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Mexced
03-16-2012, 07:33 AM
Hello All,

I´am looking for more information on a old wooden Rana Boat which i have.

In this link you can see the boat.

http://picasaweb.google.com/mexced/RanaBoat#

This Rana Boat is old, but how old exactly? And does somebody knows it's model number/type?

It is a wooden row boat with copper rivets. When i was young about 7/8 years the boat
was i think about 30 years old, but i could be wrong. Now it's 2012 and we can add 34 more years.
Was this model build about 60 years ago? This row boat was converted a long time ago to a sail boat.

At this moment i'am restoring this Rana Boat, so every information is welcome.

I've looked on the internet, and can not find any info about it. I kept a old piece of paper
which says it was build at the Rana Batfabrikka.

Greetings Steven.



Greetings Steven.

Peerie Maa
03-16-2012, 08:47 AM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-BRaQmDSbAZE/T2JPtTuaGKI/AAAAAAAABFo/wiN5JvWMp8g/s512/Rana%20Boat%2004.jpg
This is a really nice praam. I do believe that these boats are no longer in production since about 1970. However a praam is the easiest boat to restore. What does she need doing, and where are you?

Mexced
03-16-2012, 01:50 PM
It's a praam, but that is a general definition for a flat-bottomed boat. Who knows the exact name, of this type of Rana Boat?
I'am located in The Netherlands, this Rana Boat used to be a dinghy for a Tjalk. Which are in the first pictures.
The restoration involves the corners at the back, in the middle there is a sword casing which has disintegrated:-)

http://bit.ly/wXw0rw

Some oak trusses (don't know if this is the correct word) are going to be replaced.

At the moment i'am removing all the paint, and lots of sanding.

Greetings Steven.

Peerie Maa
03-16-2012, 03:37 PM
It's a praam, but that is a general definition for a flat-bottomed boat. Who knows the exact name, of this type of Rana Boat?
I'am located in The Netherlands, this Rana Boat used to be a dinghy for a Tjalk. Which are in the first pictures.
The restoration involves the corners at the back, in the middle there is a sword casing which has disintegrated:-)

http://bit.ly/wXw0rw

Some oak trusses (don't know if this is the correct word) are going to be replaced.

At the moment i'am removing all the paint, and lots of sanding.

Greetings Steven.

A quick lesson in boat building English.
The "corners" at the back are the stern quarters, you photo shows the quarter knees detached from the transom.
By trusses you could mean timbers, which run across the boat as frames, or the knees that you have removed.
The "Sword casing" is a dagger board case if the board does not pivot, or a centre board case if it does.

Praam in Norwegian or pram in English is the term for your boat, a round bottom boat with a bow transom.

Peerie Maa
03-16-2012, 03:43 PM
By the way, Rana also built these:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/3930481272_c2c6b31a1c.jpg

Mexced
03-16-2012, 04:06 PM
Thanks for the boat building English lesson, very usefull info. Also never new it was called centre board.
The picture, from the other Rana sail boat is very nice!

keith66
03-16-2012, 06:58 PM
Rana boats were imported into the UK in some numbers in the 1970's, i think they were built in one of the Baltic states.
I was given a very rotten one 20 years ago, she came from the front garden of a heroin junkie who had died of an overdose. Both sheer strakes were rotten so they were summarily ripped of & replaced with some pine floorboards from a skip.
I tarred the whole boat with pitch & she served for another couple of years. In a case of black humour we named her "The dead mans Gig".
When she finally leaked so bad we couldnt be bothered any more we filled her with scrap timber & burned her at a yacht club barbecue on the Ray sand off Southend. Proper vikings funeral!

johnw
03-16-2012, 07:07 PM
By the way, Rana also built these:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/3930481272_c2c6b31a1c.jpg

These were imported into the Northwest by Dick Wagner, who started the Center for Wooden Boats. I've sailed one quite a bit. It had a jib, which needed to be backed every time you tacked. Fast reaching, not so much to windward. Not a good livery boat, because inexperienced sailors had trouble maneuvering it.

lagspiller
03-17-2012, 05:07 PM
I may be able to help a bit.
Rana is a district in Nordland, Norway. Specifically, on the coast of Helgeland. The local traditional boats rowboats, called ranabåt, have roots going back to Viking times. They built and sold huge numbers of the 'Rana' style of boat - in direct competition with the other boat tradition in the district... Saltdal boats. You clearly haven't heard of Rana, but you may have heard of the huge tidal current - the Saltstraum - "Salt Stream". If that doesn't sound familiar, perhaps it will help you place the geography if I say that the polar circle crosses Norway at Saltfjell ... 'Salt Mountain'.

Here is a bit of info I've 'quick-translated' from Wikipedia...

Rana boat. While the boats of Saltdal showed great emphasis on the ability to turn by having relatively short keels, the Ranværings (people of Rana) chose a relatively long and straight keel in their variation of the spissboat. This represented a partial continuation of the Nordland rowboat tradition, where the long keel and deep stems are two of the most important characteristics. At the aft the keel runs horizontally back to a sharp turn upward at the stern. But one of the breaks with tradition is that the stems stands upright on the keel as they do on Eastern Norwegian skiffs, while the tradition in Saltdal had a 'lot' between the keel and the stem, as in most "classic" types of rowboats in the country. [A 'lot' is a the transition part the keel between the flat part under the boat and the upright part at the stems.]

The Rana boat is a rowing boat of greater directional stability, but far harder to turn than the Saltdal boat because it has a longer and deeper keel stems.

Boat builders in Rana previously sold thousands of boats [spissbåter] to the rest of the country in competition with Saltdal.

Boatbuilder in Rana used almost exclusively spruce in boat building, while builders in Salten also used pine.

Today Rana båtverk produces fiberglass boats exclusively. But I assume it is the same boatyard that once made your boat.

Mexced
03-17-2012, 05:31 PM
Thank you for this very usefull information! It turns out then i was wrong about the wood. Bought new wood today, but because i have not used i can return it.
I've looked on Google Norway, could this be the company http://www.rana-plast.no/ ?

lagspiller
03-17-2012, 05:35 PM
I can do better than that. Here are a whole bunch of links...
http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&source=hp&q=ranab%C3%A5t&meta=&aq=f&oq (http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&source=hp&q=ranab%C3%A5t&meta=&aq=f&oq)=

Mexced
03-17-2012, 05:38 PM
Oh wow thank you for these links. I found a rana boat the same is mine!

http://bit.ly/wPZM0y

Thank you so much!!

lagspiller
03-17-2012, 05:50 PM
Here's a link that might be of more use to you... http://ulf.no/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=74

Mexced
03-17-2012, 05:54 PM
Thank you for the link, i can mail to them for more information.