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Ted Hoppe
04-06-2012, 04:29 PM
Ferdinand Alexander Porsche, who designed and unveiled to the world the first Porsche 911, has died in Salzburg, Austria, a spokesman said. He was 76.
The death was announced Thursday by Matthias Muller, president of Porsche AG, who credited the late designer with establishing a "design that is a legacy."
Porsche gained worldwide recognition at the age of 27 when he unveiled the first Porsche 911 at the Frankfurt Motor Show in 1963.
Recalling the design process, Porsche said: "Right from the start the specification was that the car had to be instantly recognizable as a Porsche from its silhouette."

In 1962, he took over as the head of the Porsche design studio and one year later unveiled what became the Porsche 911.

IMHO - His design studio is credited with shaping modern technologies and innovation.

http://www.porsche-design.com/international/en/

Mrleft8
04-06-2012, 04:38 PM
He probably saw a picture of a Panamera and just gave up.....

Paul Pless
04-06-2012, 04:48 PM
He probably saw a picture of a Panamera and just gave up.....lmao

Andrew Craig-Bennett
04-06-2012, 04:50 PM
He probably saw a picture of a Panamera and just gave up.....

Ah, yes, the Porsche That Looks Like an Audi; their cunning response to the Audi TT , the Audi That Looks Like a Porsche.


And they all look like Volkswagens anyway.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
04-06-2012, 05:24 PM
.....

And they all look like Volkswagens anyway.

Hardly surprising - considering the designer.

God is exceedingly fond of beetles. (J B S Haldane)

moTthediesel
04-06-2012, 05:46 PM
The 911 is an iconic design -- one of the greatest, and most enduring, in the history of the automobile --

The 904 wasn't bad either.

Godspeed, Butzi....

The Bigfella
04-06-2012, 10:30 PM
Fair winds Ferdi

Reynard38
04-07-2012, 06:24 AM
A lot to be said for a design that continues to excel for almost 50 years. Gotta admit I'm a little biased.... :)

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w16/Reynard38/fbf08dc5.jpg

Phillip Allen
04-07-2012, 06:34 AM
they never appealed to me... they looked impractical and a bit ugly though I have never ridden in one

Paul Pless
04-07-2012, 06:38 AM
they never appealed to me... they looked impractical and a bit ugly though I have never ridden in one

whats not to like?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/08/porsche-911-turbo-pickup.jpg

Reynard38
04-07-2012, 06:47 AM
they never appealed to me... they looked impractical and a bit ugly though I have never ridden in one
You build wooden boats and are concerned with practicality?
Wood boat are to plastic boats as a 911 is to a Camry...

Ted Hoppe
04-07-2012, 08:35 AM
For 50 years the 911 remains on icon of sport and status. It is hard to think of another model car that has remained such. Most other sports cars of the era long gone and the few name plates that remain don't inspire historical greatness or deliver in quality. Year after year, the car delivered luxury and speed. You can knitpick many things on a 911 but compared to the numerous sport car abominations of ford, Chevy, triumph, MG, jaguar, fiat, Alfa and others... It was a great run with a quality product under this guy..

The father of the 911 was the inspiration for the design of your iPhone, the slickness in many a mans watch and the ergonomics of form factor. he was the son of the Bauhaus which we now take for granted.

Paul Pless
04-07-2012, 08:42 AM
Abominations?

http://cdn3.automobilesreview.com/corvette-racing-2010-le-mans-50th-anniversary/corvette-racing-2010-le-mans-50th-anniversary-02.jpg

http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/1968-le-mans-corvette1.jpg

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Chevrolet-Corvette-C6R-Le-Mans-3-1600x1200.jpg

Ted Hoppe
04-07-2012, 09:12 AM
.http://www.allfordmustangs.com/articlemanager/uploads/1/1974-mustang-ii_blue.jpg http://mustangattitude.com/mustang/1974/1974_00031_01.jpg


http://rencher.com/images/20100218a.jpg

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss242/acerimmerv/Import Relics/1980 TR7/gallery3.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/alfa-romeo-arna/AlfaRomeoArna_01.jpg


http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r6/duffjoshua/Cars/1980ChevroletCorvetteStingray.jpg

The Bigfella
04-07-2012, 09:27 AM
You're on a hiding to nothing Pless....

Ted Hoppe
04-07-2012, 09:28 AM
Abominations?

http://cdn3.automobilesreview.com/corvette-racing-2010-le-mans-50th-anniversary/corvette-racing-2010-le-mans-50th-anniversary-02.jpg



Just because you take a picture of fast cars on a beautiful, exciting track... Interesting enough the cars share the same nameplate but not heritage or design path.

The Bigfella
04-07-2012, 09:32 AM
and neither has real style

Paul Pless
04-07-2012, 09:33 AM
Interesting enough the cars share the same nameplate but not heritage or design path.

Eh?

May we begin the discussion with the venerable small block Chevy???

Paul Pless
04-07-2012, 09:33 AM
You're on a hiding to nothing Pless....That you Phillip? not quite sure what you mean???

The Bigfella
04-07-2012, 09:38 AM
That you Phillip? not quite sure what you mean???

I mean that you haven't got a hope in hell of winning this one by throwing up photos of the plastic fantastics on a Porsche thread. Take a look at the "design" details in that yellow monster. Rectangles, ovoids, extensions, cutouts... hmm... tasteful? No.... just mildly interesting, not beautiful. Yeah, I'd still tap its throttle, but you wouldn't take it home to meet your mother now, would you?

Paul Pless
04-07-2012, 09:42 AM
Take a look at the "design" details in that yellow monster. Rectangles, ovoids, extensions, cutouts... hmm... tasteful? Interesting that Porsche didn't even field a competitor against that yellow monster in the years that it was winning Lemans and Daytona. Yellow Monster indeed. . .

The Bigfella
04-07-2012, 09:47 AM
I was talking aesthetics. Porsche seem capable of winning what they decide to compete for btw. One of these days we'll get back to the sort of racing I grew up with.... take a car off the showroom floor, put a roll cage in it.... different brake pads and tyres... and race it. The stuff we get these days is rubbish.... apart from F1.

Joe (SoCal)
04-07-2012, 09:59 AM
Sorry Pless but Vetts are ugly.

http://famoushottens.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/porsche-carrera-gt.jpg

Oooofa even in green, I even actually kinda like it in green

Paul Pless
04-07-2012, 10:03 AM
You realize that's not a 911???

Joe (SoCal)
04-07-2012, 10:15 AM
I know but it's my favorite porshe :)
And the same "design" heritage that Ian posted holds true in the Porsche Carrera Gt*

Oh yea and the OOOOFA factor ;)

Paul Pless
04-07-2012, 10:20 AM
Just for the record, I like Porsches (older air cooled ones especially) and I appreciate their design and their competitive record. Its the disparagement of other marques that i have trouble with.

The Bigfella
04-07-2012, 10:26 AM
Just for the record, I like Porsches (older air cooled ones especially) and I appreciate their design and their competitive record. Its the disparagement of other marques that i have trouble with.

I don't think anyone set out to disparage other marques... but "someone" did drag a wannabe brand into a Porsche requiem

Ted Hoppe
04-07-2012, 10:35 AM
Past loves... It is really liking the prom queen but never taking her home.

http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/front_website/octane_interact/modelpicture.php?id=2727

http://static.blogo.it/deluxeblog/maserati-200-si/maserati_250si_00.JPG

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1967_Alfa_Romeo_Duetto_Boat_Tail_Spider_Front_1.jp g

Phillip Allen
04-07-2012, 01:47 PM
You build wooden boats and are concerned with practicality?
Wood boat are to plastic boats as a 911 is to a Camry...

a wooden boat is a place to be
a car is a means to get to a place to be

John Meachen
04-07-2012, 02:31 PM
Hardly surprising - considering the designer.

God is exceedingly fond of beetles. (J B S Haldane)

Well they borrowed a lot of design features from a Mercedes.
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss226/John_Meachen/Schlumpf%20museum/SAM_0759.jpgThe designer of the Mercedes was Ferry Porsche and one wonders whether he would have contemplated the automotive empire that resulted.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
04-07-2012, 02:51 PM
Good Lord!

Thank you, John - quite an eye opener.

Having just read the "properties" on your picture, am I safe in assuming that, to attract the attention of the brothers S, that particular Mercedes must be quite scarce?

John Meachen
04-07-2012, 03:07 PM
Not exactly a common car but there is another one here http://www.louwmanmuseum.nl/asp/appmain.asp?appactie=collectiedetail&taalcd=en&collsq=5280 .
http://www.louwmanmuseum.nl/img/auto_foto_groot/IMG_1633.jpg

Reynard38
04-07-2012, 09:31 PM
a wooden boat is a place to be
a car is a means to get to a place to be

Some folks will never understand.

purri
04-08-2012, 02:51 AM
Rich man's Volkswagen...

The Bigfella
04-08-2012, 05:55 AM
http://content.ll-0.com/theautogallery/porsche-rennsport.jpg

purri
04-08-2012, 06:09 AM
and now the domain of the nouveaux riches AKA Porschepines...

Paul Pless
04-08-2012, 06:22 AM
and now the domain of the nouveaux riches AKA Porschepines...

A segment on NPR here a while ago explained how directors used products for character development in movies. The number one most understood product placement was a Porsche. If you want your male middle aged actor to come across as a jerk, that's what he drives.

Mrleft8
04-08-2012, 08:57 AM
I have to say, that as much as I like the 911, I love the 356 more. When I grow up, and become rich and famous, I will own a 1964 356sc.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSqHHbvxgKi6wMWRh_N7Cvu3qIRuDJg uYOSN7EAtHbofS1wj34

The Bigfella
04-08-2012, 09:12 AM
First Porker I was ever in was a 356... I owned a '58 Beetle at the time. I noticed some common parts. I test drove a Carerra in the 90's but growing varmints dictated me buying the pair of Mercedes SEC's instead.

moTthediesel
04-08-2012, 09:42 AM
356? This is mine --

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qhP18rV90MI/TVXqa0OVngI/AAAAAAAAAGU/w7ALreH-rDo/s720/IMG_0592.JPG

I've owned it (or it's owned me) since March of 1975. I've taken it completely apart, (and put it back together) several times... and I can attest to how many of it's parts are stamped "VW" -- lots! We've both evolved over the years, and we're not the same constructions we once were, but on the whole the P car is better and stronger than it was when I bought it as a rusty mess for $600. I only wish I could say the same about my own aging physical plant.

I've driven many 911's, and I think they are great cars, but I'll not likely ever own one. As much as I respect them as a design, I just relate better to the working class roots of the 356, a simple, unpretentious, hot rod version of the ubiquitous Beetle.

Tom

Reynard38
04-08-2012, 05:11 PM
and now the domain of the nouveaux riches AKA Porschepines...

Actually the nouveaux rich are buying Lambos these days. I run a car show that gets @ 1200 cars each event (once a month).
The Porsche guys are pretty low key compared with the Lambo crowd. The Hotrod AMG guys are getting pretty rowdy as well. The was a 815 RWHP E63 AMG there the other day. Electric cutouts on the exhaust!
Compared to the Lambos, Ferraris and AMG's the Porsches are downright economical...

Reynard38
04-08-2012, 05:12 PM
356? This is mine --

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qhP18rV90MI/TVXqa0OVngI/AAAAAAAAAGU/w7ALreH-rDo/s720/IMG_0592.JPG

I've owned it (or it's owned me) since March of 1975. I've taken it completely apart, (and put it back together) several times... and I can attest to how many of it's parts are stamped "VW" -- lots! We've both evolved over the years, and we're not the same constructions we once were, but on the whole the P car is better and stronger than it was when I bought it as a rusty mess for $600. I only wish I could say the same about my own aging physical plant.

I've driven many 911's, and I think they are great cars, but I'll not likely ever own one. As much as I respect them as a design, I just relate better to the working class roots of the 356, a simple, unpretentious, hot rod version of the ubiquitous Beetle.

Tom

Outlaw 356, very cool.

Mrleft8
04-08-2012, 05:18 PM
I drove a 911 Targa once. It was impressive. I was used to VWs at the time and was completely shocked to see the speedometer pass the 120MPH mark when I shifted into 4th..... I thought I was at 60 or so.... I backed off then. This was back before I-95 between NYC and R.I. became a 4-6 lane parking lot.

brad9798
04-08-2012, 08:17 PM
Get to my parent's estate/place today at about 12:05 CDT ... and their neighbor's driveway lets out on the street very close to theirs ...

And what is in the driveway? New 911 Turbo ... black on black ... with a nice script 'Turbo' insignia until the tail-fin/LARGE spoiler ... nice little car.

Sorry, Doug, I did not take a pic ... :D

brad9798
04-08-2012, 08:18 PM
Get to my parent's estate/place today at about 12:05 CDT ... and their neighbor's driveway lets out on the street very close to theirs ...

And what is in the driveway? New 911 Turbo ... black on black ... with a nice script 'Turbo' insignia under the tail-fin/LARGE spoiler ... nice little car.

Sorry, Doug, I did not take a pic ... :D