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bamamick
12-30-2011, 07:28 PM
I am assuming that at 29'10" a 210 is eligible? That might have a bearing on the boat I buy all things being equal. Did anyone here sail last year? Was it worth the trip? Fun galore?
Anyone planning on it this year? Could we do an EBS?
Mickey Lake
Dale Genther
12-31-2011, 07:44 AM
Mickey, An EBS will certainly be in order. I can't see why a 210 wouldn't be included, but it's really up to Carl Cramer and WB Mag.
This year the Rock Hall Yacht Club has decided to change the regatta a bit. In addition to the regatta we are going to incorporate a wooden boat show, in the water and on land, into the event. We are hoping to attract even more attendees and spectators than we had last year.
Woxbox
12-31-2011, 07:49 AM
Is the date set yet?
bamamick
12-31-2011, 08:34 AM
It's in mid-May.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
01-03-2012, 12:43 PM
May 18-20, again at Rock Hall YC.
We would LOVE some 210s.
I'll post the NOR shortly.
bamamick
01-03-2012, 05:40 PM
How far is it from Gibson Island to the Rock Hall YC? As I recall a 210 would have to sail or be towed to this yacht club. I seem to recall there being some logistical issues.
Mickey Lake
Woxbox
01-03-2012, 06:57 PM
It's about 20 miles from Gibson Island - right across the bay and then up the winding Chester River a bit.
I'm wondering if there's any place for a simple little Whisp. Seems it's aimed at class boats. If not, I may just go as a spectator.
bamamick
01-03-2012, 08:21 PM
I don't know the rules, exactly. I know that in the past what we have done here locally is assign a provisional number for boats that weren't in the USSA database. You'd just have to give them an idea of what your boat sails like, or maybe they could use displacement and sail area to find something similar. It's been done, but of course all that would be up to the committee.
20 miles is a long way, especially up a river, to get to what is more or less an exhibition race. I will have to think on it quite a bit. If I can arrange it all then it's no problem, but I will probably have to wind up finding crew since 2/3 of my Dragon team are not going to be able to make it (I am the other third :)). I have the vacation time and I can get there and do what needs doing but I can't do it by myself. We'll see.
Mickey Lake
Woxbox
01-03-2012, 09:56 PM
The club just has a lumpy shallow ramp. But nearby is a decent county ramp and there are two boatyards with travel lifts.
Dale Genther
01-04-2012, 07:34 AM
Mickey - Let me know what you are thinking of doing, Re the 210, I can probably arrange for something to assist. Also, we have two marinas in Rock Hall Harbor plus a house with deepwater dockage near the RHYC. If this helps anybody.
bamamick
01-04-2012, 07:42 AM
Thanks, Dale. I will take this into consideration.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
01-04-2012, 12:42 PM
We welcome ALL wooden sail boats 30' LOA and under.
For non-class boats, we assign Portsmouth Yardstick numbers.
I'm hoping some of the Gibson island 210s are able to come this year. (Last year, they had a date conflict.)
bamamick
01-04-2012, 06:45 PM
Dale, so tell me this: if I could get someone to haul the boat from Gibson Island on her trailer to one of those marinas near the RHYC, launching and retreiving would be simple, just a matter of writing a check, and I could find somewhere to tie up over the weekend at or near the yacht club?
A lot of 'ifs' involved in this deal, but if we are going to do it we will need some answers.
Thanks,
Mickey Lake
Dale Genther
01-05-2012, 07:17 AM
Yes, you could hace her launched from her trailer by one of the local marinsa. I'd call in advance and make "reservations" though. I don't know how much it would cost. I'm sure we could find a place to time up, near the club, for the weekend. Also the are two long docks at the club, 6-8 slips, plus moorings available. What is the draft of a 210?
bamamick
01-05-2012, 09:15 PM
I got an e-mail tonight about a very nice 210 from the Gull Lake fleet that the owner wants to sell. Wooden spars on a 1959 hull. Sounds like a dream boat. I am not going to go that direction because I don't want the maintenance and weight of wooden spars, but if someone wants a retro-fitted 210 in great shape I have some contact information.
sooner or later several of us are going to buy the same kind of boat and we will have a lot of fun discussing things here. I nominate the 210!
Mickey Lake
DudleyDix
01-15-2012, 08:15 AM
Carl, wasn't that a 210 that sailed in my class last year? Do you know where that boat launched? I think it was close by.
Carl Cramer
01-16-2012, 02:05 PM
Hi, Dudley. No, that was the souped up 110 from Newport, sailed by Ross and Eli.
For ERR, they added two feet to meet the minimum LOA, and also had two other "modified" 110s.
What they taught me is that I'm too old to 110, but of fine age for 210.
Carl Cramer
01-19-2012, 09:36 AM
The NOR is here:
http://www.woodenboat.com/woodregatta.php
and I hope to see many of you in Rock Hall.
bamamick
01-24-2012, 09:11 AM
As of today I am planning on attending with a 210. I will need to know some stuff about places to launch, places to stay, the usual logistical things when you travel to a regatta, but I do plan on being there and I am looking forward to meeting even more WBFers this year.
Mickey Lake
bamamick
02-01-2012, 09:34 AM
I know there are hotels, etc. on the NOR, but could a local give us some information about the best places to stay, where to have a trailerable boat launched, etc.?
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
02-01-2012, 06:45 PM
The coolest place to stay is to bring a tent and stay at the Yacht Club. It's in a great location.
Are you talking about launching the 210, Mickey? There's a crane at the YC, but I'm not sure of the capacity. Also, two marinas nearby.
Woxbox
02-01-2012, 07:47 PM
I stopped by over the Christmas break to check out the club. A member I was chatting with said those who have boats too big for the ramp go up to the Lankford Bay Marina. (23002 McKinleyville Road, Rock Hall, MD 21661-2147(410) 778-1414 ) It is very close. This is no recommendation, just passing along what I was told. I did drive over to the marina, but being the holiday was no one around.
Dale Genther
02-02-2012, 07:06 AM
Mickey,
Depending on draft you can launch a trailerable boat a short distance from the club at a nice launch ramp. The club has an old somewhat usable ramp, also. The club also has two cranes, I think 1 ton capacity. What is the draft and displacement of a 210?
Go to www.rockhallmd.com for everythink you want to know about lodging, food, events, etc
bamamick
02-02-2012, 07:16 AM
Hmm. No tents. I am too old and infirmed for tenting. I did this a couple of years ago at the Finn Toilet Bowl and got about an hours sleep in three nights. Yucko.
They would not let us launch a 210 on a one-ton hoist. It weighs about 2300 pounds, so we'll need a marina and I will find out about those. Thanks for that contact Wox.
This is going to be quite the adventure.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
02-02-2012, 07:08 PM
There are nice B&Bs downtown (Rock Hall), Mickey. There's a list of them on the NOR page.
bamamick
02-22-2012, 09:28 AM
I made a reservation at the Mariner's motel. May not be as spiffy as the B&B's but I am hopeful that my daughter will be sailing with us and she and I can't do a B&B together, while a double room works just fine.
My plan is to pick up my boat at Gibson Island on Thursday morning and drive it over to wherever I am going to launch from (still not planned), do any little maintenance that I can do that day and then launch in the afternoon. Then we will sail on the weekend and haul back out on Monday before heading home.
Mickey Lake
bamamick
02-22-2012, 03:36 PM
Well dang. No room at the inn on the 19th, so that means we will go somewhere else.
Mickey Lake
bamamick
02-22-2012, 03:54 PM
Or maybe not. A quick internet search didn't find me one room at a motel within ten miles of Rock Hall that we could get for four nights. And this is in February booking for May, so I guess this is a darn popular place.
I will look some more later. Frustrated right now.
Mickey Lake
Dale Genther
02-23-2012, 06:52 AM
Mickey, I assume you tried the motel at Noth Point Marina and the one at Swan Point Inn. If not let me know and I'll get the tel. nos. Yes, Rock Hall does fill up pretty good during the warmer months with boaters and the colder months with hunters.
bamamick
02-23-2012, 07:07 AM
Well, I sent them a note back that we would take the rooms for the 17th, 18th, and 20th. We'll see if they send anything back today, but the note I got from them last night made it sound like it'll work. So we just have to find something for Saturday night. I will try and find something today.
I must admit that I got a little discouraged, but it was only a temporary setback. Still, anyone who is wanting to attend this even should be making their plans now, it would seem.
Mickey Lake
International 210 #332, 'Coot'
bamamick
02-23-2012, 12:47 PM
Progress! I am confirmed at the North Point Marina for Saturday night and I sent an e-mail to the Rock Hall Marine Railway about launch and retrieval. I am still waiting for confirmation from the Mariner's about those other days. I also contacted someone today about a slightly used (one event) mylar/pentex main for the boat.
Things are coming together.
Mickey Lake
frank pedersen
02-23-2012, 07:52 PM
Mickey,
This is a bit hard to explain, but the Rock Hall Marine Railway is nowhere close to the Rock Hall Yacht Club. There are two facilities close to the the club that can help you, but I am a small boat person (Wayfarer) and I have no experience with either. One is Long Cove Marina, or something like that, and the other is Lankford Bay Marina, actually on Davis Creek. Dale might be a better source of information.
I apologize that my house in Chestertown is not large enough to take people in, but that was a choice so we could have another modest house in Brooklin. Not a bad plan on balance.
I will be there racing my relatively new Wayfarer. It was 64 degrees F. today, so the odds are it will be mild weather.
Frank
bamamick
02-24-2012, 06:49 AM
Thanks, Frank. I don't mind the hotel thing, sometimes it's just hard to find a spot in a small town. I never got a response back from the railway guys, and I will contact the other two places. Thanks very much for the contact info.
My 210 is not going to win any prizes for aesthetics, from what I gather. I will touch up the topsides a little so she won't look too bad if people are taking pictures of us sailing, but she will have to be refinished properly before too long.
Mickey Lake
Dale Genther
02-24-2012, 07:06 AM
Mickey, Sorry it took so long to respond. Yes, Frank is right, the Rock Hall Yacht Club is about 16 miles by water from the Rock Hall Marine Railway. Contact either Langford Bay Marina or Long Cove Marina. They are both about one mile from the RHYC. The North Point Motel is a good choice. They have a great view of the bay from the rooms and are located on Rock Hall Harbor. The places I usually hang out at are Cain's Marina, which is next to North Point, and Harbor Shack Resturant, which is yery close also. I keep my boats at the small marina at Harbor Shack. If you need a place to park the 210/trailer when you get to town, let me know. It can be a pain driving around pulling a trailer behind you.
Tom Lathrop
02-24-2012, 08:07 AM
The RHYC is a very friendly venue for an invitational regatta. Camping and trailer/boat parking space is plentiful. There is adequate dockage for boats like a 210. Most all boats take out on trailers at night at the beach. The nearest ramp is just around the corner less than a mile away. Launch permits must be purchased at a store near Rock Hall and are for 3 days. I have been there for several Windmill Class Championship regattas and sailed in the WB event last year.
bamamick
02-24-2012, 09:42 AM
Rooms are booked from Thursday night through Sunday night. Got that done. I will contact these launching facilities. Thanks for the help, guys. It'll be fun. I always enjoy sailing in new places.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
02-24-2012, 01:25 PM
Mickey -- It'll be great to see you there, on your BRAND-NEW (to you) 210!
Thad Van Gilder
02-27-2012, 11:30 AM
So what's the deal with the "boat show"? would that be a cool thing to bring my new planked up skiff to?
fair&fair
02-28-2012, 10:28 AM
Oh please...There are plenty of folks older than you that do just fine in 110's Carl! Are you taking your 210 this year?
-Eli
Hi, Dudley. No, that was the souped up 110 from Newport, sailed by Ross and Eli.
For ERR, they added two feet to meet the minimum LOA, and also had two other "modified" 110s.
What they taught me is that I'm too old to 110, but of fine age for 210.
bamamick
02-28-2012, 10:48 AM
Mickey -- It'll be great to see you there, on your BRAND-NEW (to you) 210!
Carl, she's going to be looking pretty tired when you see her, but we will put that to rights once we get home. I am more interested in getting some decent sails on her for your event. Next winter I will try to start on getting her re-finished and will concentrate on doing at least one class event either in Michigan, Maryland, or Massachusetts in 2013.
Mickey Lake
bamamick
03-06-2012, 12:37 PM
$300 to launch and retrieve. That's about what I expected.
Mickey Lake
bamamick
03-06-2012, 09:14 PM
So, what's a nice color for a 210? My boat was last painted with Petit Easypoxy Teal Blue. I can't find that color at any of the websites for the big supply stores, though it is still in the catalog at Petit. I am not sure I want to leaver her that color. My Dragon is fire-engine red with a white boot and black bottom. My Fish is glossy black with a white boot stripe and a Baltoplate bottom. What would look good on my 210?
I will have her sprayed professionally next winter, but as soon as I get her home I plan on doing a quick and dirty sand, fill and paint before taking her to the yacht club. Whaddaya think?
Mickey Lake
International 210 332 'Coot'
Dale Genther
03-06-2012, 09:38 PM
Mickey,
Which marina did you get the $300 price from? Langford Bay or Long Cove?
bamamick
03-06-2012, 09:52 PM
Langford Bay. The guy said that their normal price was much higher ($17 per foot as opposed to the $10 per foot they will charge me) but I got a deal since this is a very simple lift and won't require them cleaning the bottom after the retrieval.
That price is really about what expected. I was really worried that there would be a much higher charge since it's close to Annapolis and all that. $300 is about what you'd pay around here for the same service.
Mickey Lake
Dale Genther
03-07-2012, 07:14 AM
Thanks, I was wondering if they would be charging less than their normal rates as I talked to the owner a couple of weeks ago about it.
BTW Annapolis make be close to the Rock Hall in miles, but it's a world away in lifestyle!!
Woxbox
04-16-2012, 08:54 PM
How about an update on registrations? The event is just a month away.
bamamick
04-17-2012, 06:46 AM
Well, I haven't registered yet, but the cut-off is May 5th. I am still getting things together. I have a new compass, main, and main sheet for the boat so far. I've got to find my air matress and make sure it works. Get a couple of long paddles and some cushions. Some spare line and blocks (I have all of this stuff, I just have to put it all together). All sorts of stuff. Anyway, I will get it sent in.
Mickey Lake
Mrleft8
04-17-2012, 07:34 AM
How long will it take to sail a 210 from Magnolia Springs to Rock Hall? You might want to start now..... :D
bamamick
04-17-2012, 11:53 AM
On it's trailer? About 16 hours, but we will be picking her up in Maryland close to Rock Hall.
Vacation request submitted and approved. Another domino falls.
Mickey Lake
frank pedersen
04-20-2012, 12:18 PM
Mickey, Carl, & Dick Price,
Have you seen the latest edition of Sailing World? The Harken advertising section has a "showcase" on the 210. They describe a sail control system with "only" 20 different fittings; retail cost approx. $1K.
Mainsheet System:
"The 210 mainsheet system uses 57mm Carbo singles on the boom and traveler, and cleat to a 57mm Carbo Ratchet mounted on a barney post. A 57mm Carbo Ratchamatic mounted immediately above the Ratchet provides the skipper with additional power of 10:1 When sheet loads decrease, the Ratchamatic spins freely for fast easing action. The mainsheet tail runs into the boom to a 5:1 fine-tune purchase system. Two Micro blocks create a 15:1 purchase for finger grip upwind control. The fine-tune exits the bottom of the boom through an in-line, thru-deck bullet block and cleat on a pivoting exit or 'headknocker'
block."
Just thought you should know in time for the WOOD regatta.
Frank
bamamick
04-20-2012, 08:39 PM
I haven't seen it, but I have seen the thing that's on the new 210 website, and I am pretty sure that it's the same article. I am not ready to tackle the winchless genoa system, and from what I gather the main system on this boat is about like most others. I love the barney post. I have one on my Fish and I grew up with them on Stars. I think they are neat.
I mailed my registration from today.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
04-24-2012, 02:06 PM
Thanks, Frank. I hadn't seen that, so I appreciate it.
We'll be so much faster at ERR this year.
All best to you, Carl
Mickey, Carl, & Dick Price,
Have you seen the latest edition of Sailing World? The Harken advertising section has a "showcase" on the 210. They describe a sail control system with "only" 20 different fittings; retail cost approx. $1K.
Mainsheet System:
"The 210 mainsheet system uses 57mm Carbo singles on the boom and traveler, and cleat to a 57mm Carbo Ratchet mounted on a barney post. A 57mm Carbo Ratchamatic mounted immediately above the Ratchet provides the skipper with additional power of 10:1 When sheet loads decrease, the Ratchamatic spins freely for fast easing action. The mainsheet tail runs into the boom to a 5:1 fine-tune purchase system. Two Micro blocks create a 15:1 purchase for finger grip upwind control. The fine-tune exits the bottom of the boom through an in-line, thru-deck bullet block and cleat on a pivoting exit or 'headknocker'
block."
Just thought you should know in time for the WOOD regatta.
Frank
bamamick
04-24-2012, 03:56 PM
I did pick up a copy of the magainze the other day. Very nicely done (the article on the 210).
Carl, the sail number on my new/used sail is #449. I didn't put it on the registration form since I didn't know it until recently.
Mickey Lake
DudleyDix
04-27-2012, 02:49 PM
Hi Carl,
I have faxed my entry today. I sent an email to the address that you have on the web page for the harbor master at Rock Hall Yacht Club to arrange my camping. The email bounced because the box is full. I then called the number for him and was told by the guy who answered that he is not PJ O'Connell, nor from RHYC. Last year the harbor master said to just arrive and pitch my tent, so I guess it will be the same again this year.
Dudley
bamamick
04-27-2012, 03:09 PM
Hurrah! I just got a call from the Mariner's Motel that they have a place for us all four nights, so we won't have to move our stuff halfway through and then back after one night at another motel. That's good news.
Mickey Lake
Woxbox
04-27-2012, 07:58 PM
OK, I just faxed in my entry. Anyone else taking a Whisp? I know other forumites have them. How about other entries that aren't designed strictly for performance - Shellback dinghys etc.?
Carl Cramer
04-30-2012, 07:15 AM
Thanks, Dudley. It should all be fine.
Thanks for your sail number, Mickey.
Hi Carl,
I have faxed my entry today. I sent an email to the address that you have on the web page for the harbor master at Rock Hall Yacht Club to arrange my camping. The email bounced because the box is full. I then called the number for him and was told by the guy who answered that he is not PJ O'Connell, nor from RHYC. Last year the harbor master said to just arrive and pitch my tent, so I guess it will be the same again this year.
Dudley
DGentry
05-02-2012, 12:48 PM
Just sent Carl my entry - looking forward to seeing all of you! Be sure to say hi on shore, as I'm sure I'll be busy capsizing my sailing canoe out on the water!
bamamick
05-02-2012, 01:33 PM
Just don't do it in front of a blue-green 210! She will have a rookie driver.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
05-03-2012, 08:59 AM
I think Dave's a good swimmer, Mickey. So you won't have to worry....
DudleyDix
05-06-2012, 05:53 PM
Hi Carl, entries closed yesterday. Will we get to see an entry list?
Carl Cramer
05-07-2012, 08:55 AM
Thanks, Dudley. I'm working on it now... and I know there are a few entries still to come.
Carl Cramer
05-09-2012, 09:29 AM
Here's the list so far, and I'm having fun with the Provisional Portsmouth Yardstick ratings. Do any of you who had them last year have any complaints about yours?
I haven't received the food instructions/choices yet from RHYC.
WOOD Regatta 2012
Class
LOA
1
Bolger Whalewatcher
Patrick
Connor
29'6”
2
CLC Pocketship
Peter
McCrary
18'4”
3
CLC Pocketship
Pascal
Laigle
14'10”?
4
Gypsy
Robert
Pulsch
22'4”
5
Moth
John
Zseleczky
11'
6
Caribe
David
Edinberg
16'4”
7
Lightning
Bob
Astrove
19'
8
Blue Jay
Andrew
Slavinskas
13'6”
9
custom
Jay
Bliss
18'5”
10
Lightning
Frank
Schneider
19'
11
CLC Skerry
Lloyd
Duncan
CANCEL
12
Moth
Victor
Stango
11'
13
Thistle
Thomas
Antrobus
17'
14
Intl 210
Mickey
Lake
29'10”
15
Hampton OD
W. Claiborne
Harris
18'
16
Paper Jet
Dudley
Dix
13.45'
17
Redmond Whisp
David
Dawson
16'4”
18
16-30
Dave
Gentry
16'
19
Lightning
Douglas
Dixon
19'
20
Bolger Micro
Mason
Smith
15'4”
21
mod. River Wizard
Dennis
Keener
16'
22
CLC Skerry
Stephen
Judson
CANCEL
23
I.O. MacGregor
Stephen
Judson
CANCEL
24
Adirondack Goodboat
Bill
Stocker
17'10”
25
Hampton OD
Steve
Kistler
18'
26
Wayfarer
Frank
Pedersen
15'10”
27
Hampton OD
Will
Roberts
18'
28
Moth
Bob
Patterson
11'
29
Hampton OD
Charles
McCoy, Jr.
18'
30
Lightning
Michael
Seibert
19'
Two later additions: Paul Prozzillo (Thistle); Dyer Harris (Windmill).
And another: Latane Montague (Hampton OD)
bamamick
05-09-2012, 10:34 AM
That's surely an interesting fleet. For our part we may not sail close to our rating, depending on if our third makes it or not. If he can make it we will go all out. If not it'll be myself and my daughter, and we will probably sail with the jib and main and wing it out downwind. Yes, we would like to sail well, but this is a vacation first and foremost, and that's how we will treat it.
Mickey Lake
mason smith
05-09-2012, 10:53 AM
Hello Carl. I see you've got me and my Micro on the LOE. This is just to say that I still hope to be there but have much to do on the boat before it's ready, and the weather has slowed me down. I'll keep trying but have paying work I must keep turning out. And my crew is going to the young writers workshop at Breadloaf instead, the apostate. Don't exclude anybody on my account if the list fills up! I'll keep you posted.---Mason
Carl Cramer
05-09-2012, 12:41 PM
Mason, you can do it.
Mickey, fun is what it's about!
DudleyDix
05-09-2012, 12:53 PM
I think that most of will be there for the fun and the company more than to be serious with the racing.
Dudley
andrewdarius
05-09-2012, 01:47 PM
Glad to hear a vote for making it a good time over a trophy hunt. Our other favorite weekend is MASCF in early October. This event nicely bookends our season with camping on the Chesapeake.
I'm curious, how does this compare with last year for number of entrants?
Andy
Carl Cramer
05-09-2012, 02:09 PM
Down a couple, Andy. But I'm sure there will be more coming in -- the procrastinators.
I'll bring my slide rule with me.
Woxbox
05-09-2012, 09:34 PM
I think that most of will be there for the fun and the company more than to be serious with the racing.
I'm not ashamed to say that I came in last two of the three times I entered races at MASCF. It wasn't easy, but we pulled it off by combining a very fat and heavy, under-canvassed boat with a large crew and a devil-may-care attitude. Great things are possible for those who strive. The third MASCF race wasn't quite so successful, with a short crew in the featherweight whisp we passed a boat or two. I'm looking forward to building on this singular record.
Carl Cramer
05-10-2012, 07:21 AM
FOOD.
I've just received from RHYC.
If you'd like to order food from the club, please do so by Tuesday, 5/15.
Here's the menu:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?pli=1&formkey=dGx1eTNnR0FXTG84Mm5tRFUzeUdidVE6MQ#gid=0
I'll email to participants as well.
See you very soon. Thanks, Carl
Woxbox
05-13-2012, 07:12 PM
Have times been established for the skippers' meetings each day, and expected times things will wrap up?
Carl Cramer
05-14-2012, 08:01 AM
Yes, 11 am on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. No idea of when they'll wrap up. It depends on the wind, but the RC is very cognizant. We typically run shorter races.
Thanks, Carl
andrewdarius
05-14-2012, 08:26 AM
I thought the schedule had the Skipper's meeting at 9:30. First gun at 11...?
Andy
Carl Cramer
05-14-2012, 12:54 PM
Oh, right. Thanks, Andy. I think Friday it's 11....
Carl Cramer
05-14-2012, 01:56 PM
Here it is:
FRIDAY
1100: Registration desk opens
1100: Club bar and grill is open all day
1300: Skipper's Meeting for practice racing.
1400-1600: Tune up and practice racing.
1700-1900: Dinner
SATURDAY
0800: Continental Breakfast
0900: Pick up box lunches at bar (if ordered)
0930: Skipper's Meeting
1100: First Gun
1530: No races started after 1530
1700: Club bar is open
1800: Dinner
SUNDAY
0800: Continental Breakfast
(As I recall, there is an optional lunch after the awards, early Sunday pm)
rbgarr
05-14-2012, 07:17 PM
Is Rock Hall within 100 miles of Richmond, VA??Y:o
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SVANEN-1-4-scale-Viking-Longboat-/150815067063?pt=Sailboats&hash=item231d474bb7
Carl Cramer
05-14-2012, 07:26 PM
Go for it, RB. I'll check out Portsmouth to give you a fair rating before the races. Likely in the record-breaking 200s.
Carl Cramer
05-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Early weather report:
Light winds (6-9 knots); clocking on Friday from NE to S/SE. 75 degrees temp. Cloudy. All three days. It should be glorious.
I told you: 600 grit.
bamamick
05-14-2012, 09:11 PM
Light winds is good for me. I usually like it blowy, but with us setting foot in the boat for the first time 6-9 would be perfect. If it's above 12 we may be watching from the beach. I don't want to give the kid a bad experience this first time out in a 210. Of course, the first time she went with us in the Dragon it blew 18-22 all day and she spent most of it bailing, but we won big and she was pretty happy about things. Still, this is the first time EVER that it's just she and I so it will be a lot different feeling to it.
Mickey Lake
DGentry
05-15-2012, 12:18 PM
If my boat breaks in half, Mickey, I'd be happy to crew for you!
bamamick
05-15-2012, 04:05 PM
I will be on the road at 4am tomorrow morning.
Sounds great, Dave. I think we are going to be pretty informal about this, in a formal sort of way, of course. :)
Mickey Lake
wwstocker
05-15-2012, 04:13 PM
I have decided to drive from Sandwich, MA rather than sail.:)
Dale Genther
05-16-2012, 11:23 AM
As one of the display boats, we are trying to have the Chesapeake Bay Buyboat, East Hampton there at the RHYC's dock for an afternoon. She was built in 1925 and is about 60 ft. LOA. She is one of the best restorations in the buyboat fleet. She is worth stopping by to have a look at.
Carl Cramer
05-16-2012, 01:48 PM
That's great, Dale. I can't wait to see her.
Carl Cramer
05-20-2012, 04:37 PM
What a great weekend!
0-8 knots the first day;
10-20 knots the second.
No breakage, at least that I know of.
What a great group! Kudos to all, plus RHYC staff, the race committee, and all of our extended family/racers.
I'll post race results here once I receive them. Please post your photos here.
Same weekend, same place next year?
With any luck, I'll be racing a Moth next year. It hurts me to the quick to be on a powerboat, as wonderful as it is.
Yours, Carl
Woxbox
05-20-2012, 08:27 PM
Absolutely a great time and probably the best time of year for it, too. Here are a few shots to get things rolling.
Milling about before the first race Saturday.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/Woxbox/WG1.jpg
The club beach.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/Woxbox/WG2.jpg
The queen of the fleet, Pat Connor's Whalewatcher.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/Woxbox/WG3.jpg
spulsch
05-20-2012, 09:08 PM
We would like to thank RHYC and Carl Cramer for an excellent Regatta this weekend. If anyone has any pictures or knows anyone who took pictures this weekend we would love some of our boat the Roberta P, she is a Gaff Rigged Cat that raced in the cruising fleet. Please forward to pulsch.nj@comcast.net and/or spulsch@gmail.com.
Thank you,
Robert Pulsch, Susan Pulsch, Bill Carton and Steven Carton
Carl Cramer
05-20-2012, 10:06 PM
Dear Robert,
You guys were a blast, and what a boat you built from Crowninsheild 1900.
I'm not the shooter, but George is. He promised me a flash drive. But Saturday only.
Over on the Racing One course, the Thistle with her chute and planing to beat the band in 20 knots would be tough to beat. I hope someone got that.
And all the memorable moments.. of which there were many, even in 5 knots.
Thanks, all. See you again next year, Carl
Dale Genther
05-21-2012, 07:14 AM
Susan, I am the owner of the committee boat, Slackwater, from your course and I took a bunch of pictures, including many of Roberta P. I'll probably upload them to Photobucket for all to have access to. This many not be for a couple of days as I have a lot to catch up on after being at the regatta for the weekend. Looked like you guys ahd a great time on Sunday, especially.
andrewdarius
05-21-2012, 08:07 AM
The Crowninshield is a beautiful boat. For those of us who saw her at Mystic, seeing her on the water rounded out the experience. It's one thing to see a boat and all of her weight pressing against a trailer or stands, immovable. It's an absolutely other experience to see her skip on her mooring, almost weightless.
The first time I noticed her was when she was heading out to the course the first day, and seeing that sizable gaff amid the smaller sails was a nice sight.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2db00b3127ccef07e640b36cc00000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2db00b3127ccef07e560c36d200000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
The staff of the RHYC were gracious hosts. Being able to camp on the grounds made it a nice family affair for us. Here's Ella helping me rig the boat, and later finding new friends.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2db00b3127ccef07e907cb7f100000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2db00b3127ccef07fc689976300000030O00BatGzhwzcMQ e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
There was quite a diversity to the racers this year, and the committee made an honorable effort to divide the types into separate classes to make it competitive and fun for all. People without a one-design should feel welcome to race next year.
Andy
spulsch
05-21-2012, 01:16 PM
Thank you, we look forward to seeing them.
The Roberta P Crew
Dale Genther
05-21-2012, 07:10 PM
I got them uploaded, including a few of The Pride of Baltimore who we passed on our way back to Rock Hall.
http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/DaleGenther/2012%20Wooden%20Boat%20Regatta/
Woxbox
05-21-2012, 07:42 PM
Nice shots. Thanks Dale.
Carl Cramer
05-22-2012, 07:30 AM
Let's see if this works. Overall results, thanks to the great Race Committee. More to follow.
Racing Class 1 and Racing Class 2
Handicap Results and Overall Standings
Equals Throwout
Saturday Sunday Total Final
Score Position
Sail Number Class Name Race 1 Race 2 Race 3 Race 4 Race 1 Race 2 Race 3
514 Hampton OD Charles McCoy, Jr. 2 3 1 8 2 1 1 10 1
1333 Thistle Thomas Antrobus 5 1 2 7 5 2 2 17 2
727 Hampton OD Latane Montague 7 2 3 1 1 5 7 19 3
818 Thistle Paul Prozzillo 3 5 5 3 6 3 6 25 4
7603 Lightning Bob Astrove 1 4 8 5 3 8 5 26 5
711 Caribe David Edinberg 6 8 9 4 4 4 3 29 6
582 Hampton OD W. Claiborne Harris 10 9 4 2 9 9 9 42 7
8705 Wayfarer Frank Pedersen 4 6 6 9 8 10 16 43 8
6296 Lightning Frank Schneider 12 10 13 11 7 6 4 50 9
378 Intl 210 Mickey Lake 8 7 12 10 10 7 16 54 10
5400 Windmill Dyer Harris 9 11 11 6 16 16 16 69 11
726 Hampton OD Steve Kistler 11 13 7 12 16 16 16 75 12
747 Custom Jay Bliss 15 15 14 14 16 11 8 77 13
001 Paper Jet Dudley Dix 14 14 10 13 11 16 16 78 14
584 Lightning Douglas Dixon 13 12 16 15 16 16 16 88 15
Carl Cramer
05-22-2012, 07:33 AM
Racing Class 3 and Cruising Class
DNF = Last + 1 DNS = Last + 1
Saturday Sunday Total Final
Race 1 Race 2 Race 3 Race 4 Race 1 Race 2 Race 3 Score Position
Racing Class 3 Adirondack Goodboat Bill Stocker 1 1 1 3 2 1 9 1
Redmond Whisp David Dawson 2 3 3 1 1 2 12 2
mod. River Wizard Dennis Keener 3 2 2 2 3 4 16 3
Racing Class 3a Moth John Zseleczky 1 1 1 1 3 2 5 14 1
Blue Jay Andrew Slavinskas 3 4 4 4 1 1 1 18 2
Moth Bob Patterson 2 2 3 3 2 5 5 22 3
Moth Victor Stango 4 3 2 2 4 3 5 23 4
Cruising Class Gypsy Robert Pulsch 1 2 2 1 1 1 8 1
CLC Pocketship Joey Schott 3 1 1 2 2 6 15 2
Bolger Whalewatcher Patrick Connor 2 5 5 3 3 2 20 3
CLC Pocketship Pascal Laigle 4 4 3 6 6 6 29 4
CLC PocketShip Peter McCrary 5 3 4 6 6 6 30 5
Great job, all!
George A
05-22-2012, 09:06 AM
I just mailed Carl a CD my pix from Saturday but I'll also be posting some of the better ones on my blogspot over the next few days: http://mid-atlanticmusings.blogspot.com/
Carl Cramer
05-22-2012, 09:21 AM
Thanks so much, George. Great stuff.
My best wishes to you, Carl
DudleyDix
05-22-2012, 05:32 PM
I'll second that. Thanks to all involved for a great weekend. I will be there again next year.
I tried my best to break my body but was unsuccessful. Yesterday was full of pain, a good indication that I enjoyed the weekend. Couldn't have been that bad though, I went surfing for 2 hours today.
My skiff cannot be competitive on a windward/leeward course so in the end I decided to just crash and burn, as skiffs are supposed to do. Controlling mainsail, jib and asymmetrical with one hand guaranteed that my crash and burn attempts would all be successful. I had some spectacular high-speed crashes that were mostly unseen except that one was almost on top of Jay Bliss' support boat.
If I don't attract a few other skiffs to the next event for our own start and triangular course then I should sail with my smaller rig without spinnaker and a more competitive handicap. With the small size of my boat, that might even put me into the Racing 3 fleet.
Dudley
What a great weekend!
0-8 knots the first day;
10-20 knots the second.
No breakage, at least that I know of.
What a great group! Kudos to all, plus RHYC staff, the race committee, and all of our extended family/racers.
I'll post race results here once I receive them. Please post your photos here.
Same weekend, same place next year?
With any luck, I'll be racing a Moth next year. It hurts me to the quick to be on a powerboat, as wonderful as it is.
Yours, Carl
bamamick
05-22-2012, 06:57 PM
I just got home and unhooked the boat. I would also like to thank Carl, the guys at RHYC, and the other sailors for a great weekend. My daughter Chryssie and I accomplished every single one of our goals for the week and had a great time sailing.
Congratulations to everyone who sailed, and thanks again to everyone who sacrificed their time and effort to support a great event.
Mickey Lake
International 210 272 'Coot'
tprice
05-22-2012, 07:09 PM
Mickey,
How did the boat sail? Hope launching and mast stepping went well. let me know all about it.
I just got home and unhooked the boat. I would also like to thank Carl, the guys at RHYC, and the other sailors for a great weekend. My daughter Chryssie and I accomplished every single one of our goals for the week and had a great time sailing.
Congratulations to everyone who sailed, and thanks again to everyone who sacrificed their time and effort to support a great event.
Mickey Lake
International 210 272 'Coot'
bamamick
05-22-2012, 07:38 PM
Launching and mast-stepping and all that went very smoothly. Very simple boat. Very fun to sail. The first race on Sunday we were in position to have a splendid start and the jib halyard adjustment pulled out of the floor. We sailed off the course so that I could fix it and went ahead and sailed the race, following everyone around the course. The sailing was a little odd for me because we were on a collegiate-sized course sailing with dinghies so mainly I was just trying to keep from t-boning anyone. I did have one little scuffle even then, but the party in question was very gracious and it all ended well.
I have the boat at home now and will start sanding and filling tomorrow. I want to have her painted by next Monday so I can take her down to the club. The jib you gave me looks good. I will take it to a friend and ask him to do some stitching on it, and to add a ring on the clew so I can add bullets. I will have to lower the gooseneck to the original position to use the main I bought. After that I will just have to get a new kite. I like the Gibson Island way of sailing with the main and jib. It is just so easy. I mean, my kid and I sailed the boat up this little river in very puffy conditions that I know hit over 20 at times and we were laughing about it (well, she was laughing. I was worried about grounding - again. But I didn't want her to worry so I was laughing while I worried).
As soon as I got home I had a message from someone in Florida, expressing interest in the 210. I gave him your contact info on SA. I hope that was alright?
I told Carl Sunday afternoon that I think this is probably the best boat I have ever bought for the money. I am pretty sure that's true. Having sailed the boat for three days certainly doesn't make me an expert, but I would recommend this boat to anyone interested in a larger daysailor/racer that's easy to handle but still moves pretty well. The 5 knots we had on Saturday didn't really tell us much, but every time the breeze picked up you could see we were trucking, and against the Lightnings and Thistles I feel like that would a decent test.
All in all I am very pleased. I really hope you guys can move all of the boats you have left to sell because they are damn sure worth the money you are asking. If anyone asks me I am sending them your way.
Mickey Lake
Oh yeah, that little trailer worked like a champ. One of the guys at the marina asked me if I thought it'd make it back home? Well, it did just fine.
blisspacket
05-22-2012, 09:15 PM
It's much easier to handle backwinded jibs and tender craft than navigating the foto options on the internet. See if this works for more fotos from the crew of Brunelle, mothership to Haiku
http://s1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/blisspacket/
blisspacket
05-22-2012, 09:18 PM
Yup, it worked. Good times, thank you Carl and Rock Hall Yacht Club and the Race committees. Great event and fine people. Jay Bliss
DGentry
05-22-2012, 09:21 PM
Great meeting you Mickey, and Woxbox, too. Good seeing Carl and the others again, as well. I had a fun time trying out my new boat for basically the first time . . . minus the rig, I think it's going to be pretty darn good. A lower, more traditional canoe rig will make a huge difference in my ability to stay upright, I hope.
Anyway, the wind wasn't blowing much on Saturday (at least at first?), and my knees called it quits two-thirds of the way out to the race course. I'll be back next year!
Thanks to everyone who helped make this event possible!
Thistle1333
05-24-2012, 09:24 PM
It was great meeting everyone. We had a wonderful time, and hope to attend next year. The RC did a great job in mixed conditions, but all six of us on the Thistles will submit our votes for some longer courses next year. We're not used to finishing full races in 15 - 20 minutes!
I'm really enjoying some of the photos posted so far. Unfortunately, the only photog's in our group were out racing, although my wife did manage to take a few from land. I've tried attaching them several times to this post, but am always told they're over my quota, despite having paired them down to less than 100 kB each. I've not a photobucket or other image hosting account, so any advice on uploading directly?
Carl Cramer
05-25-2012, 07:24 AM
Thanks for yours, Thistle. It was wonderful having you and your mates there.
In terms of posting photos, photobucket, etc. -- please see the FAQ at the top left of this page.
I think it does make sense to race the larger, faster boats on a longer course if that's what you all want.
Dave Gentry -- We missed you! Cut that rig down and come back next year.
bamamick
05-25-2012, 07:56 AM
Carl, if you really want a little feedback I would be willing to give it, but only in the spirit of constructive criticism. The RHYC and John did a great job getting in a regatta in what for many of us were very difficult conditions, and I really, really appreciate their efforts.
1. Three minute sequences in 5 knots of breeze (or less) make things very, very congested on the line because everyone is scared to move away and set up for a start. The standard five minute sequence may have been better for most of us, at least strategically. Please note that this may have had something to do with what Dudley was referring to at the awards presentation. People didn't want to stray too far from the finish line and get stuck not starting the next race.
2. One and half lengths per boat is the standard starting line length for one-design courses. Someone commented that we (the 210) took up a lot of the starting line just with our boat, and I agree that if you didn't time it perfectly you were just out of luck on making the line because it was so short. If everyone sailing hadn't been so nice to one another you would have had a lot more shouting and some boat-bumping at pretty much every start. I know for a fact that there were two starts were I was just plain barging but the people below me let me get away with it.
3. I understand that with the wind direction we were going to get major shifts, and honestly, it was surprisingly consistent with it always shifting back to where it started from, but there was one start where NO ONE could make the starting line on starboard, and that start should have been abandoned. Shifts on the beat at that club are to be expected, but the start should be as fair as possible.
4. Longer courses will spread things out and make for less congestion at the marks, especially in a Portsmouth fleet. Speaking personally, they would also make it possible for the larger boats to get up to speed without having to tack as soon as the boat is set up properly. The 210 did just fine in the lighter air. If I had been in my Dragon it would have been miserable.
Essentially we sailed collegiate courses (maybe even a little long for those, but the spirit was the same) with the collegiate sequences. For the small boats like the Windmill and Wayfarer that was probably fine. For the larger boats we may have liked a little more time and longer beats. Most one-design fleets haven't sailed triangles in a decade but if that's what Dudley needed to make his boat go we should have tried a couple, imo. My comments are aimed at making a great event even better, and as I said, John and the other committee members did a great job getting in some races in what were tough conditions, especially on Saturday. The spirit of the event was fantastic and was shared by everyone there, and I think that's what's really important.
I hope no one takes anything I have written in a negative way because it sure isn't meant to be negative. These are just my observations. I saw a bunch of beautiful boats and met a lot of very nice people in Rock Hall, and if I had a boat I could launch at the club I would try to make this an annual event on my calendar even with the distance to travel. It was a privilege to get to sail this event and I really enjoyed it.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
05-25-2012, 09:24 AM
Thanks so much, Mickey. I appreciate all the critiques. If you didn't, we'd be stuck making the same mistakes year after year.
All best to you, Carl
Thistle1333
05-25-2012, 10:30 AM
Mickey said it better than I ever could, so ditto on everything he said. It was a great event, and I think we can do it even better next year!
rbgarr
05-25-2012, 04:18 PM
2. One and half lengths per boat is the standard starting line length for one-design courses. Someone commented that we (the 210) took up a lot of the starting line just with our boat, and I agree that if you didn't time it perfectly you were just out of luck on making the line because it was so short. If everyone sailing hadn't been so nice to one another you would have had a lot more shouting and some boat-bumping at pretty much every start. I know for a fact that there were two starts were I was just plain barging but the people below me let me get away with it.
This is the reason I've stopped racing in our local beer can races during the summer. My boat is about the size of the 210 and the others in the races are considerably smaller. As a result I 'take too much room' on the starting line if I time it well (and who doesn't want to do that?) which results in other boats being spooked by my sharp, plunging stem or squeezed out of good air by my taller rig. Pleas to make the starting lines longer have inexplicably and frustratingly had no effect, so now I just sail alongside the course and take in the view of others enjoying the racing. That has its pleasures also.
Carl Cramer
05-25-2012, 06:09 PM
Thanks, all. I've forwarded Mickey's suggestions to the RC, and have asked that they be implemented for next year.
Count on it.
Thanks, Carl
Dale Genther
05-26-2012, 08:07 AM
I see no reason why we can't do the changes that you guys requested next year. Just make certain to remind us. Sometimes our memories are not as long as we'd like them to be.
BTW The reason for the 3 minute starts and the short courses was that one of the comments we got last year was that people wanted more races. The way to accomplish this was with shorter courses and shorter start sequences.
bamamick
05-27-2012, 07:26 PM
I wish we had known that the 'Sultana' was docked in Chestertown while we were up there. Would have been a fun thing to take a look at. We saw her on the way out of town on Monday.
There really is quite a bit to do in the area where the regatta is held. Pretty nice place to visit. I am very happy that we were able to make the trip.
Mickey Lake
Carl Cramer
05-28-2012, 06:07 AM
Thanks, Mickey. We were hoping she's come visit the regatta... but I guess not.
Yes, that is a great area, isn't it?
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