A Big Plywood Sloop ..for the DIY non-professional builder

[Norske3]

C. Raymond Hunt's 510 Class Sloop..Double Ended...he designed this one for his own use....
Quoting from WB mag #7, pg 69., an article by the master himself.

"In 1945, I designed the original "510" class yacht for myself as a logical development of the "210". THIS SAME THEME WAS LATER CARRIED EVEN FURTHER IN THE 55' L.O.A. "1010" CLASS YACHT. (Wow...55 feet...I wonder if any were built?... He said this boat is relatively inexpensive to build/easily handled and Very high performance mover....the hull form is hard-chine)...Norske comments.

"The designer feels that the "510" can provide incomparable performance per dollar invested. Furthermore, with its SIMPLE hull form and fabricated keel, the designer believes that the "510" is eminently suited for construction in plywood or foam-cored fiberglass, by the non-professional builder. This is a shape easily lofted, for which frames or forms are quickly made and which lends itself to speedy "planking" with anything from laminated plywood to closed-cell P.V.C foam or C-FLEX.Because hull shape is so simple, single skin plywood construction is also feasible."...end of quote.

From scaling the mag drawing, cabin height is about four feet...when cooking you stand in the hatch way...it has a split galley (cooking on one side and prep/clean up on the other)..four berths...a real working head on one side(no wooden bucket)and a large locker opposite...I like this boats whole idea...simple hull form/high performance/easy construction/relatively inexpensive materials..all means Mr. Hunt was an excellent designer.

Being able to sail to Maine speedily from Boston is sooo appealing.. smile.gif Though it is a simple hull form it doesn't look anything like a box...it is beautiful to look at...good photo in this article.

HELLO SHANE!...you should look closely at this one.Mate smile.gif

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[AngWood]

Got a scanner or digital camera? All the talk of this boat has really raised my curiosity--I wanna see it!

[Norske3]

No scanner but send me your email address...I will relay a profile drawing to you I got from a designer in Newport, R.I.

[Wild Dingo]

Who me?? ;)

Ahhh but I have my friend :cool: ... looks sorta like an overgrown canoeythingy with a mast and sail eh?! :D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p6ba167d0b75494054a62e1c492ce29c7/fc192df2.jpg

and another Im sure Scot wont mind with this...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p45db4dc20cd71701c156b642532b0acc/fc192df6.jpg

oooh to heck with it!... another!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/pdde024d8771f2fd0d4d96ae9079accc2/fc192bbd.jpg

One more for the road??

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p450b8bf56e365d7f9bf055f3e169b347/fc192bba.jpg

Nice huh! :cool:

[Norske3]

HEY! GOOD SHOW...SPOT ON MATE.....Shane you are fast on the uptake....yeah, a canoe...but what a canoe!

[imported_Conrad]

Ah, yes.... the 600 hour canoe! :D

[Ken Hall]

:D :D :D

[Norske3]

..some don't want to build fast and light then sail fast and easy, eh?...and its not an open canoe....the Vikings would have liked it.

[paladin]

so what are the vital statistics...I can't read the fuzzy print.....

[imported_Conrad]

You know, for the way most really use their boats, this would be perfect- a fast, beautiful daysailer that you can cruise over the weekends and the two week vacation. Slip fees would be a bit harsh around here though.

[Norske3]

paladin..stats in "International 510" design thread..scroll down a bit.

Conrad..that's where my thinking is..."how most use their boats"...racing on the week-ends...two week cruises.....and it is so buildable in ply for the amateur builder(even the keel is a fabrication..not all casting) and inspite of it size its an easy sail to handle for the single sailor...the long length means speed of course, so you could do a lot of coast if the wind holds...what would the hull alone in ply cost I wonder...any one care to make an estimate?

SLIP? who needs a slip...anchor ..plenty of room aft way out of the way...for a "DINK".

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[John B]

Remember the LFH "sailing machine" with the swing( side to side) keel. This boat reminds me a lot of that. We have one ( the "Sailing machine")here. the keel got locked up though. No one to race against because of the moving appendage thing and ambiguous sort of performance by all accounts. What it gained in stability it gave away in leeway. Of course, the modern equivalents, the open 60's and the like, use that keel idea but compensate with extra dagger boards for lateral plane.But I digress.

[Wild Dingo]

Here yer go Chucker me ol mate :D

Dimensions

LOA 43'5"

LWL 32"6"

Beam 6' 7 1/2"

Draft 6'

Displacement on DWL 6900lbs

Ballast 5600lbs

Sail Area 551.4sq ft

Construction

Hull > Laminated Plywood

Deck and Cabins > Laminated Plywood Fibreglass covered

Cockpit sides > Teak

Cockpit > Fibreglass covered plywood with Teak coamings and trim

Spars >spruce

There yer go mate!! :cool:

[Norske3]

Ahoy anyone. Can someone show a pic/drawing of LFH "sailing machine" with the side to side swinging "water wing"?

[paladin]

Shane...my error...I wanna know the specs on the 1010......and I think a 60 foot version would be slick for a low tech approach to the BOC or present "Around Alone" race.....cheap phun..... :D :D :D

[Norske3]

..I HAVE NO INFO ON THE "1010".

[ishmael]

What fun! And quite handsome I think. Not much in the way of accomadations for the length smile.gif , but who cares? I would second whoever said you should check the prices on slips.

Just a shot from the hip re cost of materials for the hull. Say 30 grand? That could be way off as I just pulled it out of the air.

Pleasant dreams!

[Wild Dingo]

Originally posted by Norske3:
..I HAVE NO INFO ON THE "1010".Sadly nor have I... but aye ye be a cruel man young Norke!... imagine raisin such hopes for young Chucker then letting him down with such bluntness :rolleyes:

Ne'er mind Chuck ol mate we will find something to tempt ye! :cool:

[Norske3]

...eh?...whose N O R K E?.....I'm N O R S K E.

I think I will post "new sub" post calling for info on "1010"...maybe some old timer still workin' at the Hunt Website will remember..

ISHMAEL..yeah, lotsa fun..and plenty of room ..just strung out a bit..long length means speed, right?..now what would the plywood cost just for the hull(of it)..then DIY it?..I wonder if there is any details available on the "steel sheet fabricated/lead" combo keel..

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[ishmael]

My guess is materials cost for the completed shell, hull, deck, cabin and cockpit, and like I said it could be way off. Nice round figure though, thirty grand. smile.gif

[Norske3]

Whoa...in the USA ,what is a sheet (4 x 8) of top quality plywood going for these days?...1/2,3/4 and 1 inch. I'm afraid to look myself.. :D

[Wild Dingo]

:D :D tongue.gif wee slip of the fingers mate! :rolleyes: bit hard to concentrate at times when this mob get unruly!! :eek:

[Jack C]

600 Hour Canoe? LOL! That's a good one. Make it at least a 6000 Hour Canoe. That would be more realistic.

Seems to me, and maybe I'm being a bit of a rainy parade, but there are dozens of these same type of boats in Scandinavia. 30 Square Meters by name I believe. 45 ft. of boat with no headroom. Yeehaww!

Jack

[Norske3]

..so is their a need for "standing room'...you have head room ....sitting/eating/sitting in the "head office" :D doing your inportant business...a small price to pay for Speed..thats what you want..simple construction..less materials/less cost....draggin' a deep built hull thru the water so you can stand up?...for coastwise cruising who needs it.

Jack C...if you know of a Scanda-"hovian" 30 meter boat or something close built in Plywood please let me know. smile.gif

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[Noah]

There's one on Yachtworld that you might like.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1093616&slim=quick&

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/0/9/3/6/1093616_1.jpg

Only $8500.

[rbgarr]

Norske- There's that Luders 24 (38' loa) without an interior still for sale in NY. You could fit her out as you wish inside and make good time downeast. I sailed my Shields (20' lwl) from Gloucester to Boothbay a few years ago and made it in 17 hours, mostly reaching, some of the time under spinnaker. (Sailing back to Mass. is a different story unless you wait for a Northeast breeze). Mine was a dream trip. A sparrow landed in the cockpit off Portland and hitched a ride for an hour or so toward Halfway Rock. Very cute.

[Norske3]

Thanks rbgarr..is it on the internet?....oh, what a dream trip and 17 hours..imagine what the "510" could do,maybe 14 or 15 hours..leaving Boston at sunrise and arriving up around Bath Maine at sunset would be a treat ...no overnight sailing for me..to many fishing boats to run you down..no night watches either..easy FAST sailing...then drop anchor, have a meal in a quiet cove and watch the sun set...it doesn't get any better than that...of course you want to bring a bug net.Their hungry in Maine. smile.gif

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[rbgarr]

Noah- Thanks for the picture of the Hunt 225. She looks like a screamer.

Norske- See this month's WB Classifieds for more info on the Luders, or ask Noah. He's talked to the owner.

C. R. Hunt Yacht Design in Boston may have Ray Hunt's old designs still available if someone wants to run down 1010 plans.

Another boat is the Nantucket Splinter 'MARIN', by Bruce King of East Boothbay, Maine, which I saw a few years ago. She was very much like the 510 only a bit smaller at 38'. Can't recall know how suitable she'd be for DIY. She was built be Able Marine in Lemoine (?), Maine in 1989.

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