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ChaseKenyon
12-15-2011, 05:59 AM
So I am starting this thread. Let me have a couple of days to play down some stuff to listens to and then it's where ever we WE take it. Much better use of the opportunity of the WBF than political assassination .

Hammond organs have a unique sound. So much so that one of Roland's big claims for years was they could imitate a Hammond so you could not tell. Thing is a Hammond is a real instrument not a synthesizer. I't does not emulate other instruments. as a real instrument it has sounds that change ever so slightly" with temperature and humidity and altitude like all other real instruments including human voice.

Just few to start off I'll try and get some historical data u and things like that tomorrow and the next day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSpwGuvofYE&fmt=18

http://www.pianoorgandepot.com/Hammond2312M/Hammond2312M.html


T (http://www.pianoorgandepot.com/Hammond2312M/Hammond2312M.html)he Wiki history of the Hammond organ. Fairly close to accurate. It was an attempt not so much to be an electronic organ as to be a substitute for the expense of a real pipe organ. As such extensive engineering detail was spent on the propagation of harmonics for each and every tone and sound.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammond_organ

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammond_organ)One of my favorite Pieces of music. Played if not professionally at least decent amateur level. Worth putting your headphones on listen to the range and depth of the only instrument the Hammond. The trumpets sound like trumpets and the woodwinds are incredible on a Hammond. Remember it was designed not to imitate the actual instruments but to imitate the Pipe organ version of those instruments.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbzP9JVp6as&feature=related

THis reminds me so much of dad's Kluged together by fellow aerospace engineers triple register B3 (B3++ is probably appropriate here).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Al73ho9la4s


This guy is pretty good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L7adSlQ3dM0

Kinda funny in weird way to think I have been listening to this since I was 2 <3 for sure. Dad bought the Spinet new, it was a 51 serial number. I don't know if he bought it in Drexel Hill PA or after the move to Simsbury CT whenI was 2 or 2.5 years old.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=TLU5fzJPeT4


Dad would play the main and do the boogie and I would play the steady bass and the top keyboard stuff from this on the spinet. I only got one of the outdoor Leslies and dad got the other three.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=PYYbTjLkU4M


There won't b e enough money this year as often is at Chez Kenyon. The truck repairs pretty much killed that especially with the VA denying 2 whole years of back pay they owe me. They ssay i did not return a form made out to me they sent. They sent me a form for another vet in another state and when i called told me I could not use if I need to fill that form out they would send me one.

However we have lots of spirit and now have the Electone (as good as it is I still wish dad had not traded the Hammond in on it) in the house so I can play the songs of the season record them to memory and the play the guitar and so on till we have a Grange Hall full of voices and instruments. For the first time in 8 years all we have to worry about is heat and electricity, not having a roof over our heads at all.

So I ask you all to be of good cheer for the season and then try and hold on to it for the rest of the year. It takes practice , but you will get better at it each year.

ChaseKenyon
12-15-2011, 07:42 AM
I have been a fan of Katie Melua for quite some time.

http://www.katiemelua.com/galleryfiles/images/32.jpg


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/615Z4cUUvlL._SL290_.jpg


http://www.katiemelua.com/galleryfiles/images/15.jpg
She is of Georgian background with most likely some Roma family background.


World record holder

On 2 October 2006, Melua entered the Guinness Book of Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_Book_of_Records) for playing the deepest underwater concert 303 metres below sea level on the Norwegian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway)Statoil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statoil)'s Troll A platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_A_platform) in the North Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea). Melua and her band underwent extensive medical tests and survival training in Norway before flying by helicopter to the rig. Melua later described achieving the record as "the most surreal gig I have ever done".[63] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Melua#cite_note-62)Melua's concert is commemorated in the DVD release Concert Under the Sea, released in June 2007.[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Melua#cite_note-63)

The following Hammond organ piece is one of her songs that is a favorite of mine.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMrNCt6gIas&amp;feature=related


Katie live and with Celli no less.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jGTLxsjEkc&amp;feature=related

ChaseKenyon
12-15-2011, 10:36 AM
I also love the sound of the Hammond B3 organ... although I have to admit, the various synthesizer emulations of the B3 sound are pretty convincing, to me :)

Minor anecdote: way way back in 1970, I was an engineering sophomore, and managed to get myself a co-op job in a recording studio in Boston for one term. At the time, Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter, later of Doobie Brothers fame, was a 'house musician' there, helping out various other bands in recording sessions. One afternoon, Jeff was in the studio by himself, just messing around with a pedal steel guitar... I got this idea that it might sound interesting if played through the Hammond B3's Leslie speaker, so I hooked up his pedal steel to the Leslie cabinet. We didn't have a long enough shielded cable, so we used a speaker extension cable, and there was a lot of hum... but the sound was really cool, and Jeff liked it. Up to that point, I don't think anyone had tried a pedal steel through a Leslie cabinet... although I might be wrong. Ordinary guitars through a Leslie certainly HAD been done before (George Harrison's lead guitar part on 'It's Only Love' is an example).

Charles Kaman of Kaman Aircraft and Ovation Guitars Turned down a guitar job with IIRC Tommy Dorsey & Band. He was a superb Jazz and swing guitar player. Had his own big band for quite a while as well. I remember hearing them play. I think It would have been around 1958 or 9. They dragged my dad's and a few other's Leslies into the Dance Hall( an huge aircraft hanger big enough for five B52s at least). They fed the guitars through the Leslies as well as an upright bass they had put custom wound pickups on.:cool:

TomF
12-15-2011, 01:17 PM
I've got a love/hate thing going on with Hammond organs. They can add exactly the right colour to the soundscape in rock, blues and even jazz groups - and I'd buy one (or a synthesized version ;)) to play such stuff. But as a stand-alone instrument, they've always really turned me right off.

ron ll
12-15-2011, 02:50 PM
Here's one of my favorite uses of a B3 in rock.

And in spite of the picture, there is a lot of organ in it. (Also it has a long very quiet intro, so let it start before you up the volume).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s2ntvhVcRA

Bob Adams
12-15-2011, 03:19 PM
This has got to be my most favorite Bilge thread yet! You just can't beat the sound of a tone wheel Hammond. I have an L model at home. I skate to the sound of the Hammond every Sunday night. Here is on of my favorite rink organists, Marty Dumic, on a B3 at my home rink, Sportsmans Hall in Maryland. Tune is Point of No Return, no, not the one Kansas did.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4s_W2PGDc8

ron ll
12-15-2011, 03:32 PM
Whoa. I like a whole lotta different kinds of music, but with respect to the skaters, I may have just found my limit. :D :D

Bob Adams
12-15-2011, 04:09 PM
Gotta be a Roller Skater I guess. What turns you off, the 6/8 shuffle beat? You should see what a group of talented skaters can do to that.

Edited to add:
It sure beats the hell out of the Rap and Hip Hop most rinks play.

ChaseKenyon
12-15-2011, 04:17 PM
remember 1968 Brian Auger Julie Driscoll and the Trinity?

Brian is known as the man with a PHD in Hammond Organ



long version only played in CT by WDRC


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=WpizS9h-1Xk


FAmous song caution the sound track is loud so ease it back up.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT8tsDclHzU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=Q1K-Nssa19E


For a long time he had a band with Eric Burdon. They were damn good.



More recent
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=9Qxp68EddDw


nice and soft Bumpin on Sunset

THe family that plays together........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=jmL7wZnsnaI

ron ll
12-15-2011, 04:29 PM
It sure beats the hell out of the Rap and Hip Hop most rinks play.

I gotta agree with you on that. And as something to skate to, I'm sure it's great, it does remind me of a rink I went to as a kid, which had a mechanical band up on a mezzanine all controlled by the guy that played the organ.

I'm sure some of the stuff I listen to would drive you straight up a wall (usually opera will do it for some of my friends). It's why we have different flavors of of ice cream, not one that satisfies everyone. So certainly no disrespect meant, just not my flavor.

leikec
12-16-2011, 02:40 AM
As a piano player who vainly tries to hack my way through the B3 fills on our songs, I also have a love/hate relationship with the Hammond sound.

I wish I could find better B3 sounds in a portable keyboard at a price I can afford. I use a Yamaha S80 88 key weighted-key keyboard because the piano is top-notch, but the organ sounds are so-so, as is my ability to play the organ fills properly....

I actually end up using a cheap Roland keyboard most of the time for organ solos and fills. Here's an example:

http://stash.alonetone.com/mp3/46191/03_I_d_Love_to_Change_the_World_mix_2.mp3

The Yamaha is a great all-around gigging keyboard (I have some other songs on page 10 of the "post your favorite music" thread--the s80 is used for all of the piano sounds), but it's heavy (and protective cases are hard to find, heavy, and expensive) and the organ sounds lack a lot.

I wish the manufacturers would stop putting 2,000 sounds in instruments, most of which are never used or needed during a gig, and instead do a better job of modeling the 12 or 15 essential sounds that the typical working keyboard player needs.

Jeff C

Bob Adams
12-16-2011, 07:50 AM
I gotta agree with you on that. And as something to skate to, I'm sure it's great, it does remind me of a rink I went to as a kid, which had a mechanical band up on a mezzanine all controlled by the guy that played the organ.

I'm sure some of the stuff I listen to would drive you straight up a wall (usually opera will do it for some of my friends). It's why we have different flavors of of ice cream, not one that satisfies everyone. So certainly no disrespect meant, just not my flavor.

The Oaks? If it was, that's a Wurlitzer pipe organ, quite an impressive instrument. It's still there being played.