maid of endor

[bikkel]

Frank, from the Netherlands.

I have seen the plan of this boat en thought:
that is the boat that i want to build.

Is there sombody who no,s or sche is build and who has build her.
Mabay there are some pictures of this boat.

Thank you verry mutch!!!!!!!!!!

[Mike Field]

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A beautiful boat Frank -- very similar to my Buchanan 3-Tonner, but without the raised topsides. Sorry I can't tell you more about her, but for others interested, there are lines drawings and some reviews here (http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/MaidOfEndor.html).

I don't have any lines drawings of Sanderling, but here's an early photo sans bowsprit and hence at this stage still sloop-rigged, showing a somewhat smaller cockpit but larger accommodation in essentially the same sized hull.

http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/public/sanderling-originally-s.jpg
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[Jeremy Burnett]

One of these (Maid of Endor) was built on the English east coast a few years back.On the cover of the Boatman magazine I think.ACB might know about it.

[bhoyer]

I've completed lofting Maid of Endor from WB plan #133 and have nearly completed building my station molds.

If you've got questions, I'd be happy to help however I can.

Bill

[imported_Steven Bauer]

The new Woodenboat has an artcle about making a half model of MOE. Worth reading.

Steven

[RodB]

What a great choice to build. The model of "Maid of Endor" in the latest WB magazine is a fantastic example of Atkin's talent. That is a beautiful hull. I sure would like to see pix of one of these built.

I think "Maid of Endor" is very similar to the boat Atkin designed just for himself, "Amos Brown" which is a hard chined version of "Maid of Endor".... more or less...at least the LWL and beam and sailplan are very similar... Atkin said he based "Amos Brown" on the schooner "Florence Oakland" but laid in a conventional stem and gaff/sloop rig. "Maid of Endor" and Amos Brown" are very similar even if either one was ever thought about while the other was designed.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid152/p8ea45c3e5f48e92367ba6dd357e7fb89/f5b5a4c5.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid152/pfbd0f89d5ced4b87eb0d8490f8d70217/f5b5a49c.jpg


Pretty little gaff/sloops....

RB

[ 12-30-2004, 10:13 PM: Message edited by: RodB ]

[Adam B.]

I'm planning on building this boat with my Dad next year, when I move back to So. California from Maine. I've fallen love with gaff-rigs, bowsprits, and deadeyes since moving up here.

Does anyone know of any photographs of a completed version, in a back-issue of WB maybe?All I can find are drawings.

[Mike Field]

Yes, much as I thought. Here are the 3-Tonner's rough lines -- quite similar. (This drawing shows a c/b, whereas Sanderling herself has bilge keels.)

http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/public/sanderling-rough-lines.jpg

Nice designs.
.

[JimD]

I don't really see the comparison to Amos Brown. Even Atkin acknowledges its not a very practical design for a pocket cruiser due to the pronounced sheer and low cabin profile so it requires a pop top cabin roof to provide minimal headroom. He has this to say about his own design:


I feel that the result is an attractive -- if not altogether practical -- tabloid cruising boat. Her freeboard amidships is low and the trunk cabin is relatively low. Together, these features destroyed any possibility of sitting headroom. To overcome this, I borrowed a page from an early Stone Horse auxiliary with a trunk cabin and have shown sprung battens covered by a removable canvas...

[StevenBauer]

Has anyone noticed that the WoodenBoat Store is selling the half model of Maid Of Endor that Eric Dow made for the WB article?

http://www.woodenboatstore.com/store/images/620061.jpg

Quite the beauty!

Steven

[RodB]

Jim,
Both designs are similar in parameters, such as LOA, Sailplan, Beam, etc. I did qualify my comments on such a rough comparison..

You sure can't make any general remarks without getting some flak from some know it all.

RB

[ 02-09-2005, 01:33 AM: Message edited by: RodB ]

[JimD]

Originally posted by RodB:
Jim,
Both designs are similar in parameters, such as LOA, Sailplan, Beam, etc. I did qualify my comments on such a rough comparison..

You sure can't make any general remarks without getting some flak from some know it all.

RBI guess one man's flak is another man's conversation, Rod. I agree they are quite similar in sail plan and to an extent in profile. I think one of the reasons I dwell on the differences is because I like Maid of Endor a lot and it would have been nice for me if Amos Brown was more closely a plywood version of the same boat so I could build it. But the less apparent differences are enough to make Amos Brown unsuitable for my needs.

[Adam B.]

I Saw the half-hull model for sale at the WoodenBoat store yesterday--while I was in there buying the plans! She's even prettier in person.

I also picked up the BDQ #6, because it had a bit more discussion about her than 'Forty Wooden Boats' has. Turns out there is a cold-molded version in The Boatman #10. Off to scour the libraries and eBay...

[RodB]

Hey Adam,

Let us know if you get anything else on Maid of Endor, especially the cold molded version. I think she is one of Atkin's best designs ever...

I may have to get that half hull model.

For general curiosity, is there a similar design that is a bit larger? ...say 30 feet or more.

Jim,
I realize all to well how suble features can rule out a specific design for a prospective builder.

I was reading Atkin's comments on Amos Brown and he did exactly what he wanted .... with no restrictions from a client. I would much prefer MOE because I just love the round bilge designs....

RB

[ 02-18-2005, 01:50 AM: Message edited by: RodB ]

[RodB]

bump

[dredbob]

FYI, there was an article on a Maid of Endor built in England in the March/April 2007 issue (#62) of the British magazine WaterCraft. There were some lovely pictures, and it is easily seen that MOE is a beautiful boat.

Bob

[rbgarr]

I like the curved mahogany piece Eric Dow used for the boot top on the Maid of Endor half model. I wonder if he used proportions similar to those described in a recent WB article for establishing those dimensions.

[stumpbumper]

http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Articles/Maid-2/index.html

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[Wiley Baggins]

I can't ever view this design without thinking there is less return on the investment than one would like from an accommodations standpoint - she has such a complex shape and epitomizes the term "proper little ship." Notwithstanding the return on investment comments, Maid of Endor is an all time favorite. The curves shown in her body plan are absolutely sensuous. The sheer is sweet and the transom is perfect. There is mention in "The Picture Perfect Pocket Cruiser" article that fiberglass hulls might be offered. It would take a cold, doctrinaire heart to sniff dourly, “she’s na’ wooden.”

[JimD]

Think anyone will ever build another?

[RodB]

What would be the closest design to a larger "Maid of Endor"...

RB

[slusher_ben]

Maybe Ben Bow (gaff cutter) or Fore An' Aft ?

[JimD]

What would be the closest design to a larger "Maid of Endor"...

RB

Closest as in the shippiest little ship that's too small to be a real ship but is just big enough to provide enough practical accomodation for voyaging, my vote would be for Little Dipper. 23' x 7' with standing headroom, at least for a shorter person under 5'9":


To fill the want of a very little ship for the biggest kind of voyage this able ship Little Dipper has been designed

http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/images/LittleDipper-1.gif

[slusher_ben]

I don't want to change the subject but since the Little Dipper was mentioned does anyone have a picture of one that has been built?

[JimD]

I don't want to change the subject but since the Little Dipper was mentioned does anyone have a picture of one that has been built?

Never heard of one... And I doubt if you have to worry too much about changing the subject. The post is over 2 years old and its originator has never been back :D

[Paul Pless]

LOL!!!

[RodB]

Little dipper sure lacks the impact of MOE... Maid of Endor is absolutely perfect.... if you look at the profile... if anything is changed it would be diminished. Such visual grace.... I bet she could be upsized and still maintain that balance and proportion...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/Misc%20boats%20etc/Maid-Endorcomp.jpg

Heres Benbow from my Motor Boating Series with the blue outlines...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/Misc%20boats%20etc/benbowbluelores.jpg

Maybe Benbow is close to her and larger... but the vertical stem to my mind is not as impactful as MOE. I think "Eric" may come close in beauty and grace...although a different design...
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/Misc%20boats%20etc/Eric-gaff-cutter.jpg


RB

[Paul Pless]

What would be the closest design to a larger "Maid of Endor"...

RB

How much larger?

[RodB]

under 30 feet

[Paul Pless]

What about the stretched (to 30 foot) version of Gillmer's Blue Moon Yawl? There was a nice newly built cutter rigged one at the 2007 WoodenBoat Show.

There's always the ubiquitous Vertues...

[RodB]

Any photos or lines of that stretched version?

I'll look at Blue Moon.

RB

[Paul Pless]

here it is, I was wrong it was stretched to 27' feet on deck

http://www.coveyisland.com/allegro.jpg

more here: http://www.coveyisland.com/

there are multiple articles in older woodenboat issues featuring both the original blue moon design and the stretched versions

here's the original

http://www.woodenboatstore.com/images/400059.JPG

[RodB]

Really sweet boat, thanks. I think MOE still has the edge...its truly amazing when a boat is designed to perfect proportions.

RB

[keyhavenpotterer]

I am sure that in Watercraft No 62, only one I haven't got - lost it somehow, there was a mention of building moulds for MOE and putting the boat into production. Anybody with No62 able to confirm? Brian

[Willem]

Owner Martin Doe and builder Euan Seel are considering offering her as a molded GRP hull.

[dredbob]

In regards to the stretched version of Blue Moon, there is also a Tom Gilmer design called Calypso that is essentially a 35' ketch rigged Blue Moon. It is shown in one of Roger Taylor's _Good Boat_ books. There was an original design that was older, and then a more recent update that made it look much better and more like Blue Moon (flush deck, etc.).

Bob

[JimD]

I like Great Bear:

http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/images/GreatBear-1.gif
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Photos/GreatBear/GreatBear-02.jpg

[RodB]

Blue Moon...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/blue-moon-3.jpg

[soba]

Maid of Endor has that pretty back curved bowsprit. I think that is the detail that really softens the design, as the straight sprits on the other designs subtly clash with the lines (on plans, anyway.)

Makes my little Seabird look a little ugly and work-boatish.

soba

[JohnPeer]

wow, this is an old thread...resurrected for 2008, lol.

But I thought I would post in case there is still some curiousity about whether anyone is actually building a "Maid of Endor".

I was surprised while searching the net that I could only find pics of one completed vessel, the one in the UK.

Well, there will be new one launched by my dad next spring here in Nova Scotia after 10 years in the making...the deck has just been glassed, and the cabin and rigging to be made this winter...
Here's a pic:

Cheers,
John

[JimD]

Sorry, tried resizeing the pic 4 times....just cannot get it small enough for this forum! 19 KB?!? What is it 1996 here at Woodenboat? lol
Anyway, see here at abacoforum.com, search for "Maid of Endor"

PSS , administrator: a jpeg is a jpg...and 19 KB? c'mon!

good grief
;-)

Don't attatch photos. Link them from another website. Basically, once they are uploaded to any other website, copy/paste them to here. Looking forward to seeing them.

[JohnPeer]

Let's try this then
:-0

http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/?action=view&current=006.jpghttp://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/006.jpg?t=1226537907

The actual boathouse, right, is full of, well, boats - so the Maid is outside. She's been there for the past 6 years with work slow and steady, (weather and other projects permitting). Before being in the tent she had sat unprotected outside for a few years after the new hull was damaged by a falling tree.I have posted the whole story on abacoforum.com if anyone's curious. Search "Endor".
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/001.jpg?t=1226538047

Decks are fibreglass over thin marine ply over planks. But of course that is very slippery, so we'll have non-skid material atttached strategically. This is better, if less traditional, than the old crushed walnut shell in the piant my dad used on his schooner years ago...Better to not fall in though!
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/Boatandroof006.jpg?t=1226538355



The only other "Maid" I've seen pics of has no forward doghouse. We do, as the interior is slightly different. The mast is on a tabernacle, allowing it to be folded down back over the cabin. Therefore, there's a bit of engineering under it to do. This design also allows for access forward with no obstruction, and a tiny marine head plumbed in. My dad rescued a beautiful old doghouse from a boatyard complete with little "jail-house" bars to protect the glass on top and bronze fittings...

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/Boatandroof013.jpg?t=1226538611

[JohnPeer]

My dad bought the empty undecked hull after it had sat for years in a builder's yard after a tree had fallen and crushed the port side. It came with a little Saab 8 hp. diesel with constant-speed (variable pitch) prop. The repairs needed were extensive, but he also replaced the garbord planks with heavier ones as well as some new ribs, knees etc.

Here he is...
:-)

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/newplanksdad.jpg?t=1226538827


Here the older wheathered planks can be seen. I guess althogether this boat has been 12 years since the start, lol, including several years outside. So, will she still be a "new" boat when finally launched? lol, Sure, I guess...

Cheers
John Peer

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/Boatandroof014newplankssmall.jpg?t=1226538655

[reddog]

John;
Where in Nova Scotia is the boat located?I am near Mahone Bay on the South Shore.The Maid of Endor design has taken my eye more than once.

Earl

[JohnPeer]

Hiya Earl,

We're just up the road in Hubbards! small world, eh?
My dad's house is right beside the little Hubbards yacht club, down near the old fishpant...
You must try to get up for a visit, my dad's retired and is there most of the time, let me know...he loves showing her to folks!

cheers
JP

[JohnPeer]

In fact Earl, do you know the boatbuilder Billy Lutwig from Mahone Bay? (Indian Point maybe it is, he has a boat shop)....he helped my dad with the repairs to the hull a few years back...It was down that way where the tree fell on her...not at Billy's though, lol
jp

[StevenBauer]

She looks great, John. Tell your dad there are people all over the world that are looking forward to the launch pics. I've been to Billy Lutwig's shop. It used to be Vernon Langille's shop. :)


Steven

[reddog]

John;
Yup,I know Bill fairly well,we live a couple of kilometers from him in The Narrows.Bill is a really great guy a real gentleman.
I also am familiar where your dad is.I get to Hubbards often in my travels for the Mun. of Chester.I'd love to have a look at the boat sometime.

Earl

PS It just clicked in my brain.The schooner Peers Fancy right?

[JohnPeer]

Well, that's interesting...small world indeed - at least that of wooden boats!

I'll be sure to update over the winter with more pics...as the weather turns here in NS, it slows down the tent jobs...but then it's time for the fiddly bits made in the shop. I believe my dad wants to next put the cabin sides in, no roof, which will go on later after more interior work is done...
Earl, let me know when you're next in the area... I'm there most weekends...even tomorrow and Sat! lol
jp

[reddog]

Thanks John,will do.

Earl

[JohnPeer]

Yes that's right "Peer's Fancy"...
Don Peer is my dad
;-)

[westcoastchick]

Sweet little thing and she's going to have a fitted head. I'm impressed. :cool:

[JohnPeer]

Well here it is spring '10 already, and a launch date is set for on and about June 12th. Work has continued although my dad, as always, has been sidetracked with different projects...as well as some interesting travel.

My folks picked up a little Siren 17 for use on the Saint John River - perfect for there, a small cuddy with enough room to sleep two and a surprisingly big cockpit for such a small vessel.

Anyway, on the Maid:

The hull is fully caulked, with a first coat of paint.
My dad built the bowsprit over the winter...
The cabin is now assembled and bolted to the deck, roof to follow
She'll go in without the bulwarks and rub-rail finished, just to get the hull in the water (and out again if necessary!)...and the engine tested and run up.

Here's some pics from this past weekend (May 24)


John Peer

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320102.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320101.jpg

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http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320103.jpg

[JohnPeer]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320102.jpg?t=1274828285

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320101.jpg?t=1274828337

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http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320103.jpg?t=1274828407

[donald branscom]

Well here it is spring '10 already, and a launch date is set for on and about June 12th. Work has continued although my dad, as always, has been sidetracked with different projects...as well as some interesting travel.

My folks picked up a little Siren 17 for use on the Saint John River - perfect for there, a small cuddy with enough room to sleep two and a surprisingly big cockpit for such a small vessel.

Anyway, on the Maid:

The hull is fully caulked, with a first coat of paint.
My dad built the bowsprit over the winter...
The cabin is now assembled and bolted to the deck, roof to follow
She'll go in without the bulwarks and rub-rail finished, just to get the hull in the water (and out again if necessary!)...and the engine tested and run up.

Here's some pics from this past weekend (May 24)


John Peer

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320102.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320101.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay23201019.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320103.jpg

You should NEVER set a launch date!!! A lunch date is ok though.

I would finish that rub rail NOW when it is easy to just stand beside the boat. Trying to do work on the boat when it is in the water is much more difficult. Don't worry about what other people think.

Remember it is MUCH EASIER to work on on the land than in the water!!!! Think hard about that!!

IS the RENT on the space the problem???

[Sailor]

Wow, Had I known there was a MOE just down from me I'd have been by to visit. I'm in Shubenacadie so maybe not JUST down the way but close enough that a sunday afternoon drive in a random direction could lead me there........ Looking forward to launch pics.

[StevenBauer]

Looking forward to launch pics.

Me, too. I hope there are lots of them.



Steven

[reddog]

Well here it is spring '10 already, and a launch date is set for on and about June 12th. Work has continued although my dad, as always, has been sidetracked with different projects...as well as some interesting travel.

My folks picked up a little Siren 17 for use on the Saint John River - perfect for there, a small cuddy with enough room to sleep two and a surprisingly big cockpit for such a small vessel.

Anyway, on the Maid:

The hull is fully caulked, with a first coat of paint.
My dad built the bowsprit over the winter...
The cabin is now assembled and bolted to the deck, roof to follow
She'll go in without the bulwarks and rub-rail finished, just to get the hull in the water (and out again if necessary!)...and the engine tested and run up.

Here's some pics from this past weekend (May 24)


John Peer

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320102.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320101.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay23201019.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320103.jpg (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/HubbardsMaidofEndorMay2320103.jpg)

John;
Good to hear you are still at it.I have looked for your dad's place a couple of times in my travels down to Hubbards but for the life of me could not see where the boat is.I'm still interested in having a look if you don't mind and can give a location or Civic #.Shoot me a PM if you want.
Thanks;
Earl

[JohnPeer]

""IS the RENT on the space the problem??? "'

Lol...you could say that...my mom wants it out of her back yard after 7 years!

no, you're right...there is much more work to do out of the water...and it will be. It's going in mostly to get the hull wet and see how well she closes up (or doesn't, lol). Remember, this hull was started about 15 years ago, and although she's been re-caulked, she's never been in the water

...and as well to align the engine and shaft...she'll be coming out again fairly quickly as I'll explain...

(We did the same thing with our schooner years ago...she went in hull and cabin tight just to get her out of the boatyard in East Chester, but there was much more to be done...although in THAT case, my dad DID work on her...but we could careen her against our wharf, where she floated at high tide, and sat on her keel at low...)

For THIS vessel, we have a boat house just big enough to pull her into right straight from the cove, once the slip ways are finished...I have some more boulders to move first. But she needs to be "launched" to get her around to the doors....

j

[JohnPeer]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k273/johnpeer/028.jpg?t=1275341555

[reddog]

Ha,ha, thanks John I think I have my bearings now.

Earl

[JohnPeer]

We will be putting the rub rails on actually tommorrow after all...they're soaking in the cove for a few days and we'll be firing up the steam box first thing in the AM (Earl, if you're around, drop down...just park at the fish plant site and stroll into the yacht club, can't miss us)...the tent is off and the boat is open for the first time in 7 years...sure is nice to see her from a few feet back.

Here's a profile view...bear in mind that there is a few inches of bulwarks not on yet, or the rub rails.

And no cabin top of course, that will actually not go on until my dad has finished the interior work. Anyone that has tried to build in 4'6" headroom will get why.

More caulking today on the transom...in fact she was opened up a bit too far so we fit a couple splines, and left one seam (well above the waterline) until we see how she swells...



Decided not to paint the bronze thru-hull fittings for the exhaust or head, like how they look nekkid... ;-)

Used "cetol" for the cabins btw, rather than varnish.
Will likely end up painting them in a year or two anyway...white most likely.

The "plan" is, for Friday or Sat - we'll leave her on her cradle for a few days at the top half of the tide, keeping the water below the little Saab as much as possible with the pumps...


Cheers
John
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[StevenBauer]

Looking awesome, John. You must be getting excited.



Steven

[submariner]

Thanks for all the pics. I'm going to start lofting my long awaited MOE this summer and I'm finding this very inspirational. I notice that you have changed the design of the bowsprit, possibly shortening it? Do you have any commentary about that choice?

[JohnPeer]

Hi Submariner,

What you see there is just the "mount" for the bowsprit, e.g. there will be another much longer spar that will lie alongside it, and be "retractable" for trailering, docking etc...

It IS a slight modification from the original "fixed" plan, but will keep the line of the original plans...where the full bowsprit is part of the beauty, don't worry!

Keep in touch, as we'll post how the "retractable" sprit looks, you may like it....

She went in today...this AM we managed to slap on some copper bottom kote, and mounted the rudder...although she's not going anywhere...

The first hour or two as the tide came up around her, the seams leaked at first but I was surprised at how fast they seemed to close up.

The tide is ebbing now and we've the next 10 hours on the cradle until she floats off tomorrow, after we push her a few feet further down the ramp...

here's some pics...

J

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs344.ash1/29355_403705385918_578335918_4837917_4675154_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1505628&id=578335918)

Pulled up onto the tip-deck, bottom paint on at the last minute!


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It was necessary to turn her around to launch stern first...gave me a chance to pop the forgotten rudder cotter pins in...couldn't find stainless at the last minute...be sure to replace!

That's my dad on the left....

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Our friend Chris helps with the rudder...bronze fittings had to be custom made, no worries...

...anyone wanting to build a MOE - my dad would be glad to share what he's learned....

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It floats.

This is the last pic I took before my cam died...but more tomorrow on the next high tide.

Yes, she leaked a bit as the tide came up...but it didn't seem to take long before the pine swelled up and closed...At high tide we still had some leaking along the top of the garboard plank, but way less than I thought we'd have...I had like 5 pumps on stand-by...

...managed to keep the water below the level of the Sabb engine, except a bit of the flywheel...but it's brackish fresh water anyway...

We'll see tomorrow...high tide is about 0900, so up at dawn to man the pumps (if needed)!

She floated fine (on the cradle), and we were tempted to float her off about an hour after this pic, but we decided to stick to the plan even thought the leaks slowed wayyy down to almost nothing - pretty good for 12 years after the fist plank was fitted! (see history above, lol...it shouldn't take YOU that long!)

J

[JohnPeer]

...one more pic someone sent me, lol...

She's pretty well afloat here, almost. By now, after just 2-3 hours the seams really seemed to have closed up...this was wayyyy faster than I'd hoped. My dad wasn't sure how long it would take...thinking it might take a day or two.

We shall see. Some of the seams above the waterline of course still need to "close up"...don't go sailing yet! Still, I'm well pleased for my dad, as cautious as he remains - I can tell he's well chuffed!

The plan is that these upper seams will close as the lower ones swell up...plus the boat is open to the rain for a few weeks anyway...(except the engine will be covered).

The transom had seams that were so far open (about 1/4 inch!!) that my dad fitted "splines" of oak in them at the last minute...except the top seam, where any "slack" can be found as the bottom 3 seams swell....

Cheers

J

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[JohnPeer]

Also, don't forget, and I expect most of you regular types kniw this, lol...there is still a 3-4 inch bulwarks (railing) to be fitted along the edge of the deck, don't worry.

As for the cabin tops...my dad decided that he would leave those off while he completes the interior, at the wharf, over the next month or two....although he'll fit a "rough" plywood temporary top...

Years ago, with his schooner "Peer's Fancy", he had similar "rough" cabin coverings that went on every winter, and someone once commented, from shore, "She's a beauty, but the cabin's could use a coat of paint!"

J

[JohnPeer]

""Looking awesome, John. You must be getting excited.""

Lol...thanks Steve...it's been a heck of a day...it's 1 AM and I can't sleep...I think I'll take one more stroll over and check on her! The tide's down and she's safe on her cradle for the night...

Both my dad and I have had bigger and burlier vessels over the years, but I cannot remember ever falling in love with one like this Maid, and I don't know quite why that is...

;-)

[wizbang 13]

"The last pic before my cam died"..... Doh!! Spring just got nicer for you guys, huh?

[submariner]

Congratulations! it's a good day for the world when a maid hits the water for the first time. The boat is beautiful. I'm sure I will have many questions for you but I wont bother you with them now. You have bigger things on the mind. Keep the pictures and progress coming!

[JohnPeer]

So the second high tide, she was tightened right up and no longer leaking - maybe just a trickle here and there.

This week he's going to line up the prop shaft and we'll see if this little 8hp Sabb (Not Saab!) constant-speed (variable pitch) system will fire up!

John


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Once seperated from the cradle, which insisted on coming along for the first few feet, a quick tug-boat around to a spare berth at the Hubbards Cove Marina....

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Thanks to the Hubbards Cove tugboat Company...very professional!

Not every cove has this service!

;-)

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And there she lies...

Floating nice, light and high...the way you want to see a boat with no spars, cabin tops, combings, taffrail, bulwarks, floors etc etc...

No more leaks after the second tide...maybe a gallon in an hour!

Still seams well above the waterline to close up, so we'll be keeping a vigil, trust me... Bring on the rain, says I.

J

[Thad]

Beautiful! Cheers!!!

[Sailor]

Nice work. She's got to be the prettiest boat for her size.

[JohnPeer]

Thanks guys...will post more in a couple weeks when back from Californee!

John

[JohnPeer]

Quick update, Feb 2011

The Saab diesel started up, after installing the wiring/exhaust fuel lines etc....but not until she was back on land, so we couldn't test the variable-pitch prop.

The Saab uses little "explosive cigarettes" inserted in the cylinder for a cold start, but it took a while...


She's under a tent for the NS winter, and my dad, Don Peer, is about to start on the spars...he likes to make his own - hollow as well.

The sails have been ordered from Stevens in Lunenburg after he modified the main a tiny bit to lengthen the gaff a small amount. They're to be tan bark red.

Cheers
John

[JayInOz]

What a lovely boat! How long will we have to wait for the next update John? And when he's finished with the build- could I borrow your Dad? :) JayInOz

[JohnPeer]

hahaha...I dunno Jay, my mom keeps him pretty busy, lol....

76, and says he's not had a moment's spare time since he retired!

Things should pick up in the next few months...it's a long cozy winter here in Nova Scotia. Next up are the rub rails, cabin top and cock-pit combings....and of course the spars, which he says he'll start when the little wood stove brings the boathouse up above freezing...

Sure wish we had your long sailing season up here...

[submariner]

Mr. Peer,
Glad to see you are still at it. How is the fitting out going? I have started building my Maid- today the I drug the keel timber up out of the woods with a cable and took it off to get kiln dried. I should be finishing up the lofting this weekend or next. If you have more photos for motivation's sake I'm sure everybody would love to see them! I'll post some of mine when I have a little bit more tangible progress.
-Jonathan

[Sailor]

WOW, two MOEs a buildin'. I like it. I fell in love with her when I was a young teen and she's always struck my fance but practicality has me gunning for more tonnage. Mabye I'll stop by some time. I meant to earlier and have yet to find the time. I've now got a redbird canoe and a catspaw dinghy under construction in my shop so time is short. I do love that boat though.

[JohnPeer]

Jonathan...that's good to hear.

Update on the "lil' Hooker"...

We ran the first sea trials with the little Sabb diesel today. It takes a little cranking to get her started (about 25 seconds)...starting with the compression lever off for a bout 5 seconds, full throttle, and then 'following' her with the starter until she starts to rev up on her own. This is a variable-pitch 8 HP Sabb built in Norway.

Once warmed up, we left the mooring (towing my zodiac, lol) and started to experiment with the correct RPM's anjd propeller pitch....good fun.
We found the best RPM for the least vibration (almost none) and then we sped up/slowed down by adjusting the prop pitch! Some small adjustments are necessary to the throttle.

We were pleasently surprised at just how much 'power' this arrangement provides. By getting the little diesel up to it's comfortable RPM (we have no tach), which is about 3/4 throttle, as you add pitch to the prop, she takes off like a little tugboat!

When the prop reaches full pitch, we add a few RPM's until a comfortable speed is reached. We had no GPS aboard, but it was a good 5 knots! Alittle over the Maid's Hull speed I think, but very little wake. (remember square root of the waterline length in feet, times 1.3 is best max hull speed for most displacement hulls.)

The next few days I'll take some vids and try to link to them. My dad has not started the spars yet, but his slightly modified sail plan is ready, and sails will be ordered from Michelle Stevens this fall.

This year is finishing the gun'whals, cabin top and he has finished drafting the blue prints for the mast tabernacle (to lower the mast to pass under bridges!)

As well as working on the interior. It's a slow and steady, and the foul weather this spring slowed him a bit.

Reminder______anyone in the Halifax area!! Don't forget that the 50 th anniversary for the Nova Scotia Schooner association is this year, and RACE WEEK returns to our Hubbards Cove, where the association was founded aboard the schooner "Adare".

It runs from July 31 to Aug 6, and features daily races in St Margaret's Bay, as well as nightly entertainment in the big event tent being set up at the Hubbards Marina (the site of the former fish plant)...beer garden, music, wooden schooners X 6 days...it's gonna be fun!

It's an open event for everyone to enjoy, and I have created a facebook group for it as well. Of course, the Lil' Hooker will be here for anyone to come take a gander, and even come for a motor with my dad and I!

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/event.php?eid=181284965264629

[JohnPeer]

I have been enjoying Jonathan's building log on another thread - great stuff!
I know what it's like to get sidetracked with other projects, lol...and so does my dad.

He and my mom have another little fibre-glass boat (Sirius 20) that they sail most of the summer at their cottage in Saint John - so progress is slowed...although the little stern rail is on, and the combings are made, but not fitted.

The cabin top you see in the pic is a temporary plywood one...which got a few odd looks this summer from some of the schooners passing by in Hubbards...but I'm sure they must have guessed what it was!

The little 8hp Sabb starts great now, and pushes her along really well. We still have some "hunting" at idle, and the throttle seems VERY sensitive...a small movement causes her to rev way up, and a tiny move down, brings her almost to a stall.

If anyone knows these little diesels, let me know. We think it may be the governor spring...injector nozzle tested good, as did injector pump.

Anyway, here's a pic from the other day, look at her go!
(remember, the gun'els aren't on yet)

Oh, but the little doghouse hatch is affixed. Yes, it's not in the original design...but it's needed for head room for the little marine head, lol...ALSO not in the design - but a "concession" to my mom!

Wow...WB has made some changes here?...no matter how small I make the pic, it says "you have exceed you quote by 77 KB ??

Lol - these things are usually user error...I'll try later.

john

[JohnPeer]

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[JohnPeer]

Grrr...I cannot seem to post pics anymore...I DID on here for the past 2 years...am I missing something??
Absurdly, there seems to be a 15 KB limit??
;-D

[StevenBauer]

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Beautiful!

[JohnPeer]

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[JohnPeer]

^*^$#^&!!!!!!
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[JohnPeer]

Thanks Steven...can you tell me what you did?
I do so much internet posting, where now you can just easily insert a pic, I forgot how to add pics the old-fashioned way by linking to a site...I tried photobucket, still no luck!T
thanks again

[SBrookman]

John, copy your image from Facebook, wherever, (right click, save image location). Then click the Image Icon above. Select From URL, Paste it, uncheck Retrieve Remote File... and there you go. We look forward to seeing more pics.