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maa. melee
11-17-2005, 09:27 PM
Anyone have an idea where to find plans and info. about Bolger's Instant galley or Navel Jelly as it might be called?

http://hallman.org/bolger/InstantGalley.gif

JimConlin
11-17-2005, 09:41 PM
The information you seek is in the bottom right corner of the posted image.

maa. melee
11-17-2005, 10:22 PM
Yes I realize theres the address there. Yeah, I'm sure they'll send me study plans, call them up and have them explain to me how her stations fall or how much water she draws. I wonder if they'll estimate BOM and cost for me too....That just isn't practical. There's gotta be something out there short of ordering the plans. So much for wanting to quench my curiosity, I guess :rolleyes:

[ 11-17-2005, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: maa. melee ]

landlocked sailor
11-17-2005, 10:39 PM
Write a longhand letter to Phil with all your questions; you will get a long hand letter back. All your questions will be answered. Any follow ups will be answered with the same grace and patience.. Rick

maa. melee
11-17-2005, 10:42 PM
Phil is very respectable and I believe I'll take your advice on writing him a letter. Ok how bout this, anyone build or see one of these under sail or oar?

Steve Paskey
11-18-2005, 06:41 AM
I've not heard of any other than the original as built for oars. Looks like fun with enough hands, but sheesh! -- $200 for the prints?

Absolutely ridiculous. That's Suzanne Altenburger's doing. Lord know what she's do when Bolger is gone, and she has complete control over his drawings.

[ 11-18-2005, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: Steve Paskey ]

Jack C
11-18-2005, 08:22 AM
Shoot, 30 minutes with Plyboats and you'd have the same thing for a lot less than $200.

But I'd still not recommend it for a sailing craft; best stick with the rowing option.

Jack

Mark Van
11-18-2005, 12:55 PM
The original Navel Jelly plans are in the book "The Folding Schooner", long out of print, and hard to find.

The price does seem high, considering that the entire building plans for the rowing version are on one sheet.

[ 11-18-2005, 12:59 PM: Message edited by: Mark Van ]

brian.cunningham
11-19-2005, 12:38 AM
So the idea of the raked masts is to maintian the overlap?

Tom Robb
11-19-2005, 04:44 PM
You might find a copy of the book in your library. I think Bolger expects people to build from the books where enough information is published to do so.
But if the $200 sticks in your craw, it wouldn't take too much imagination to build an Instant Gally-like entity from the dimensions in the article, or better yet pick out your own dimensions attempting to minimize plywwod waste.
Are you sure Harold Payson doesn't have plans for it or at least one enough like it that you could interpolate/guesstimate dimensions and building methods?

maa. melee
11-20-2005, 01:46 AM
The design seems very straighforward, hard chine, double ends, plywood sides and bottom. Not too different than many other boats he's designed. I was mostly curious about this boat. Looks fast. I suspect the rowing version is popular, guess it'll make a fine pulling boat. The sailing version seems a little overcanvassed, if not tipsy and tender when short on hands. The rigging looks complicated but, with regard to many of Phil's boats, looks can be deceiving. :D

Tom Robb
11-20-2005, 04:51 PM
BTW, I forgot to add that it's at least good manners, if not ethically imperative, to pay Bolger a royalty if you build from the plans in his books. I'd imagine about 15% or so of your building cost. The guy makes his living from the plans. WWJD...what would justice demand?

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maa. melee
11-20-2005, 06:19 PM
Of course, Tom. A man need only make an honest profit.

brian.cunningham
11-20-2005, 08:17 PM
suddenly reminded that the designer of Bluenose never got paid!

Tom Robb
11-22-2005, 02:48 PM
I'm reminded of the biblical (?)admonishment, "Do not muzzle the oxen treading on the threshing floor." ;)

The galley looks like a nice project for a scout troop or any program intended to get kids busy with something healthy and constructive.

I've wanted to try a rowing shell and havn't got the cash. It struck me that something like the plywood galley only 20 or 24 ft. by maybe 18 or 24in. would be a cheap way to see if I'm up to the challenge of learning to ballance the thing. :rolleyes:

[ 11-22-2005, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: Tom Robb ]