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John Smith
12-29-2011, 05:07 PM
I think this is disturbing and well worth the watch

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37560195/#45818623

fishrswim
12-29-2011, 05:25 PM
That's why I drove from Whidbey Island to San Francisco for Thanksgiving. I was a frequent flyer for for over 30 years, but I don't fly now unless it's absolutely necessary. The list of reasons for not flying include TSA stupidity, crowded uncomfortable planes, no food, out of date terminals, charges to check bags, standing in line for seating on Southwest, etc., etc. I"d rather get a root canal.

MiddleAgesMan
12-29-2011, 05:26 PM
Good stuff. Thanks, John.

For anyone turned off by Dylan Ratigan, don't worry. The piece was broadcast on his show but he is apparently on holiday with another, calmer, guy as guest host. :)

John Smith
12-29-2011, 05:36 PM
That's why I drove from Whidbey Island to San Francisco for Thanksgiving. I was a frequent flyer for for over 30 years, but I don't fly now unless it's absolutely necessary. The list of reasons for not flying include TSA stupidity, crowded uncomfortable planes, no food, out of date terminals, charges to check bags, standing in line for seating on Southwest, etc., etc. I"d rather get a root canal.

And, IMO, none of this makes us any safer. For years I've not flown. Partyly because of the airport hassle. Partly because my ears don't get back to normal for what seems like months.

Do those who want to cut federal spending want to cut it here?

John Smith
12-29-2011, 05:38 PM
Good stuff. Thanks, John.

For anyone turned off by Dylan Ratigan, don't worry. The piece was broadcast on his show but he is apparently on holiday with another, calmer, guy as guest host. :)

Dylan gets a little passionate. He also calls out any guest who tries to put forth a fact he thinks is wrong. He'll look his guest in the face and say, "THAT'S NOT TRUE!".

He's also spearheading one of the efforts to get money out of politics.

holzbt
12-29-2011, 05:40 PM
Thousands Standing Around.

SMARTINSEN
12-29-2011, 05:52 PM
Do those who want to cut federal spending want to cut it here?
Vote Ron Paul, and TSA is first to go!:p

John Smith
12-29-2011, 05:56 PM
Vote Ron Paul, and TSA is first to go!:p

So will a lot of things I like, ecept he'd need an act of congress to get rid of what he wants to get rid of, and he'd never get it.

The TSA is just another example of our government being bought.

Bob V
12-29-2011, 06:05 PM
We need to refuse the scanners and opt for the pat down but don't give them the satisfaction of thinking it makes you uncomfortable. I'm just going to close my eyes and imagine the person of my choice is doing the pat down and do my best to get into it than when they tell me they're finished I'm going do say "I'M NOT FINISHED YET DAMMIT...HARDER, FASTER, CALL ME YOUR BITCH."

My wife didn't like my idea much and said she will be flying alone in the future if I do it.

John of Phoenix
12-29-2011, 06:20 PM
We need to refuse the scanners and opt for the pat down but don't give them the satisfaction of thinking it makes you uncomfortable. I'm just going to close my eyes and imagine the person of my choice is doing the pat down and do my best to get into it than when they tell me they're finished I'm going do say "I'M NOT FINISHED YET DAMMIT...HARDER, FASTER, CALL ME YOUR BITCH."

My wife didn't like my idea much and said she will be flying alone in the future if I do it.Give 'em a $5 tip and a wink.

Bob V
12-29-2011, 06:24 PM
I should have credited that idea to the marine who (allegedly) used that technique during a physical exam given by a female physician. I think you all know what part of the exam we're talking about.

Gerarddm
12-29-2011, 06:34 PM
Just flew Seattle-Denver for Christmas and opted out of the scanner, as did my daughter. No biggie.

That said, I think TSA is borderline stupid. The Israelis manage to have the safest airports and airline in the world without TSA.

There is a story about the guy who purposely wore loose sweatpants and popped a Viagra before going to the airport repeated times. Made the pat-down so unpleasant for a TSA guy that he resigned. Supposedly.

Garret
12-29-2011, 06:38 PM
We need to refuse the scanners and opt for the pat down but don't give them the satisfaction of thinking it makes you uncomfortable. I'm just going to close my eyes and imagine the person of my choice is doing the pat down and do my best to get into it than when they tell me they're finished I'm going do say "I'M NOT FINISHED YET DAMMIT...HARDER, FASTER, CALL ME YOUR BITCH."

My wife didn't like my idea much and said she will be flying alone in the future if I do it.

I like it. The problem is that it ain't the minimum wager (or close to it) that is the problem. It's (as the woman on the clip said) that the scanner folks have bought their way in. Well, that & Homeland Security thinking (& acting like) it's the US no-so-secret police.

I'll guess that at least 50% of what HS does is a total waste of taxpayer dollars & that more than 50% is unconstitutional. However, gov't has done such a good job of scaring everyone that "we" go along with it.

No, this is not TD speaking through my login BY:D, it's really me & I ain't happy.

LeeG
12-29-2011, 08:21 PM
people are flying AND driving less

http://www.billdawers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/MilesDriven12monthSept2011.jpg