Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

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  • skipper68
    Banned
    • May 2010
    • 5700

    Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

    I had an interesting PM from a gentleman on not commenting on the women getting birth control coverage. Meli suggested I post this to the Bilge- so here goes:
    "Grothman(A MAN- OF COURSE) -- who has NEVER been married and has NO CHILDREN"..Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married-(Note:Grothman has advanced and supported other policies "that make it harder to access prevention-based health services so that they can prevent pregnancy, so that they're not in a situations here they have an unintended or unwanted pregnancy,") (Note:Grothman is also the sponsor of Wisconsin State Bill 202, which would repeal the state's Equal Pay Enforcement Act.)
    Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married! In Wisconsin, a state senator has introduced a bill aimed at penalizing single mothers by calling their unmarried status a contributing factor in child abuse and neglect.http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/wis...011200419.html
    I see there is no mention of a bill to actually make the father be responsible and stay in the home, acting like a father tho...Guys an idjit..
  • John Smith
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 48842

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    Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

    At the risk of being redundant, the first, most basic right a child has is to be born into a home where he is wanted.

    Nothing is gained by forcing a woman to bear a child she'd rather not have.

    My old proposal is looking better: the one about garnishing 7% of the father's pay with no visitation rights. At some point the guys will be more careful.
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    • Osborne Russell
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 27150

      #3
      Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

      Why not let the market decide if it wants marriage, how much, at what price?
      Do not speak of "our institutions" unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf.

      Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny (2017)​

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      • skuthorp
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2002
        • 73700

        #4
        Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

        [QUOTE=skipper68;3338108]I see there is no mention of a bill to actually make the father be responsible and stay in the home, acting like a father tho...Guys an idjit..

        Fat chance whilst men are the majority of legislators and moral relativism rules.

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        • JimD
          Senior Mumbler
          • Feb 2002
          • 29714

          #5
          Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

          Originally posted by John Smith
          At the risk of being redundant, the first, most basic right a child has is to be born into a home where he is wanted. Nothing is gained by forcing a woman to bear a child she'd rather not have.

          .
          So what you're really saying is the first right of a child is to not be born in the first place? Until now I hadn't considered the possibility that being aborted is the first right of an unborn child.
          There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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          • Wavewacker
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 679

            #6
            Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

            [QUOTE=skipper68;3338108]I had an interesting PM from a gentleman on not commenting on the women getting birth control coverage. Meli suggested I post this to the Bilge- so here goes: I see there is no mention of a bill to actually make the father be responsible and stay in the home, acting like a father tho...Guys an idjit..r

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            • JimD
              Senior Mumbler
              • Feb 2002
              • 29714

              #7
              Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

              Originally posted by Osborne Russell
              Why not let the market decide if it wants marriage, how much, at what price?
              I think that's an excellent idea. The market has been successfully doing this with sex for thousands of years. Why not marriage, too?
              There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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              • Wavewacker
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 679

                #8
                Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                Something screwed up! I said, why don't they find the most socially deficient, fattest, ugliest, toothless mother who can't cook and have him marry her! I would think most of the moms are looking for a good guy, but the guys are just being too darn selective!

                Is their fault or the guys who knock them up and run away from responsibilities or beat them until they have to leave to protect themselves?

                Is there a contest going on between conservative republicans to see who can be the most absurd?

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                • Osborne Russell
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 27150

                  #9
                  Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                  Originally posted by JimD
                  I think that's an excellent idea. The market has been successfully doing this with sex for thousands of years. Why not marriage, too?
                  Because marriage is the Bible.
                  Do not speak of "our institutions" unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf.

                  Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny (2017)​

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                  • Osborne Russell
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 27150

                    #10
                    Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                    Originally posted by Wavewacker
                    I see there is no mention of a bill to actually make the father be responsible and stay in the home, acting like a father tho...
                    Now that would be a shotgun wedding, eh? But the difference is this, when we subsidize birth control, we are subsidizing her fun, not his. He asks for no subsidy, only opportunity.
                    Do not speak of "our institutions" unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf.

                    Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny (2017)​

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                    • skipper68
                      Banned
                      • May 2010
                      • 5700

                      #11
                      Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                      But the difference is this, when we subsidize birth control, we are subsidizing her fun, not his.
                      Viagra is subsidized for "HIS" fun....so, a pregnancy resulting is OK? I married, as I wanted a family. I had 8 pregnancy's, yet lost 4, at 8 weeks along.(Who should be blamed?)I had scripts. I had to be bedridden, with no stairs till past 28 weeks. IT WAS MY CHOICE. My x chose this at the time to find other entertainment. Was it my fault for ditching the marriage, yet keeping the baby's? I have been happily married for 19 years now, to a man who knows commitment. This war on women needs a balance. NO woman I know, has a baby because its to inconvenient to use protection. They BELIEVE the father when they say-yes-I will be a father. As I have said before, make females tubes blocked, till they get a license to reproduce. Car, Gun, you need a license-what is more important than a human? I love all our kids and grand kids, yet watched my daughters make the same mistake. A woman will put up with much to keep a family together. Men, just walk away and send a check. We cant go back to the years where marriage was forever. We can make men be more responsible for their children. This bill is such a joke.
                      Last edited by skipper68; 03-10-2012, 05:22 PM.

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                      • skipper68
                        Banned
                        • May 2010
                        • 5700

                        #12
                        Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                        So what you're really saying is the first right of a child is to not be born in the first place? Until now I hadn't considered the possibility that being aborted is the first right of an unborn child.
                        A woman from puberty has an unborn child, every month. IF that is how you look at it.

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                        • skipper68
                          Banned
                          • May 2010
                          • 5700

                          #13
                          Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                          [QUOTE=Smitty;3338471]
                          Originally posted by skipper68
                          I had an interesting PM from a gentleman on not commenting on the women getting birth control coverage. Meli suggested I post this to the Bilge- so here goes: I see there is no mention of a bill to actually make the father be responsible and stay in the home, acting like a father tho...Guys an idjit..r
                          What is your point?

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                          • wardd
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 15162

                            #14
                            Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                            i hope the republicans keep going on this social craze, woman vote too, or have the republicans forgotten that

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                            • Chris Coose
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 12283

                              #15
                              Re: Wisconsin Bill Claims Single Moms Cause Child Abuse by Not Being Married!

                              Same thought wardd.
                              Viva Republican continued absence of empathy for women!!!!!

                              Love it. Just sit by. Don't do a thing while they strangle themselves.
                              Study Peace

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