've never felt comfortable riding with an open-faced helmet since, although that is what I used on my ride through Vietnam - simply because I had to carry the helmet in my pack for a couple of weeks before we got our bikes, and a full-faced helmet wouldn't fit in.

I was lucky enough to bump into Simon and Lisa Thomas about three weeks ago, at Lake Toba in Sumatra. 2ridetheworld.com - best to search for them on facestalk though, they update it more often. They are currently blasting through Indonesia so that they can meet a speaking deadline in Oz. Bit of a pity that, means too much hard riding and not enough smelling the roses for my liking.

Simon and Lisa have been on the road for 10 years. They are heavily sponsored - by the likes of Nikon and Touratech. Plenty of nice shiny gear and lots of it. Simon handed me his carbon fibre helmet.... supplied via a sponsorship deal, and WOW... so light. About ten times the cost of what I'm using too.... and it needs goggles on top of that.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Last%20Java%20and%20Sumatra/177-1.jpg

Ted Hoppe
04-17-2012, 05:45 PM
I'd like a carbon fibre helmet.... but full-face please. My big "off" as a 17 year old saw me land face first at 90mph.... fortunately with a Shoei full-face helmet on. I've never felt comfortable riding with an open-faced helmet since, although that is what I used on my ride through Vietnam - simply because I had to carry the helmet in my pack for a couple of weeks before we got our bikes, and a full-faced helmet wouldn't fit in.

I was lucky enough to bump into Simon and Lisa Thomas about three weeks ago, at Lake Toba in Sumatra. 2ridetheworld.com - best to search for them on facestalk though, they update it more often. They are currently blasting through Indonesia so that they can meet a speaking deadline in Oz. Bit of a pity that, means too much hard riding and not enough smelling the roses for my liking.

Simon and Lisa have been on the road for 10 years. They are heavily sponsored - by the likes of Nikon and Touratech. Plenty of nice shiny gear and lots of it. Simon handed me his carbon fibre helmet.... supplied via a sponsorship deal, and WOW... so light. About ten times the cost of what I'm using too.... and it needs goggles on top of that.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/Last%20Java%20and%20Sumatra/177-1.jpg

What was the lining like? I would think it would be equally extraordinary too. I am still a full face shield guy even in higher temputures - keeps the larger stinging bugs from slapping the face, dust out and developing raccoon bandit eyes.

Paul Pless
04-17-2012, 06:05 PM
simply because I had to carry the helmet in my pack for a couple of weeks before we got our bikes, and a full-faced helmet wouldn't fit in.

You might have worn it.:d

The Bigfella
04-17-2012, 06:07 PM
I didn't spend too much time with it Ted, just noted that it was about 1/3 the weight of my helmet. Yeah, I'm using a full face with shield... and peak. The bugs and rain being the main reasons.... although the one I've got now has a nasty habit of sucking spray up inside the shield.

The Bigfella
04-17-2012, 06:08 PM
You might have worn it.:d

While walking and boating? Yeah, sure Paul.

John B
04-17-2012, 07:53 PM
Can't figure out these ducati threads, I had photos in one somewhere.

This turned up yesterday

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/motorbikes/2012-04-17130602_1.jpg

apart from the engine noise, it was pretty obvious that a front loading washing machine on spin cycle with a bag full of washers and old coins in it had arrived. Thanks to the forum and Lew in particular, I know that's caused by the clutch and was able to point out the open cover.

The monster is the replacement for the 999 which he, Johnny G , has sold to other good sailing friends. They love it, but Johnny Gis sick of bending his neck .
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/motorbikes/IMG_1482_1.jpg

Coincidentally, yet another best sailing friend just so happens to be a chiro, so he's now going to pay John commission on all the future work to be had off the sport bikes.

The Bigfella
04-17-2012, 07:56 PM
I think we need to organise a pillion ride for John B.... through some nice fast sweepers

John B
04-17-2012, 07:58 PM
I think we need to organise a pillion ride for John B.... through some nice fast sweepers

I dunno, I made the mistake of trying to sit on the monster yesterday and now me hip is bug... er, needs a bit of a rest.

The Bigfella
04-18-2012, 10:50 PM
"German car maker branches out into two-wheelers, paying roughly $1 billion for iconic Italian brand.
Audi has confirmed it will buy Italian sports bike maker Ducati.
"The deal will be completed as soon as possible after it is cleared by the authorities," Audi says in a statement.
It did not give financial details but press reports put the price at about 860 million euros ($1.1 billion).
The deal will give Volkswagen, which owns Audi and a host of other upmarket car brands, an entry into the top-end motorcycle market, taking on its arch-rival, BMW.
Ducati, established in Bolgna, northern Italy in 1926, is famous for its high-speed road and racing bikes, of which it sold 42,000 last year, for a turnover of 480 million euros.
Investindustrial, an investment fund, has controlled the company since 2006 with a 70 per cent stake.
Aside from Audi, Volkswagen owns some of the world’s most sought-after automotive brands, including supercar makers Bugatti and Lamborghini."

So now you can put a VW badge on your Ducati