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timo4352
02-05-2012, 03:01 AM
For those that might be interested, I've started a blog for the build of a 13' stick-up rigged sharpie (or flattie, if you like). It can be found here: http://stickupsharpie.wordpress.com/

The only way I was going to find out what one sails like was to build it, so I'm getting started.
I'll follow along with it on this thread if there is interest.

Wish me luck

Tim

johnno
02-05-2012, 03:40 AM
Good move! Looking forward to watching your progress, and build methods. :) The very best of luck with it too.

johnw
02-05-2012, 03:51 AM
I've always wanted to know what those sailed like.

orbb
02-05-2012, 07:42 AM
Is that from Parker's book?

Eddiebou
02-05-2012, 08:15 AM
Great! I'll be aboard for this build. What's your location? 13 feet? Why 13? Maybe you should be talking to a sailmaker if you want to be in the water this summer. Or are you gonna build them yourself?

wollybugger
02-05-2012, 09:48 AM
Great blog, looking forward to the progress!

davebrown
02-05-2012, 11:23 AM
These little skiffs are sure interesting. I bought an old WB that had an article in it on this one, and damned if the article hadn't been torn out. So I've never got to read about except in Parker's book. They look so COOL! Building the sails on a little boat like this would be easy, and save you a few hundred dollars. Our Sailrite kit for COquina was fool proof.

Wavewacker
02-05-2012, 11:51 AM
Great, more to watch and learn....thanks!

timo4352
02-05-2012, 07:19 PM
I got a little done today. Stem apron cut and mounted on the strongback. Doesn't seem like much but it took me all day.
This boat is based from the plans in Parker's sharpie book - it's 16 foot there. I wanted a little smaller - hoping if it comes out light enough that I can dolly it to launch off a local beach. If not, that'll be OK too. Haven't quite decided yet but I'm thinking of making my own sails from Tyvek. You can get it unmarked somewhere I've found.
Johnno your Egret build is an inspiration - I'm checking your progress every day. If I could build as fast as you a summer launch would be for sure.

leaotis
02-05-2012, 07:58 PM
Two unique Sharpie builds to watch, Woo Hoo!

coelacanth2
02-06-2012, 12:56 AM
I have the plans for the 16' version and it will be my next (and last) build. After that it's time to get going on the. Iv project. The Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum did one of the 16 footers a couple of years ago, but with traditional planking rather than plywood. It would have been a LOT heavier than the ply boat and I think they may have been underwhelmed with its performance.

wely
02-07-2012, 09:38 PM
I can't wait! I love a good sharper build thread.

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timo4352
02-19-2012, 08:06 PM
I've made some progress on my sharpie. Chines and sheer clamps fitted and glued up. They were all left long on the transom end. Once the epoxy sets up good and hard I'll trim them off flush. Still lots of fussy fitting either way, maybe less this way, but far from easy. I'm gonna have to pad out the transom frame too. All my measuring and I still got it wrong - live and learn, I guess. But it'll still work out OK. A piece of 1/4" ply will finish the transom off then. Using West sytsem epoxy so far. Fairing coming up next.

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johnw
02-19-2012, 08:18 PM
Looking like a boat already!

sailboy3
02-19-2012, 09:28 PM
Well done, I'll be enjoying this one.

wely
02-19-2012, 10:14 PM
Nice job so far. Keep up the good work. I know we all will be a watching!

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davebrown
02-20-2012, 01:22 AM
Great work so far.

wely
02-22-2012, 08:17 PM
Keep posting Pics! We can't wait to see the finished product!

timo4352
02-25-2012, 10:42 PM
The slow progress continues...
I've got the fairing of the chines and keel plank just about done. I used my 4 foot aluminum level, coated the one edge with black magic marker - (Sharpie, of course) and used it like a huge pencil of sorts across the bottom of the boat. Rubbing it back and forth left marks on the chines where I needed to plane some wood off. Rub, mark, plane, repeat. Rub, mark, plane, repeat. Seems to work pretty well though- so I'll stick with it. Laying a scrap of plywood across looks like a pretty good fit. Looks like I'm going to have to fair top to bottom also so the topsides fit nice and flat just the same. Using the same level marking stick trick there too so far. I should be ready to scarf some plywood for the planking real soon. I'll get ya some pics when there's something to show.

johnno
02-25-2012, 11:17 PM
Good news Timo, glad to hear she's progressing well. Don't forget Mr Gibbs and Mr Lemonhands like pics of fairing and sanding ;)

timo4352
02-26-2012, 11:08 PM
Lots of planing this weekend. Fairing the chines and sheer clamps. (hope I'm using all the right terms/names)
Transom frame is all padded out and cleaned up, faired. Fairing the stringers was not possible at the molds because I had a nail holding them in place... and screws would be next to impossible to remove from the molds after the planking was on... what to do? After a little thought I remembered the peg and lashing from my kayak building, So that's what I did. Now they'll all stay solid while I finish fairing. When it comes time to remove the molds I just cut the lashing and have an 1/8" peg to cut or break at each spot. May even be able to save the molds this way too. Looking at the boat with a faux plank on there has me thinking about possibly planking in lapstrake - what do you think? Am I crazy to make more work for myself this way? Would it look better? I'm sure plywood will be much quicker, but I wonder...
Got to sleep on that one.
Tim

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timo4352
03-03-2012, 09:59 PM
...Hard to believe a week has gone by already...

I got my plywood for the planking the other day. I bought 1/4″ Sureply from Lowe’s. Sureply is offered as a premium underlayment. It costs $20 a sheet and marine ply was more than twice as much. The Sureply uses waterproof glue and I have not seen any voids yet. It’s better than I at first thought it might be, so I think it’ll make a fine, inexpensive little boat. It may change my mind also about using only marine ply for my catamaran build that’s coming up. Might be able to start that sooner than I thought… but let’s get this one done first, OK?
I spent about 8 hours today trimming up the transom ply and scarphing up the sheets for the planking. I got fast hardener for the West Systems epoxy so I hope to be ready to start planking the topsides tomorrow.
The scarphs were made 12:1 – 3 inches long for 1/4″ plywood. Sounds kinda impossible when you say it but it worked out OK. All done with a hand plane. Lots of sweat – no blood or tears. But satisfying work.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7939.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7939.jpg) setup for scarphing


http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7943.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7943.jpg) getting started

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7970.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7970.jpg) all done

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7971.jpg?w=640&h=960 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7971.jpg)

johnno
03-03-2012, 11:18 PM
Nice to see you at it again...well done on the scarf; 12:1 is a good safe scarf for sure.

UCanoe_2
03-04-2012, 01:16 PM
Way cool!

Chappelle wrote that the skiffs with stick-up jibs were weatherly and highly regarded, and "some were said to be able to go to windward in strong winds under the stick-up sail alone, which seems impossible theoretically." I'm eager to know how it works out in practice.

johnw
03-04-2012, 04:48 PM
Way cool!

Chappelle wrote that the skiffs with stick-up jibs were weatherly and highly regarded, and "some were said to be able to go to windward in strong winds under the stick-up sail alone, which seems impossible theoretically." I'm eager to know how it works out in practice.
It would become quite possible if you put the stick up mast in the main mast's step.

timo4352
03-04-2012, 10:41 PM
It would become quite possible if you put the stick up mast in the main mast's step.

I think that's the answer also, and plan to set mine up to do just that. Maybe just some wedges or a donut to fit the larger mast partner hole. The steps could have the same size tenon hole probably. Then I could still sail in higher winds. We'll see.
Tim

timo4352
03-04-2012, 11:45 PM
Well, another marathon session in the shop today. I spent another 8 hours or so getting the topsides cut and fitted. Got the starboard side glued up. There’s a total of 85 clamps on there! I’ve got about 40 spring clamps now and the others are “make a clamps” — plywood scraps cut into squares and a drywall screw. I put packing tape on the squares so there would be no chance of them sticking. Home Depot has the 2″ spring clamps for $.99 and I’ve been grabbing 10 every time I go in.
Moving right along.
Tim
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7972.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7972.jpg) 85 clamps

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7973.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7973.jpg) make a clamp

timo4352
03-10-2012, 08:26 PM
Could it be? After those last few temporary screws went in the bottom, I realize the planking is all done! Sure the bottom still needs trimming – but a milestone in my mind anyhow. It took me about six hours today to get the bottom on. Put it on in one piece – I just cut down the middle of the aft half to create the vee in the rear bottom. Had to work hard and fast before the epoxy had a chance to set up, but I made it. Getting my son to help me was the hardest part – video games and telephones, ya know… I’ll hopefully start trimming it up tomorrow and then it’ll really look like something. Oh, and I drilled holes through the keel plank to mark where the centerboard slot will be before I put the bottom on. Now I can just drill them the rest of the way through the bottom planking and connect the dots to cut the centerboard slot. I thought it was a clever solution ,but maybe I just got a big head, I don’t know. Maybe both. And another maybe original idea — I used my stud finder to locate where to drill for the screws into the chines. Worked great – didn’t miss one time. I needed to do this because I left the bottom way wider than it needs to be. Easier for me to trim it iff later than cuss myself out for cutting it too small. That’s it for now.
Tim

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http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7985.jpg?w=487&h=394

johnw
03-10-2012, 08:49 PM
I like the stud finder idea. I used a router to trim the edges off Black Swan's bottom, then trimmed the rest with a plane. Is that what you've got planned?

timo4352
03-10-2012, 09:56 PM
Yes, I used the router on the topsides. And finished up with the plane, like you said. Works great. And fast.
Tim

Eddiebou
03-11-2012, 08:17 AM
You're doin' a nice job. I don't own "The Sharpie Book", but I have read/reviewed it. I'm surprised by the amount of deadrise and depth at the stern. I assume you're gonna 'glass the hull on the outside. What sort of treatment are you planning to use on the inside? Or is the boat primarily going to be out of the weather?
I think I'm gonna throw a scrap of Sureply in the slack tub just to see how it holds up.

timo4352
03-11-2012, 09:53 AM
I do plan on using fiberglass or xynole on the outside. West or maybe CPES on the inside - and paint. She will be trailered and stored inside, or at least covered. I've got a piece of Sureply in the dishwasher now - looks fine after six or eight cyles now...
Tim

Breakaway
03-11-2012, 02:41 PM
Nice looking build.

How does that sureply bend and cut?

Kevin

timo4352
03-11-2012, 03:20 PM
Thank you.
Sureply cuts fine - no problems. Hard outer veneer, birch? I think. Sharp splinters. Innermost layer looks like Luan. Other two layers are soft(ish) , pine? maybe. No voids at all so far. Bends fairly.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7970.jpg?w=640&h=426

timo4352
03-11-2012, 09:27 PM
I had a very productive weekend working on the boat. Spent about another six hours today. Got the bottom planking all trimmed up nice. Then epoxied tootpicks in all the screw holes. Those will get cleaned up over the next couple days.
Now I’ve got to contemplate my next step, hmmm…..
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8000.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8000.jpg)http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8008.jpg?w=640&h=498 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8008.jpg)http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7994.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp7994.jpg)
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johnno
03-11-2012, 09:40 PM
Very satisfying I bet Timo! She looks sweet, lovely lines, and you can really see that hull now. I'm too lazy to read backwards; are you glassing her or just painting?

timo4352
03-11-2012, 10:20 PM
I'm thinking about trying Xynole fabric rather than fiberglass. I've got to do some studying up on it first.
This will be my first whole hull covering using either one, other than a floorboard repair on my fiberglass boat - which worked out OK.
Tim

timo4352
03-13-2012, 07:52 AM
Here's one I suppose I should have posted from the beginning - 1/4 lofting plans for my sharpie
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6973599523_52d59ecf5f_z.jpg

Tim

johngsandusky
03-13-2012, 08:21 AM
Nice!

timo4352
03-17-2012, 09:04 PM
And now - Weekend Update - with...:D (you do watch SNL - don't you?) (OK, sorry):rolleyes:

I worked on the skeg today. I have plenty of one inch thick DF so I laminated a skeg blank. –Then, I’m thinking I’ll make a pattern from a piece of 1/4″ plywood, fit it to the rocker of the boat, and trace that on my blank. Cut it out and do the final fitting from there. Would have been less work using a wider board on edge, but this wood was free and I’m trying to keep the budget under control. Plus - I’m hoping the vertical grain will eliminate any tendancy of cupping in the skeg.
After the glue up I played around with marking the waterline on the out side of the hull. You can see the crazy setup I used, but it worked for me. I’ll figure out a way to connect the dots later on.
All told so far I’ve got about 80 hours into the project.
And about $240
Tim

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8019.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8019.jpg)http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8020.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8020.jpg)
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johnno
03-17-2012, 09:29 PM
Nice progress Tim. 'X' marks the spots...be careful :)

hokiefan
03-17-2012, 10:06 PM
My copy of "The Sharpie Book" is quite dogeared. I love the hull of the Stickup Skiff, and would consider it heavily to build. I can't quite wrap my head around the rig, would probably replace the stickup with a balanced jib like Parker's crab skiff has. Or maybe just build the Crab Skiff. Great work so far, enjoy the build and the boat.

Cheers,

Bobby

timo4352
03-18-2012, 08:35 AM
Besides the unique look, I like the idea that the jib luff will be kept straight by the stick-up mast, and the jib will set better because of it, I think. I've also read of a tendancy to depress the bow, which might be possible. If it doesn't work out as hoped, I'll go with the balance jib, which is kinda cool too.
Tim

Michael Wick
03-18-2012, 09:48 AM
Too late, now, but I built a Redmond WHISP. There he had you laminate the lapstrakes on the flat and bend around the molds. Works fine and looks good.

timo4352
03-18-2012, 11:39 AM
On Duckworks March splash page - another stick-up. Good to know I'm not alone in my quest here. Y>
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/12/splash/march/index.html

timo4352
03-18-2012, 09:14 PM
I got about five hours in today on the boat. Worked on the skeg again. It’s pretty much roughed in now, I’d call it. I used a 1/4 plywood template – scribed and shaved, scribed and shaved until I got a good fit. Then traced it onto my blank. Cut it with the “worlds crappiest bandsaw setup” – but that’s what I got so… It came out good regardless. A little trimming with the belt sander and I’m pretty darn close. Some will get cut out on the back end for the sternpost to fit into but that’s another day…
Another satisfying day.

as of 3/18/12 :
Time invested 85 hrs.
Money invested $240

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timo4352
03-19-2012, 08:37 PM
It was a surprising day for me. I got way more done than I ever thought I would. I didn’t plan on it, but I got the centerboard slot cut. I didn’t set out to do it today it just sorta happened and everything just fell into place. You’ll see in the pics that I screwed some guides for my router to the bottom and just buzzed it out – 1/8″ at a time. The router makes such a nice clean cut. Any other way would have never given me this result. All I had to do after I took off the guides was toothpick & epoxy the screw holes. Easy. Then I tackled the gripe – the forward keel thingy. I didn’t want to scribe and fit it to the bottom so I split my piece down the middle on the table saw and then epoxied the two pieces back together again on the boat. Got the bottom curve without any fussy fitting to do. http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1336659725g Had some business to take care of, and after I got back I cleaned up the toothpicks and cut out the pieces and laminated them for the sternpost. Way more than I ever expected to get done today. Back to work for the week so things will slow down on the build a bit.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8036.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8036.jpg) router guides

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8042.jpg?w=640&h=960 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8042.jpg) slot done! what a relief

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8050.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8050.jpg) nice and straight

johnno
03-19-2012, 09:18 PM
Well done, looks sweet. Once you get the centreboard case in, you might end up doing another little trim with that router. Hope the week goes quickly for you ;)

timo4352
03-23-2012, 09:22 PM
This guy stopped by my shop the other day to check on the boat progress. Said something about – - “it’s hard to build an ugly wooden boat…” but coming from him I’m not sure what to think. I’m pretty sure I got his approval.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/toad.jpg?w=640&h=524 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/toad.jpg) handsome prince?

I got some more work done on the skeg this week. It’s fitting pretty good now. I plan on waiting to permanently install the skeg and gripe until after the centerboard case goes in. You see when I cut the slot, I made it so the posts will go all the way through the bottom. Then the skeg and gripe overlap the ends of the post. Trimming the posts flush to the bottom will be very easy this way and the end grain on the posts will be covered by the skeg and gripe. I’m just about to that point now and will probably be making up the case this weekend.
Heck I might even flip her over! I think I’m ready.
We’ll see what Mr. Toad thinks….
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8086.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8086.jpg) gluing it up

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8085.jpg?w=506&h=358 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8085.jpg) Skeg is really only 9.5" deep
looks like more because of the camera angle. top of post gets trimmed down later


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johnno
03-23-2012, 09:35 PM
Very nice again Tim, going great guns!

timo4352
03-24-2012, 08:20 PM
Flipping Day!
What a great feeling to get her flipped over today!
I’ve gotta thank my brother Bob, and my neighbors Mike and Ben for helping me. Of course we didn’t weigh her, we’re guessing less than 100 pounds right now. Mike said he felt like only 20 pounds – or maybe he wasn’t trying too hard… http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?m=1336659725g
She looks great right side up. The lines look better than I could have imagined – really. The pics look very cluttered with all the molds and bracing still in there. I’ll need to get her leveled and secured and braced before the molds come out. There’s no stopping me now! Got a fresh head of steam for the interior fitting. Centerboard trunk first, I think. Then thwarts and the rest. I’m just a tad excited – I think I peed a little http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1336659725g
Mr Toad was nowhere to be found today. I’m sure he’d approve.
Tim
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8087.jpg?w=640&h=427 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8087.jpg) That sheer!

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8089.jpg?w=479&h=363 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8089.jpg) The boy was shocked! it's a boat!

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8103.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8103.jpg) sexy rear

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8092.jpg?w=640&h=481 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8092.jpg) pretty lines


-- Sorry if it's pics overload --

johnno
03-24-2012, 08:30 PM
Brilliant Tim, she does look terrific! I'm not surprised you're excited mate!

timo4352
03-24-2012, 08:33 PM
Thanks John,
Did you get your helpers for your re-flip?

johnno
03-24-2012, 08:38 PM
Yep, we're lining up for next Wednesday I think. I'll do a bit of work on rudders and tillers in the meantime, and final prep inside the lower part of the centreboard case. I still keep smiling every time I see 'warranty and installation instructions' on your bow...it should stay I think!!!! :d

timo4352
03-24-2012, 08:45 PM
Yeah, my brother got a kick out of it too.
Sorry to disappoint you two, but that will get epoxied and painted over. You'll have these pics though - if you need a smile BY:D

Oyster
03-24-2012, 09:10 PM
very nice timo,
Looks like the lad is ready to yard on a sail sheet. Nothing finer than having your house apes out on the water with you.
royce

Eddiebou
03-25-2012, 07:25 AM
Lookin' good. Now the real work begins!

timo4352
03-25-2012, 01:38 PM
Oh sh*t -- there's more??? :d

timo4352
03-25-2012, 08:56 PM
Spent quite a bit of time today getting the boat leveled and secured in the upright position. Took some thinking but I came up with an easy solution – I cut 3 little blocks all the same height, and screwed them to my molds on the waterline marks. Then I could lay my level across them and level the boat fore and aft easily, of course athwartship was no problem. Once all was right on, I cut my blocking and secured all that – she shouldn’t be moving around on me now.
I then cut and glued up my centerboard trunk posts – they’ll be ready for tomorrow. And made a brace for amidship and got rid of the center mold. The brace held perfect and she didn’t move at all. Gotta do that twice more for the other molds. I had to butcher the mold to get it out, but I told my self – I set out to build a boat, not a set of molds – screw the molds – save the boat.
You’ll see on the front page of the blog – I set myself a completion date – July 4th 2012. I actually think she’ll get wet and be rowable before that. By the 4th of July I want her complete – sailing.
I think it’s doable.
Tim
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8107.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8107.jpg) leveling

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8117.jpg?w=640&h=394 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8117.jpg) blocking

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8118.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8118.jpg) center mold gone

Oyster
03-25-2012, 09:26 PM
Oh sh*t -- there's more??? :d

Just like beer or potato chips
Royce

hokiefan
03-25-2012, 10:26 PM
Looks great. Keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Bobby

PaulT
03-26-2012, 08:54 AM
Timo:

Great thread.. You're making great (and fast) progress. Very nice boat.

Thanks:
PaulT

timo4352
03-26-2012, 03:08 PM
Thanks guys.
I'm glad you're enjoying it.Y:o
Tim

timo4352
04-01-2012, 08:06 PM
Not much work got done on the fitting out this week. Alot of head scratching did take place however – so I have been doing something.
I’ve discovered the hard way, I guess, the case for buying plans. Making a boat shaped item from a table of offsets and a few pictures is OK. But, once I got her flipped right side up, things kinda stalled out for me. What should I do first? How should I do it? This will have to be done before I can do that – and what about this? and that? — and on and on… I’m gonna get it one way or another, but a clear plan of what to do and how, sure would come in handy about now. On the other hand I do like kinda “building on the fly” – just seeing what develops as I go along.
I did finally start by making a deck crown template. That allows me to bevel the inwales to the right angle. And I’ll be using it to trace out the deck beams, of course. So I got out some quarter knees and a rear deck beam while using my template as a guide. The small rear deck was a “building on the fly” decision, — and I like it – so it can’t be all bad working this way. So some work accomplished but alot of head scratching too – I think I’m on a roll now – we’ll see where it takes me.
Tim
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8126.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8126.jpg) quarter knee and rear deck beam

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8131.jpg?w=640&h=487 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8131.jpg) deck crown template

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8132.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8132.jpg) little progress

timo4352
04-07-2012, 11:22 PM
I have been making some fairly good progress on the boat this week. Got out the false stem. I’m happy with the result there. Next, I made the breasthook – Lots of times on and off the boat getting the fit right. Drilling the forward mast hole was challenging, tricky to get the angle right, but it came out OK. Then I went to work on the main mast partner. I made a beam marking jig from two plywood strips and two wooden blocks the same thickness as the deck beam. Card stock butted up against the inwale and taped in place gives me the proper angle for a perfect fit, front and back. You can see in the pic that the cards need to be on the inside of the jig, as on the right side. Slide the beam up inside the jig and trace the outside edges of the cards and you have a perfectly marked beam. It’s a trick I learned and carried over from my kayak building. The main mast partner notches into the beams. Everything will get epoxied in a little later – after I’m sure it’s all fitting together just the way I want it. Lots of breath holding, tense moments making up these pieces and I’m kinda glad to have this hurdle behind me now. You can see I had to rig up some pretty hokey setup to drill the mast parnter hole at the correct angle – I don’t always have the right tool but somehow have to figure out a way to make it work. Maybe someday I’ll have all the right tools. Maybe. Someday.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8137.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8137.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8134.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8134.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8136.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8136.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8140.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8140.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8142.jpg?w=640&h=470 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8142.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8147.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8147.jpg)

timo4352
04-07-2012, 11:26 PM
One more - mocked up masts
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8146.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8146.jpg)

johnno
04-08-2012, 12:07 AM
Some very nice thinking through a few problems there Tim..very impressed. I know the feeling of not having the ideal tool for the job, and having to think your way around it. You're going great guns still!

Oyster
04-08-2012, 12:33 AM
great headway timo,
if you don't mind, i have a little concern that your math skills might suffer if you continue to burn up your flash cards as templates.
royce

timo4352
04-08-2012, 07:38 AM
Thanks guys,
My test piece of the Sureply after nearly a month in the dishwasher - no signs of delamination.
I'm convinced my boat will last a while. Probably longer than me. :eek:
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8148.jpg?w=640&h=421

timo4352
04-09-2012, 08:42 PM
I got started on the centerboard trunk today. I had the posts made up already. So I cut two pieces of the Sureply roughly oversize. You can see the little marking gauge I made up and used. Marked one side and clamped both together to plane them down to the line. It worked perfect for me – I can’t imagine getting any better fit. I quit for the day after test fitting the trunk to see how it looked. My plan it to trace the plywood onto my trunk logs once I get them made up. Don’t see how it shouldn’t give me a perfect fit – we’ll see when I get there. This was another one of those jobs I worried about beforehand, but once I did it, it was almost too easy. I like when things work out that way. http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1336659725g
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8151.jpg?w=640&h=457 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8151.jpg) trunk marking gauge

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8156.jpg?w=640&h=457 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8156.jpg) start of the centerboard trunk

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8157.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8157.jpg)

timo4352
04-14-2012, 04:54 PM
I've spent all week (couple hours a day) working on the trunk logs. Made each of them from two pieces and epoxied them together. I found it was fairly easy to do this way - just time consuming. Getting the rocker curve cut otherwise, (with a chisel maybe?) seem too difficult. They're gluing up now so no pics yet. Once this glue dries I'll put a layer of glass on the insides. Also I'm thinking of West's graphite powder mixed in for the final coat. Graphite on the centerboard too, I think. Probably the bottom of the hull too. Unless somebody talks me out of it for some reason. I like the idea, for now. Pics when I've got something interesting to show.
Total 150 hours and $290.

johnno
04-14-2012, 06:36 PM
Graphite powder on the bottom? Sounds like you want this thing to go fast! Hope you're reading NACA and the flat bottomed boys threads...if you stick a QANTAS wing on the bottom you can gain .1 of a knot and 2 degress of pointing ;)

timo4352
04-15-2012, 08:44 PM
I wouldn't mind her being a little fast...BY:D (crossed fingers)
Lots more hours on the centerboard trunk today. My idea was to run the stringer down the middle of the height of the trunk. (if that makes sense)
I drilled the 2" holes first, then split the thing down the middle. The aft ends hang over to support the middle of the thwart there. Another two piece thwart (half each side of the trunk) goes up front where the stringer is solid. Those seats will be pretty narrow, but usable,I think. The series of holes will give me places to tie stuff in. I've got the most of it "squared in" today - I'll be rounding over lots of edges next. It all needs to come back out, get rounded, epoxy on the stringers and such, and then reinstalled with epoxy in the hull for good. That will wait until I get the frames and thwarts fitted. I'd have to agree with anyone who says the trunk is a very involved part of the boat. Lots and lots of time and fussy fitting just to get to this point. I'ts all fun though... The hole at the aft top end of the trunk is for that part of the centerboard to stick up through - sticks up like 10 inches...
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5072/7082220853_d2ff018e07_z.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5193/7082221629_77449ecfdc_z.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7195/6936147362_a2e3e71dab_z.jpg

I took a few minutes to play with the laser level and everything still looks OK Y>

wely
04-16-2012, 09:23 AM
Man you are moving along. Keep up the good work and keep the pics flowing.

Sent from my Dell Streak 7 using Tapatalk 2

timo4352
04-22-2012, 06:08 PM
Made some more progress this week inside the boat, once I finally figured out what I wanted to do. I put two frames on each end of the center thwart. The thwart was notched to fit between them, and another notch locates the centerboard trunk. There was some tricky marking & cutting to make it all fit right, but it came out pretty good. Very solid – and I got to remove the temporary brace there. Then I got a start on the sternsheets. Again, I spent alot of time figuring out how I wanted to do things there also. I made sure to check all my measurements against my body – meaning mostly that the seats are at a comfortable height and the space between the center thwart and the sternsheets is such that I can brace my feet on the sternsheets when I’m rowing. I’ve been trying to think of all the variables like this so I end up with a comfortable and usable vessel when I’m done. All this extra thinking stuff out takes alot of extra time, but it’s worth it. A split thwart will go at the forward end of the centerboard case. That will come next after I finish the sternsheets. The sheets will get trimmed up nice after while. Right now there just kinda rough cut oversize. I’m planning on a “U” shape cutout for them and some rounded edges there. More thinking it out to come.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8186.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8186.jpg) elementary boatbuilding

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8188.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8188.jpg) what's this disaster?



http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8190.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8190.jpg)

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8191.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8191.jpg) roughing out the sternsheets

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8189.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8189.jpg)

johnno
04-22-2012, 06:50 PM
I like the way you're thinking this out Tim, and the results seem to be paying off.

Are you putting floorboards in? I've had to design my seats (not really thwarts in my case) to be removeable so that I can take the floors out in one piece.

timo4352
04-22-2012, 08:05 PM
Thanks, John. I've been going back and forth about floorboards. My bottom is only 1/4" ply. At first I was thinking I would need to fit floors and floorboards. But then I thought lots more work, and weight, plus I would not be able to bail her out completely if I should get too much water inside or capsize. So now I'm leaning towards fiberglassing the inside of the bottom as well as the outside. I think this should stiffen it up enough and then my bailing scoop can get right to the bottom. Easier to keep clean too. I'm open to opinions on this idea for sure - anybody tried it? How'd it work out for ya?
Tim

johnno
04-22-2012, 08:18 PM
I've bought a little hand operated bilge pump, but a good quality one. I'll have some hose on both sides of the centreboard case, joined, and then fed into the pump. I will see how it goes. It will either exit via a hose over the side, or perhaps into the upper side of the centreboard case with a permanent hose fitting.

Another option is a couple of self-draining venturi type bailers, but I don't want two holes in my hull.

Of course, a bucket will be needed for any manoeuvres I make 90 degrees to the horizontal.

The little fisherman's skiff I borrow from a mate just has the bottom, and it's not even fibreglassed. Paint is basically waterproof, so I'm not sure what the fibreglassing would achieve. You could just coat it with a thin epoxy before painting, like I did.

Daniel Noyes
04-22-2012, 08:42 PM
excelent set of photos, looks like a fun boat, thanks.
It's surprising how similar this sharpie hull is to the Windmill sailing dinghy design from the 1960's-70's... or mabey it's the other way around!

Breakaway
04-22-2012, 08:50 PM
My two cents: Launch her and use her first and then you'll know if you need/want the extra stiffness, weight and work.

Kevin

Oyster
04-22-2012, 09:00 PM
good progress timo
royce

timo4352
04-28-2012, 07:17 PM
I had a kinda slow week on the boat but still managed a little progress. Got the sternsheets finished. I just did a simple fan pattern. I’m pleased with the results. What do you think? I’ve got one half of the forward half-thwarts done. Probably get the other half tomorrow. The centerboard trunk will really be rock solid when it’s all together. Things are coming together – little bits at a time.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8194.jpg?w=640&h=482 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8194.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8197.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8197.jpg) forward half-thwart

Breakaway
04-28-2012, 11:21 PM
Looks great!

Kevin

timo4352
04-29-2012, 08:52 PM
Thanks, Kevin

Well, I got the front split /thwart done today. And as I suspected the centerboard trunk is now soild as a rock. I think I’d have to whack it with a sledgehammer to get it to move any – and no – I’m not gonna try it just to see. http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1129645325g I thought I’d be done for the day, but I said to myself “just one more thing”. So I got out the cap for the trunk – rounded the edges and screwed it down. That’s one less thing I’ll need to do later and it didn’t take but maybe one extra hour. Speaking of time, I’d guess I’m roughly 175 hours into my little project here. Still only spent about $290. Next week I’ll be working on the mast steps and the framing for the washboards. And all this interior work still need to come back out and get epoxied back in.
Now, somebody’s gonna have to clean up this mess…. No takers?
I guess that’ll be me then http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif?m=1129645325g
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8202.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8202.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8201.jpg?w=640&h=960 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8201.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8204.jpg?w=482&h=685

kharder
04-29-2012, 09:51 PM
Lookin good! You'll be sailing in no time.

timo4352
05-06-2012, 08:07 PM
This week I only managed a few hours during the week. Got more done on the weekend though. I decided to put the mooring bitt in. wasn’t sure I wanted it at first, but now I like the look. And if I use a plank bowsprit with a balanced jib at some point, I’ll be glad I have the bitt. It’s just a dummy bitt in there now – it’ll get a better piece of wood. Got a couple knees up front put in and played around with the front deck to see how it will look. And got the centerboard glued up, cut out and started shaping it to a “somewhat foil” shape. We”ll have to wait and see if it’s actually a foil or not when I’m done. I did plot the foil curve and cut out a template NACA 0009 and cut it in half to use at either end. My board is wider. Once the foil is cut then both sides will get sheated with 1/4″ ply as described in Parkers book. It’ll be a fun project. In the one pic you can see the board in the down position in the boat. It hangs down 19 1/2″ and there is still quite a bit of board in the trunk at that point so it should be pretty solid, I hope.
Here’s a few pics for this week…

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8214.jpg?w=640&h=475 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8214.jpg) marking the cb


http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8219.jpg?w=640&h=464 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8219.jpg) cb down

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8220.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8220.jpg) shaping the foil

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8213.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8213.jpg)

timo4352
05-12-2012, 10:06 PM
Hi All
Made some progress on my centerboard. Got the lead poured in a seperate mold and epoxied it into the board.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8222.jpg?w=640&h=459 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8222.jpg) five pound pan

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8223.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8223.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8221.jpg?w=640&h=437 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8221.jpg)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8224.jpg?w=640&h=469 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/imgp8224.jpg)

johnno
05-12-2012, 10:21 PM
I feel as though there's a bit of a link across the pond with these two builds..really enjoying watching things that are still fresh in my memory being played out on another (related) design, and always with slightly different ways of doing things. Look forward to the next shots in the sequence. What's the original piece of lead and how heavy?

By the way, loved the read on the cat ketch rig...fantastic! Thanks for pointing me to it.

timo4352
05-12-2012, 11:31 PM
5# ingot. used two of them -- That article, to me, really makes the rig sound irresistable. Someday I'll have to have
one.
http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents/gfx/large/ingot2l.png?ver=13249834

UCanoe_2
05-13-2012, 06:58 AM
Tim, in the photo in #86 that shows the centerboard down, there is a turnbuckle attached to the sawhorse at lower left with a cable leading out of the picture. I'm guessing it's some kind of adjustment for keeping your strongback straight? Can you tell us more about this piece of engineering?

timo4352
05-13-2012, 08:20 AM
Tim, in the photo in #86 that shows the centerboard down, there is a turnbuckle attached to the sawhorse at lower left with a cable leading out of the picture. I'm guessing it's some kind of adjustment for keeping your strongback straight? Can you tell us more about this piece of engineering?

The cable is my staight and level center line. It runs down the center of the length of the strongback. Everything on the boat, during setup, was measured or referenced from that line. It kinda shows in this pic - look for it down the center of the strongback. I had to move it over to get the board to go down. The first I'd touched it since I started. The turnbuckles keep it taught and so centered.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6787749018_e45a65281f_z.jpg

Eddiebou
05-13-2012, 08:41 AM
What are the semi circular cut-outs in the strip on the cb case for?

timo4352
05-13-2012, 09:02 AM
What are the semi circular cut-outs in the strip on the cb case for?
There just places where I can tie stuff in so it doesn't get lost overboard or flop around inside.

timo4352
05-13-2012, 08:40 PM
I took the clamps off the centerboard today and started trimming and cleaning it up. I was suprised how heavy it is , so I weighed it with the bathromm scale. 28 pounds roughly. My question is: with ten pounds of lead inserted in there I've got roughly 18 pounds of wood plywood and epoxy. Destined to get a little heavier after the glass goes on. Do you think it will want to float or sink at this ratio of wood to lead weight. Just to lift it it seems it would drop like a rock - but of course wood floats...
What do you think? Will the board drop and stay down? Guess I could float it in the pool or something to see :confused:

timo4352
05-16-2012, 11:14 AM
Two bitt --- :confused:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/7210194488_c3b056f91d_z.jpg

Breakaway
05-16-2012, 12:05 PM
I'd go with one crosspiece, the lower one, if that is what you are asking. I'd also round or taper the front and back faces the way you did the sides ( maybe you did, I cant tell from the image).

Nice progress, thoroughly enjoying watching the process. Thanks for all the posts

Oyster
05-16-2012, 12:10 PM
I took the clamps off the centerboard today and started trimming and cleaning it up. I was suprised how heavy it is , so I weighed it with the bathromm scale. 28 pounds roughly. My question is: with ten pounds of lead inserted in there I've got roughly 18 pounds of wood plywood and epoxy. Destined to get a little heavier after the glass goes on. Do you think it will want to float or sink at this ratio of wood to lead weight. Just to lift it it seems it would drop like a rock - but of course wood floats...
What do you think? Will the board drop and stay down? Guess I could float it in the pool or something to see :confused:

timo,
there are 231 cubic inches in a gallon and a gallon of water weighs 8.33 lbs. so your centerboard at 28 lbs would need to displace over 3.36 gallons or 776.47 cubic inches to sink. here is something that i had a time getting my head around, i was launching bowling balls into the pond with a mortar and the 12 lb and less would float and the 13 lb and more would sink. it was hard to believe a bowling ball would float. so my bet is it will float but stay down in the slot
royce

Wayne Jeffers
05-16-2012, 12:33 PM
. . . so your centerboard at 28 lbs would need to displace over 3.36 gallons or 776.47 cubic inches to sink. . .

Actually, it would need to displace more water than that in order to float. Strictly speaking, part of the CB will be above water when it is fully lowered, so that part is displacing no water (and its volume would not count, but its weight would.)

Wayne

Oyster
05-16-2012, 12:52 PM
Actually, it would need to displace more water than that in order to float. Strictly speaking, part of the CB will be above water when it is fully lowered, so that part is displacing no water (and its volume would not count, but its weight would.)

Wayne
thanks wayne,
been ass backwards all my life

timo4352
05-17-2012, 08:49 AM
The two bitt comment was just a silly play on words.
I've put two crosspeices in for the possible future use of a plank bowsprit. This way if I'm not happy with the stickup jib, I can fit a balance jib in its place - and still have a usable mooring bitt. The idea is to cut a notch at the rear of the plank that'll slip around the bitt and under the lower crosspeice, and a square elongated hole forward that'll slip over the stem. The lower crosspeice on the bitt holds down the back of the bowsprit and a pin forward will be pushed through in the same way as on the bitt to hold down the front where the plank goes over the stem. If the stickup works out fine to begin with I can just cut down the bitt to have only the lower crosspeice.
Kind of a long drawn out explanation for a "what if?" - I know. Just trying to plan ahaead.

timo4352
06-02-2012, 05:04 PM
After a couple of weekends off from serious boat building I got back to some final assembly today. The centerboard trunk is now in for good. I glassed and epoxy/graphite powder coated the insides of the trunk and coated the centerboard with graphite also. I bedded the trunk with Boatlife polysulphide caulking. Hoping that allows a little give with no leaks down the road. I had read that epoxy would be to brittle and would crack and leak eventually – I don’t want that. I’ve always had good luck with Boatlife in the past, so I’m trusting it here.
I’ve still got a few more frames to make up and install, as well as the deck carlins for the washboards, and I’ve got to do my mast steps yet. I’m not real optimistic about making my July 4th deadline at this point. I surely don’t want to rush it and screw something up now, so I may want to give myself a couple extra months time. It would be nice to get her out sailing sometime this summer/fall though. http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?m=1129645325g
Pics don’t show much different, but I’ve made some progress nonetheless.
Oh yeah — I’ve got some paint colors picked out too. Hard to believe I’m ready for that yet, but I’ll have to get under and behind the thwarts and the like painted before they’re installed permanently. The thwarts will get bedded with Boatlife too. http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?m=1129645325g
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/imgp8497.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/imgp8497.jpg) graphite inside trunk

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/imgp8496.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/imgp8496.jpg) graphite coated centerboard

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/imgp8499.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/imgp8499.jpg)

johnno
06-02-2012, 07:23 PM
Great to have that centreboard step behind you Tim, well done. Did you bed the two halves of the centreboard case with Boatlife or epoxy? The latter I assume. How did you go about sealing the joint line?

timo4352
06-02-2012, 08:47 PM
Great to have that centreboard step behind you Tim, well done. Did you bed the two halves of the centreboard case with Boatlife or epoxy? The latter I assume. How did you go about sealing the joint line?

I epoxied the two halves together. And left the graphite off of the bottom two inches inside the case. When I flip it over again to glass the bottom I will glass around the bend and up inside the trunk that two inches. And I'll just hope the trunk never has to come out again.
You are really closing in on completion of your Egret. What's next? :confused:
Tim

johnw
06-02-2012, 11:47 PM
I epoxied the two halves together. And left the graphite off of the bottom two inches inside the case. When I flip it over again to glass the bottom I will glass around the bend and up inside the trunk that two inches. And I'll just hope the trunk never has to come out again.
You are really closing in on completion of your Egret. What's next? :confused:
Tim

What will you bed the logs in? I prefer something flexible.

johnno
06-02-2012, 11:58 PM
Tim, so in some ways you have a continuous glass coating on the outside, but a bedded joint on the inside. Don't think it really matters, except that I would have thought you'd also have a bedded joint exposed on the outside too so it could flex.

I don't think it matters now because even if the outer fibreglass layer did crack, you'll have still have the bedding compound right behind it.

timo4352
06-03-2012, 07:51 AM
What will you bed the logs in? I prefer something flexible.

Boatlife

johnw
06-03-2012, 03:19 PM
Tim, so in some ways you have a continuous glass coating on the outside, but a bedded joint on the inside. Don't think it really matters, except that I would have thought you'd also have a bedded joint exposed on the outside too so it could flex.

I don't think it matters now because even if the outer fibreglass layer did crack, you'll have still have the bedding compound right behind it.

I've got pretty much the same setup he's talking about, and it doesn't leak after several seasons.

donald branscom
06-03-2012, 06:02 PM
You know you will be permanently infecting that young boy with boat disease!!! LOl...lol..lol
Now he will have sailing dreams.

Robert Meyer
06-22-2012, 11:20 AM
Timo
Hurry-up with the stick-up. You know we are a very impatient lot and our craving for updates is bottomless.
No vacation till she's launched.

timo4352
06-22-2012, 06:50 PM
Yeah - work has slowed to a crawl. The weather is too nice and the kayaks and my fg Kingfisher sailboat need the excercise. :d
If I didn't have something else to sail I suppose I'd be in more of a hurry to get-r-done. All work and no play, and all that stuff, ya know.
I even gave myself an extra two months deadline on the blog.

timo4352
06-23-2012, 01:05 PM
Timo
Hurry-up with the stick-up. You know we are a very impatient lot and our craving for updates is bottomless.
No vacation till she's launched.

Thanks for the nudge...
No wind today, so no sailing.
I got in the shop this morning. I knocked out the six final frames in no time and got them epoxied in.
It's funny, for me anyhow, how some days I get nothing done or can't quite figure out what I want to work on. And then I have a day like today where it all comes together so easily. It's like some Zen boatbuilding thing or some such nonsense. BY:D
Tim (back in action)

Duncan Gibbs
06-30-2012, 07:49 AM
How the hell have I missed this thread?

Terrific build Timo, and a great companion thread to John's too! :)

timo4352
07-01-2012, 08:16 AM
Thanks Duncan
Updates are coming a little slower nowadays with the nice summer weather here, but I'll get something done, I promise!
Tim

timo4352
08-01-2012, 05:22 PM
Wow! it's been a month since I last updated my build.
I have managed to get some little progress made on the boat. Summer weather and having fun sailing, swimming and kayaking has taken over most of my boat building time though. Our summers are too short here to do anything else. The boat will get done eventually. Maybe finish over this winter? I don't know yet.
Here's a couple of picture updates just to let you know the project is still alive. Framing out the washboards is about it for this time. The mess in the boat proves I've been doing a little something anyhow. True life pictures. ;)
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/imgp8522.jpg (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/imgp8522.jpg)washboard framinghttp://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/imgp8520.jpg (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/imgp8520.jpg)

johnw
08-01-2012, 10:10 PM
Now, that's a handsome profile!

johnno
08-01-2012, 10:46 PM
That's one strong and beautiful sharpie Tim. Glad to see you back at it!

Vernon
08-01-2012, 11:53 PM
I like that last pic, that's a fine lookin little boat you got there.

donald branscom
08-02-2012, 10:21 AM
I would rather just see the photos posted on this forum and not have to see your political rant with boat photos on it.

timo4352
08-02-2012, 02:58 PM
I would rather just see the photos posted on this forum and not have to see your political rant with boat photos on it.

:confused:

timo4352
08-02-2012, 03:02 PM
Thanks for the kind replies, guys.
I'm probably over building some things here, but in the case of the washboards - when I envision myself hiked out on the side pounding through big powerboat wakes - I don't want nuthin' breakin' ;)

Vernon
08-02-2012, 04:56 PM
:confused:

I popped in this morning to read the forum for awhile and saw that post immediately after mine. I figured there must be one more in there that was later deleted, hope so anyways...

DCBrown
08-03-2012, 12:32 AM
Did I miss something Branscom? Where is the rant?
D.C.

Arizona Bay
08-03-2012, 12:46 AM
That's a fine looking boat, been wanting to see one since I read the Sharpie Book.. (10yrs ago?)
I think a 15' Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff may be the next build for me.
In the mean time, I doing a QnD 10' sailing pram and was wondering if you're still happy with the plywood?

Paul Montgomery
09-10-2012, 02:07 AM
Enjoying the build - especially since I am getting ready to do the 14' Cape Cod Oystering Sharpie (from Parker's book) soon (or so I hope). I was going to do a quick and dirty build, but I'm thinking of doing a birdsmouth mast so I'm off to a bad start in that way I guess...

timo4352
09-22-2012, 09:28 PM
I do believe that I've hit something of a milestone on my sharpie build today!
I got the last pieces of wood that needed to be made for the hull installed today!
The mast steps, transom knee(s), and oarlock pad blocking all found thier places in the boat today. My decks are cut out and waiting for interior paint to go on before I can install them. Feels good to be here :D
Pics will have to wait 'til my computer stops acting up :p

Vernon
09-22-2012, 09:50 PM
Alot of those computer problems going around. I keep getting a sever busy message only on the forum, all other sites seem to work fine. Andrew seems to be having what might be a photobucket issue. Seems all 3 of us can build a boat and none of us can post a da-gone picture reliably.

I'm gonna have to think on that some more. :D

Anyway, I look forward to the pics.

Vern

timo4352
09-22-2012, 10:15 PM
...see if this'll work...


http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/imgp8565-1-steps.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/imgp8565-1-steps.jpg) mast steps and mooring bitt

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/imgp8564-1-knees.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/imgp8564-1-knees.jpg)

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/imgp7146-1-blocking2.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/imgp7146-1-blocking2.jpg)

donald branscom
09-23-2012, 12:09 AM
You will need floor boards or the hull can get damaged from the inside.
And you do not want your feet in the water all the time.

Put in something to keep your feet off the hull.
What if someone jumps in the boat and lands on one foot full force on that 1/4 inch ply????

What if someone sits down a ice chest or bag with something sharp edged?
What if a muddy foot grinds pebbles into the hull?

If it was my boat I would want full floors in it.

davebrown
09-23-2012, 12:28 AM
I'm wondering how that skiff will row. Is it deadrise or flat bottom? I had a 13'6" skiff loosely built off of Culler's Good Little Skiff (using the booklet from the improbably named Richard Butz for the Weekend Skiff) and it was a delightful rowboat, but I did not ever get around to adding the sailing bits--centerboard, mast step, etc. So it weighed in at around maybe 110 lbs.

johnw
09-23-2012, 10:27 PM
She's looking good! So, another month to splash her?

timo4352
09-24-2012, 08:25 AM
Dave - she is flat in the front half, deadrise rear. I won't know how she rows (or floats!) 'til I get her in the water. I have high hopes though.

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8008.jpg
Thanks John. I'm not pushing for this year as it is now. I'm sure I'll want to get her wet before the masts and sails are done though. Maybe New Years Day will be a nice day!

Draketail
09-24-2012, 09:17 AM
Keep up the good work! It is indeed satisfying when you reach a milestone like end of woodworking...

johnw
09-24-2012, 01:01 PM
Dave - she is flat in the front half, deadrise rear. I won't know how she rows (or floats!) 'til I get her in the water. I have high hopes though.

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/imgp8008.jpg
Thanks John. I'm not pushing for this year as it is now. I'm sure I'll want to get her wet before the masts and sails are done though. Maybe New Years Day will be a nice day!

Well, your winters are colder than mine. Be glad you're building indoors! I just hope the weather holds until I'm done painting.

johnno
09-24-2012, 07:25 PM
Looking great Timo, I love the solidity of this build. It as though the scantlings about match the traditional sizings, even though the hull is ply. She's looking really good!

timo4352
09-25-2012, 09:28 AM
Thanks. So I did decide to put fllorboards in. I'm fitting the floors now. The front half are easy - flat bottom. I'll probably use 3/8 ply for the floorboards. I lose a little foot room but It'll be much sturdier and I wont have to worry about having a tender bottom Y:o
I didn't come this far to skimp out now.

smithb9
09-25-2012, 10:27 AM
Hi Tim, the build is looking great!

it looks like that sureply is only printed with nail spots on one side, is that true? I'm thinking about using this for my next project, and was considering finishing the interior with oil or something to keep it bright.

BrianM
09-25-2012, 12:00 PM
Thanks guys,
My test piece of the Sureply after nearly a month in the dishwasher - no signs of delamination.
I'm convinced my boat will last a while. Probably longer than me. :eek:
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/imgp8148.jpg?w=640&h=421


The best test for delamination is boiling (212F). Dishwashers for residential use typically don't add enough heat energy to the wash water to get above 140F if the water supply is "cold", and about 160F if the water supply is "Hot".

Of course, delamination is but one structural test for plywood that is relevant in the marine environment. Passing a boiling test tells you nothing about decay resistance, or strength.

Decay resistance will ultimately be its undoing. Water will get into the core eventually and the lumber used is most likely not decay resistant.

If you apply enough penetrating epoxy, you will be creating a hybrid wood/plastic panel. Encasing that with Fiberglass cloth soaked in laminating resin, and you have a Fiberglass hull with a Sureply "form/core".

Hopefully the thickness of the ply is more than whatever the designer spec'ed in Marine grade, as the Sureply isn't made for strength.

Keep the boat out of the sun when it's on the trailer and you'll maximize the life expectancy and if you can, store it upside down to keep debris and rainwater out.

smithb9
09-25-2012, 12:28 PM
The best test for delamination is boiling (212F). Dishwashers for residential use typically don't add enough heat energy to the wash water to get above 140F if the water supply is "cold", and about 160F if the water supply is "Hot".


I'd think the wet/dry cycle of the dishwasher would be more applicable/beneficial for this use than the boil test, as I imagine boating in boiling water is not very fun.

Either way, I know with myself personally, I enjoy building as much as I enjoy boating, so if I get a few seasons out of a boat that's perfectly fine, I will probably have built a new boat by that time anyway.

timo4352
09-25-2012, 01:08 PM
Yes, the nailing pattern is only on one side. I thought the same about a bright finshed interior, but the wood is not at all that pretty - light/dack patches. You might be able to hand pick sheets for the best look. Better ply (maybe Meranti?) would be much more suited to finish bright. Check out Spike - page 11 - in the pretty in plywood thread to see what could be possible in better ply - very nice. Not sure what ply he used...
Homestead Hardwoods has it for something like $40 sheet. Not local for you though.
Tim

timo4352
10-14-2012, 07:37 PM
Well, I've finished up the floors and got the floorboards cut out too. Tested my pattern making skills on the floorboards - it all came out good. I used 3/8" MDO for the floorboards. The floor frames all need to come back out to be epoxied back in for good. That'll be one more little marathon glueing session. And - I've got to figger out some quick-turn latches or sometihn' to hold 'em down with - open to suggestions there... ;)

Anybody have a good suggestion for anti-slip coating for the floorboards :confused:

I saw something about sprinkling the wet paint with salt? But haven't researched that too much yet.
Pics soon. Interior paint next? Maybe :)

chuckp
10-14-2012, 08:03 PM
Great looking build!

I've used fine sand in the past and recently used an additive from Lowes for the non-skid.

johnw
10-14-2012, 08:19 PM
Well, I've finished up the floors and got the floorboards cut out too. Tested my pattern making skills on the floorboards - it all came out good. I used 3/8" MDO for the floorboards. The floor frames all need to come back out to be epoxied back in for good. That'll be one more little marathon glueing session. And - I've got to figger out some quick-turn latches or sometihn' to hold 'em down with - open to suggestions there... ;)

Anybody have a good suggestion for anti-slip coating for the floorboards :confused:

I saw something about sprinkling the wet paint with salt? But haven't researched that too much yet.
Pics soon. Interior paint next? Maybe :)

On Meerkat and Black Swan, I just used primer, which provides better footing than a gloss or semi-gloss paint. The idea with the salt, I believe, is that you sprinkle it on, then when the paint is dry, you wash it off, leaving a pitted surface with no sharp substance to abrade your skin, just paint, which has more give. As a kid, I used to sail on a sailboard that had iron filings for anti-skid, and always came back bleeding.

Vernon
10-14-2012, 09:05 PM
I'm stealing James M's idea on the floorboard latches. There's a few shots over on the 'Snooty Tern' thread in DP

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?110244-James-McMullen-s-Rowan-an-Oughtred-Snooty-Tern

post 354

timo4352
10-14-2012, 10:04 PM
I'm stealing James M's idea on the floorboard latches. There's a few shots over on the 'Snooty Tern' thread in DP

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?110244-James-McMullen-s-Rowan-an-Oughtred-Snooty-Tern

post 354

Thanks Vernon, and for the post # too.
I'd seen them before but not so much detail about them. I made my floorboards out of 3/8" ply so cutting the recess probably wouldn't work. I think I can keep the turn latches under the thwarts and out of the way though. Don't need no stubbed toes.
I was thinking of getting some garboard drains with the tee handle, so I wouldn't have to take up the floorboard to open them - until I saw that they cost like 75 bucks each! ouch! I'll be doing something else there.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVGqbZoM8wx1eXadytVRdaADhD6ZQEl Amdxwa82IinEESA0jNVDgVnqU7D

smithb9
10-15-2012, 08:02 AM
looking forward to seeing more pictures!

I decided to try out the sureply on my most recent build, seems to work pretty good. A little splintery on the edges and perhaps a bit brittle, but overall it seems to be pretty well workable, and I haven't found any voids at all. Here's where I'm currently at: http://i.imgur.com/828bH.jpg

capefox
10-15-2012, 09:58 AM
Keep on going! I want to see the finished project with you beaming as you sail it around!

timo4352
10-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Well, I talked myself into installing floorboards. I'm glad I went ahead with it. I wont have to worry about a quarter inch plywood bottom being to weak to step on. I lost a little depth for footroom, but only an inch or so. I used 3/8" MDO plywood for the floorboards. Now I'll just have to devise a good way to secure them without having to unscrew them each time I want to take them out for cleaning and such.
Maybe I'm really done with the woodworking this time :)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8113090267_4c8bb744bd_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8113105892_1c39cd6bbd_z.jpg

davebrown
10-23-2012, 07:02 AM
Hello Tim: You may have answered this question earlier on, but I am curious as to whether you used ply or solid wood for your hanging knees. I will be confronted with the same question shortly.

timo4352
10-23-2012, 12:01 PM
I used solid wood. Full 1' thick doug fir because that's what I have. So mostly for monetary reasons, but I feel better screwing into soild wood rather than the edge of plywood. I'm sure ply would be fine though, if you've got real good ply...
Tim

timo4352
11-04-2012, 09:05 PM
Here’s what I came up with for securing my floorboards – just some simple turn latches – the ones one the bottom secure both front and rear halves of the boards at the same time. They are centered under the thwart so I shouldn’t stub my toes on them . A couple more latches on the inside of the frames hold the outer edges down. Simple – no screws to remove – the boards can be out in a matter of seconds for whatever I need to do under there. This will help me maintain this boat much better – I know if I had to unscrew the boards every time that I just wouldn’t do it at times because it was too much of a hassle.

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/imgp8582-1.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/imgp8582-1.jpg)http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/imgp8583-1.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/imgp8583-1.jpg)http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/imgp8580-1.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/imgp8580-1.jpg)

johnw
11-04-2012, 09:24 PM
That looks pretty spiffy.

Breakaway
11-04-2012, 09:40 PM
I was thinking of getting some garboard drains with the tee handle, so I wouldn't have to take up the floorboard to open them - until I saw that they cost like 75 bucks each! ouch! I'll be doing something else there.

Timo Pm me about this. I have one I'll be glad to mail you--it was given to me and has been collecting dust for 12 or 15 years.

Kevin

donald branscom
11-05-2012, 12:45 AM
Yes, the nailing pattern is only on one side. I thought the same about a bright finshed interior, but the wood is not at all that pretty - light/dack patches. You might be able to hand pick sheets for the best look. Better ply (maybe Meranti?) would be much more suited to finish bright. Check out Spike - page 11 - in the pretty in plywood thread to see what could be possible in better ply - very nice. Not sure what ply he used...
Homestead Hardwoods has it for something like $40 sheet. Not local for you though.
Tim

Do not use SALT!

I did that one time and it was a big mess. The salt attracted water. Need I say more?

timo4352
12-29-2012, 10:41 PM
Well, the work continues slowly. I got my fiberglass cloth. Got the boat flipped over - bottoms up now again. I started rounding over all the sharp edges and will soon be ready to start with the epoxy and glass fabric. I'll post pics when I've got something to show. I see lots of sanding in my near future - yuck :p
Wish me luck...
Tim

JimD
12-30-2012, 12:17 PM
Looks like you've already made your own luck, Tim. Nice woodworking.

Breakaway
12-30-2012, 01:21 PM
When I have sanding to do, I play some Pink Floyd on the workbench radio, and just embrace it.

Kevin

timo4352
01-13-2013, 11:36 AM
It’s been a while since I’ve had any real progress on the boat. The other day I got the skeg and gripe installed. Used some stainless lagbolts to bolt the skeg in – with that and the epoxy it should be plenty strong. I finally felt the time was right to tackle the fiberglass cloth. I’m doing this in stages – bottom first – then the topsides. I taped and used the purple tablecloth plastic to keep things neater. Less cleanup between stages.Now the bottom looks good and I’m waiting for it to get hard enough to remove the tape and plastic. Then I can lay the topsides glass and epoxy it. I’m trying to get it all done while the epoxy is a little green to avoid the amine blush issue and washing between coats. Not getting much sleep because of that. http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif?m=1129645325g
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/glass-botm.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/glass-botm.jpg) http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/glassbottom.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/glassbottom.jpg) http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/wetout.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/wetout.jpg)

Eddiebou
01-13-2013, 12:08 PM
Lookin' good, timo. I'm glad your back at it. I'm looking forward to your launching this boat. Do you have your sails yet? Or are you gonna build them, too? I contacted my sailmaker in Jan. but didn't get the sails until May....just sayin'

timo4352
01-13-2013, 08:51 PM
Thanks Eddie
No sails yet - haven't decided what to do yet. I might have Sailrite make me up a kit to save some money. Or maybe Duckworks or Dabbler - just don't know yet. If money were no object I'd have them by now, but...
Still gotta build the masts and rudder amongst other things. I'll get her out rowing if nothing else - sometime soon.
I just got in from glassing the topsides so that's all done Y>

timo4352
01-13-2013, 10:04 PM
Got the topsides glassed today. I’m glad to have this part of the build behind me now. http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1129645325g
And for those who have asked --- here's proof that this plywood is not good for a bright finish.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/glastopsd.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/glastopsd.jpg) http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/wetouttrans.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/wetouttrans.jpg)

FFishing
01-14-2013, 10:30 AM
nice project

timo4352
01-27-2013, 06:35 PM
With 3 coats of neat epoxy and #407 West filler, I’ve been working on fairing in the glass overlaps. I’m sanding by hand mostly with my favorite blue block with the holes in it. Using 60 grit for now, and I’m thinking a couple coats of a high build primer will get it ready for finish sanding. I’m closing in on painting time and decided that I’ll go with Kirby’s paint. Kirby's has the colors that I like and it’s a real oil based paint. Petit or Interlux don't have the colors that I like. In my area just about everything that is available is water based and I’m not happy with that. I was looking at Kilz Complete primer at HD today. This one is oil based and for interior and exterior use. Twenty bucks a gallon – not too bad. I’ve got to research the stuff a bit before I commit to use it however. Anyone tried it? How’d it work for you? I’m not sure how thick this stuff is either (?)
Fairing pics are prob kinda boring, but it is part of the building process, so I’ll share a few.
http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/unfairfront.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/unfairfront.jpg) before sanding

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/fairtransom.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/fairtransom.jpg) 60 grit finish

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/fairside.jpg?w=463&h=310 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/fairside.jpg) 407 at glass overlaps

http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/tools.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://stickupsharpie.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/tools.jpg) useful tools

johnno
01-27-2013, 07:10 PM
Great Timo! Don't make her too smooth or she might end up looking like fg. ;) Can't wait to see that paint go on, but maybe I'll be a little sad to see those tiny 'x's finally disappear from these pages.

Breakaway
01-27-2013, 07:15 PM
Looking good!

I used Kirby's on a plywood boat. Primed with a couple of thin coats of the same. I found it rather thick, and needed to tweak it with some turps, penetrol to get to to flow out nice. (*I'm a hack painter so YMMV) Once I figured out the paint, it went on good, and has stayed looking good for two years now.

Kevin

Oyster
01-27-2013, 07:46 PM
Coming along nicely.
good work timo

timo4352
01-27-2013, 08:35 PM
Thanks for the kind comments guys.

Kevin - what colors did you use on your boat? Got any pics to share?

I'm going with Green/Gray for the outside and Putty inside, with Reddish on the seats and trim.
The rubrail will be Reddish as well.
I'd really like to see the color - Reddish - on someones boat if they have a pic or two to share. The color looks like it maybe more 'pinkish' than 'reddish' sometimes, to me.
Thanks
Tim

Vernon
01-27-2013, 09:10 PM
Coming along real nice Tim, think you'll be sailing sometime in the coming summer?
I won't be doing any finish work for a few months except what can be done inside, so the chances are looking slimmer for me.
Maybe I'll get some rowing in....

I got some oil based porch paint at the local Ace last year that worked real well for my canoe. I think it was the Royal brand. I'd much rather work with an oil over the latex any day. Hope they don't stop carrying that or the spar varnish to satisfy the regs.

Breakaway
01-27-2013, 09:40 PM
Hey Tim


I used Hatteras Off White for the hull and "Red Tint" ( pink) for the interior. Check the last page or so of the thread for some pics:

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?98645-New-Build&highlight=

Hope this helps.

ETA: More pics on my blog http://www.boatsandboatinggear.blogspot.com/

Michael Wick
01-28-2013, 12:16 PM
My sailing buddy, Phil Maynard, had Sailrite make him a sail, and he is very happy with it. I've built from two of their kits and made good sails, but I have been anxious that my stitching made it so that they weren't good enough for racing ?

timo4352
01-28-2013, 06:34 PM
Thanks Kevin.
Vernon - I'll probably be rowing too, a long time before I'm ready for sailing. I've got to build my rudder, spars, and get my sails figgered out first.
Michael - I have thought about Sailrite making me a couple kits. I've got to finish a proper sail plan and upload it to Sailrite first - then see if they can accomodate me. Too bad there's no Stick-Up rig sail kit ready to go :p
That's one of the joys of choosing an oddball boat, I guess.
Tim

Geoff Kendrick
01-28-2013, 10:54 PM
Very nice. Thank you for taking the time to post step by step. Just started a Cedar Keys 25 by Reuel Parker and find Threads like yours most helpful.

Pfdill
02-05-2013, 06:37 PM
Hey Timo,
thanks for your posts - I've learned a lot from watching and applied ideas to my own Penobscot 14 build.
I am looking forward to trying out your choice of plywood on a couple of canoe-like play boats, maybe as soon as this summer - can't beat the cost, and if my canoes hold up through two or three seasons of being beat around by my nephews I will be satisfied.
I've been struggling to choose paint for my p14. After two years of work, I want a color I really like. I ordered some linseed paint from solventfreepaint.com - they sell little samples. Not cheap, but there's nothing like actually messing about with the stuff as you make decisions. I tried a couple of colors and white to mix up different values of the same paint. They also distribute Le Tonkinois varnish, which is really nice stuff to use. Also, a good source of brushes. I decided against it, simply because I think that paint will be best when not applied over epoxy, though I have no experience to prove it wouldn't hold up.
Finally, the folks at Kirby are very helpful. They will custom mix paint to your paint chip, and don't charge too much for the service. Go to your local hardware, pick the color chip you really like, and ship it off to New Bedford MA after you talk to them.
I finally settled on lightening up Kirby green gray - I fussed around with mixing it with a little of their white until I got the proportions right. I'll post photos when the work is actually finished! Too cold to paint in my garage right now....
Search the forum for the Gartside Yawl thread. Kirby #1 on a spectacular yacht, enough to make you quit your day job and start a dot.com.
cheers!

timo4352
02-05-2013, 08:05 PM
Pfdill
It seems kind of funny/strange to hear someone say they are learning by watching my progress - as I'm just learning myself as I go along. We're in good company then, I guess. I've looked at the linseed paint myself too. I backed off on the price and couldn't really find where anyone has really used it on a boat. Too costly to experiment with IMO. Good choice on the green/grayY> You will post some pics, won'tcha?

Geoff
Thanks -- It is my hope that I could help someone in some way by posting my build. Glad you found it useful.
You must post pics of your Cedar Keys Sharpie - we gotta see that one!
Tim

Vernon
02-05-2013, 09:17 PM
Thanks Kevin.
Vernon - I'll probably be rowing too, a long time before I'm ready for sailing. I've got to build my rudder, spars, and get my sails figgered out first.
Michael - I have thought about Sailrite making me a couple kits. I've got to finish a proper sail plan and upload it to Sailrite first - then see if they can accomodate me. Too bad there's no Stick-Up rig sail kit ready to go :p
That's one of the joys of choosing an oddball boat, I guess.
Tim

Figgerin sails, that's going to be my downfail, I'll have to look at some pictures when the time comes. I'll likely finish as much as I can of mine without sails, rudder, and spars. I'll get on to finish work first if it gets warm enough so I can a least get her wet. Time will tell, if I get everything else done, it'd be nice to continue on with the sailing bits this winter.

Vernon
02-05-2013, 09:22 PM
Pfdill
It seems kind of funny/strange to hear someone say they are learning by watching my progress - as I'm just learning myself as I go along. We're in good company then, I guess.
Tim


:) I keep saying that too. It seems there's a bunch of us learning from each other as we figure out some of it for ourselves. We must be learning OK though, most of the time the 'others' don't yell at us. :D

timo4352
02-09-2013, 12:43 PM
I got my sail plan uploaded to Sailrite. Take a look and let me know what you think. http://www.sailritesails.com/ShowAd.aspx?id=10686
I think it will show up for you - if not let me know - I may have to switch it to public from private access. Don't know for sure - haven't tried this yet...
I've got about 67.5 sqft. of sail total - should be reasonable for a 13 foot skiff - no?
Thanks
Tim

timo4352
02-09-2013, 04:00 PM
...And ... my major sanding of the hull is done! Thank goodness for that. It wasn't that bad, but really not too fun either.
Time for some primer, I guess. I need a high build primer - I have even thought about thickening a primer with talc. OK or bad idea? I thought a thin primer like Kilz could be made to be high build primer this way.
Comments on that crazy idea:confused:
Tim

johnw
02-09-2013, 04:35 PM
I got my sail plan uploaded to Sailrite. Take a look and let me know what you think. http://www.sailritesails.com/ShowAd.aspx?id=10686
I think it will show up for you - if not let me know - I may have to switch it to public from private access. Don't know for sure - haven't tried this yet...
I've got about 67.5 sqft. of sail total - should be reasonable for a 13 foot skiff - no?
Thanks
Tim

Sounds okay to me. What's the beam, about 4'?

timo4352
02-09-2013, 05:30 PM
Sounds okay to me. What's the beam, about 4'?

A little over 50"

johnw
02-09-2013, 05:39 PM
A bit less beam and less sail than a Penguin. Sounds right.

timo4352
02-10-2013, 05:22 PM
I’ve hit another milestone today – Paint!
Well, primer actually, but a big deal for me nonetheless.
I’m using this Zinsser high hide cover stain. $20 a gallon. I just rolled one coat on and only used probably less than a pint. Despite it being listed as 77% solids, it’ went on pretty thin. But I’ve got plenty so I’ll just do a few coats. I believe the next coats will start to build. I got it tinted to a cream color – closer to my final colors than white anyways. A few days of priming and I’ll be ready for finish sanding and then - color!
No more X’s guys, sorry http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?m=1129645325g
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johnno
02-10-2013, 05:54 PM
You'll be on the water soon Tim. I'm looking forward to these upcoming pics.

Vernon
02-10-2013, 10:50 PM
Nice. Always hard to tell from a picture, but that almost looks too good. I can't see em, but I'm sure you left some scratchs or bumps or something just so everyone will know you built it yourself.

timo4352
02-16-2013, 09:28 PM
I've realized that I've passed the one year mark on this build. Time flies when you're having fun, I guess.
Way back then I thought I'd be sailing in six months time. Maybe more like 18 months should've been my goal.?

The primer is sanding nicely to a pretty smooth finish. I've been sick most of the week and just getting back to sanding, although in short sessions. Applying the primer left a mild orange peel effect - good for filling the 60 grit scratches. I've found a quick once over with a dry 150 grit, and then a round of wet sanding with 180 grit sanding screen like used for drywall sanding is working quite nicely.

Just checking out my sail options again, and looks like Duckworks will win out. Their price to complete my sails is less than Sailrite's kits. I may have to get those ordered this weekend - that'll be a big step! The only thing that may hold that back is if they need my masts made first - 'cuz they haven't been started yet.
Tim

timo4352
02-17-2013, 11:12 AM
So what does one do to celebrate their one year anniversary ???
I have placed the order for my sails today!
Another huge step in the build process. Ordering at this time of year they are said to be ready in 4-6 weeks – we’ll see…
Even at 6 weeks time it’ll still be to cold for any sailing around here, so the timing should work out just fine. I should be ready for once everything warms up.
There may be a bit of a surprise involved – but you’ll have to wait to see it!… http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?m=1129645325g
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timo4352
02-23-2013, 06:46 PM
Got some color on the hull today. The color is a close match to the Kirby’s color I had picked. This is just a bit greener – the Kirby’s green/gray sometimes looks green and sometimes blue depending on the light. I wanted more greenish, so I’m happy with this. I used Ace hardware oil based polyurethane alkyd enamel porch floor paint. They can mix any color you want and it was less than $30 a gallon. Finding oil based paint wasn’t easy around here, and to get it mixed in a custom color, this was my best choice. I’m thinking it’ll hold up well – time will tell. The paint was applied by the roll and tip method.
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Geoff Kendrick
02-24-2013, 06:50 AM
Nice color, looks great!

PaulT
02-24-2013, 09:00 AM
Looks great! Like the color and the paint looks to have laid down nicely.

PaulT

timo4352
02-24-2013, 09:23 AM
Thanks guys. I just went out to check on it and turned up the heat in the shop. It looks good - no runs anyways. It'll need a couple more coats to build up a little thickness. It needs to dry for 24-36 hours first. That'll be the hard part - leaving it alone! Maybe I should leave town or something :d

johngsandusky
02-26-2013, 10:01 AM
Beautiful.

Hunky Dory
02-26-2013, 10:44 AM
Looking good and the color looks pretty close to the grey green Kirbys. I don't like to put more paint on than what is needed to cover as over the years it will build up with repaints. And as far as tinting colors I allways do a test piece and let it dry before tinting, most paints will lighten or darken a little when dry.

timo4352
03-16-2013, 10:59 PM
I got my sails from Duckworks today :d
I'm very surprised at the stiffness of the fabric. The sails on my FG boat are old and soft as a bedsheet. What a difference. I was kind of afraid the fabric would crack if they were folded hard. I'm sure that's not the case, but it worried me a little. Shows what I know...
I've been getting the insides painted and have a new head of steam to push on towards the finish - seeing how the sails are here already. I went out to the local thrift store this afternoon and picked up a leather jacket for $17. - It's a size 3X - plenty of leather to put some chafing gear on the sails and do my oar leathers and maybe the next two boats leatherwork too!
Thinking spring and sailing weather Y>
Tim

johnno
03-16-2013, 11:09 PM
Timo, bloody booootiful mate!!

johnw
03-17-2013, 12:06 AM
I got my sails from Duckworks today :d
I'm very surprised at the stiffness of the fabric. The sails on my FG boat are old and soft as a bedsheet. What a difference. I was kind of afraid the fabric would crack if they were folded hard. I'm sure that's not the case, but it worried me a little. Shows what I know...
I've been getting the insides painted and have a new head of steam to push on towards the finish - seeing how the sails are here already. I went out to the local thrift store this afternoon and picked up a leather jacket for $17. - It's a size 3X - plenty of leather to put some chafing gear on the sails and do my oar leathers and maybe the next two boats leatherwork too!
Thinking spring and sailing weather Y>
Tim

The current style is to put more stabilizer in the fabric than they used to. I rather liked the old style with the softer fabric. The last sail I bought for my Snipe sounds like it's ripping when it flogs.

Eddiebou
03-17-2013, 08:22 AM
Yep, lookin' good, timo. I'm curious. She's 13 feet long. Not including your labor and the sails, how much did she cost by the foot? I might start a thread about this.

timo4352
03-17-2013, 09:33 AM
Yep, lookin' good, timo. I'm curious. She's 13 feet long. Not including your labor and the sails, how much did she cost by the foot? I might start a thread about this.

Well, I'm still not done yet. But not including sails I'm around $1000 right now. There will be a few hundred more before it's all done. So, for now, I'll say about $100 a foot. Sounds kinda pricey to me when it's put that way. And this was supposed to be a budget build. Or maybe it is...
:confused:
Tim

timo4352
03-22-2013, 09:08 PM
Got it through my head that flotation was not so much trouble to add. And it really wasn’t. Just one of those things I guess I found a distasteful job and wasn’t too excited about doing. But in the end it was quite easy, quick, and the added peice of mind is well worth it. I used 1-1/2″ foam board insulation from Home cheapo. Cuts so easy with the little Japanese saw and final shaping was done with a rasp.
You can see my interior colors in these pics. Or the best they can be seen under my lousy shop lights anyways. Hope to get her out in the sunlight pretty soon though.
The decks should be glued down this weekend, I hope.
Getting closer!
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Breakaway
03-22-2013, 09:27 PM
I like those colors!

Kevin

johnw
03-23-2013, 12:10 AM
Isn't that floatation a little high? Will the boat float high enough to bail?

DanSkorupka
03-23-2013, 01:02 AM
Reminds me of the Vaurien dinghy, is it a derivative of it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QADMUtGKchk

The Vaurien was a low cost french design. If lightly loaded it would plane for anything, even a small motor.
Much later it turned into a high end race class with serious sticker shock, becoming a soft chine FG boat with a lot more canvas but not as much beauty.

donald branscom
03-23-2013, 01:15 AM
Your photos are HUGE!!!

4,288 pixels wide and 34.9 Megabites file size!!!!
They take for ever to load.

Our computer screens are only capable of seeing 600 pixels wide in most cases.

You need to get these file sizes down to 40K NOT 35 MEGABITES.

Do you know how to do that???

timo4352
03-23-2013, 06:39 AM
I would like to see the flotation lower too, but wanted it out of sight. I'm open to suggestions. Airbags under the rear seat?
Fenders lashed in forward?

johnw
03-23-2013, 01:53 PM
Something under floorboards?

timo4352
03-23-2013, 09:41 PM
Something under floorboards?

No room really -- and I'd be afraid of trapped water and rot issues. I was thinking about the square throwable cushion type preservers - lashed to the insides at strategic locations so I can lean back on them if I'm sitting on the floor. Dual purpose.
Do you think that having flotation up high makes the boat easier to right if she goes belly up? Or am I dreaming that up?
Tim

KMacDonald
03-23-2013, 09:48 PM
You dont need flotation. Wood floats all by itself. Besides a little risk is part of the fun.

Arizona Bay
03-23-2013, 11:09 PM
I suspect with the flotation up so high, even if the boat is upright it will sit so low in the water you may not be able to bail it out.

Very fine looking boat!

johnw
03-23-2013, 11:57 PM
No room really -- and I'd be afraid of trapped water and rot issues. I was thinking about the square throwable cushion type preservers - lashed to the insides at strategic locations so I can lean back on them if I'm sitting on the floor. Dual purpose.
Do you think that having flotation up high makes the boat easier to right if she goes belly up? Or am I dreaming that up?
Tim

If the boat turns turtle, the thing that will make it easy to right is not having too much flotation in the sides. The more stable it is upside down, the harder to get it back up. Wooden masts help keep it from turning turtle, but to bail it out you need to have the boat float high enough not to swamp with you in it. On Meerkat, I put air chambers in the ends, in Black Swan, I put flotation under the floorboards. Figure out how much the foam weighs, and you can quickly calculate how many cubic feet you need to float yourself. Of course, there are an awful lot of boats out there that don't bother with this, which is fine as long as the situation doesn't arise. Think about how you'll use the boat, who will be able to help if you get in trouble, and you'll be able to work out what you need.

Floorboards that are a foam sandwich might be an option.

timo4352
03-25-2013, 06:23 PM
Thanks for the ideas John - I'm still contemplating my flotation needs...

In the meantime I’ve been getting the decks epoxied down. Every extra little peice that goes on now gets me one step closer to having a complete, usable boat. It’s been a long time coming. It’s a pretty exciting time in the build process. I can almost imagine being out on the water in her. The decks will get fiberglassed also before paint. Then I’ve got to get started on the coamings.
You can see in the one pic what I came up with for oarlock sockets. Oilite bronze bushings. It turns out 5/8″ bronze oarlock sockets are like hen’s teeth. I think these will do fine.
Hope I haven't overdone it with the pics...
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jim_cricket
03-25-2013, 09:00 PM
Hey Timo,
I see that you want to keep your flotation out of sight, but I think your deck flotation is too high to be of much good. Your hull may well float with that out of the water, but with the boat too submerged to bail easily. FWIW, I put Holt dinghy bags in my crab skiff, and they (along with watertight b'hds fore and aft) keep the boat floating high, with the trunk top above water. I know this from real world experience, not a drill. It was a mess enough even floating high, and would have been a real problem with the trunk top awash. Whatever you do, do a controlled capsize test. You'll find out all your weak spots. Don't wait til you're in dire straits. Here's a pic of Cricket's floatation.

http://jimluton.com/images/cricktent2_web.jpg

Lookin good!
Cricket

timo4352
03-29-2013, 08:36 AM
Thanks Cricket
I'm convinced now that I'll need more more/better flotation. How I'll do that is not clear yet, but something will click. I've considered a removable plug for the centerboard trunk opening - that may be of only limited help though... a bilge pump and small gel battery might make it into the boat as well....

Thanks for the pic BTW - I really like your stepped coamings and may put them on my boat too. Do you have a page with more pics of cricket? There might be more good ideas I'd like to steal. :D
Tim

Tom Robb
03-29-2013, 02:58 PM
A battery powered pump to use when swamped?
I think I'd take a 5 gal. bucket with me. And one of those bicycle pump style hand pumps to finish off.
+1 on the controlled capsize experiment! Less panic, less chaos, more real world data.

jim_cricket
03-29-2013, 03:11 PM
Hi Tim,
Cricket's pics are at http://jimluton.com/boats/ Its a construction log, so not real recent. More flotation is always good!

timo4352
03-29-2013, 04:05 PM
Thanks

timo4352
04-08-2013, 07:34 PM
Now the decks have been glassed and the coaming installed. The purple skirt will be gone for good soon. A little sanding and paint and a few more loose ends to tie up and she’ll be ready to row.
Then onto the rudder, masts and sprits.
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johnw
04-08-2013, 07:39 PM
Official USCG flotation standards.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/pdfs/SafetyStandardforBackyardBoatBuilders.pdf

They seem more concerned that you should have something to cling to than that you be able to bail the boat out.

timo4352
04-13-2013, 09:39 PM
Well, I retired my old FG sailboat. I took her off the trailer and stored her out behind the barn for now. Kinda sad in a way, but exciting too. Not sure if I’ll want to keep her yet or not. I did need the trailer for the sharpie. I’ve got the boat and trailer set up side by side now, and I’m making adjustments to the rollers and bunks to fit the new boat. I’ll give the trailer some much needed paint also before the boat goes on. The decks will be ready for paint real soon , and after that I should be ready for a launching – of sorts. I still need to build my rudder and spars before I can sail her, but I can try her out as a rowboat. Maybe two more weekends and I’ll be ready for that. http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1129645325g

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johnno
04-13-2013, 10:18 PM
Gee, that's a fine looking boat.

Duncan Gibbs
04-13-2013, 11:03 PM
^+1! :)

peterchech
04-14-2013, 02:55 PM
Nice build!!!

WI-Tom
04-14-2013, 03:06 PM
Looks great--I like the color scheme, too.

Tom

johnw
04-14-2013, 03:50 PM
Well, you'll go from being just another guy at the launching ramp to the guy getting all the compliments and questions, especially when you've got the rig ready.

timo4352
04-14-2013, 06:33 PM
Thanks, guys.
I got the trailer all set up and painted today.
One step closer to that launching ramp :)

timo4352
04-17-2013, 07:52 PM
I got the boat off the strongback and onto the trailer today. I had to make one minor adjustment to the height of one of the rollers and fine adjust the bunks. She fits the trailer well, I think. The strongback will now become my mast bench. And now that she’s mobile, I can make an appointment to get her inspected so I can get my HIN number and registration. The trailer was painted with leftover paint from a ’55 Buick I had long ago. When I see the trailer now I’ll have memories of the old Buick too. http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1129645325g
Coming along…
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johnw
04-17-2013, 07:55 PM
Sweet!

davebrown
04-17-2013, 08:28 PM
super!

johnno
04-18-2013, 12:27 AM
yeah yeah!

Tom Robb
04-20-2013, 11:06 AM
Nice!
"55 Buick? Now that's a boat... or perhaps a barge. Was it a Roadmaster? Those seem to achieved Kool in their old age.

timo4352
04-26-2013, 08:04 PM
I’ve finished up the paint over the past week or so. What do you think of the colors? The floorboards need paint yet.
Damned if that profile shot doesn't look just like the lines drawing! Maybe I've learned a little something about building a boat!
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johnw
04-26-2013, 08:22 PM
I like the color scheme. What's the color on the rub rails & etc?

timo4352
04-26-2013, 08:44 PM
All the colors were picked off from a Kirby's color chart. I took my chart to the big box store and matched up as close as posibble to: Kirby's Green/Gray for the hull,- the interior color is Putty, - and the seats, coaming, rubrail,etc is Reddish.

hokiefan
04-26-2013, 10:14 PM
I like it. Nice work. :)

It looks like you haven't installed the centerboard yet, I assume you'll have to lift it off the trailer to do that?

Cheers,

Bobby

DCBrown
04-27-2013, 12:30 AM
Can't wait to see it fully rigged. Bet you'll be the only guy in town with one like it.

jim_cricket
04-27-2013, 06:40 AM
Looks great Tim! Have you done the spars yet? Looking forward to launching day.

Breakaway
04-27-2013, 07:51 AM
Looks great! They all look even better in the water!

Kevin

timo4352
04-27-2013, 10:10 AM
Thanks guys.
I've got one sprit shaped. Working towards the rest of the spars. The centerboard can drop in through the top - maybe I'll go do that now. It's a beautiful sunny day out there now. And I've got to get my oars in order 'cause she's about ready to take for a row. :D

davebrown
04-27-2013, 11:29 AM
Just out of curiosity, Tim, did the plans in pot 229 come that size or is that a 1/4" loft that you did pior to build? Thosre are good sized plans if in fact they came from Reul that way.

timo4352
04-27-2013, 01:39 PM
Just out of curiosity, Tim, did the plans in pot 229 come that size or is that a 1/4" loft that you did pior to build? Thosre are good sized plans if in fact they came from Reul that way.

No, that's a 1/4 scale lofting that I did myself. It's based on Parker's design - I shrunk the 16 footer and added a bit here and there (freeboard & beam) to suit.

timo4352
04-27-2013, 08:25 PM
Getting the oars setup today. They are just a cheap, sporting goods store set of Caviness oars. I think I paid 15 bucks apiece for them in the off season a couple years ago. They have some damage from using them without leatherwork, but that’s hidden under the leather now. My stitching is not as good as some I’ve seen, for sure, but it’ll do for now. Maybe if I build a nice set I’ll step it up on the fancy stitching for that pair. We’ll see – I plan on sailing more than rowing - but if she rows nice, maybe I’ll want nicer oars. The opening in the horns was too large so I padded it out with rubber from a bungee strap, seized it with sinew, and leathered over it. It fits good, and looks good to me – I’ll have to see how it works in practice. I'd like to try this stitching method the next time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja-BWvLlKh4

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Vernon
04-27-2013, 10:43 PM
Looking real good Tim. Just in time to enjoy some nice weather coming.

davebrown
04-28-2013, 09:47 PM
Look at the typos in that post! I hate this computer. It's an ASUS and you have to pound the keys to get the damn thing to work.

timo4352
05-04-2013, 01:38 PM
It floats! (http://stickupsharpie.wordpress.com/2013/05/04/it-floats/)
I finally got her in the water this morning. I’m gonna call it an “unofficial launch”. But I had to see her float and try out the oars. All went well. She rode on the trailer just nice and the launch was easy. She floated right off no problem and floats in very shallow water. I didn’t have anyone with me to get rowing pics or trim pics with me in there, but they’ll come later. Floated just according to plan with the bottom of the stem just clear of the water and the transom out as well. Did not sink a noticeable amount once I got aboard so I think the trim is good in that regard. Future pics will tell for sure though. Did not leak a drop. That’s a relief. I rowed for about an hour and it rowed pretty well for me. It was kind of windy and windage from the bow caused just a little trouble – not too bad though. I tried out the centerboard and it drops just to the right depth with my 10 pounds if lead in there – I’m happy with that. I left it down for rowing and it seemed to help with the windage. Still turns easily with the board down – happy with that too. Now I’m a total beginner at rowing so I have nothing really to compare this boat to , but it moved along pretty easy and turned good too so I’d call it a success. The extended oarlocks felt plenty strong even when I pulled a bit harder. The centerboard case does hit me in the back just above my tailbone, but I expected that. Maybe some future surgery will be done if I decide to row more. Right now I’m more interested in sailing than rowing.
Thanks for sharing my “unofficial launch” day with me!
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hokiefan
05-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Excellent stuff. Very well done.

Cheers,

Bobby

johnw
05-04-2013, 02:39 PM
She looks even better in the water.

davebrown
05-04-2013, 06:25 PM
Great, great, great! I like a light green boat. Please post some more photos when you get them, of being on the water.

Breakaway
05-04-2013, 07:36 PM
She looks awesome, Timo!

Kevin

Paul Montgomery
05-04-2013, 08:32 PM
Fabulous!

timo4352
05-04-2013, 08:49 PM
Thank you all.
Hopping aboard and putting my faith in a boat I built myself is a pretty special feeling.
You guys helped me build this boat --- I never would have come even this far without this fine forum. I very much appreciate the info I've been able to retain from everyone here.
Next pics - I'm hoping will be showing some sailing schtuff. :D
Tim

johnno
05-04-2013, 08:56 PM
Good winds Tim, can't wait. Hearty congrats on your unofficial launch day..very glad it went so well!

Sharpie21
05-05-2013, 08:34 AM
Timo, I have been following this thread closely as I have a sharpie build of my own to finish. I just hope mine turns out as well as yours has. Well done, and it does inspire.

Eddiebou
05-05-2013, 12:44 PM
I am reminded of when I put my first little sharpie in and tried to sail it. I told people I was going for a "see trial". That's when you "try" it out and hope nobody "sees" you.