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Carlsboats

10-24-2002, 09:26 PM

I would be interested in the spars and sail(s). On Block Island, RI, a nonprofit club with which I am affiliated has been given an old Thistle. The hull seems to be okay but the rigging in questionable. Best to keep the whole package together, but if you decide to part it out, keep us in mind. And by the way, we are a 50-1 c.3 corporation, so any gift to the club is a tax deductible contribution. Also, we could pick up the stuff. We are only about an hour south of you, I think.
A onetime Thistle owner (#389) I raced against Sandy Douglass in about 1950 (never beat him though: he was olympic quality, and I believe he sailed for Canada.)
Best

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-24-2002, 09:31 PM

WOW Carlsboats this thread almost dived to the bottom of the pile if I didn't revive it. So I got first dibs here no mater how noble your reason is :D Anyway if for some reason I cant fulfill my duties you the first runner up will have to smile.gif

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Scott Rosen

10-25-2002, 07:58 AM

David, do you know the hull number?

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-25-2002, 08:10 AM

Scott, haven't heard back from this guy since he posted. I emailed him but no response. I looked up these boats very cool look fast and beautiful daysailor / racing sailboat.

Ian McColgin

10-25-2002, 08:20 AM

I also e-mailed directly in great hope. . .

Wayne Jeffers

10-25-2002, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
. . . I looked up these boats very cool look fast and beautiful daysailor / racing sailboat.You're preaching to the choir, Joe. Scott used to race Thistles. ;)

Wayne

Buddy Sharpton

10-25-2002, 02:26 PM

Thistles are cool, but... if one wasn't class racing, what a noble day sailor it would be to alter the boat with a movable gooseneck, and put in about a 14" to 16" reef in the main to depower the rig, eliminate much of the need for hiking on that narrow rail and get the boom up high enough that you don't have to crouch and duck each tack or jibe. Think it would make a real mannerly but still peppy daysailor, and you can always shake out the reef and go class racing. I friend here in Atlanat had a all mahogany hot molded boat, hull number #168 or and she was a beaut. Went to aluminum spars though to "stay competitive" and it spoiled her looks somewhat to me.

Bayboat

10-25-2002, 04:55 PM

A bit too far away for me, and I'm running out of space to store my fleet. A Thistle is about as much fun to sail as any small boat. Many decades ago it was the hottest thing around among the small boat racing crowd.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-25-2002, 06:01 PM

Darn guy hasn't responded or replied to e-mail :(

Dave Fleming

10-25-2002, 06:13 PM

Dhowman, absence makes the heart grow fonder. :D

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-25-2002, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Dave Fleming:
Dhowman :D :D I like it

Meerkat

10-25-2002, 07:36 PM

http://www.thistleclass.com - see especially the Used Boat Clearinghouse on "purchasing a thistle". I think I saw a few "to a good home" listings...

New thistles are $15,000 with racing equipment, trailor etc.. YIKES. $12,900 stripped - no sails.

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Carlsboats

10-25-2002, 09:35 PM

You folks are surely right about the Thistles being great to sail, and I like the idea of downsizing the main to make the boat manageable in heavy air. It's for sure that one person will not keep a Thistle down when it's blowing. I used to race one with two good sized gals for crew, and the three of us could barely manage the boat when it was blowing 15 or better (this was before hiking straps were allowed by class rules). So yes, throw in one or more reefs, using slab reefing instead of the original roller reefing setup, which only gave a decent looking sail if pilloows were stuffed in judicious places.

True Love

10-27-2002, 02:16 PM

Thistles are very nice and very fast racers/daysailors. I know of a wooden one on Cape Cod - in beautiful shape and well cared for.

They are no-nonsense racers.

davidatlantic

10-29-2002, 02:22 PM

Gentlemen,
Ian McColgin was the winner by virtue of the fact that he was first to reply AND also has the best intentions for the boat. Had he wanted it for firewood to heat Granuaile this winter I would have contacted the next person on the list.My apoligies to all who got their hopes up and were frustrated by my lack of replies, I've been busy trying to keep up with work so that I can generate enough cash for the project that caused me to want the Thistle out of the yard in the first place! Over the winter I will be doing a refit on a 1965 37' Egg Harbor, with me as the grunt labor, engine and electrical guy and Tom Wolstenholme of Rivendell Marine in Monument Beach, MA as the guru of wood repair as the Egg needs about half of the frames fixed.

Wayne Jeffers

10-29-2002, 03:41 PM

Ian,

Congratulations!

We'll expect photos of the restoration, though.

Wayne

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-29-2002, 06:30 PM

HMMMMMMMMMMM I. Cry Foul here. I was the first to reply to your thread :confused: After not hearing from your response I decided to e-mail you and didn't get a responce :confused: So although I have no way of knowing if I was the first to E-MAIL you - I probably wasn't I WAS the first to respond to your post. Please understand I'm not angry I have enough on my plate but of all the boats that have come and gone the Thistle peeked my interest the most. I'm almost tempted to beg you to post a photo so I can see what I lost and hopefully it will look as bad as the Free Sloop out on LI I was looking at. As far as the good home I'm sure Ian is a good home and my hat off to you post a photo of the restoration so I can live vicariously

Ian McColgin

10-30-2002, 10:13 AM

No foul - I e-mailed Dave directly.

Anyway - she'll be a fun project.

I hope to call her 'Il Pipistrello Fuori di Inferno' - A Bat Outa Hell

Il Pipi for short.

Pix will happen. And I've already promiced god that I'll not be using searsbestexteriorlatex on this boat.

I may not give her every twig and twigger that the modern racers use - I've some access to a couple of old timers who sailed Thistles in the '40's and may have insight into older simpler rigging. I'm thinking nice little bronze blocks rather than tons of haarkenballbearings and all.

Anyway. . . mo'latah

Donn

10-30-2002, 10:34 AM

It's that strange part of the year, when old boats get up off their cradles, and wander around until they find another spot to live.

Sure would like to see a pic...to me a thistle is a weed. ;)

Congrats, Ian.

Ian McColgin

10-30-2002, 10:58 AM

Hit the web site but I will try to get hull shots galore as the curves in this hull just exude speed. Almost tempted to name her 'Il Sogno Bagnato e Veloce' but since my partner will be sailing her a lot, i didn't want folk to get the wrong idea . . .

It's that school with plumb stem, very sharp entry but high volume bow above the water. A shape that can only happen in molded plywood. The deadrise flattens out at the stern and she's skegless. I always thought if she had lifting strakes along the aft third of the water line, she'd hop out onto a plane a bit more easily but I've promiced god not to go there either. Why should I think that I'm smarter than Sandy was.

Mainly, my departures from Thistle class practice will be:

A bit less fussy sail control rigging - you should see the rat's nest of barberhaulers and cunninghams and vangydangys and whatnot these guys load on; and

A bit more sea doggy rigging - to wit lazy jacks, jib and main down hauls, and single line slab reefing.

I got Leeward into safe outdoor storage this weekend so I can free myself for this project. Now if I can just get Grana into her winter dock . . .

Gonna be fun.

Donn

10-30-2002, 11:08 AM

The thistleclass site seems to be down, but I found some elsewhere...nice boat, but I don't know about hanging my butt out over the rail like the pictures I saw. Seems a bit extreme.

Ian McColgin

10-30-2002, 11:25 AM

Pucker up. It's done with suction.

Scott Rosen

10-30-2002, 12:16 PM

Good on you, Ian. You saved a classic. Some of the wooden hulls are still competitive. I used to race against wooden hull no. 655, The Gray Ghost, which was one of the fastest boats in the fleet.

They are beautiful boats. I was probably about 9 years old the first time I saw one up close. I was out sailing in a Super Sprite dinghy with a friend on a day with no wind. We were just sitting there getting bored and hungry. Along came this angelic looking boat, full curves, strong plumb bow, but sleek nontheless, silently and gracefully moving at a good clip, making no wake. For me it was love at first sight.

I must admit, though, that in years of Thistling, I never once saw a reefed sail. I broke a mast once, but never reefed a sail.

Donn, you need to be somewhat fit and limber to race those competitively. When I was racing, my daily workout regimine inculded 25 to 30 miles on the bike and up to a mile in the swimming pool, with a little weight lifting thrown in for good measure. Hanging your butt over the gunn'l, with your feet strapped amidship for a long windward leg can get mighty tiring, especially on windy days with two races.

Nothing beats it for sheer fun.

Scott Rosen

10-30-2002, 12:34 PM

http://www.thistleclass.com/pictures/Image008.jpg

http://www.thistleclass.com/pictures/3595above.jpg

http://www.thistleclass.com/pictures/mcnittsatacc.jpg

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-30-2002, 12:42 PM

Seriously Bummed :( I made the mistake of posting my response here first figuring that would secure my spot in order. I only emailed him after not getting a response on this board - usually things happen so fast on here that it beats emailing back and forth. I figured again wrong that by posting my response in public there would be no confusion as to who had first dibs. Again this may seem like I'm angry or pissed I'm not. Ian I'm glad for you and like I said I have my hands full as it is and you definitely have to let me live vicariously through you by posting photo's . I also learned a valuable lesson e-mail first and then post a reply.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-30-2002, 12:49 PM

OOOF Scott that hurt ya had to post those :( unnn this is gonna sting for a while - I really REALLY like those boats. But I'm still a newby on this forum and I still have tons to learn about sailing so It's probably for the best looks like she might have been more speed than I could handle - what am I saying I'm dying here absolutly dying

ishmael

10-30-2002, 12:58 PM

There'll be another Joe.

A very similar, and very nice boat, a couple feet smaller, is the Albacore.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-30-2002, 01:18 PM

Licking my wounds here the cockpit shot of black cloud doesn't help - Scott :D I would be curious from a beating a dead horse to death point of view what are the rules of engagement on a matter such as this. The legal scholars out there chime in. (I'm not looking for a legal response more of a fun ethical one) If someone post on a public forum what's the etiquette - should it be who emails first or who post a response first. Again I'm probably wrong for even asking I'm just curious not in a sore looser sort of way so please Ian don't think that. Just so I know what to do next time if there is one.

Wild Wassa

10-30-2002, 01:23 PM

No offence guys, what's the point of having a classic if your going to undersail it.

Get a boat that you can cope with. If you have not used the Harken and watched the sheets run like lightning you might as well use any old bits. To refer to an adjustable rig as a rats nest, I thought she was to go to a good home?

Do you ever think you will use the kite?

Don't modify this classic boat. Except to go faster.

Warren.

ps, To me this is wasteful. It's like buying a Ferrari and not switching the engine on. Just buy the book instead.

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Ian McColgin

10-30-2002, 01:47 PM

Black Cloud has a very nice clean look. The only addition I'd do there is to follow the current class recommendation of about 1000# positive bouyancy to permit self-rescue. The boat won't sink but you can't bail her out or sail her out with the gunnel awash

Wild Wassa

10-30-2002, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by Wild Wassa:
Don't modify this classic boat. Except to go faster. Except to install positive bouyancy, this can save lives.

Warren.

WWheeler

10-30-2002, 02:51 PM

Joe: what about the free T-birds that are kicking around? I've seen a couple, look at the international class web site. Or, if you've got your heart set on a real screamer, try looking at the Fireball web site. There's usually something cheap kicking around there.

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Paul Denison

10-30-2002, 06:10 PM

We have a Sea Scout organization here that sails Thistles. They have a wooden one but not as cherry as the on Scott showed us. I saw another wooden Thistle, neglected, laying in the yard uncovered that someone said had termites. I wonder?

What type of plywood is in Black Cloud? It has beautiful markings, like tiger maple.

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Peter Malcolm Jardine

10-30-2002, 06:16 PM

Or look for the definitive flying string factory, the international 14, a Bruce Kirby design. It became obsolete as an olympic class when there were five different marks of hull... I raced in a mk IV and it was blindingly fast and required high speed coordination... and that was a while ago too..hahaha..The australians used to come to Kingston Ontario with cold molded mahogany ply versions .. stunning boat.

davidatlantic

10-30-2002, 07:04 PM

Joe,
I may not have explained it well but I based the give-away on first response of any kind, no preference to forum posts or e-mail. As to the rules, I think the giver gets to make them!

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-30-2002, 08:41 PM

As to the rules, I think the giver gets to make them!Yup, I guess so

Wild Wassa

10-30-2002, 11:05 PM

The Thistle is one of the fine looking racing, bay boat. Thankyou Scott R, for the beautiful reproductions. Top shots.

Joe, I can just see you in an International 14 footer or a Fireball.

Fireballs, are long and skinny. Twitchy though. How are your reflexes? Like lightning, I bet. Fireball is the correct name. We have one called 'The Bird'. As in one raised finger, :rolleyes: . As we sail away, the only thing the opposition sees is the finger on the sail. The Bird.

Once you master something slippery, you will want something even faster and even more slippery. A Fireball as a training boat, how classy.

Warren.

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Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

10-30-2002, 11:18 PM

Generally I have what's considered fast reflexes expect obviously in this post. tongue.gif But I think I'm gonna concentrate my efforts on the boats I have and have yet to complete and dream of the perfect boat for me - I have started my mental meander in the design post I put up a few initial idea's. Although I do like going fast and hanging it out on the rails in just about everything in life. And 'The Bird' is a rite proper name for any vessel I sail.
http://www.sailboatspecs.com/xq/ASP/boatId.23685/boatMaker.International/boatLen.15/qx/sailboatspecs/boatimages/I/International15-470-15.jpg

Definitely looks like my kinda living

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Wild Wassa

10-31-2002, 12:51 AM

Joe, send the crew up the mast, it helps to have a spotter, :D .

Warren.

imported_Steven Bauer

11-06-2002, 04:09 PM

Joe, I'm going out to the garage right now to take some pictures of the English built International 14 that I'd like to give to a good home. I've got everything - mast, boom, sails, rudder, board, chocks, pulleys, cleats, everything! Just put it all back together. I don't think you'd need to buy anything but CPES and paint. Alright out I go.
Steven

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imported_Steven Bauer

11-06-2002, 04:30 PM

OK, I guess I'll have to wait 'til the morning. The boat is hanging from the ceiling and is I back up enough to see the whole boat the flash isn't bright enough. Here's the best of the ones I just took. I'll try again in the morning.

Bow shot:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p2b16abde98be1fbb76fb5b34b3538442/fd12d9f6.jpg

Transom:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p24ec63e37c52b3de63ccf39a4f01c04b/fd12da15.jpg

Interior (sort of):

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p3fad71fd3ecdbf231d2eff990ffcbc12/fd12da07.jpg

Noah

11-06-2002, 04:47 PM

I would be very interested in this boat. I will email you privatly for a bit more information.

Noah

I'm a good home for a boat like that...

imported_Steven Bauer

11-06-2002, 04:51 PM

My dad just called and wants the digital camera back. :( I wish I had one like Joes. :D
Anyway, I lowered one end of the boat and tried to get a few more pics.

Tiller, rudder, and daggerboard:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p9d98762d3f66e274bc0dbe30a1cecd36/fd12d528.jpg

Interior. The seats are part of a air chamber flotation system that incledes a lowered deck area forward. The watertight deck area is about 3 inches down from the gunnel height.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p340f8a4c6da1f8ddf9e2b78b8d696106/fd12d506.jpg

Oh well, I guess that's it for now. Maybe I'll go check out the sails later to see if anyone recognises the sailmaker.
Steven

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Wild Wassa

11-06-2002, 04:59 PM

Good luck who ever gets this boat. Wow.

Steve Bauer how can you afford to give the boat away? I would have thought that you could name a good price (within reason).

Noah is a racer.

Did you have a good season Noah? If you were in an Inter 14 you would. Got your pilot's licence?, :D .

Warren.

ps, Good luck as well Joe.

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Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

11-06-2002, 05:01 PM

:eek: OOOOOOOH :eek: Thank You :D tell me more about her she looks like Ply construction. What's her history? What's her rigging like wood or aluminum spars? From what I saw about these boats there a 2 crew wild ride with a main, Jib & Spinnaker ya need a trapeze and a healthy set of brass gronicles.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

11-06-2002, 06:51 PM

I humbly resign myself to the better formite Noah with his International 14 racing experience. I would be a raging fool in such a boat and surely leave my wife a widower. Noah also lives closer go for it with my blessing - not that ya needed it allow me to come up and crew with ya and learn.

gunnar I am

11-06-2002, 07:20 PM

Joe ,How about a wood sunfish.You couldn't get kiled in that could ya? Uh, by the way, whats your wife look like? And ,uh your portfolio wasn't too tech heavy was it?

imported_Steven Bauer

11-06-2002, 07:31 PM

OK, I dug the sails out from the second floor of the garage. They were made by Bruce Banks Sails, Sarisbury, Southampton.

Here's the story:
My friend Orville graduated last spring from the Maine Maritime Academy in Castine. Earlier in the spring he was out in his yard working on the 1962 Lightning that I sold him last year. A guy pulled over and said he had a boat just like it in his barn and he wanted to get rid of it. Would Orville like to come and take it? (Hey, it's another boats in barns story!). Thinking he could scavenge some good stuff for his boat he said sure, and went to see it. When he got there he knew it wasn't a Lightning but wasn't sure what it was. But it looked so good he couldn't let the guy take it to the dump so he brought it home. But he's right in the middle of the Lightning restoration so what does he do? He calls me! So I'm planning on building the Harry Bryan Thistle(12' decked canoe) and my garage is taken up with my 14' John Gardner Sail and Row Skiff so what do I do? I drive 2 1/2 hours up to Castine, load it on top of my truck and bring it to Portland. :D
I didn't have anywhere to put it so I hung it from the garage ceiling and put the mast up on the second floor of the garage.
Now I've got the plans for my Eun Mara(and the forms and laminated stems) and I have the skiff to sail until the Eun Mara is built. I figure with my girls at 7 and 9 and my son 12 racing 420's the skiff is a better family boat.

Joe, I think this boat is from before they allowed trapeses. I have only a main and jib, no spinaker. The sail has a big 14 on it then under that it says US 780. It is 1/4" mahogany plywood with an amazingly beautiful shape. When Thad (Reddspond Boatworks) saw it this spring he was impressed with the shape they had tortured out of that ply. Did you notice the flare to the sides at the transom? The rest of the wood is mahogany, too. The mast starts out square then changes to oval - it has the sail track molded into it and the sail has a rope sewn along the edge that just slides right into the mast. It was made of two pieces and has split apart on the glueline. it just needs to be scraped clean and glued back together. One side panel was broken off at the stern but I glued it back on - it does need a little fairing still.
So what do you think Noah? Joe has given his blesing. All I ask is an afternoon of sailing when she's done. And maybe one for Orville - he's going to school in Brattleboro, Vermont, now. She is really a beauty but not just right for me right now.
Steven
Oh, yeah, Some who have seen her think she is an Uffa Fox design, any opinions?

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Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

11-06-2002, 07:38 PM

Gunnar aint no wooden sunfish gonna give ya this kinda thrill. My wife's beautiful but I would haunt ya like The Ghost and Mrs. Muir :D
http://www.lcsc.org.uk/articles/images/1366_pow99a2.jpg

[ 11-06-2002, 08:39 PM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

Mrleft8

11-06-2002, 09:26 PM

Ian, I think you ought to name her "joe coldspring" .....just to rub it in....

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

11-06-2002, 09:41 PM

Mrleft8 ouch a little late but good one.

Noah

11-06-2002, 09:43 PM

Listen, Joe has been yearning for a faster boat, and he was at the top of the list for this kind of boat. I will defer on it. I will still get to sail the Melges weekly (Will I see anyone in Key West?) and I have my Folkboat.

If Joe decides not to get this boat I would really be interested. It is right up my alley, and it would be great fun to sail.

I think that I have the time and the space to put it into working/sailing competition as well. (Joe does have more room for it though)

What I'm saying is that I'm happy to let him have first dibs on the boat, but if not I'm very interested in sailing this thing. I'm getting pretty excited about the thought of setting a 350 sqft asym spinnaker on a 14ft boat. smile.gif It's only flying if you are more than 10 ft off the water right?

BTW, I grew up in Brattleboro (Or close to it, and would be happy to give Orville a ride.) There isn't that much good sailing to be had down there, but we could figure something out.

Noah

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imported_Steven Bauer

11-06-2002, 09:47 PM

http://www.i14.org/photos/gorge02/Speak0-R1-35.jpg

Mrleft8

11-06-2002, 09:51 PM

I was born early, and I've been late ever since Joe... Most people that know me figure I'll call em the next morning with a snappy comeback to a comment made the night before....

imported_Steven Bauer

11-06-2002, 10:03 PM

http://www.i14.org/photos/gorge02/Speak2-R3-14.jpg

There are lots more pics on the I-14 site.

I-14 webpage (http://www.i14.org)

I looked up the sailmakers and Bruce Banks Sails was founded in 1962. So the sails are no older than that. I have no reason to believe that they aren't the original set of sails. Banks has now merged with Ratsey and Lapthorn of Cowes.

Steven

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )

11-06-2002, 10:10 PM

Noah, In all honesty After loosing the thistle I have been doing some serious rethinking about what I'm looking for in a boat new / used / free. And as much of a speed junky and risk taker as I am. I'm looking for a family boat a decent trailer sailor, with just enough draft to make her stable for off shore a roomy cabin, head & galley. Small enough rig to single hand. Hmmm sounds a bit like your Folkboat hmmm. I just got an idea Ill take the 14 and trade ya for the folkboat smile.gif . Take the 14 give her good home sail her hard and they way she is supposed to. Steven.Bauer thanks for this gem your a prince among us addicted. I would love to sail her with you next spring. Do you sail on Lake Champlaine ? I used to sail there as a kid hell I have even driven a Ford LTD station wagon on it way to fast and way to young :D

Noah

11-06-2002, 10:11 PM

Steven,

I also should have included that I would be happy to give you a great afternoon sailing on this boat (or any of the other boats that I sail)

I would probably end up getting new sails made for it once it was up and running so to speak. (I have a sailmaker friend that can help me out)

I gotta say, I would certainly approach that boat with a bit of trepidation, but I bet it would be worth it.

Let me know.

Noah

imported_Steven Bauer

11-06-2002, 10:19 PM

OK Noah, if you really want it after you sleep on it, it's yours. Do you want to see more pictures? Are you planning to visit Maine anytime soon? It was a bit of a struggle lifting it onto my truck with just Orville, Mary and me. A trailer would be much better. smile.gif
I used to live near Brattleboro too. I went to high school at The Putney School.
Steven

Meerkat

11-07-2002, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
Noah, In all honesty After loosing the thistle I have been doing some serious rethinking about what I'm looking for in a boat new / used / free. And as much of a speed junky and risk taker as I am. I'm looking for a family boat a decent trailer sailor, with just enough draft to make her stable for off shore a roomy cabin, head & galley. Small enough rig to single hand. Hmmm sounds a bit like your Folkboat hmmm. <snip> :D Sounds an awful lot like an Oughtred Grey Seal (which resembles a Folkboat), particularly the c/b version. A thread I did on a Wee Seal I saw at the PT WB Festival (http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001954 - lots of pics) illustrates that customizing the interior can pay big dividends compared to the stock plan - so if you look at the Grey Seal, don't be disuaded by the basic interior drawn on the plans.

There's been at least one Grey Seal construction series article in WB.

imported_Steven Bauer

02-09-2003, 11:16 PM

Well Noah came and got the International-14. We loaded it onto his trailer last Saturday and he headed back to Vermont Sunday morning. By chance my friend Orville, who gave the boat to me, was visiting(also from Vermont) and helped us load it on the trailer. Just to make things interesting we had a few inches of snow overnight, too.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid50/pac99cb630a41c5fddd0fd66f7f2f3bd6/fca8c66c.jpg

Orville and I are both looking forward to an exciting afternoons sail as soon as Noah gets her ready.

Steven

Noah

02-10-2003, 10:30 AM

Yes, I now have an International 14 to add to the list of boats in the fleet. For some reason my girlfriend really likes this one, so hopefully work will go quickly on it.

I'm still thinking about what the best way to finish her will be, IE varnish and show of the scars, or paint and cover up...

I suppose it might be a good candidate for some 6oz glass on the bottom, but we will see.

It was a fun trip, though the weather could have been a bit nicer to me though. The drive home was pretty crappy. Cars off the road everywhere, and lots of good ice and slush to trudge through. I got a few looks from other cars wondering why I would be dragging a boat home in the dead of winter, b

I will post a few more pictures tonight when I get home.

Also a hearty thanks to both Steven and Orville! I promise to give her a good home, and you can come sailing any time you want to.

Noah

BTW, I just purchase a 400 sqft Asymm Spinnaker that might be just the thing to get this boat airborn...